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 acoustic!

Joined: 3/29/2006
Msg: 1476
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Posted: 4/14/2006 10:38:18 AM
To the newbies....
Use the advice of a seasoned musician...It will save you big time in the end....Tried tested and true....
Its free....of course you have to find your way through it but guidance will make life more easy...this advice comes from someone who has already had the growing pains...
take the advice or don't.. but be glad someone is offering it
 acoustic!

Joined: 3/29/2006
Msg: 1477
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Posted: 4/14/2006 10:45:00 AM
i have a 53 ga-90 gibson amp i have acquired...needs some work anyone got any insight
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
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Posted: 4/14/2006 2:00:16 PM
Rare amp, great for blues harp, worth a few $ in good condition, so radical modifications aren't a good idea.

Save all the parts you replace, if it hasn't been serviced in the last 20 years or so, it WILL need new filter caps (electrolytic), a grounded AC cord, and probably new tubes, (...all of which you should be able to find replacements or subs for).
 acoustic!

Joined: 3/29/2006
Msg: 1479
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Posted: 4/14/2006 3:00:13 PM
ya i updated that post but dont know if it went through anyway its in good shape only 150 made that year probably needs new tubes and speakers
 late™

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Posted: 4/14/2006 3:53:54 PM
For sure it will need new caps, some tubes may be okay, but it's best to get some new ones and "shot-gun" test the old ones by swapping them in, ....make sure you do the 5881's in pairs. Speakers are probably okay, unless they're rotted out, 25 watts spread over 6 Jensens isn't a big strain. Stay away from the Russian 5881's, they would suck for this amp.

What happens if you power up?
 acoustic!

Joined: 3/29/2006
Msg: 1481
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Posted: 4/14/2006 7:57:13 PM
im not sure its been a while since i checked it out gotta dig it out i suppose that would be the first step
 HotFishie

Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 1482
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Posted: 4/16/2006 12:05:12 PM
What a strange place to start a guitar player's thread!

Apart from BettB... have there been many women posting to this thread?

I thought this site was all about finding women, not guitar buddies?

I happen to be a guitar player but I visit other sites that are strictly dedicated to guitar-playing. That way I get to chat with 100x more players than I could here. The discussions are much richer and varied.

I'm just trying to understand the rationale behind this thread, on this site?
This is not meant to spoil the party or anything.

The POF forums have discussion topics other than dating, this particular forum is to discuss Art/Music, this thread is for discussing "guitar gear", (richer and varied not applicable to the topic), this thread has had many women participants, and many professional guitarist participants, and a few posters who are in the "guitar gear" business, the OP is a luthier and another participant builds/designs/repairs tube amps.

That would be:

"the rationale behind this thread, on this site"


BTW, I strongly suggest you read the link to the forum rules at the top of this forum:
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In particular, "Registrations", as having multiple profiles is not allowed, pick one and delete the other(s), failing to do this will result in all being deleted from the site.

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 Paulchino II

Joined: 8/16/2005
Msg: 1483
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Posted: 4/16/2006 2:27:45 PM
^^^^
guitar is related to music...this is an art/music forum...seems pretty straight forward to me
 guitarman100

Joined: 8/25/2004
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Posted: 4/16/2006 8:07:02 PM
Hotfishie


It makes all the sense in the world to have this on here
let me explain.................


I sign on here to check my mailbox .........
"Oh I have no mail again........women don't love me I suck !!!!!!"

"I feel bad let's see if there is something new on 'the guitar thread'......
oh there is !!!!! joy !!!!"

see perfect place to have a thread like this
 dualstrats

Joined: 1/22/2006
Msg: 1485
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Posted: 4/17/2006 12:54:12 PM
always a party pooper in the crowd,,,gezzz
this is the only thread that goes into details,on amps,guitars
and their workings,and thank you Late and Guitarman for all
your input and time,to help those of us who are trully interested
in this.Not that im any good at playing but i play for myself
and thats all that matters.....
question for Late..do you have a shop?
where in toronto?can you do mods to my traynor head?
 late™

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Posted: 4/17/2006 1:38:05 PM
Traynor mods, eh?

Hmmmmm...... is that a YRM-1 Reverbmaster?

What would you like it to do?

I'm in E. Ontario, and I don't "take in" any mod work, but I know a guy in Pickering who does.
 guitarman1425

Joined: 3/25/2006
Msg: 1487
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Posted: 4/17/2006 7:21:25 PM
Hello 100 .....I am 1425...... nice to see others with similar interests....... I have a '79 Strat I bought new that year and is my #1...... Brown smoke sunburst....bought a Tele in '89 for a back -up ....same - same .....nice pair..... love the tube amps, have a lil Fender Super Champ and a new Pignose 12" w/60watts - tube for a back-up as well.... I love the small amps because I can turn them up to like 6 or 7 (volume) ...still get a clean rhythm sound and bite your head off when I turn up the guitar(full) to solo..... that's old school ... I use a Digitech GSP-21 rack unit w/foot controller (digital FX) and I also have a pedal board full of analog goodies....FUN.... Guitarman1425
 guitarman1425

Joined: 3/25/2006
Msg: 1488
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Posted: 4/17/2006 7:32:29 PM
You really seem to have a technical handle on all the equipment..... did you get started in it as a musician first and then a technician or the other way around ???
 late™

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Posted: 4/17/2006 9:26:08 PM
If you mean me?

I started playing when I was about 5, got my first shock from the inside of a tube amp at 8, I burned a hole through the tip of a screwdriver, thus teaching me what a capacitor was for.

Curious cat, not dead yet. I was lucky to live in Winnipeg in the late '60s to mid '70s, .....Gar Gillies (Garnet Amps), had a shop near the airport, ...When I had questions, he had answers. I've never been in the repair biz, but I can tell in a second, whether a tech knows his shit or not.

The great thing about (older P to P) tube amps is, the failure modes are consistant.

Super Champ, ........killer amp, Rivera design. If I had one of those, I would hang on to it.
 guitarman100

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Posted: 4/17/2006 9:58:46 PM
I started as a guitar player
I was always modding and experimenting with guitars

at a certain point I had way too many to afford to have someone else do the work for me
so I learnt how to fix guitars

I took a lot of pride in the work I did, I decided to try and be the best guitar tech/builder I could be.........I read everything and bought every dvd and book I could put my hands on.....

then I went full-time bought tons of luthier tools and built a small shop

I still play guitar......but, the challenges of building are new and exciting,It is the natural extension of my playing

ps
and................. I make more money as a tech ,than I did as a player
 bluemystery

Joined: 9/18/2004
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Posted: 4/18/2006 9:18:47 AM
Ok...thats it. Tommorow night I am off to trade in my Line 6 212 spider II, that I bought a couple of months ago...and because I find the info on this thread absolutely invaluable, I must share my veiws on this amp.

Buy one if you want to spend all your gig time trying to dial in your sound.
Buy one if you want to beg borrow and buy pedals just to get a tone that is passable.
Buy one if you like the tinny sound of an AM radio...although the metal and insane settings are very cool...I play blues and old rock...lol
Buy one if you like the sound of a digital reverb and delay decay....
Buy one if you like it when your soundman says..."your amp sounds like kife"
Buy one if you like it when your soundman says..."this band has a certain sound, and this ain't it"

Don't buy one if you have ever said something like..."I will never use anything but a tube amp"
Don't buy one if you have ever said something like..."I love my Fender Twin"
Don't buy one if anyone has ever said to you something like..."Jeez...that twin makes you sound genius"

Yes, with great humiliation I admit, I gave up a twin for this thing...duh...thinking well, its lighter, less maintainence,(my twin kept kakking at gigs) and seems more versatile....live and learn, sometimes the hard way...

...soooo, now what? I play in bars and lounges, and will be recording soon. Also on a budget...We have a moderatley loud stage sound...except sometimes we are required to play very quietly...I need an amp that is versatile, and easy to operate...I am not much of a gear head...I play an Ibanez series S with stock pickups, which I have raised the pickups for more sustain, I use it because its very light, and came with a Floyd rose whammy... and my shoulder doesn't fair well after a night or two with heavier guitars... cant afford to replace it but definatley will asap, and can't afford another twin.

 late™

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Posted: 4/18/2006 9:51:22 AM
Budget?

Tone preference -
- "bee buzz" high gain ?
- output tube "warmth"?

Welcome back to the order of the thermionic valve.
 guitarman100

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Posted: 4/18/2006 12:20:38 PM
bluemystery


dude I am here to help..............

get a loan,many music shops will do financing at like 2-3 %
buy used.........
life is too short for bad tone

If you have a car you can afford a rig

suggestions on the cheap..................
-peavey tube amps are cool

-used rocktron piranha

-I had an s series ibanez like yours
sounded kinda hard and thin to my ears...............
rg sounds better
strat with a humbucker is nice too
schecter makes some nice guitars too
 bluemystery

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Posted: 4/18/2006 2:36:53 PM
Well...no car...lol...

I plan to finance something for sure; I will be able to trade in the line 6 on something. Just need to keep the payments low.... thankyou.

...re tone preference....warm heavy bluesy. I like a fast neck so that playing doesn't seem like a chore. Good delay and sustain on solos kind of thing. We are a 3 peice (sometimes 4 with keys) so big guitar is important...and I like vintage bluesy sounds....I will look at a peavey tube amp as suggested, and see what they have for axes...maybe change out the pickups.

It was suggested to me that a lower watt tube amp might sound better than a high watt one...I know a guy plays a strat thru randall, sounds alright...but he also has lottsa bells and whistles which I hope to avoid.

I hope this is the last time I switch up gear for a long time...the headache of this constant pursuit for the right tone is going to drive me over the edge!
 late™

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Posted: 4/18/2006 3:02:49 PM

vintage bluesy sounds


Peavey Delta Blues 115 (tweed is nice)

Around $500 new/$300 used

(*When you want to upgrade it, swap in a 50w "P15N type" "Weber VST alnico 15" speaker)

I've talked a few people into this one, ....absolutely no complaints.

It's like a '50s Fender Tweed Vibrolux, .....on steroids

(Trust me on this one, this is what I'm comparing it to)
http://homepage.mac.com/ewald/.Pictures/vibrolux.jpg
 guitarman100

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Posted: 4/18/2006 5:17:51 PM
blue mystery

late suggestions are really good

on the s series...............

I think the tone is inherit to the design I had u.s. dimarzios in mine and it was ok
but I have set some up for clients too
and they just don't have as good of tone because of the body design

when you are out there try an upper end strat with a humbucker in the bridge

you are in Calgary I am in edmonton maybe I can help.....
 Paulchino II

Joined: 8/16/2005
Msg: 1497
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Posted: 4/19/2006 11:29:55 PM
a slight shift in the tone discussion....

I was browsin' the acoustics the other day...picked out 3 in the $900 to $1200 range...Yepiphone masterbuilt, Taylor, and Martin...

...all played very nice...BUT the tone on the Taylor blew the other two away...and that was the mid-priced one...

...all great solid construction...strings didn't look or feel too worn...then I took a closer look...was 90% sure that the Taylor had a Tusq saddle...sure enough...Tusq is standard on Taylors...

....I put Tusq parts on my bottom of the barrel Epiphone acoustic...VERY IMPRESSED...but still I'm looking to upgrage...the old gal (approaching her third year! heheee) needs work...and I think I'd rather invest in a really good quality acoustic....

...I'm thinking I could purchase a $600 - $800 Epi Masterbuilt, fit it with tusq...and walk away with a few hundred bucks left in my pocket....oh but the Taylor is super nice too....

...Any opinions?
 late™

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Posted: 4/20/2006 12:02:10 AM
Taylor or Martin

The D bodied Taylor with mahogany sides and back is nice.

Martin D 18 is still my favorite flat-top, .....but it's a '59, I haven't played a new Martin that comes close to the old Martins, ...or the new Taylors.

Which ever I ended up with, I'd probably use a bone saddle, or fossilized ivory, ...picky that way.
 guitarman100

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Posted: 4/20/2006 12:30:40 AM
The D bodied Taylor with mahogany sides and back is nice.....


yes I quite like the full mahogany acoustics by taylor and martin
less $$$ and warm tone

paulchino
I am not familiar with the masterbuit epis yet
so hard for me to say
I think the resale on the martin would be better though

ps
2 piece saddles tend to intonate better........they have the proper throw for the string
 jaydavey34

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Posted: 4/20/2006 4:47:08 PM
crate...ST...I play classical, and that stuff punches out sound eternal. Malaguena never
sounded fatter!!!!
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