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Posted: 2/17/2007 12:54:38 AM | i have to thank late™ regarding the delta blues 30.
infact, i have a better understanding about my equipment now, than i ever had before.
straight out of the delta 30 amp, its hot !
when you know your sound that you demand from the amp....this amp delivers, more bang for you buck ! right late™ ;)
and its true....i agree with your own words...."less is more"
the output saturation is awesome....
thanks you late™ | |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 9:05:40 AM | "less is more"
Hmmm...
A rant about the future, and a little history, ...recent, and "ancient".
In the 90s, digital modeling came into the picture, "sounds just like a real tube amp! ANY tube amp you want!"
I remember wanting to put a recording rig together about 10 years ago, and at the music store I had been going to for over 20 years, I was talked into buying a Line 6 POD, "sounds just like a real tube amp! ANY tube amp you want! This is the future of guitar amps!"
"The future?"
I got it home, and went through the presets, ....sounded like ass. Remember, I'm one of those old-timers who has used tube amps since the late '60s, and I've played through all the classic sought after "holy grail" amps. I called up my buds at the store and said, "This thing sounds like crap, what's the deal?"
"Oh, you have to tweak it, don't use the presets."
Okay, did that, tried to get a decent sound for two weeks, no matter what I did, I could get it to sound close, but I could not get the damned thing to react like a tube amp, ...which is key to exploiting what makes tube amps desireable, ...an output stage behaves in such a way that there's a complex dynamic loading that happens between the output tubes, output transformer, and speaker. It's NOT just the "tone", it's the fact that you can go from clean to scream from the amp by varying touch and attack with your fingers, and you can move the sweet spot around by using the guitar's controls.
The modelling amps?
I get nothin'.
I returned it and got a refund.
"The future" looked bleak, and sounded like ass.....
Now almost every mainstream amp vendor has a digital modelling amp, ...I remember when the Cyber Twin came out, ...same problems as the POD, except Fender added a preamp tube, ...marketing genius, but still, ....the Cyber Twin is, IMO, only a good starter platform for a two-holer out house, ...once the speakers are yanked out of course.
Still, I keep hearing "sounds just like a real tube amp! ANY tube amp you want!" or, "Oh, only "Brand X" modelling amp is good, way better than the others..."
Bullshit, ....I wonder if most who say this have ever even played through the amps that these pieces of crap are supposed to "model", ...let alone owned any.
Bah!
Now a little "recent history":
In the meantime, I had been restoring my '70s V4 ampeg since '97, ...my favourite amp ever, but at 100+ watts, too much power to play at full tilt, ...so I was stuck using an overdrive pedal, ...not perfect, but still worlds better than the software driven boat anchors.
I then bought a '65 Gibson GA-15 RVT off ebay in 2000, I paid about $175 for it, ...nobody would bid on it because, "it works, but hums loudly."
As soon as I got it in the house, I checked it out, HHHHUMMMMMMMMM... but, it worked.
I unplugged it, and pulled the chassis and replaced the filter caps = hum gone, .....I replaced one preamp tube, and swapped in a couple of Mullard EL 84s (THE holy grail of EL 84s, ....got 'em out of a flea market for $5, these go for $200 a pair on eBay), turned it on, cranked it full (+/- 10 watts), and .......heaven.
And, ....no hum.
A little info on "watts":
Is 50 watts half as loud as 100 watts?
Nope, the difference is about 3db, watts and perceived volume level is exponential, half the volume of 100 watts is 10 watts, half the volume of 50 watts is 5 watts.
The GA-15 was great, but with the volume dimed, ....it was still loud enough to disturb the neighbours. 10 watts? I wanted something with a sweet spot at a volume level where it was loud enough to fill the room, and not too loud to wake up the baby sleeping down the hall.
"The future"
In the '90s, there were a few guys homebrewing low power single-ended tube amps, ...one preamp tube, usually a 12AX7, and one power tube, ...EL84. These were designed to run at full power - .5w to 5w.
In 2000, my amp tech (who had built a 1.5 watt prototype he called the "L'il Punch" - one volume knob, treble, bass), and I started designing a tube amp for recording, that's what all those demo tracks are that I post. By this time there were a few guys selling boutique low power amps, and some guys selling kits. At this point I told everybody that would listen that for recording amps, ...this was "the future".
Here's the 1.5 watt prototype through a 12" 1971 Altec 417H 100W AlNiCo speaker:
Mics - 2 x SM82 Shure condensors, 18v battery phantom, about 1 foot and 1.5 feet in front of amp, aimed off center, recorded stereo. 1958 Fender Stratocaster w/MIJ '62 RI Left handed neck - Lace Sensor Gold Pickups.
(Volume knob backed off just a tiny bit on the guitar, "light touch" neck position pick up)
SPL - measured on B&K 2205 meter, slow setting, A weighted - 85 db/1meter
http://homepage.mac.com/ewald/.Music/section1.mp3
(Volume knob backed off just a tiny bit on the guitar, "moderate touch" middle position pick up)
SPL - measured on B&K 2205 meter, slow setting, A weighted - 95 db/1meter
http://homepage.mac.com/ewald/.Music/section10.mp3
(Full volume on guitar, "heavy touch" bridge position pick up)
SPL - measured on B&K 2205 meter, slow setting, A weighted - 100 db/1meter
http://homepage.mac.com/ewald/.Music/section3A.mp3
Between 2001 and 2002, my tech and I made 5 prototype amps, tweaking the design a bit at a time, eventually settling on 3 watts. The circuit ONLY consisted of: Two tubes, two transformers, two jacks, a handfull of resistors and capacitors, a chassis, one volume pot, one tone pot, and a couple of feet of wire. "less is more".
I wanted to drop the tone pot and volume pot and just have an on switch, ...I controlled everything from the guitar anyway, ...but my tech thought this was too simple, people wouldn't "get it".
I demo'd them to studios and music stores to guys who KNEW what tone was, everybody said, "I gotta' have one of these, how much?"
By 2002, my tech and I had both sunk some money into the project, had decided on a final design concept, and were set to do a "first run" of 25 amps, we had already sold all the prototypes.
We figured we could make these with quality parts for about $450 as basic amp heads, $600 - $1000 as a combo, depending on how "premium" the speaker was, the style of cabinet (basic was finished solid pine), and what features were desired. As a hand-built boutique amp, this was a bargain, our costs including our labour was about 60%, that's very lean wholesale margin, ...we planned to sell them direct only.
I had also put together a wholesale network that had me on the verge of setting up an online business selling tube amp parts, kits, and tubes. I had a line on JJ/Tesla tubes that would allow me to be able to beat anybodies price, anywhere. I had done all this from home while raising my daughter as a stay at home dad, ...from 6mo to 4 years old. At this point my ex decided to pull the plug on the marriage after becoming more and more abusive since I started this avenue of research and starting a business, ...I think she resented the bond that my daughter and I had because I was the stay at home parent, and she saw the idea of me being to work from home and spend more time with our daughter as she grew up, while her career choice had her doing the 9 to 5, ...as being unfair. Even though this is what we had planned from the start.
My business that was about a month away from starting, got put on hold, ...permanently, ...and we never built the 25 amps.
"The future" part deux.
By 2002 there were a bunch of hand built boutique low watt amps available from between .5 watts and 5 watts, the AX84 website (and others) had kits and tons of schematics from all the guys building their own. And a few of the big name companies had a few cheap mass-produced offerings...
A little "ancient history", ...
The first guitar amp ever was probably marketed by Stromberg in '28 - '29, it probably sucked. The first useable amps came out in the mid-30s, made by Gibson, Rickenbacker, National... in the early 40's Everett Hull started making Ampegs, ...by the end of the 46 Leo Fender was building amps and guitars under the "Fender" name, Hendrix was still a toddler, ...Clapton was still in diapers. Electricity was still fairly new, ...and was just beginning to spread beyond major cities in the US.
Aside from the early Gibson amps, which were popular by the 40's, Leo Fender using schematics from the Western Electric Radio Tube manual had been building amps with a Doc Kauffman (Rickenbacker) as "K&F", in '46 the first Fender amp, the "Deluxe 26" was born, ...10 watts, the Princeton, ...4 watts, the Professional - 18 watts.
Hmmm...
If you ever get a chance, listen to Derek and the Dominoes, "Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs" LP. It's a guitar masterpiece.
BTW.....
Eric Clapton and Duane Allman both used ONLY a 4 watt Tweed Fender Champ for every single electric guitar track on this double album, the song Layla alone has 16 tracks of Duane and Eric's guitars.
"Back to the Future"
By 2004 a few of the mainstream vendors started mass producing them, ....the one that caught my eye last year was the Epiphone Valve Junior amp head at $99USD. I was checking out the Peavey Delta Blues amps the other day and now it seems that Peavey is putting out a 5 watter too, ....Orange has one already, the AD5. The boutique choices are many, they caught this wave a few years before the "big name" guys did, ...but the "big name" guys know a viable market niche when they see one.
The price range is from $99 for mass produced with cheap componants, to about $1500 for hand built with the best materials and workmanship possible. What was old is new again.
Mass produced "Class A", single-ended 5 watt amps.
....Imagine that?
Hmmm...
I wonder if Fender is going to........... | |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 11:46:06 AM | I was just hunting around for a canadian Dealer for these Eppi amps ... no luck ! lol Looks like Yorkville sound has done some deal making with Gibson . I found 'em on musicians friend , but I hate ordering anything on line . ( Shipping, customs, duties etc.) Anyone know any music stores in Toronto carrying these Junior Heads ? Or .. anyone know of any Buffalo music stores carrying these things ?  | |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 12:27:00 PM | jackBknimble
my guess would be Long and mcquade
LATE
great sound clips
have you heard about when the peavey 5 watter is being released?
have you tried on yet? | |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 1:32:59 PM | Already out, ... the amp is called the NanoValve, it's a combo with an 8" speaker, I don't think there's a "head only" version yet. The $99 Epi is still the only mass produced one that I've seen.
So far I've only seen them advertised as a "starter pack", along with a Peavey "Raptor" (strat style), guitar. I would imagine you could find the amp "alone" on eBay if you looked.
At $359CDN, ....this is my new "beginner" reccomendation.
See: http://tinyurl.com/3a7kxw
It's great to see that beginners have the option to start off with a "real" amp and a decent guitar at that price. Basically it's a strat and a champ, ...at $360.
Hats off to Hartley!
I haven't tried the Peavey or the Epi, ...but, "less is more" , with that simple a circuit, what's to screw up?
great sound clips
added another @ 95db | |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 1:49:08 PM | | I saw the Nano's on the peavy site ..head only ... about $400 Cdn . Looks like a "rip" to me compared to the Epiphones. I'll call Steve's. thx | |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 2:31:18 PM | No, you can get the Nano COMBO, WITH a guitar for less than that in Canada, - Combo amp & Guitar for $359CDN, ...nobody sells at "MRSP".
DO you have a link for the "head only"?
No "rip" there.
Peavey makes another version with more features, a gain and tone knob as well as volume, Peavey Valve King Royal 8 for $218 CDN
The Epi is "head only" and the street price in Canada is probably about $140CDN, $99USD
The only sites I've seen with bothe the Peavey Nano and the Epi combo, ...the Peavey is cheaper.
Like I said, you can find small single-ended tube amps from $99USD up to $1500+
The Orange AD5 combo is much the same thing, probably around $1000CDN, ...not a "rip" just different quality componants and build.
The Epi is the starting point at that price, head only, the combo version is probably fairly close to the price of a Royal 8, ...one piece of advice, ...NEVER consider "price" as the be all end all for whether something is a "rip" or not.
The reason I like the Epi, is not just because of what it is, but because it's no problem voiding the warranty by modding it at that price, ...and at that price, I suspect that a lot of people are learning the basics of modding tube amps.
Learning the history of who the gear evolved is important too.
What IS really interesting about the idea of guitar amp design coming full circle (somewhat) back to it's roots; is the fact that at the birth of these amps, ...the design goals were based on "what existed". The designs that Leo Fender (and others) borrowed from the Western Electric manual, were FOR radio designs, ....basically what passed for the highest listening fidelity of its day.
Over the years as the priorty for listening applications was an evolution of these designs towards higher fidelity, and higher SPL. This continued in the '50s when high fidelity parted ways (somewhat) with the more industrial designs of musical instrument amplification, in the '60s with the advent of stereo, and the '70s with the advent of solid state (Ewwww...).
What's interesting is that, today the top of the line audio amplifiers are still powered by tubes, with the holy grail of audio tube amps being those with 300B "Western Electric" power tubes, ...which haven't changed in design since 1938.
http://www.antiqueradio.com/300B_01-98.html
Guitar amps never used 300Bs.
Leo designed amps around tubes that were used by the military (also, eventually used for fidelity, high fidelity, and audiophile amps), because of availability. The most commonly used power tube for Leo were the 6V6 in the late '40s, and most of the 50s, ....later the tube of choice for the higher power amps was the 6L6/5881, ...which were cheap and abundant because they were made in huge amounts for the aircraft of Strategic Air Command. Many of the improvements to tube design came by way of the B-52, .....not guitar amps or record players.
When Leo sold Fender to CBS in the mid '60s, ....the amp designs over time, ...became motivated by the WRONG priorities, ....CBS over the years took an approach more appropriate to listening designs rather than instrument "needs". In the 70s, they even rendered once sought after amp models almost useless by INCREASING headroom and amplifier efficiency, ...the adoption in the 70's of Ultra Linear output transformers had to be the worst of all the bad choices the bean counters (who weren't musicians) made at CBS/Fender.
Horrible piece of crap boat-anchors.
In essence, they followed the course of high-fidelity designers, becaus it was "progress". Almost all musicians got rid of there old stuff to buy the new stuff, ...because it was new. This was so widespread it's part of the old timer musician culture, ..."Let's not talk about it" regret.
Some guys, were wise enough to snap up the "has been" amps for a mere pittance, these "used old amps" they picked up for $50 or less in the '70s, have increased in value by 50X, ...and sometimes much more.
....I wonder why? (sarcasm)
But in the '70s one of the trends WAS necessary, more SPL, ...amps of 18 and 30 watts couldn't keep up with the vocal PAs that were getting more and more powerful for the arenas and stadiums, ...huge walls of guitar amps were needed to reach the seats in the back row, ....PA's were loud, but not enough to handle the job of pushing ALL the instruments.
Amps of 100, 200, and even 300+ watts were produced for this "stadium" application, ...where they operated at the edge of the performance envelope, giving up the crunch and chime of 2nd order harmonic overtone distortion .... at levels that cause permanent hearing loss.
Kids saw their heros use these amps and bought them by the boat load, ....very few had a venue to use them at the "edge of the envelope" though. So in the mid 70's, ...some marketing genius put a "master volume" on these big monsters, allowing users to run the preamps wide open clipped gain and into square wave clipping, while dialing back the "master volume" of the output stage, ....which was where the magic happened, or used to. (speaking of the magic of output stage saturation, ...look up Randy Bachman/Herzog/Garnet)
Battery powered distortion and and overdrive (solid state) foot pedals became ubiquitous as the need for overdriving the preamp gain stage in order to creat distortion became the standard practice. 'Cause not everybody played stadiums, ....d'uh.
By mid-1975, ....a guitar amp over 50 watts that DIDN'T have a "master volume" was rare.
It was a stupid band-aide solution to a misapplication in design that eventually became the SOP. Those wonderful studio recordings of the '70s, the ones with the breathtaking guitar tone, ...were still, ...more often than not, ....1950's Fender amps, '60s 30 watt Vox AC 30's, '60s 18 Watt Marshalls, etc.
The pre-amp gain overdrive method of getting guitar distortion was neat for some things, it masked clams (mistakes) because square-wave clipping makes things mushy, ...but there is no articulation of individual musical tones ('cause of the mush), ...and no "sweet spot" to play with (because the level of mush was now dependant on a knob, and not the fingers.)
The same trend continued into the 80s, and solid state guitar amps became more and more common because most of us guitar players are, ...frankly, ...kinda' stupid. And the whole concept of the "sweet spot" was unknown to most, ...who clamored for the, ...um, clamor of the "bees buzzing" sound of square wave clipping, most often accomplished in little tin boxes powered by 9 volt batteries.
(sigh)
Then the '90s came and digital modeling came into the picture, "sounds just like a real tube amp! ANY tube amp you want!" ....oh yeah,
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Posted: 2/19/2007 5:39:50 PM |
A rant about the future, and a little history, ...recent, and "ancient".In the 90s, digital modeling came into the picture........... "
I remember the trend very well and thought "how convenient it was, to pack under your arm, one small box that produced many amp and guitar sounds." i humped and grunt'D my big old tube stuff and cab/s instead and also put up with all the freak'n shocks i use to get from them as well.
I tried a bunch out, but, couldn’t find a medium or satisfying setting. i spent more time adjusting/tweaking the thing than playing.
I have enough troubles with my 60ish amps. buzzing ,popping, snapping and extremely loud. (like condenser mic aimed at a bowl of rice crispy)
Tthe only pedal i used was my vox wah and that added more noise to my problem. so i gave up.
I’m not as interested in the technology of amp modelling....it’s the combination of all the 60hz bullshit noise and all transformer taking into consideration, plus software basic understanding.
my ear prefers the natural tones/harmonics/saturation from the head running hot and speaker/cab configuration.
Currently i do use and have a couple of boss stomp boxes.....(all i can say is, "its not for me") i have it patched to a voodoo amp selector. it very very very seldom gets stomped !
I'm not a guitar tech , nor advanced such as you or "Guitarman" OR others that post here.....
i still have my old gear and an old SS baldwin amp....
with that, i acquired a 59/60 Hagstrom....
My old fender amps (also 5150 and a svt300 with 18" cerwin vega) and guitars are buzz crazy, out of control and one of these days, i will seek advice regarding the fixes.
I have with me a, 1965ish Leslie head. about all its good for is the organ or "paper weight" . i though it out and thinking it would make a cool guitar amp if i had the cab that came with the amp. after thinking it over, all cost consider, it would be cheaper to leave it the way it is and bring up my ontario gear.
i explored on the net "build your own amp kits" but, there is way more to , how to solder point to point.
i remember constructing my first electronic project in my late high school days. building a crystal "AM" radio is not like building a single driver and output tube amp.
and again.....
taking your advice or reading from your posting , i did purchase a 5 watt'r....and once again "in your own words, less is more"
This 5 watt head is unbelievable.
Again i give credit where credit is due.....(Late)
I’ve obtain killer sound from the vol/tone pot from my team J rg1570....
I am eager to have my old fenders and my fav "don lace start" sent to me.
I love this amp and 5 watts output to 4ohm 15" spk is "sweet" (also tested with 8 and 16 ohm spk)
The 15" spk is my sound for sure....the harder you hit the driver/output tube and using light touch to the strings, then hitting hard and harder , creates awesome punchy , grindy tones indeed.(pretty good, deep bass tones too)
Its dynamic, great spL for small room , tons to full-frequency swirl, what a great amp. (Less = More)
I too was a single father and had custody of my two daughters...
The difference between the mother and i had certainly caused us to grow apart, extreme north and extreme south, so to speak.
The thriving desire for my music and equipment had lots to do with the relationship. however my first love remained for my daughters and so on....(nothing new here, we all have one thing or another in common)
oh yes....i remember my parents very old console stereo combo....
As soon as my mom and dad went off camping for the weekend, i would pull the console from the wall and unclip the stylus head and connect jumpers to my guitar cord....hahahahhahaah
I cranked that old stereo up and rolled off on my guitar vol pot....it was sweet !
Cant say much for the stereo combo and what happened to it, after the fact.
It was all ,for the love of music....sighhhhh
Currently , i have 5 new guitars with me in BC plus another 8 in Ont. i'm also working on my acoustic set up too.
Tube Di , Shure condensors mics , Avalon pre amp to start the build.
5 of the 8 guitars in ontario are 25 plus years old and the same goes for my bassman and showman. the 5150 is ok....the svt300 about 1970/71
i have all my spk cab stored with the cone / frame facing down.
In BC i also use a mesa traiaxis....its ok....(1994)
its my multipurpose assorted amp sound. i’m not all that crazy about it. i do use it and recently purchased another midi controller for it...
However, the flavour of sound i get by amp layers is awesome and i do enjoy what i hear.
Sometimes i like to regard mesa as a fender.....???
Question....any advise on musical equipment insurance for shipping and ...... or storage ?
One thing for certain, i dont want to write on a way bill packing slip saying, it is...."antique fender euipment" , then what are the chances of that getting lost ?
again , i appreciate the info i read from this thread.... | |
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Posted: 2/19/2007 5:52:16 PM | Not really an answer to any questions, but my gear consists of:
Ibanez 7 String Universe, Ibanez RG 570, US Strat, 1997 LTD Takamine Santa Fe, 5 String Yamaha Bass, 1977 Hand made classical, Line 6 PodXT Live, Roland 1880 VS, Edirol USB 1010, Different recording SW, slew of djembes, boss pedals, tube screamer, Dunlop wah and volume, drum machine, recently sold my marshall JSM2000-DSL and cabinet and bought a Traynor 2.12 80W combo...Broke my heart selling my marshall, but cab would not fit in the truck of a little Civic..however the new amp works fine for now. | |
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Posted: 2/19/2007 7:44:49 PM | stay connected
WELCOME DUDE !!!
Danny
- the tri axis is a cool pre-amp if you use it for certain sounds only....
clean fender single coil tones,jazz tones and steve ray tones
it does not break up right for 5150 type tones or modded marshall tones
-put it in the green clean mode (first one),put a distortion/overdrive pedal infront of it 
for more metal tones or leads
insurance on your shipping,make lots of phone calls,ask lots of questions ,get it in writing | |
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Posted: 2/19/2007 10:20:40 PM | hey gman....
the tri axis is a good preamp....
i’ve finally got around to changing out the tubes...
the LEDs are starting to fail lately as well...
my first choice in mode selection is green....
the yellow is good to.
the red #1 and red #2 is pretty hefty...i have my own settings program in memory.
it works ok...
with the bradshaw type midi controller it's fantastic man....
i do have my ds1 as we once talked about....
in green mode with the ds1 its thin and i find it at times....my sound is muddy if i gain the bottom to much.....not to mention the spl vs: the size of my area is NOT good.
using a amp switcher helped out big time....that’s where i have it connected. its either on or off.
the 30 watt or 5 watt with some verb/delay is great just the way it is....
i would really like to get my hands on a space box....
it seems like, the more i age, my sound , feel/field changes too.
and not to forget, i want that tele you made too....LOL
i promised a couple of friends in your area that i’ll be there to visit them.
this incl. you as well....
you share your knowledge well gman
thanks dude and hope to see you soon ;) | |
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Posted: 2/21/2007 7:51:44 PM | danny deep
cool man, I would love to build a guitar for you,get one of my guitars out to the west coast
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Posted: 2/23/2007 12:42:05 PM | Hi I'm new here. 
- Gear -
Epiphone Les Paul Custom - rewired with switchcraft switch, CTS pots and orange drops
Kramer Focus 6000 - my 80's pointy workhorse that never dies. Original Floyd with Duncan distortion humbucker.
Dunlop Crybaby wah - changed a few components inside to make it more vocal, better sweep.
Yamaha DG-Stomp preamp - I love this thing, use it at home, practice, live. I go direct to PA with it....Sound guys love me. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2007 6:26:46 PM | LATE/amp guru guys
I took your advice about recording with small amps
they sound great , and have a great sweet spot
I have a gibson g-30 coming my way in a few weeks
it needs some work done on it.
I have a grounding question...
I have 2 small canadian built 1960's tube combos
(thorcraft cobra)
they sound great but have a nasty ground loop when you plug in any other gear inline with it that plugs in a.c
ie - Gt tube pre-amp etc
-littlelabs di for reamping
but works great with a battery powered pedal........no ground hum.....
are their any links that you know about to rewire these amps to play nice with other a.c. gear?? | |
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Posted: 2/24/2007 7:19:40 PM | I have a gibson g-30 coming my way in a few weeks it needs some work done on it.
GA-30, ...like a Tweed Deluxe, but with an 8" and 12" speakers - Jensen AlNiCo "R" series probably.
...if it hasn't been serviced recently, it probably needs a lot of work. Do you know what year it is?
As for the Canadian amps, do they have grounded AC? (And, ...ewwww, pedals?) | |
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Posted: 2/24/2007 9:14:03 PM | I actually am more interested just being able to use the thorcraft combo with my little labs reamper
(so not some much 'pedals' but kinda)
the canadian amps have no ground ....two prong
they need a 3 prong to work with other ac gear?
is there a link?
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Posted: 2/25/2007 12:16:23 AM | They need a grounded AC cord for just basic safety, ....remove the "death cap" while you're at it. This will eliminate hum too, but not necessarily ground loops.
My friend Miles O'Neil from Round Rock, Texas has a great tutorial for this:
http://www.netads.com/~meo/Guitar/Amps/Kalamazoo/Mods/safe.html#ground
http://www.netads.com/~meo/Guitar/Amps/Kalamazoo/Mods/R12-2to3Wire/ | |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 2:12:25 AM | thanks man that is a great tip,and a great tutorial
I will do that one for sure
turns out the gibson amp is a 'G-30 not a ga-30...............I think it is solidstate?
any knowledge on that model? | |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 2:45:12 AM | | OK.....I am ready....that's why I am here.....Well my name is Di and I sing in a band right now and I have been writing since the day I could speak probably....the last time I picked up a guitar was the day I decided that I couldn't play it upside down anymore or backwards for that matter....and I put it back down.....but at this point in my path I find myself craving to play my music and I need to get it out with my fingers as well as my voice....I don't ever wanna get off track again....I can't live without the beat of that drum or the bass that beats my heart and I need to learn how to sing to my own strings the right way now.....I am here looking for a muse, a mentor, and a teacher.... a lefty would be great....and close by would be even better...I'm in KW -and an electro - acoustic guitar is what I am gearing towards....but acoustic ultimately to learn the basics and get me writing the music to my words before I burst.....so can anyone help me out? | |
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| The guitar player's thread
Posted: 2/25/2007 10:29:51 AM | turns out the gibson amp is a 'G-30 not a ga-30...............I think it is solidstate?
any knowledge on that model?
Ahhh... I caught it on eBay, DUDE! - you paid way too much!
Oh, ...yup, it's "sand". ...It would probably make a cool platform for a homebrew AX84 type project.
See:
http://www.ax84.com/
http://ampage.org/htac/
I'm in KW -and an electro - acoustic guitar is what I am gearing towards.
Check out local music stores, and consider learning conventional (right-handed) guitar, after all, the left hand does most of the work when playing right-handed. You will also have exponentially more choices for instruments, and not have to settle for only "what's available". | |
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| The guitar player's thread
Posted: 2/25/2007 1:55:10 PM | Okay, I would like some recommendations.
I'm thinking it may be time to actually get a decent guitar. I've done a little online browsing, and one of the shops near me seems to carry a decent line of Fenders, Epiphones, Gibsons, and Yamahas ranging from $100 on up to $2K. A lot of the guitars that interest me seem to fall in the $300-$500 range, which by my budget is OK, although I could probably go up to $700-$800 if you twisted my arm and insisted on it.
So, for a not-much-better-than-beginner... brand? price? Stuff to consider? Stuff to avoid?
I'm looking to play mainly classic rock, electric blues, with a little hard rock/metal thrown in. Tom Petty, Stevie Ray, Hendrix, Skynyrd, that sort of thing.
And, even though my amp is servicable, I think eventually I may want to go with a tube (current one is probably solid state, and was dirt cheap to boot) - so, good brand for a beginner? I'm thinking tube over solid state, obviously. | |
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| The guitar player's thread
Posted: 2/25/2007 3:36:41 PM | Guitar:
Bang for buck - Yamaha Pacifica/Peavey
Tube amp:
Bang for buck - Epiphone/Peavey - both have inexpensive 30 watt combos.
Peavey Delta Blues 115
http://tinyurl.com/32unc2
Epiphone Blues Custom
http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=270&CollectionID=13
(Don't get anything that says "DSP")
Spend more $ on the amp than you do on the guitar. You should be able to get a giggable guitar and amp of decent quality for under $1K
YOu can half the amount if you go used, but if you don't know what to watch out for, you could be screwed..... | |
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| The guitar player's thread
Posted: 2/25/2007 4:30:44 PM | | I'm looking for a used Peavey Classic 50.....2x12 or 4x10, doesn't matter...... | |
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| The guitar player's thread
Posted: 2/25/2007 4:42:29 PM | Check local stores that take trade-ins, and sell used gear, and there's always eBay.
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