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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music
Posted: 11/13/2005 3:01:44 PM | | Classical Music is my comfort blanket,,, I had a job where I chose from huge catalogues what the Radio Station needed, ve4ry cool. At the moment I'm stuck on 20th century, Gorecki, Prokofiev, Reich, Adams, Murphy, Mosetich, Bartok, older Glass, Tavener and then some Tallis and Monteverdi. Spem in Alium by Tallis circa 1500, is a near orgasm, I think he was on shrooms when he wrote it, if you want a good version don't go for the Tallis Sholars, can't dig it out at the moment. Modern; John Taveners Total Eclipse is interesting and a really good stereo is needed. Which reminds me; ever since CD came about, the digital reading to play quality of even a pricey stereo SUCKS,,, nothing like analog. Shtit, I wish British Columbia Forums were a bit more high brow. | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music
Posted: 11/13/2005 8:08:52 PM | The "Gesang der Juenglinge" (1955/56) by Karlheinz Stockhausen ... used in the 2001 Space Odyssey. I have one of the original LP's where the score calls for five groups of loudspeakers to be set up surrounding the audience. I got it back in 1967 when it was required listening for a Music Appreciation course I was taking in college at the time. The younger generation might know it better as "Also Sprach Zarathustra".
I now have the proper number of speakers to listen to it. It's amazing how you can hear the sounds jumping through the speakers and spinning around you. | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/14/2005 11:07:28 AM |
Man darf wohl annehmen dass Sie haben auch mitgemacht ... schade
sure, but it's not a issue. there was no racistical disscusion. just one reference. finaly ppl get understanding and found peace. there was no reason to delete page. in the place where 90% visitors with red colored necks not very often happen talk about classical art. | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music
Posted: 11/15/2005 2:00:59 PM | I enjoy classical..relaxing, lets your imagination ride
But nobody specific tho, my favs are Ride of the valkyries by Wagner
and theres one by Bach that I really like but i dont remember the name of it. | |
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| Classical, as in music from 1700-1800, or Classical as in Music that isn't "pop"?
Posted: 11/15/2005 5:25:25 PM | As far as "classical" music goes... I appreciate the era quite a bit, ... But, personally, my appreciation of the masters centers more around the impressionistic era Debussy painted into life after hearing the gamelan orchestra of the Paris world fair (when the Eiffel tower was brought to the world...)
Nothing beats hearing the motific arrangement of Brahms' chamber music, or the raw sculpted passion expressed in a Rachmaninoff piano concerto! (I just recently saw Andre Watts perform the Rach 3 with the OKC philharmonic... and it blew me away!!!) Anyone who can block out the power chords and riffs Rach lays out in his work in perfect time in a flawless manner is truly a master!!!
However, I'd like to pose a more focused question... Does anyone out there like "American" classical music? There are many in the world who would pose that an American sound doesn't truly exist in the classical realm... Sure, we have the blues... And, Gershwin did some great work in the 20s with Porgy n. Bess, Rhapsody in blue etc... Also, America, being the land of ideas, spawned musical theatre, highlighted by the works of say, Bernstein and his West Side Story... But, what about the unnoticed american greats such as Amy Beach? It seems to me, that for every John Cage America spits out, with his 4' 33" there are at least three "undiscovered" names producing, or who have produced true masterpieces...
Other great american composers: Scott Joplin, Miles Davis(OK... he leans towards Jazz... buttt.....) Aaron Copland, Samuel Barber, William Grant Still, John Williams (Star Wars anyone?), John Adams, Phillip Glass, Schoenberg? (not native born, but an immgrant), Milton Babbit, and the list goes on......... | |
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| Classical, as in music from 1700-1800, or Classical as in Music that isn't pop?
Posted: 11/15/2005 8:34:29 PM |
Porgy n. Bess, Rhapsody in blue... West Side Story... Scott Joplin, Miles Davis... John Williams (Star Wars... and the list goes on.... "American" classical music
it's some kind of joke?
by the way: "and the list goes on......... there probably should be jimmy hendrix, nirvana, elvis presley, metallica and door?
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/15/2005 9:59:28 PM | @ Very Different
Best if you do your homework before making generalized statements.
Moderators are Bible Thumpers too it appears.
Of all the MODERATORS' Profiles I looked at, ALL ARE "NON-RELIGIOUS" except one who had "New Age" filled in.
Staying on topic here:
"Does anyone else (at your house) appreciate Classical music? OR did you just come here to make your comment and then slither away? | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/16/2005 6:07:38 AM | | Sonicus....you brought up schoenberg....does anyone really enjoy listening to his music? I appreciate the architecture and the forms but to just listen...YIKES... I use Pierrot Lunairre to scare small children on Halloween! LOL | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/16/2005 11:41:43 AM | I think Brahms was super sweet!He was one of the first to study some of the older composers works and it was reflected in his music:)Purcell and Corelli are pretty amazing in my opinion as well.Noones music will ever capture my heart like Mozarts though.Im not a huge fan of opera ,but Don Giovanni (his most famous)and Die Zauberflotte(Mozarts last opera)were pretty cool.Mozarts genius was found in his imperfect perfection.If youre a fan of his music,and not only listen from a technical but also an emotional standpoint then you know exactly what I mean.The only composer I never cared for is Wagner.His music has never done anything for me | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/16/2005 4:10:54 PM |
I never cared for is Wagner.His music has never done anything for me
i think it depend on your personality. the music of composers like brahms, vivaldi, tchaikovsky, dvorak, mozart very much melodical/romantical and acceptible for way wider audience than complication of prokofviev or wagner.
but if you can appreciate classical romantism, someday you'll listen and understand masterpieces which you reject today. it just need a time :) | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/16/2005 5:56:43 PM | | Its from another thread,,, just noticed that trash writing can go on no problem,, anyways that was a Time & Place situation and I was miffed at that Time & Place. | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/16/2005 5:59:22 PM | | I slithered in and wrote down my Classical bits of Love,,,,,,,,, Also the Zarathustra is Strauss, in 2001 space odyssey it was morphed with something else,,,,,,,,,, slithering away now, bye! | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/16/2005 7:58:27 PM | ^^^^^^Thanks for that information ... don't know where it came from ... don't care. I got my information straight off of the album and looked it up on the Internet too.
Then again, it's possible I put that post in like that on purpose so you could come back and make a "smart" remark about it.
anyways that was a Time & Place situation and I was miffed at that Time & Place.
Well could you leave us out of it? Hmmm ... Some folks don't feel good about themselves unless they can go into the threads and find fault with others.
There there .... Feel better now?
Ahhh ... that's what I thought your response would be!
vvvvvv ... (the true spirit comes to the surface!) | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/16/2005 8:45:45 PM | "Sonicus....you brought up schoenberg....does anyone really enjoy listening to his music? I appreciate the architecture and the forms but to just listen...YIKES..."
I've got to agree. I find it interesting from an academic perspective, but I hardly ever think, wow I'm really in the mood to groove to some Schoenberg.
I've got to say that it's amazing to me that even a thread as seemingly innocuous as "does anyone else appreciate classical music" has twice now degraded into a flame war. A moderator already clipped some pages of flaming, taking valid discourse along with it. Seriously guys, we can't discuss what music we like without devolving into name calling? | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/16/2005 11:24:36 PM | Thank You:
I now know what flaming refers to,,,, Schoenberg wrote some softer music outside of the 12 notes stuff, he was a wonderful transcriber, the Brahms piece for Piano transcribed for small orchestra, title eludes me now. 20th century American and Russian is grand, unfortunately the Russian still had restrictions imposed on the composers denying much freedom but their American counterparts. Arnold Shoenbergs' tennis partner was Groucho Marx,, Rachmaninoff got his bluest in the States and the cider is kicking in,,, I slither away, g'nite from Canada with Love. | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/17/2005 7:33:13 AM | Otto...I appreciate your opinion,but I personally feel that Mozarts music is far more complicated and complex technically as well as emotionally than Wagners will ever be.It isnt a matter of not being able to grasp Wagners pseudo complex (IMHO)music.I personally feel Wagner was full of himself and devoid of any hint of emotion in his music.From a technical standpoint,yes he is very good.He just happens to leave me cold and I walk away feeling empty after listening to Wagner.I understand why his music would have alot of fans though and im not trying to start yet even more drama in this thread LOL.I never expected Jerry Springer style fighting to break out in a classical music thread.Im kicking out the first person who throws a chair  | |
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| Does anyone else appreciate Classical music?:)
Posted: 11/17/2005 10:02:48 AM | | Wagner/Mozart; Mozart thrived off commissions for much of his Life so there was more of an expectation in his content,, he didn't become really content in his compositional style until he could just compose. Wagner, comes in a little later after commissions weren't as abundant, so his freedom of expression had less expectation within it, until his Ring Cycle commissined by the loopy Prince in Bavaria. Also, orchestras went from 40 small to 100 large and larger, instrument specific to mass colouration of many instruments, take Berlioz Symphony Fantastique. Wagner, wanted LOUD, built a hall to accentuate the sound,, dmamn, one finger hunt and peck typing makes this so difficult to convey. I'll take Mozart over Wagner any day. Wagner would also conduct other Composers work with gloves on if those Composers were Jewish, this way he could throw the gloves in the sweeping of the Janitors broom at the end of the night. | |
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| Classical, as in music from 1700-1800, or Classical as in Music that isn't pop?
Posted: 11/17/2005 10:07:54 AM | There is anApartment in London where both Frederich Handel and Jimi Hendrix lived; on the outside wall there is a plaque that says;
........." Two very namely Composers lived in this house,, one was a brilliant, innovative, genius and the other composed drab, trite baroque!" or something to that effect. | |
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| Classical (traditional) music
Posted: 11/18/2005 9:13:27 PM | Indeed, you are not alone in your love of classical music...
Although twenty-first century musicians might argue the fact, Classical music is the root of modern music.
The word itself means 'traditional.'
Telemann, Bach, Vivaldi - Mozart - Beethoven invented and applied the musical forms. | |
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