| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/18/2005 8:13:17 AM | ^^ good points..
BTW, did you think "Tianenmen" was cool?
too many 'students' anyway, machine-gunning a few thousand of them doesn't matter..
we can overlook little things like that when dealing with such a large market and the potential to make $$$$$$$ , right?? :)
Ah, yea, China's "cool"; we could make a big to-do about boycotting S. Africa over apartheid becase it was a small market and wouldn't/didn't cost much $$ anyway..
symbolic, though, made us feel good & holier-than-thou, no??
Money does tend to TRUMP principles, doesn't it?? | |
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| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/18/2005 8:34:31 AM |
BTW, did you think "Tianenmen" was cool?
I was there. I later wrote a rather nasty story for the wire service I worked for about the whole incident. The students were naive. Angry but, naive... BTW my first trip to China was during the Gang of Four Era. Seeing executions in the street can be a real eyeopener for a teenaged kid.
we could make a big to-do about boycotting S. Africa over apartheid
Big difference, the S African Government had a Tiannamen Square sized incident on a weekly basis. The Chinese Government has a notoriously heavy hand but not on that scale. Note also, I'm not exonerating the PRC Oligarchy from any crimes they have committed. | |
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| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/18/2005 8:41:57 AM | ^^^
@ dapi_editor:
Big difference, the S African Government had a Tiannamen Square sized incident on a weekly basis.
"On a weekly basis" ? 52 X per year? "Tianenemen Square-sized" ??
methinks you are prone to exaggeration, sir..
There was the Sharpsville incident in March, 1960..very bad, I agree..
that was 72 deaths, not thousands..
weekly? do you have any documentation of this 'fact' ?
Let us not forget that the Ohio National Guard also murdered students at Kent State U in 1970, probably with high-level approval..
When students at Jackson State U in Jackson, Mississippi, protested those killings..police responded by opening fire, killing and wounding several more students.. | |
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| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/18/2005 9:27:16 AM | ^^
@ dapi_editor:
BTW, what do you think of Quebecois racist bigots?
Do you feel it is more "acceptable" for them, because they are "protecting their culture and language" ?
Sounds like the argument Milosevic would make about his "ethnic cleansing" program in the former Yugoslavia..or the one the nazis made at Nuremberg.. | |
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| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/18/2005 10:02:52 AM | Yes, I did exaggerate. I apologize for the unneccessary theatrics.
But to the point the PRC's policies and the former apartheid government of South Africa's policies were very different.
A lot of the violence in S Africa was never actually reported. Sharpesville was but one of many incidents. The government had a policy of brutal repression, it was a policy carried out over a long period and escalated over the years. Add to this the chronic unemployment, lack of educational opportunities and security the Black African faced, it's no surprise that there was unrest.
Tiannamen harked back to the days of the Great Leap and the Gang of Four but, I think it was an abberation. The Chinese Government knows that they are on very shaky ground. Remember that the first troops sent to quell the riot refused to fire upon the crowd. Special cadres of soldiers had to be sent in to do the deed. Afterwards, the Party replaced everyone involved moderate and hardliner alike and are hoping like hell that this will not happen again.
Concerning Kent State, I don't really remember that incident well. We were preparing for my Dad's assignment to Spain. That I remember quite well. | |
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| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/18/2005 10:30:34 AM | Big UGH!!..here we go again, i felt so sickened after the last on june 28/04 when Harper lost to the liberal fools!!!..i do not get how canadiens are so utterly daft choosing such jackasses!!. Nothing like gomery would have happened..yet..so many liberals remain..it's almost like the masses like being beat like an abused partner in a relationship..if Harp loses this time and drops out i'm out of the poltical field forever,Harp is the only salvation of my Canaduh
What does any of this have to do with the Gunk report..nothing..it need'nt ever have happened with asses in office to begin with..remember the "Promise" of "GST wiped out"?..first dam clue of diss-appointments to follow!!...and to add..just the fact that the dam libs will not allow a feb vote just to screw with an already rushed December of appointments/holiday engagements shows a-hole mentallity that will not change any further...my two pennies | |
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| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/18/2005 10:44:37 AM | ^^^
Probably about as much chance as any party other than the LDP had in Japan up til 1990 or so?
Let's face it, Canada is destined to become a one-party state..
Well, hey it worked for the USSR and the PRC and the GDR and many others for a long time.. | |
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| Sheila Copps for PM!!
Posted: 11/18/2005 1:18:57 PM | | My Dad knew her Dad. She studied Politics 101 from the Mayor of Hamilton and Lincoln Alexander. | |
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| Sheila Copps for PM!!
Posted: 11/18/2005 4:54:39 PM | ^^^^^^^^^
@dapi_editor:
She studied Politics 101 from the Mayor of Hamilton and Lincoln Alexander.
you mean, the Mayor of Hamilton, Vic Copps (her father) ? :) | |
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| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/18/2005 11:10:26 PM | | The trouble really is Canadian parliment has become a trinary affair Lib, crap, and block, well 4 if you include the ndp, but they are a distant 4th. Look even now the polls say we are headed for another minority, it is all about who is going to have to get in bed with the ndp, which is hilarious really. The block has acheived its goal, Canadian parlimentry schizephrenia. | |
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| Sheila Copps for PM!!
Posted: 11/18/2005 11:18:33 PM | I REMEMBER BACK WHEN SHIELA WAS DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER EVERY NIGHT I WOULD KNEEL
DOWN BESIDE MY BED AND CLASP MY HANDS TOGETHER AND SERIOUSLY SAY "PLEASE LORD
DON'T TAKE HIM YET!!!"
I OFTEN WONDER HOW SHE WOULD GO OVER AS THE LIBERAL CANDIDATE FOR THE TOWN OF
BANFF.
IF I EVER HAVE THE RARE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING ANOTHER EX-WIFE I HOPE THAT HER
NAME IS SHIELA OR BELINDA THAT WOULD BE NICE TOO. | |
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| Sheila Copps for PM!!
Posted: 11/20/2005 11:09:38 PM | simplesailor
maybe you should forget these ladies and get a date with sailormoon | |
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| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/21/2005 3:48:49 AM |
so given the Gomery report exonerates paul martin, and there are, to me, no other choices....better the devil you know than the devil you are afraid of.....
The same Paul Martin, who was Finance Minister at the time found NOT guilty..Incredible..
If this were the USA, he would have been thrown out of office by now.
Remember, "O.J." was also found 'Not Guilty'...*AHEM* | |
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| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/21/2005 3:55:56 AM | ^^^^^^^
@ canadian Romantic:
The same Paul Martin, who was Finance Minister at the time found NOT guilty..Incredible..
If this were the USA, he would have been thrown out of office by now.
Remember, "O.J." was also found 'Not Guilty'...*AHEM*
Yes, and like OJ, Martin is "determined to find the "real" culprits..."
LMFAO!!!! what a joke!! :)
Neither of these guys has a mirror anywhere in their homes, I guess...?? ;) | |
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| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/21/2005 4:15:07 AM | Neither of these guys has a mirror anywhere in their homes, I guess...?? ;)
Actually, they DO, but, they are tinted..VERY darkly....
This brings to mind, the old fable: "The Emporer's New Clothes".
Yes, and like OJ, Martin is "determined to find the "real" culprits..."
Yes, what better way to TRY and throw suspiscions, than to point the finger ANYwhere else but at one's self. | |
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| Gomery report is out & exonerates Paul Martin....your thoughts?
Posted: 11/21/2005 4:24:20 AM | The problem with fingerpointing politicians is nothing new. It's an old game used to fool the media sharks when the politicians have mistakenly chummed the waters and then found out the sacrificial victim has made it to safety.
But, the use of mirrors? I thought they only used them for the old mirror on the wall routine.
"Mirror mirror on the wall Who are the most gullible voters of them all?" | |
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