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 guitarman100

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Posted: 11/16/2006 8:51:58 PM
mr x

"Checked out MoscowDude on You Tube. Seeing some of the responses to that here on the site reminds me of the "How many guitar players does it take to change a lightbulb? All of them 'cause they can all do it better."



I was thinking that too ........you just beat me to the post.
thanks for your kind words and good contributions. That is why this thread is cool, it is because people contribute and keep coming back.

 Paulchino II

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Posted: 11/16/2006 10:12:47 PM
Re: You Tube video....

....he's great...certainly can play circles around me....my only problem with it....
...the way it was done....

...straight shot of the fretboard...
...soloing over jam tracks....what's the point?

"hey ladies! look what I can do with my fingers!"

Reminds me of another vid I saw on you tube...look up Mick Barr & Zach Hill
...shredding madness...but I can appreciate this one a LITTLE more because there is an actual concept....(however far out it may be)

...actually...Moscow dude's technique is more refined than Barr's ...I'd just like to see him compose a tune and jam it out instead of just SHOWING OFF on You Tube....
 JackBNimble

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Posted: 11/17/2006 1:33:37 AM
hey Mr X ..I hear ya about the mexican strat necks ..lol Excellent ! I have one fitted onto my Squire .. love it too . Cheapest best necks on the market .
 avwalker

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Posted: 11/17/2006 7:32:01 AM
hey guys, first post on here.

Ive been playing for around 12 years, like rock, blues, country, metal, jazz, etc. Im kind of a tone snob and a do-it-yourselfer when it comes to equipment. I build amps and effects pedals as a hobby. Heres my current setup:

guitars
Mexican Telecaster with lindy fralin pickups and locking tuners, modified (sanded down) and tung oiled neck
Epiphone SG with Dimarzio Air Norton and Tone Zone modded for 5way PRS rotary switching.
El Cheapo lapsteel (might be made of real wood, not quite sure)
Oscar Schmidt acoustic (my first guitar)
Washburn 5 string bass

Pedal Board
Morley Volume
IC Buffer pedal
Vox Wah modded for true bypass
Ross Compressor clone
MI Audio Crunchbox
Fulltone OCD
EA Tremolo Clone
DOD Digital Delay (for slapback)
Line 6 echo park (for longer delay)
Canare GS6 cables with neutrik connectors
One spot adapters

amps
-1975 Fender Bassman head modded to a AB763 super reverb circuit (sans reverb and vibrato)
-handbuilt single ended 10 watt Octal Fatness head (6SJ7 preamp / EL34 poweramp)
-currently building a single channel 18 watt marshall clone
-avatar cabinet with celestion vintage 30 and eminence wizard speakers

oh yeah, and a guitar pick
 chthonic

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Posted: 11/17/2006 12:18:49 PM
Just want to say thanks to everyone for the helpful feedback from my last question. Also for some reason I can't find that guitar player from Moscoe on You tube. But I did come across a video on there called "guitar played like a piano" and wondered if anyone else saw it and what they think if they have, thanks.
 Melody_maker

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Posted: 11/18/2006 5:01:00 PM
Has this ever happened to you?

I just got a phone call a couple of hours ago from one of the bands I work with that we're doing a 2 hour gig tonight. Great right? Ummm...only problem is I don't know one flippin song we're doing. This is the 3rd time they've pulled this crap on me...SCOUNDRELS. I've heard some of the stuff on the radio and such, others I've never even heard of. Oh well, IMPOV time again ...lol.

Time to baptize my new strat ;)

I'll let you guys know how it went later. Should be an interesting night.
 late™

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Posted: 11/18/2006 6:50:04 PM


I just got a phone call a couple of hours ago from one of the bands I work with that we're doing a 2 hour gig tonight.


My bread n' butter, ...it's called a "cold call".

The only gigs I really enjoy, ...I was a "go to" guy for these for a couple of decades, ...any style, the less familiar the better, .....no "pop" any genre, ....I'm the antithesis of the "jukebox" syndrome, .....

How well it goes depends on who good the other musicians are.
 guitarman100

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Posted: 11/18/2006 7:45:50 PM
you guys get charts or lead sheets right?
are you doing covers? or 'blues jams in e'?

I can see how a drummer might be able to fake a gig cold
but if you are the one suppling the chord structures you kinda need to know what they are right?
 late™

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Posted: 11/18/2006 7:50:47 PM
you guys get charts or lead sheets right?
are you doing covers? or 'blues jams in e'?

I can see how a drummer might be able to fake a gig cold
but if you are the one suppling the chord structures you kinda need to know what they are right?


Hell no!

I'm a freakin' musician, ....after a while, ...I don't even need to know the KEY.

Dude, ...I've been doing this from the top drawer for over 3 decades, I only need notes if I was on the original session.



I can sit in with musicians from pretty much any part of the world, ...it's part of the "craft".

The only thing I won't play is "pop".

Over the years, ...music has more in common with a professional wrestling ethos, than any actual skill and ability and quality.

...Why I really lost my enthusiasm.

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 BigMike_pierrefonds

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Posted: 11/19/2006 12:48:59 AM
just saw this thread, i gotta say... Awesome to see some musician's around!

I play electric guitar.

I use an ibanez Gio GRX170 i believe thats the model, Its got EMG 81(bridge)85(neck) with a stock single coil in the middle(its very very low output because its not active)

my amp is a peavey bandit 112, 80 watt amp, its very nice.. has a great sound for rock.

I use a digitech Death Metal Pedal, its probably the best distortion pedal i've ever used.

I like to play stuff like :Slipknot, Lamb of god, Disturbed, Pink Floyd, Led zeppelin, Ac/Dc etc..

I've been playing for about 5 years, im turning 20 in about a month and i got my first guitar at 15 i believe.
 Paulchino II

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Posted: 11/19/2006 4:30:47 AM

...I don't even need to know the KEY.


Just came back from a mad jam....buddy (sort of) wrote a tune on the guitar...we jammed it out and it was pure f*ckin' magic...

....no calling out chord progressions....he played and I picked up on it...yup a little easier for the drums......but that's what music is all about....no better rush than when everything meshes on the fly.....
 guitarman100

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Posted: 11/19/2006 8:24:11 AM
LATE


Hell no!
I'm a freakin' musician, ....after a while, ...I don't even need to know the KEY.
Dude, ...I've been doing this from the top drawer for over 3 decades, I only need notes if I was on the original session.
I can sit in with musicians from pretty much any part of the world, ...it's part of the "craft".
The only thing I won't play is "pop".



exactly LATE .............

I was in a jazz fusion band for years and I prided myself in being able to do this very skill too
It is meshing or falling into a musical fabric created by a GROUP of musicians.........

that is VERY different than accompaning a singer on solo guitar
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holding up all the chord changes to 30 songs you have never heard with no charts.. cold
(which is what I was referring to earlier)
If a musician can do this he truely is a psychic

 Melody_maker

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Posted: 11/19/2006 8:26:27 AM
Nah, no chord charts or lead sheets. I make up chords on the fly really. Pretty easy to do if you know any theory and understand your scales.

The gig last nigt went .... well let me say, I'm trying to forget about it lol. We went through a few songs before we hit the stage and the rhythm guitarist decided to use a capo in a couple of songs so a lot of the songs were played in flats/sharps. No problem I thought I'll just improv some tasteful lead licks and thats that. Well problem was he forgot to put the capo on in one song so we all started playing in different keys, then when he put his capo on he forgot to take it off...lol. I don't think the audience really noticed any difference, we got a nice response but it sure frustrated the hell out of me.

Being a lead guitarist we all know that most of the heads in the audience are turned on you. Sucks when other members start playing in the wrong key than originally discussed. Makes you look like you're the one that's screwing up. Oh well, alls well that ends well. It's a new day
 guitarman100

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Posted: 11/19/2006 9:05:03 AM

Being a lead guitarist we all know that most of the heads in the audience are turned on you. Sucks when other members start playing in the wrong key than originally discussed. Makes you look like you're the one that's screwing up. Oh well, alls well that ends well. It's a new day



actually I think that is how 'avant garde jazz' actually started
 Melody_maker

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Posted: 11/19/2006 10:56:42 AM
are you doing covers? or 'blues jams in e'?


We did a combination of both. Most of the stuff was in the fusion, Ballad, progressive vein really. And about the key of "E", am I the only guitarist that can't stand playing in that key? Not sure why I just don't like it, with the exception of Em. I can dish out some pretty dreamy stuff in that key.

When it boils down to it though, just give me ANY key or mode and I'll do my thing ;)
 guitarchick

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Posted: 11/19/2006 6:28:44 PM
you guitar guys have to check this guy out
he is 36 from Moscow (a 5 minute video)
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what do you guys think of this video


The first video had some wicked arppeggiating...very fluid, jazzy, and accurate! The 2nd video, I was digging on the orange guitar with no dots on the fingerboard and it looked like a custom humbucker in the bridge, jumbo frets too (liked the guitar, can't you tell?). Again, fluid and jazzy, with nice rock solo elements in there too. Too bad killer guitar soloing is so OUT right now... Nice, thanks for sharing!
 guitarman100

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Posted: 11/20/2006 7:43:30 AM
guitarchick


I actually think killer guitar solos are making a comeback a bit
I see lots of homemade videos on youtube of people playing Vai,satriani and dream theater......etc

Young kids like 15

just type in something like jazz fusion guitar and you will see tons of unknowns in that genre too

I think with things like the g3 tour and dvd concerts there has been a new awareness of great guitar players.

I actually like the level it is at now
IE
If you are into that stuff,it is easy to find
I grew up in the 80's and toward the end of the decade it became kinda nauseating to goto
a music store.

there was WAY to much of that gunslinger guitar guy mentality
so much so that it came off as not being 'legit'

hence the public backlash that followed................
80's shred guitar killed itself........it imploded

I truely believe the great guitar player concert stuff and videos available today are far better and more diverse.
 guitarchick

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Posted: 11/20/2006 4:42:03 PM
Well, guitarman, I hope you're right! That would be a great thing. As I am a jazz fan, I am more of a rock fan and appreciate a little less jazz and a little more rock, maybe prog rock is what I'm talking about. There's so much more than pentatonic....

It's so cool to see young kids getting their groove on with guitars and such. It makes me want to go and practice! I got so sick of guys (not too many girls) being all full of themselves, totally pompous a**es, and it was (in the 80s) more about ego than substance. Some guitarists out in L.A. were just into trading up their guitars all the time, never keeping them for too long. I guess you can make money on that stuff if you can modify them (as you can). I always wanted to learn how to build and modify guitars, and I'm sure I will someday.

I love in that movie, Waynes World, how the music store banned "Stairway to Heaven" from being played. Hilarious. I kind of think it should have been "Rock and Roll" instead!



We can't rely on the older vets out there forever, so it's good to see a fresh batch of youngins...keeps you on your toes so to speak. Hope to see more girls out there too!



This is a "gear" thread, try to stay on topic please/moderator
 newbrunswick84

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Posted: 11/20/2006 9:15:47 PM
gibson sg
peavey amp
boss pedals
chorus
phase shifter
analogue delay
 guitarman100

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Posted: 11/22/2006 5:15:58 PM
hey guitar people !!!!!!

I saved this awesome GEAR TRICK for today to share with you............

I always wanted to try one of those little mixers ..you know the style
mackie 1202,behringer 4 channel mixer......etc

as a PARALLEL EFFECTS LOOP

WOW !!! did it ever work well

1) run your mixer in your amp's efx loop on channel one
balance the levels so you have unity gain (the efx loop in or out sounds the same)

2)use the 'send 'on the mixer to a delay,reverb,chorus pedal etc(out)-----> to channel 2 on the mixer ...blend in effect to taste
(make sure the effect is 100% wet to avoid phase problems of doubling the original guitar signal)
3) master out on mixer------>efx loop return on your amp(remember to pan mixer properly ...this is a mono signal.....I did hard pan left, for all signals

mixer trick
this can sound amazing my friends !!!!!
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variations on the theme.................
1) do another signal send to another efx unit for channel strip 3 on the mixer,blenad that
in too

2) try adjusting the eq on the mixer for your straight signal on channel one
eg a bass or treble boost

3)adjust the level
-of straight signal on ch.1 of the mixer
-or master channel on mixer
use as an overall amp master volume for late nights

4)use the panning on the mixer to create a stereo mix, feed it to 2 amps

5) try the mixer efx BEFORE the amp

lots of possiblities

I use a little $95 behringer mixer for my experiment,It blew me away how well it worked
for this application.........just start off getting your 'unity gain' ..........
test by bypassing the efx loop and bringing it back in with the mixer inline,
the tone should be the same.........then experiment with sends to pedals





 guitarman100

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Posted: 11/25/2006 10:32:07 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

this mixer trick is used by Steve Morse
he even had a rig where he could adjust the various effects blends via
foot pedals or volume controls.

I have not employed this system in a live situation yet,because it is a little more
complicated of a wiring schematic.........
I have used it in my studio with excellent results

 ItsMeDoggie

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Posted: 11/25/2006 4:55:21 PM
you guys are off the chart.......the worlds greatest thread....come back to read it now and again..........pick up a bc rich warlock(bronze series) and a 40w fender reverb amp,only paid $50.00 for both............hooked the fender amp into my acoustic model128 amp speaker....one big speaker...much bigger sound.... you guys are the best.......
 mr x

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Posted: 11/27/2006 7:13:32 AM
Excellent concept G-Man.

Don't forget you can loop out on your mixer using the aux's as well(+ sub outs and on board effects). Could have other potential blends. Oooo the possibilities....

Once again...great thread.

Question for anyone out there...I have to replace my 2 12" celestions in my Flextone III( 2 x 75 watt @ 8 ohms). What are everyones fav guitar speakers out there?

 guitarman100

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Posted: 11/27/2006 10:54:12 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

weber alnico's
or TONE tubby Alnicos


there are a lot of different models from them ,but google them they are the goods


MR X
ps
On the mixer efx loop, yes very exciting concept and a lot of differnet choices
 bassmanblues

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Posted: 11/28/2006 4:11:56 PM
Hey cats! I'm a newbie to POF in Halifax, NS. I've been playing bass on and off for over 20 years. Currently playing in a local blues band. I also play some acoustic guitar and piano.

Gear list includes:
Larrivee Paragon 4 string fretted electric bass
Larrivee Paragon 4 string fretless electric bass
Plywood 3/4 double bass with Biesele magnetic coil array pickup

Gallien-Kruger Micro bass amp MB150E-III/112
Peavey TNT130
Yorkville Y50B

Simon & Patrick 6-string acoustic
Takamine Classical
Yamaha 12-string cut away with built in pre-amp
Regal 6-string parlour guitar (circa 1928)

Roland RD300S electric piano (circa 1990)

I also have a new axe that I'm working towards. It's a handmade 5-string fretless she's pretty hot!

Later,
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