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 the spilly

Joined: 12/8/2005
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Posted: 3/31/2006 10:00:03 PM
so thats 2 votes for a new amp i guess.
 late™

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Posted: 4/1/2006 12:15:54 PM

so thats 2 votes for a new amp i guess.


"Tube" amp, I agree with Gman, Peavey is great "bang for buck". I prefer the rich harmonic content of output tube saturation, lower output amps (+/- 30 watts) "give this up" at a lower sound level, for this? ....Peavey "Classic", and "Delta Blues" series, have great tone at an entry-level price.
 Bluesmanon45

Joined: 3/28/2006
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Posted: 4/1/2006 12:29:55 PM
I found a peavey classic for $200USD......it aint moving yet cause it dont have a fuse in it....but they are gonna call when it gets running....it's a 50w amp.....is that gonna be stageworthy??? Or do I smile, play a few licks and talk them down on a peavey 100w amp head in the other room and build my own cabinet for it? I think that one is going for $300, but Im not that wealthy....yet.

Hope somebodies home.....I'll check back in a while, you guys are indispensible, really!
 guitarman100

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Posted: 4/1/2006 12:53:02 PM
what kind/model of 100w head is it?
 late™

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Posted: 4/1/2006 12:58:01 PM
Depends on "which" Peavey Classic it is. There have been many amps with that name, ...going back to the '70s. Might be good, might be a POS.

Older Peavey '70s amps named "Classic" aren't very desireable.

Model #s and descriptions would help.

Hmmmm.... 50 watts is plenty, as far as SPL, or, ...perceived sound volume, 100w is only 3db louder.

10 watts is "half" the power of 100 watts. If you want to be able to run a tube amp so the output section is hitting the sweet spot at manageable levels, ie: non-stadium gigs, .....10 - 30 watts is a nice range. If you want to play clean with lots of headroom, 50w should cover it, if you are using dirt pedals and/or pre-amp distortion, ....a tube amp is almost superfluous, ....as you aren't using the amp for the tone it can best give (ie: output tube/transformer core saturation), ....just using it as a "clean" PA system for dirt boxes.

My 2¢
 Bluesmanon45

Joined: 3/28/2006
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Posted: 4/1/2006 1:31:16 PM
212 classic, Im finding I like to play alot cleaner than normal lately.....only the wah sometimes, it may be a phase, maybe not, I just like the richness of the tone that gets lost with pre amp compression.

The thing has the standard on off on switch on the back, two speakers side by side in the case, 8 ohm I think, there is a bright jack with two other input jacks on the back of it, a place to plug in a footswitch thing (which is awol) for effects, the standard three knobs for equalization on the front and two master volume knobs....near as I can remember. (Me with a digital camera in the truck......what a dope! Shoulda coulda woulda....)
 Bluesmanon45

Joined: 3/28/2006
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Posted: 4/1/2006 1:52:06 PM
Late, I gotta hand it to ya....nice site, simple, blunt, to the point, nothing but net where Im looking to learn....Im gonna have plenty to do nights from now on....hooked up with a bass player local too...he's trying to put together a club band...no touring, no way. Exactly what I want to be involved in....Then tripping over this disabled piece of hardware in the store....perfect timing, if its worth the lettuce. Now....I gotta go back to page one and touch and say LOL jeeze..... indispensible! thanks again

Gman.....I didnt pay too much attention to the 100w head, its been there a month now, no takers......so Im sorta avoiding the thing too, not having the cash in the first place.
 late™

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Posted: 4/1/2006 2:00:30 PM

I just like the richness of the tone that gets lost with pre amp compression.


You may want a lower powered amp then.


Classic 212


As you can see by the photos of 50 watt Peavey Classic 212 amps collected here, I'm still kinda' vaugue on which amp you're talkin' about.

http://homepage.mac.com/ewald/PhotoAlbum176.html

There are probably more versions...........
 Bluesmanon45

Joined: 3/28/2006
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Posted: 4/1/2006 2:09:36 PM
Im thinking its the middle one on the left now that I look at it....there werent any chrome side bars on the face that I remember....I aughta drive out there and get a photo, but I dont want the price to go up LOL

The speaker housing had sort of a blueish vinyl covering on it, there were two tubes in the back about the same size as each other (3-4 inches long....something like that)
 bikesnblues

Joined: 3/23/2006
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Posted: 4/1/2006 4:42:35 PM
Players, in my opinion, there is only one way to go... small room needs a Vibrolux, big room or outdoors needs a Vibroking....play an old tele or nocaster, you don't need nothing else!
 late™

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Posted: 4/1/2006 7:45:37 PM

The speaker housing had sort of a blueish vinyl covering on it, there were two tubes in the back about the same size as each other (3-4 inches long....something like that)


Sounds like an old '70s VT, ....hybrid SS preamp/tube finals, avoid this critter, ....for the servicing it probably needs, it isn't worth it.
 guitarman100

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Posted: 4/1/2006 8:11:25 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^

agreed !!!

get an all tube one
my personal fav the tweed one
-classic 30
-delta blues 15
-classic 50

they really are not that expensive even new
 Bluesmanon45

Joined: 3/28/2006
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Posted: 4/1/2006 8:48:02 PM
Thanks....you guys rule!!!



When you only get one shot, you better do alot of homework first...good to be able to get ahold of the experts when you need em. Thanks....sounds like yet another near disaster averted.
 bikesnblues

Joined: 3/23/2006
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Posted: 4/2/2006 6:18:05 PM
Why so much talk about equipment!? Why not more about playing technique, little tricks you may have learned from the masters, etc?
 late™

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Posted: 4/2/2006 6:25:45 PM
Why so much talk about equipment!?


It's a "Gear" thread.

OP:


OK
Here it is the place for all fellow guitar gearheads to chat and ask questions....






Why not more about playing technique


There's a thread for that here:

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts1542626.aspx
 guitarman100

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Posted: 4/2/2006 8:06:03 PM
yes this is more of a gear thread

it is very difficult to express musical ideas on a discussion forum like this
and the few that I have seen try to do it, are a big snooze fest I love guitar gear
 guitarman100

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Posted: 4/9/2006 4:13:31 PM
hi
I have just watched
Joni Mitchell's dvd
Shadows of Light

with Jaco and Pat matheny

I totally recommend it

I can see where Micheal Hedges kinda got his sound
 late™

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Posted: 4/10/2006 1:57:46 PM
Slide Guitar, ....on the cheap.

First:

Get yourself a re-issue Danelectro U1, U2, or U3. (these are discontinued because the Dano "name" and the designs associated with it were not sold to the same owners). These are "hollowbody" guitars, an MDF (fiber-board) top and back sandwiching bits o' plywood...... $150 - $300

These cardboard axes, have a very primative bridge saddle, ....a stick o' rosewood on a hunk a' metal. Perfect.

The pick-ups aren't exactly the same as the originals, but passable, IMO.

Shim the nut with a thin slice o' credit-card, (you have credit cards? ...must not have been playing guitar professionaly...)

String it up with a set of 12's, .....unwound "G", ....loosen the truss-rod a quarter turn.

Tune to open G, or A, ....smile.

I used to use a big-assed Dunlop thick-glass slide on my ring-finger (don't use your pinky, ....leave it for fretting/muting notes), I kept on breaking them when they would fall and hit the base of the mic stand, .....as a temp solution, I would get a fluted-shooter glass from the waitress/bartender, and use it.

It worked better, ....the slight curve "tracked" the strings better, and the extra mass at the bottom of the glass added tons of sustain.

Added bonus: If you break it? ...or even forget to bring one? .........You're in a bar/club? = Field Replaceable Gear.

This is what it sounds like dirty, through a 1/3 watt recording amp:

http://homepage.mac.com/ewald/.Music/new1trk3.MP3

http://homepage.mac.com/ewald/.Music/new1trk4.MP3



Listen to:

Lowell George
Ry Cooder
Sonny Landreth
 Murphy83

Joined: 7/6/2005
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Posted: 4/11/2006 9:30:28 AM
Can anyone tell me anything about this guitar, it belongs to my friends brother. There are no markings on it besides the Suzuki logo on the top. Looking for any info - year, model, price??

http://www.putfile.com/murphy83


thanks
 guitarman100

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Posted: 4/11/2006 11:34:39 AM
looks like a decent bc rich copy
 possum007

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Posted: 4/12/2006 6:02:56 PM
les paul standard
vox ac30
i have a lot of favorite pedals - i can't do with out my tu-2, i have a line 6 dl-4 to simulate an old maestro echoplex, also the electroharmonix big muff pi usa.
 Paulchino II

Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 4/13/2006 6:16:37 AM
I got a tech question...changing my stings on the acoustic yesterday...and I noticed that the frets have "flattened" out where the strings touch....

Is that normal wear? or a sign of cheap frets?
....me thinks it might be the latter....
 guitarman100

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Posted: 4/13/2006 11:38:23 AM
welcome possum007

stick around this is the best thread on here


paulchinoII

that can be a sign of normal wear..............

though many manufactuers of lower end guitars will use a softer wire because it is easier in manufactering

a partial refret with a good quality wire
like damarzio or stew-mac will fix it
 late™

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Posted: 4/13/2006 1:46:10 PM
that can be a sign of normal wear..............


Even decent fret wire will flatten somewhat. If it's a tall enough wire, you can get the fretboard levelled and re-crowned a few times before a re-fret becomes a necessity. I can usually get about 3-4 dressings out of a strat before there's not enough to work with.

Another reason I use pure-nickle wound strings on my electrics (except archtops, flatwounds please), as opposed to strings with a harder metalurgy (stainless, etc.)
 guitarman100

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Posted: 4/13/2006 5:16:27 PM
^^^^^^^^^

I find it depends on the player..................

I myself love jumbo frets
0.055" high if I level them I lose that nice feeling I get while bending strings
I prefer to replace the dimpled frets and level as little as possible

people who play mostly chords like lower fret I find............

My advice is find a good guitar tech in your area and usally for a little more than a fret level or partial fret level you can put in new frets for the whole guitar
IE

you can try a different fret size
I refretted my first strat with jumbo fret wire and I would never go back
stevie ray used
6105 fret wire which is tall
I recommend 6100 or even 6000
which are tall and wide
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