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Posted: 1/2/2006 4:52:22 PM |
Hey Late what model of JBL would YOU put in there..
Money no object?
ToneTubby, alnico 10s
A little cheaper?
Weber VST alnico "California" 10"
JBL D110F (if you can find 'em)
El Cheapo?
Jensen P10N | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 4:07:07 AM | whats up all? greetings from the "great white north"
well first off i'm a lefty any others? 2nd i play through an ibanez ATK.. and i must say being my second bass and another ibanez i am happy with it.. only things i do not like.. it weighs a TON!! and the neck could use to be a lil thinner.. but all in all... i think it out does the musicman.. more versatile.. in my sense.. i love the stingray.. but this seems to out range it.. even down low...now my question...
i', looking for anew amp.. not wanting to go over 1000 cdn so like 800 us.. need sumthing that is gonna keep up for shows and gigs and such.. any suggestions? its been a while since i have read reviews in magazines..
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Posted: 1/3/2006 5:58:25 AM |
if i was to use a seventh string i would use
DADGAD tuning with a double d
or open g tuning.even that would take getting used to.
what are the advantages?
This might be an overly simple answer, but for me, just having another string to play with is an advantage. I started studying a lot of Steve Vai's newer works and that guitar came in handy for that; I don't think I could have done much of his work with a standard six string though.
Really though, it depends on what you play. I write basic alternative rock and my guitar sound has a lot of high end; playing power chords on that low string with lots of high end actually sounds pretty good. Plus, those power chords have a little bit more "meat" on them, it seems. That's just me though.. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 6:14:43 AM | | can someone give me any alternative finger postion for the b chord i cannot get my index , middle and ring finger to all fit within the second fret , i've tried to use my index on the 4th string and then use my middle on both the 5th and 6th strings on the second fret and it seems easier but its hard to go the the E chord in this postion fluently ? | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 8:36:50 AM | welcome to
the guitar player thread
it is awesome to have all of you here this new year of 2006
thanks dudes | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 8:45:40 AM |
can someone give me any alternative finger postion for the b chord
sorry just realized i said B i meant A.....lol
it was early | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 9:07:49 AM | ^^^^
I had that same problem
I usally just play
a sus2
a string-open
dstring-2nd fret
gtring-2nd fret
b string-open
hi e string -open
or a major bar chord
low e string -fifth fret
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Posted: 1/3/2006 9:22:22 AM | "sorry just realized i said B i meant A.....lol"
I usually just use my index finger all accross the strings in the second fret. like a bar....except leave the A string open, and avoid striking the high E string, unless you want the "VI"...and add the ring finger to the third fret, high "E" if you want the "VII"....also barre chord is good sometimes...or use the "F" position...yes, the F that everyone hates...except on the 5th fret. I also use alot of "VI"s and "VII"s in the blues..also the Asus2 as Guitar man said....sometimes avoiding the "II" to make flat "V"....give it a good wiggle for vibrato.... | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:04:29 AM | | Hey thanks bros..... i'll try that tonight and see if it works any better ......g-man A sus2 should be dern near the same tone correct (as traditional A)? Do i strum the high e as well | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:20:16 AM | | When I started playing guitar many years ago, I found it hard to play the "A" chord too. Then while I was watching the Beatles movie "Help!", during the opening film of the Beatles performing the song Help, I noticed how George Harrison played the "A" chord. He used the little finger, ring finger, and middle finger. I tried it that way and have been playing the "A" chord that way ever since. I think it's the easiest way. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:25:09 AM | Ahhhh.... yet another great tip sierrasman , i'll try it out .... thanks man  | |
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Posted: 1/4/2006 11:00:56 AM | NAMM is going down in a couple of weeks in Cali. Ultimate G.A.S. fest of the year, biggest, bestest, anywhere.
Our drummer is going down there (covering the show for "Modern Drummer" magazine), ....lucky **stard. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2006 5:55:16 PM | late
yes he is lucky
the 'all star' clinics' they have are awesome
I love gear ....I really do
mmmmmmm
gear | |
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Posted: 1/4/2006 6:00:01 PM | bootsified
For a bass rig .........
I would suggest a seperate pre-amp
seperate poweramp
in a rack set up
if you buy a really good clean power amp
IE
k2
mackie
crown
you can then buy different bass pre amps and experiment
ampeg makes good stuff
trace elliot
eden | |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 3:57:16 PM | Hey Gman & Late
I told you guys that i had bought a new traynor all tube amp..
I like it its got 2 10" spkr, but I'm finding out that
my low sucks... when i put my guit. on my low p.u.
my 10" wants to puke...lol i know there is a 1-12" model
available and I still have a week to make up my mind so my Q is;
would a 1-12" spkr be better than 2-10" for my low's?
thx you guys I trust your smartsssss lol
Marcel. | |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:10:50 PM | bigger thicker speaker
more thump_
more bass.
the fatter the magnet
the better the thumpin.
lol. | |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:41:39 PM |
would a 1-12" spkr be better than 2-10" for my low's?
Depends on the speaker, and magnet size/weight, and TYPE (ferrite mags have less lows pound for pound than alnico) and speaker efficiancy (some speaks don't "wake up" unless you hit them with enough output, some respond better with less, the difference can be as much as 10db {that's a BIG difference BTW}).
The Celestions in those are made in China "ice-pick" mids girlie speakers. 2 X 40w 10" alnicos will push more air, have more useable headroom with better balanced bandwidth than a single ferrite 12" Ce-less-low.
A single 12" anlnico ToneTubby will make you cry. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2006 12:42:29 AM | marcel
did you buy it from Long and macquade?
cause if you are wanting to swap it and then spend $200 on an excellent speaker
you have just increased the total of the amp to about $800-$900 once you got the speaker
another option is to see what they have at the $1000 range of amps and just get that
maybe you will not have to upgrade the speaker at all and you may get more features too..... | |
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Posted: 1/8/2006 1:07:11 AM | the ceramic tone tubby is available stock in
this crate amp
http://www.crateamps.com/html/product.cfm?pid=112#
might be a good way to hear one at your local store | |
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Posted: 1/8/2006 1:19:41 AM | Juat a FYI,Ceramic = Ferrite.
The Traynor is probably a better build than any Crate. Nice amp, worth upgrading the speaker(s) and bottles.
Like some guys are with guitar pups, I tend to shy away from current OEM speaks, and bottles.
I'm posting from the studio right now, ...did a lot of tracking today, ...went with the '50 Fender Deluxe - Lawson (U-47 type) mic - Neve pre - Neve EQ - Neve - Comp, ....that battered "Tweed" has a 55 year old Jensen P12R in it, ........alnico sweetness! | |
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Posted: 1/8/2006 3:06:26 AM | but what would be better 1-12" or 2-10"???
the amp is fine.... i just find it too bassy sounding
when i crank it up, i have to turn my bass setting down to "0"
and still sounds like my 2 -10" wanna puke ..lol...
do you think a 12" celestion would take/handle the low's
better for the time being?? I will eventualy upgrade the spkr,ASAP.
thx guys,for your info...:O) | |
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Posted: 1/8/2006 3:24:50 AM | easiest way to find out is compare them side to side at the store for bass response
or do you think the 2x10 one is actually broken? | |
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Posted: 1/8/2006 12:44:53 PM | what would be better 1-12" or 2-10"???
Technically, 2 x 10" should be able to handle more bottom than 1 x 12" as you have 20" to "push air" as opposed to 12".
While speaker farting is par for OEM stuff, as Gman says, it could be a fried speaker, it could also depend on what comprises the signal that's hitting the amp, effects, de-tuning, etc. could also be a factor.
What is important though is: the speaker is the final stage in the set-up, it never hurts to have a high-quality componant there, as it's the final arbiter of tone. As far as "tone" is concerned the hierarchy of priority for an amp goes something like this:
Speaker
Output Transformer
Output Tubes
Tone stack
Pre
Non-boutique "consumer" amps usually come with crap tubes (biased "cold" to last out the warranty), and cheap speakers, so don't be surprised at the crap speakers and OTs in current manufacture amps.
The Celestion "Tube 10" speakers in this amp are crap, even if they aren't busted. I have one here that an amp builder wanted me to test for him as a possible OEM supplier for his "boutique" amp line. Crap, crap crap crap crap crap absolutely useless.
Even an entry level "ferrite/ceramic" replacement speaker like a Jensen C10Q would be a vast improvement (+ 10 watts more "headroom"), and a pair of those could probably be picked up for +/- $100 or less "grey-market". For best bottom end performance you would want to "dope" the surrounds, and it would take a month or two for them to "break-in".
eBay the Celestions to finance the swap, some sucker'll buy 'em because they have the word "tube" in them and a lot of metal guys like the Celestion "name" as they're known for having emphasis in the high mids.
Add a pair of decent 5881/6L6-GC output tubes to replace the OEM Russian crap that these come with and you'll have a great amp, JJ/Tesla 6L6s are a great upgrade, if you want the killer tube for this socket, NOS Tungsol 5881s can't be beat and while "pricey", a good matched pair will probably last about 10 - 20 years of normal use.. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2006 1:34:18 PM | ahhhhh now your talking Late...lol good info...
with facts...I was never a celestion fan to begin with..
so come monday.. I'm on my way to Long and McQuade
WITH my axe...to do more testing... and chooz a amp that will
work for me... or at least see how much $$$ Im looking at to improve
this amp, ...thank you ...Late & GMan.. you guys are a awesome
"Team" of info...Im sure glad to have you'sssssss on my side ..hehehe
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