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Anneri
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Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 201 | |
| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/23/2005 4:57:16 AM | I have ticked yes and this has resulted in abusive messages calling me a drug addict, one guy messaged me asking if i wanted to buy some and alot of people tell me i should be ashamed of myself lol.
Am i a drug addict ? no.
I have a scarred gullet due to illness and i was recommended cannabis to help with digestion, it really helps, i donot smoke it, i have it in cake and biscuits. But it is still classed as a drug so i ticked yes, and in doing so this makes me unworthy to chat to certain people !!   | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/23/2005 8:45:13 AM | | ANNERI: Hi Hon. Did you read my thread on what's with these profiles? I'm so sorry that you had such responses and emails. Small minded people with nothing better to do than trash talk. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/23/2005 8:20:08 PM | So, what are the choices we want for the "drug" question? Let's list everything we'd like, then pare it down to a managable list, then present it to the administrator of the site.
So, drugs:
- None whatsoever
- Prescription only
- Casual recreation
- Frequent recreation
- Frequent
- Anything and everything 
What descriptions would you like? Let's lay it all out, then pare it down, then present something usable. Lord knows it won't be perfect. (It's impossible to capture every nuance in two words) But at least it should be better than what is there now. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/23/2005 10:48:37 PM | I just lost out on a grrrreat catch because of the drug thing.
I'm not playing anymore games and pretending I'm all straight and narrow.
I'm a good kid, no trouble with the law or sketchy, crazy past.
Us "normal" folks who incorporate the happy-fun plant into rituals like
poker games, concerts, or just watching the Simpsons, are getting bum raps
from the "real" drug users.
I'm ashamed to have to share the DRUG USE box with frickin' blow monkeys
and burned out acid heads.
My drug is milder than alcohol and medicinally advantageous.
Damn I lost a great catch because I answered the question honestly.
Can we get a JUST MARIJUANA box?
Its seems almost... necessary.
How dare I lose out because of pot!
How would you drinkers feel if all us who can use it responsibly started telling you:
"I'm not gonna take a chance dating you Alcohol fiend cause you probably just sit around all day and drink and your whole life is likely trash cause you drink on the weekends. " | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/24/2005 5:16:24 AM | | When it comes down to it, it's just like prostitution, it is nerver going to go away, ever. So, if we can manage it in some form or another, then so be it. I'm am not saying everyone shoud do drugs, nor do I think people should smoke cigerettes either (they are legal) what does that say about us, we know they kill but their legal. I however can not smoke a joint without the added worry that people are going to judge me, and you know what they say about those that judge. | |
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Anneri
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Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 206 | |
| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/24/2005 5:27:16 AM | Hi Rainy, its ok i can live with their small mindedness, it makes me feel better about myself as a person.
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/24/2005 8:39:41 AM | | My best friend smoked weed twice a week because he has epilepsy. He first tried taking prescribed meds, but kept having seizures. When he first told me that he started smoking weed, I flipped out because we were not raised to use drugs, bu the told me that his doctor recommended he try it and see what happens. He hasn't had a seizure since, and I don't think its bad that he smokes it now. I guess it really depends upon the situation. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/24/2005 10:19:06 AM | Windra7878, you say that drug use is like prostitution and is never going to go away. Is this your justification for accepting it?
By that same logic, we shouldn't condemn embezzlement because that has always existed and always will.
By that same logic, we shouldn't condemn medical malpractice because it has always existed and always will.
By that same logic, we shouldn't condemn muder because it has always existed and always will.
NOTE: I am NOT saying that drug use is equivalent to embezzlement, medicinal malpractice, or muder. What I AM saying is that your line of reasoning is illogical. If you want to prove that drug use is acceptable in society, you'll have to try a different approach. This one doesn't fly. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/24/2005 10:27:24 AM | | I am sorry but it does apply, since the beginning of time, man has found a way to use some type of additive to alter his mind, be it pot, hash, herion, pcp, pills, the list is endless. You can not force you morality on someone else. What is right for you and yours does not mean that it is right or morally wrong for others. In this country abortion is legal, and there are those that would die trying to stop it, and in fact they have. Does that mean that it is wrong even though it is legal, I think that is up to the people that find themselves in that situation. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/25/2005 8:35:16 AM | Windra, I guess I wasn't clear enough. I meant: your contention that anything that has existed in the past and will most probably exist in the future is therefore "good" is illogical. While you may convince me that this is criteria is necessary of a "good" thing, you can NOT demonstrate that this one criteria is sufficient.
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For the edification of anyone who doesn't know the difference between "necessary" and "sufficient" criteria, let's think of the weather. Suppose you want to prove to me that it is raining outside right now.
You tell me that there are clouds in the sky. While there MUST be clouds before it will rain (Thus, this is "necessary" evidence), this is NOT "sufficient" proof. We all know of times when there are clouds in the sky and it is not raining.
You may also tell me that the pavement is wet. While the pavement is wet when it rains, this is also NOT "sufficient" proof. We all know that the pavement is also wet right after it rains. The pavement is sometimes wet after someone waters their lawn. Thus, you have not yet proven that it is currently raining.
You may also tell me that your umbrella is red. Well, this is NEITHER "necessary" nor "sufficient" proof that it is raining.
But if you tell me that you see the rain falling, you have, in one stroke, given me both "necessary" and "sufficient" proof. (Unless I have reason to doubt your eyesight.) | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/25/2005 9:39:54 AM | | Well, you go right ahead and judge others, and if I do it and it is wrong, then on judgement day who stands to be judged, not you but me. So, if I do drugs, it is not harming you or yours, only me and mine and that is not your concern. Like I said, abortion is legal and I would not want it for myself or anyone I know, but I do not walk in the shoes of those that choose to have one. It maybe legal in the eyes of the law but there are those that believe that in the eyes of God it is a sin, the killing of an innocent. I don't recall the bible saying anything about the smoking of a weed. If my memory of our countries history serves me correct, both Washington and Franklin wanted to make Kemp this countries number one cash crop. How ironic that in many states today hemp is the number one cash crop. | |
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| The.thing.
Posted: 10/25/2005 10:38:18 AM | Its kind of.... I choosed no but I drink coffee and tee both are drugs!!! I dont take any other drugs and taking weed occassionaly is for me not taking drugs. | |
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| The.thing.
Posted: 10/25/2005 10:57:48 AM | Soul: Thank u, you seem to understand what I am saying, there are numerous ways to break the law, crossing in the middle of the street, eating a grape at the supermarket that you did not pay for. So, these people that want to stand in judgement of pot smoking are just too much for me. Pot is not legal but cigerette are, now you tell me which does more harm, alcohol is legal and look at the devistation that it brings, and gambling is legal and look at what it does to families. Judge not ect........ect........... | |
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longte
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Joined: 10/18/2004
Msg: 214 | |
| The.thing.
Posted: 10/25/2005 8:25:06 PM | I don't think it is a question of standing in Judgement
More that Smoking Pot or doing any Illegal drugs is just that
It is Illegal in most instances
If people want to smoke they know they are breaking the law
If they still smoke they face possible risks
If they think the benefits outweigh the risks they keep doing it
But for someone who does not do drugs, the potential association with Law and Drugs can outweigh the benefits of knowing the person using drugs
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/26/2005 2:30:30 AM | I checked no, but I smoke the weed, which I don't consider a drug. It's a herb, Man!
When someone says yes they do drugs, do they mean crack? That's what I think. They should add a category for pot. Doesn't almost everyone enjoy pot? At least here in BC they do! | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/26/2005 2:47:44 AM | | I don't do anything but pharmecuticals anymore.I had to stop,the Rec drugs back in the 90's.I'm telling you though the way i feel right now,A Bottle of Jack Daniels and ab OZ of Blow,would make me a very happy lad at this moment in time.I thibk it's that popularity contest that they had on one of the POF threads earlier"Whose your friggin' Hero on POF,That has turned me quite irate this morning,It has nothing to do with this thread,believe me.i've been on here almost a year now and i'm frustratedthat's all.Be cool | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/26/2005 5:20:07 AM | Thank you jjthedj: At last someone who I can agree with, I am not standing on a soap box here, just saying if the jails were less full of pot dealers, then maybe they would have room for the third time child molesters and they would not be back out on the streets to molest and kill our children.  | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/26/2005 6:02:41 AM | OK the whole thing was rather to check yes or no but when I look at your profile it say's drugs socially. So basicly that tells me you do it occassionally and if the women can handle that then great if not then she wasn't the one for you.
Gizz | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/26/2005 8:12:19 AM |
Doesn't almost everyone enjoy pot?
Actually...no!
I've had a lot of druggie friends in my life. I've watched them spend amazing amounts of time and money obsessing about finding and using the drug of choice. Because I don't, they think I'm crazy.
I had a friend who tried to quit (unsuccessfully). They told her in rehab to avoid people who were using so she wouldn't be tempted. She realized if she did she would have NO friends (except me). Instead of making new straight friends, she found it too difficult.
I know its really easy to think "everybody does it" simply because everyone in your personal circle does it. But its an illusion, and you're kidding yourself if you think people that don't use find the user lifestyle attractive. Frankly, its a huge thing not to have in common; and you can't expect someone with no interest in using to share your enthusiasm for it, and immerse themselves in the lifestyle for your convenience.
As someone who has spent years riding around with people looking for it, weighing it, cleaning it, rolling it, looking for papers, searching for lost pipes, making thousands of phone calls looking for people who want to go "halfsies", scrounging money for it, trying to get paid or get a "front", waiting around for someone to show up, having dealers knocking on your door every payday, having people knocking on your door at ALL hours begging for some, coming home to find your house full of strangers, etc. I am SO glad not to be on the fringes of it any more. My time can be spent much more enjoyably, and sanely.
Don't fool yourself that all this is "fun" for non-users. Its a hassle and a bore to us. Say "yes" in the drug box, and find someone who understands, and likes to live that way. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/26/2005 9:10:53 AM | User? Yeah, I think I'm going to "use" some coffee right now. I have several friends who do not smoke pot, whatever. But I cannot check "yes" because there are many bad drugs out there (e, meth, crack, coke, junk, etc.) and I am not going to be lumped in with that crowd. Believe me, they're out there!!
However, smoking the occasional joint is something I will always bring up very early on so there is no deception. I suspect many others feel as I do... | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/28/2005 9:59:29 AM | Many more posts complaining about the "drug" question. Very few suggestions on how to fix it. Come on folks! Are we part of the problem or part of the solution?
Sounds like many of you like "weed" and don't want to be lumped in with those who do "hard" drugs. Is that right?
So, is your suggestion to the WebMasters to add "Weed only" to the list? Would that fix your poor problem? Would that make your life easier/better on POF? If not, what would? Come on. You are smart people. Find a solution. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/28/2005 10:39:07 AM | That's probably not a bad idea.
I'm not sure if anyone would ever admit to harder drugs, or if people on meth or crack even post on dating sites anyway. They are probably too busy breaking into cars.
Living in BC and having read over many of the women's ads, I would guess many of them are lying when they chose "no" because pot use is so prevelant in BC. I just don't see how the sample of people in POF could be so different from the general population.
I chose "prefer not to say" because to me that sort of implies pot use. I wouldnt want to chose 'no', because then I might end up attracting women who are seriously against it, and to me that indicates they are probably closed minded on a number of issues, and admitting to general drug use is just too inaccurate and open ended. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/28/2005 3:26:17 PM | just get rid of the question....
leave it to come up in conversation...like it normally would.
leave it up to the person who I mail to ask me. I will answer, honestly.
but hey as long as it's left on there...this thread will go on. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 10/30/2005 3:25:13 PM | I checked "no" because I don't classify marjiwana as a drug!! Anything that is taken through chemical changes and is concentrated into a more powerful form is what I consider drugs. Pot is right off the tree. Even booze is much, much worse for you than pot, but not nearly as bad as crack, coke, chrystal meth, L.S.D. and etc. So why would I want people to think I do that really bad stuff, when all I ever have is an occational puff of smoke from an un-chemically altered, natural, plant!! 
I am a very normal intelligent guy, who never does anything to hurt people or society. What's more, I love life and get much out of it!!! And I don't want women to think I do anything more than just pot, because if I checked "yes", that's exactly what it can imply. So "no" I don't do drugs. 
P.S.
If they want to add a "smoke pot occationally box", I will check that off!! | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 11/3/2005 12:00:41 AM | | Just checked out this topic.and to me,having a wee puff would be like having a beer...I prefer wine...ha ha ...but a little bit 'o'the stuff shouldn't be a problem.I checked NO cuz I don't do it anymore but I wouldn't get in touch with someone who ticked YES because it may be a huge part of his life-prefer not to say is cool because when you meet/talk you can discuss it further...no need to put your life on display on a written profile! | |
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