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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 5/6/2007 10:46:24 PM | You have to love a world where some people just want to live their lives and others are so eager to tell them they can't, or that they're worthless. Being a member of this planet, I've ran into more than my share of negativity from people who are quick to judge, but luckily on this site, most of the time the people who message me are super nice and only very rarely they are not.
Not long ago I was called a freak on this site by a guy. Turns out I knew him years ago. I took the high road and said that I probably was a freak back when he knew me. I wasn't comfortable in life and it showed. I said I felt better these days, and that if he wanted to forgive and forget that it would be much nicer to reconnect with someone I once knew than leave it with him insulting me.
He wrote back and reiterated that I was a freak. I apologized if I had offended him, and that was about it. It is for the best I'm sure because I could tell we'd never see eye-to-eye. I guess I just think of myself as a regular woman, but he saw a freak. It's a funny word freak, it can fit most anything. Like I said earlier, most people on plenty of fish chat with civility and a live-and-let-live belief, but a few believe in going out of their way to insult and judge people who are different. When I consider the two groups of people, it is clear to me which really represents the oddballs that are unique in a displeasing way. | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 6/5/2007 12:22:01 AM | | I am sure no transsexuals want to date a bigot like you either. Hey, guess what? if you don't want to date a transsexual, a simple no is okay, you don't have to be a big freaking jerk about it. | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 6/10/2007 1:28:57 PM | "Plus, if you are that f***ed up to have your body mutilated you have a serious mental problem....."
And all the women getting breast implants, facial implants, butt implants, nose jobs, and all the rest of that sh*t is so acceptable in our society?? That's not body mutilation? Just because it's more "socially acceptable" doesn't mean those people aren't equally, if not more , f**ked up?? How about regular men getting pec implants? Or Pen!s surgery??? How stupid. | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 6/13/2007 8:36:18 AM | MSG 129 I wouldnt mix let alone date a individual with this problem. they need a spell in the mental health side of nurseing.but to call a person a freaking jerk because somebody has different views to you, your narrow minded ,pot calling the kettle black I think.perhaps my use of the black you probally think I am racist as well as a bigot,so funny, unbelievible.  | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 6/18/2007 8:34:39 AM |
would date one..but like the ones that looked feminine haha There's some very passable transgendered people that have the femme voice and mannerisms and boobs and everything..you wouldn't know they weren't females til you took their pants off :)
Exactly..I would date a transsexual, a lot of times they are prettier than regular women. | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 7/10/2007 11:08:31 PM | You expect people to nice to you when you think putting transsexuals in a mental hosptial is a solution to their problems? Guess what, it has been tried and failed before, your willful ignorance is mindblowing, you are a jerk. But if you can't take the heat, than stay out of the kitchen, buddy.
In this day and age, with access to the internet, there is no excuse to not know about transsexualism. But if you dont know anything about it, than at least have the denceny to stay out of discussion relating to transgendersim. If you *are* going to talk crap about something you don't know of, I am going to call you on it, i absolutely will. | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 7/10/2007 11:48:39 PM | | It never ceases to amaze me, the bigoted ramblings of the unwashed masses. So, you don't have a desire to date a transgendered person...here's an idea...don't date one. Granted, it's not my thing. I like girl parts. But, if someone wants to go ahead and date/have a relationship/be seriously involved with someone who is intersexed, that's their choice. You don't have to like it, you don't have to agree with it, and you don't have to do it yourself. But keep your stupid, jerk-off opinions to yourself. No one cares that you're an evil bigot. | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 7/11/2007 12:16:30 AM | Hi all, I am shocked, saddened and amazed at the amount of redneck bigots that are in this word. Esp those that have posted there uneducated comments in this thread. To begin with a M2 F transsexual is a Woman. A F2M transsexual is a man. They always have been either female(M2F) or male(F2M) and required affirmation surgery to correct the incompatibility with there body. Referring to them as him/her, he/she only make them feel worse about them selves and their situation and again show how uneducated people are. I know of a few transsexual women that would turn the head of almost every straight male they walk past. They are stunning to say the least.
Would I date a transsexual woman. Never been approached, so I can't say. But then I'm not trans phobic so maybe. There are a lot of genetic women I wouldn't date in this or any life time. But I'm sure there are lots who wouldn't date me either!
So if you must post how about being educated on the topic or better yet how about not posting at all unless you actually have something constructive and intelligent to say.
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 9/20/2007 8:04:39 PM | | Don't take idiots personally, Michelle. Its the same mentality that fifty years ago wanted to hang black people and gas people for being Jewish. | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 2/12/2008 12:29:01 AM | | They say it's only gay if balls touch, but this is different. You have to go by what they were born as. If he was born with a ding-bat, he's a he, if not, a she, surgery or not. If you have sex with a guy in a dress you're gay. | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 2/19/2008 1:50:21 AM | Your physical sex does not make you a man or a woman (that is medically proven). Whether you are a man or a woman it is part of the innate sense of self. Fortunately, most people don't have to worry whether the physical self and innate self are aligned. Transsexuals wouldn't if society wasn't so hung up about it.
Transsexuality isn't a mental illness, it's a state of mind that you can label as an illness if you need to. If your life can be dramatically improved by a surgical procedure, why wouldn't you undergo that procedure.
Transsexuals get plenty of bad press and are often confused with transvestites. So, from the age of four, they have to cope with the mental and emotional abuse dished out to them by an ignorant society. This causes the majority of mental health issues suffered by transsexuals. Those that can come through the journey to live well adjusted lives are more than likely to be very strong, compassionate, gentle and caring people.
For those that see transsexuals as freaks or oddballs I wonder how many have ever got to know someone as a friend or as a person. We are only the same as everyone else with the need to be loved and cared for and if people could go beyond the 'detail' of genitalia they could find a very warm, loving and giving person.
I think I have a lot to offer in a relationship with a guy, physically and emotionally. Unfortunately, so many guys are blinkered by the physical aspects of a relationship that they can't begin to see the person beyond their sexuality. If your need is for an object of sexual satisfaction then no doubt you will have a definite idea of your physical requirements. That's ok, I hope you find what you are looking for. Those with a more rounded approach to a relationship I ask them to open your eyes to the possiblity of a fulfilling relationship. | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 4/2/2008 6:18:02 PM | Oh lord... This thread is so full of FAIL that it should be flushed.
All the holier than thou moralfags in this thread need to be shipped off to some middle-eastern country where they can sit around with other like-minded a-holes and talk about how the world would be so much better if only everyone else in the would be the way they want them to be.
To the guy that started this suck-fest:
Who the hell cares about f*ckn labels anyway? If you like someone, you like them. If it feels right to you, then do it. Stop being a wimp - what others think is none of your damn business. If you aren't man enough to be with someone you like then you deserve to be alone the rest of your life.
To upforadventure:
Picture me laughing at your need to label and judge everything into the ground when you are complaining to your therapist about how unhappy your life turned out to be. | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 7/22/2008 1:29:12 PM | It's quite interesting to read the different opinions on this thread. I think what stands out to me the most is: A) Some are saying now they've seen it all B) Some are saying that transwomen are men and transmen are women C) Some people actually think they're allowed to dictate and declare what gender another person is D) Some people think they actually would know if someone was a transsexual when most of the time that is a total myth. E) Some people aren't realizing just how serious gender reassignment is. How it is certainly not a choice. For many, the alternative is suicide.
It's not about thinking you're a boy or girl. It's about knowing.
It's not that a transwoman or transman are confused about thier gender....It's more like theyre NOT confused and they KNOW who they are and that is WHY theyre transitioning.....they're taking a much more courageous step towards being themselves than any biological born male or female who is ok with thier birth gender ever had to go through to just be themselves.
Trans people go through excuciating surgeries, years of discrimination, thier families turn thier backs on them, go through painful hormonal changes (For the transmen anyways that part can be incredibly painful), they go through all kinds of counseling, sometimes having to spend thousands and thousands of dollars and have also made the commitment to take hormones for the rest of thier lives....whether it's an injection, a pill, a patch, or a gel.
What I think is the absolute worst though, is for them to go through that kind of journey, stand there much stronger than most people you would ever meet, and have to listen to some ignorant, uneducated, egotistical bigot tell them theyre not good enough or that everything theyve worked so hard for and gone through so much for isnt valid.
Right there it shows that the weaker person is the one who doesnt want to take the time to open thier eyes to see the crap transpeople have to go through....and I'll bet those ignorant people are somewhere along the lines contradicting themselves by claiming thier right to be who they are and be accepted. | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 7/22/2008 3:39:30 PM | So you spent thousands of bucks to look like a woman? Michael Jackson spend a lot more thousands to look white. Is he white? No, he isn't.
Will you ever be seen as a woman? Only by a small minority. Most others will only see a guy dressed as a woman. Sorry, life is tough. Most people can't get everything they want anyway. Does it mean most guys won't date you? Well, they certainly have the right to choose who to date, don't you think?
So your life is hard? Excuse me but SO WHAT? Nobody owes you to make your life easier, and those "you don't know how much I suffer" cries only reflect poorly on you.
So the world looks at you as if you were something weird? Well, hot news: Anything very out of the norm IS weird. You're out of the norm. Get my drift? Now, it doesn't mean it's good or bad. It means it's out of the norm. THAT'S ALL.
Besides, you can't dictate how others should see you. Moreover, do you really think that all those "you're a bigot", "you're an ignorant" cries will make others see you as a woman? At most, you will be seen just as another the-world-owes-me moron.
You may think you're a woman. Ok, more power to you. Others don't have the right to tell you what to think or how to act. What makes you think you do? | |
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| Dating a Transsexual / Transgender Person Posted: 7/23/2008 10:43:01 AM | Honestly I started dress-up with my oldest sister sometime around the age of 7-8? and loved it. Later on around age 13 when our folks were gone for a long weekend or something she would dress me up and we would go to the movies and meet boys together. I was really quite comfortable in a skirt or shorts, halter top and sandals. The only time I was uncomfortable was in school dressed as a boy. In my freshman year of high school an older man saw me out with my sister and her friends (in drag) and approached me for a date. He was in his 20's but I saw no harm. The summer of my junior year at age 16, I moved in with him. We lived together for 4 wonderful years. He was drafted and later killed in combat. A straight friend of his over 20 years my senior took care of me for a while, and some years later we married in a Gay Chapel in Las Vegas. When we went out, I dressed straight for straight or purely gay activities and Femme for any thing else. Bare in mind this man was straight . . .Maybe a little Bi . . . we were married for 25 years . . . he passed away in 2002. It was 25 years of pure love, togetherness and sexual bliss. | |
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