| Re: Michael Moore has it right Posted: 10/1/2004 7:51:26 AM | | i dont like moore he just plays on the subject over and over..so people see the sadness and try and make them feel something..without the points..like he did in bowling for columbine..im also mad at the fact that he got all the k-marts to stop selling ammunition..its such bullsh*t..in 9/11 they show this greiving mother..yes we know war is tragic..but he just wants you to feel her pain..without looking at the facts.. | |
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| Re: Michael Moore has it right Posted: 10/1/2004 9:07:51 AM | I remember when I had free tickets to see the General Motors bashing movie- Roger & Me back in the 80's and actually meeting Mr. Moore in the fron row (Man that guy is BIG).. I was a hard core republican then. I watched the movie with the roar of laughter of those all around me as I sat there thinking... "Well, if I was golfing at Grand Blanc's golf corse I would trea this weirdo the same way"... But later, much later I understood his sarcasism. He often makes an "in your face" type point, that is usally very out of context... and thats part of his style. In Roger & Me he was showing people that the rich people in the suburbs of Flint Michigan were not adversely effected by the recently (then) anounced hundreds of thusands of G.M. jobs that were devasting the economy of Flint. He showed how some were so out of touch with such an economic impact in their own front yard that all they had to worry about was who won the golf game. They were looking at dividends and tax rates, not at the people that made up the bulk of their own community.
So, in 911 M&M carried on with his style an applied it to the president. Who can blame him? In his movie he shows a clip where Bush yelled at him in public: "Go find REAL work!!!" - Sort, of like ole Morre was pushed into making this thing to me. | |
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| Re: Michael Moore has it right Posted: 10/1/2004 10:56:11 AM | | moore just doesn't protray a viable theory in his movies. Like in bowling for columbine. The movie put the blame of the columbine tradgity on americas love of guns. I put the blame on the socialogical make up of our society as it effects our children and these two idiots who did it. equal parts. | |
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| Re: Michael Moore has it right Posted: 10/1/2004 11:26:12 AM | | I think ALL/EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM of our modern politicians, most businessmen, and Moore are birds of a feather--they have more Spielberg-esque characteristics in COMMON than they have differentiating view points. They are little Alexander the Greats with delusions of god-hood. They all want IRS and Federal Reserve money linked or made STANDARD by NOTHING of real value for their own selfish gain and for the END GAME of CONTROLLING and PROFITING from all BUYING and SELLING. They even license your name ! BIOLOGICAL DNA ORIGIN notwithstanding. Who of you SUPPOSEDLY men with LIBERTY may even as little as IDENTIFY yourself these days to any of the aforementioned without a license ? PAPERS CITIZEN !!! WHERE ARE YOUR PAPERS ! Their own perverse, but different, social engineering schemes share the desire to manipulate individual LIBERTY which is endowed by the CREATOR and not legislated, executed, judged, or merchandised by the Republic. It very soon will be for most. | |
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| Re: Michael Moore has it right Posted: 10/1/2004 4:11:19 PM | Sure he has viable theories. It's called for the love of money. If a buck can be made at the expense of others, well you should be able to understand the motive in 911. Wars create jobs. Defense companies hold power yet without all that goverment tax based funding they are powerless... and they always need war to stay in the money.
Most importantly one cant stay a SuperHereo without a Velon! Personal grudges are great war starters, and I find it a little odd about all that money from the ben laden family being invested into dry oil wells in Texas just happen to involve the same guy that became president later on. Follow the money and friends of Bush's past and you have a viable theory as to what 911 was all about. - Sorta like the angry ex lover that might smash a woman's car windows on the news of her job promotion. It's not so hard to figure. | |
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| Re: Michael Moore has it right Posted: 10/1/2004 4:41:11 PM | | Jammer, the HILARIOUS part of all this is (speaking from the stand point of a former Fort Knox Gold Vault Tank Commander) the MONEY talked about is not worth anything REAL. It is a game we all play ! LOL Like you said, sometimes the GAME TURN ends with dry oil wells and some times it ends with a lady jumping from a burning tower and exploding on the pavement like a bug on a car windshield. It's all just a game, bro. Some Lock'n'Load and some profit and some die and some are spectators and some just smile at it uselessness of it all. :-) | |
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| Re: Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/12/2004 9:57:23 AM | He has gone from making less than $15,000 to being a millionare based on the opinions that millions of others agree with.
A very smart man to focus on the opinions that the rest of us share. | |
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| Re: Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/12/2004 9:59:25 AM | | This mostly boils down to politics. Most of the ones that call Mr. Moore names are Bush supporters that are afraid to watch the movie due to their own fears of knowing the truth. | |
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| Re: Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/12/2004 1:47:23 PM | stupid movie. mike is a idiot.
Any one with common sense and knowledge on the subject can see that moore is a moron ;| | |
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| Re: Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/17/2004 8:50:52 AM | In every educational setting I've ever been in where you are making an argument for a contriversial subject you are taught to look at both sides. While Micheal Moore supporters are forced on a daily basis to see the effects of the bush administration. Bush supporters are able to decide for themselves whether they want to see his movies or read his books. Whether you agree with Mr. Moore or not you have to support free speech it is the basis for this country's last standing freedom. If anyone here has ever read his book "Dude wheres my country?" They would not question Micheal Moore's patriotism. As he describes his feeling of 9/11 and where he was and how he has felt not just politically but emotionally since that day is completly "American" As for the point that it wasn't Bush's fault that the bin laden families were shipped out of here without a question or second thought, that is bs. We elected Bush (k well I didn't vote for him but. . . ) to hold our best intrest at heart & to hire officials to do the same. The first rule of leadership is no matter what it is his fault. To try and tell me he sat there and knew nothing of what his administration was doing not only is a lie but that scares me even more. Bush is riding the coattails of his father and did nothing to earn a spot in the White House. He is blurring the line of seperation of church and state and as a country that boasts religious, political and general freedom that is unfair and biased. Not every American believes in God but that makes them no less American. Micheal Moore has just stated what many Bush naysayers have been muttering and whispering since the beginning of his term. He just had the nerve to say it outloud. He didn't ask anyone that didn't want to, to see his movies or buy his books or watch his shows. He brings politics in the open and says what everyone who supports him feels. And since when do we NOT badmouth politicians. | |
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| Re: Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/17/2004 9:06:45 AM | | Mr. Moore manipulates his documentries, mixes the clips around so it looks like it points to one thing.. changing the truth.. making up these facts that dont even exist.. freedom of speech or not.. isnt this considered slander? i saw 9/11 and it didnt decide for me, who im gonna vote for.. | |
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| Re: Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/17/2004 6:17:21 PM | If Mr. Moore had of just made up this stuff (slander) then I would think any lawer would have an easy case. Facts are: There is NO lawsuit against Mr. Moore about this movie yet!
Now, if all these LIES are so obvious, and if it's truly "slander" how come nobody has taken him to court over the issue yet?
#1: Perhaps all the attention being focused in such a court case would wake up more people to the truth. #2:But, I feel it's more likely that there simply is NO case of slander in the movie, and they realize they cant win. If a lawsuit was LOSSED it would legaly clear his name and it would show Mr. Moore indeed had his facts straight in this movie. | |
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| Re: Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/23/2004 11:04:56 PM | | Update: M&M has advised on his site that he is giving away free video rentals of his movie in slected video rental stores that are interested. | |
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| Re: Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/25/2004 9:12:35 PM | FUNNY HE IS NOT BEING SUED FOR SLANDER/LIES.................MAYBE BECAUSE, SOME/MOST OF IT IS TRUE
AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE A CASE AGAINST HIM. | |
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| Re: Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/25/2004 9:43:01 PM | Just next to the A there's a caps lock button. Use it.
As for the movie Fahrenheit 911.... in my opinion, there is absolutely no doubt that it is a biased piece of sh*t. Don't get me wrong, i think there are plenty of legitimate reasons to disagree with Bush or the war on terror, but regurgitating twisted truths and outright lies from Michael Moore's movies doesn't say much for anyone's intelligence here.
If you want to see proof of what i am saying laid out very neatly and logically infront of you, watch the movie "FahrenHYPE 911". This also is no doubt biased, but each comes across in it's own right as being the COMPLETE TRUTH. How can this be? Completely contrasting opinions, and at face value, they both seem above board.
The final answer is that the truth of it all lies somewhere between the two, and brainlessly spouting lines from a "documentary" from the likes of Michael Moore isn't giving you the credit you deserve. Make an ACTUAL effort (not just watch a movie), get ALL the information and make your own d*mn mind up. | |
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| Re: Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/26/2004 12:09:52 AM | I have watched both... hrm, did that backfire? ;)
But seriously, that was my whole point. Watch both and you can see how neither can be the complete truth. | |
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| Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/28/2004 11:42:22 AM | Mr Moore will not be sued,because his movie is considered Folk Art...(-;
However some of what he is suggesting IS TRUE,The Busch Cartel were behind 911 100%,Busch even sined the orders to comence the opperation,for which Busch is being Sued by the families of the victems of The World Trade Center...(-;
It would seem to me that modt of you people NEVER READ INTERNET NEWS in stead your quite happy to be brane washed by your boob tubes...*J*
I stopped watching TV shortly after 911,and I never took my eye's off the ball,I have read every investigation of 911 that has ever been cunducted and all but one count the United States Government and The Busch Cartel as the only people on planet earth that could have pull 911 off...*J*
The Film that Mr Moore has produced is Jaded toward Isreal,we must remember that The Jews own Hollywood,but other than that the film is just TV NESW hacked and spliced together...*J*  | |
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| Anyone going to Fahrenheit 9/11? Posted: 10/29/2004 6:49:34 AM | | For someone that has read so deeply into the matter, perhaps you should have noticed that it is "Bush" not "Busch". *rolls eyes* | |
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