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 enfpman

Joined: 9/24/2007
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Posted: 2/12/2008 4:59:54 AM
I joined RSVP in Australia, three years ago. I've had a fair number of genuine enquiries in that time, and that is a site where one pays for the privilege.

Others, like Adult Friend Finder, for instance, well ..... I've been convinced it's a scam. A bait email will arrive, a bit of to-and-fro, then nothing.

As for POF, my experience is that it's been pretty genuine, with some good people here, so hang in there!
 Michaelann

Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 277
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Posted: 2/12/2008 2:53:27 PM
Does anyone have any information about SINGLES NET.COM? - musicianfriend

To answer the specific question put by musicianfriend, not right now I don't. But then again, I was told that
they are a free site. I'll do a little research & get back to you on that.

To answer the general question of this thread, I'm not sure. Maybe yes & no. While it might make sense that
these sites cost money to run & therefore it isn't outrageous to charge a fee for the service, & also charging
a fee, might discourage those of frivolous intent. But, it just feels WRONG! Some things in life should not be
evaluted based on cost &/or affordability. And when you start seraching, look at the costs. The first month I
was on POF, I went on enough coffee dates to (damn near) sink the Titanic! 6 coffee dates, 1 dinner & 1
dancing date, my first weekend!

One of the great joys of the internet, is that there is SO MUCH free stuff out there. Free webhosts (I have
over a dozen sites, including 4 business sites, don't pay a cent!), free computer games, & I have a list of over
100 free dating sites, on one of my websites! There's tons of them out there, why would anyone bother to
pay? Ok, I just realized something, may be the reason there's so many naughty scamming dating sites,
is that free sites like POF, are stealing all their customers! Oops! Well, that is not good, they will just have to
smarten up & find a better way to be competitive.
 Timothy25

Joined: 12/22/2006
Msg: 278
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Posted: 2/13/2008 1:21:40 PM
Those people should than be arrested. Those pay sites should be shut down as of distrust on new people to take them over.
 Timothy25

Joined: 12/22/2006
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Posted: 3/3/2008 4:41:58 AM
Has anyone ever reported match.com, eharmony or yahoo personals to the Internet Crime Complaint Center? I heard that people reported true.com to them. Even the Texas attorney general and better business bearau.

We should even report adult friend finder and fling.
 ClassifiedTMI

Joined: 6/14/2007
Msg: 280
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problem with Match.com
Posted: 3/6/2008 10:07:23 AM

most of the women on Match are nonpaying members. They are just fishing for attention (free of charge) and are not sincere. They can receive messages but cannot respond to your message even if they wanted to.
I have to disagree; it's possible the women realized it was not working for them so they gave it up, hence no response. It doesn't mean they are insincere or just fishing for attention.

Why would anybody do that? The whole point of getting attention from someone else is for that someone to KNOW the attention is received, but as in this case the women can't reply, how is the man to know that? .. so he then concludes she must be just out for the chance to think "hey, that guy's hot, but I CAN'T ANSWER HIM!!!"

Ease off the chipped shoulder, Luv.
 enredar

Joined: 3/13/2008
Msg: 281
meetic.com
Posted: 3/20/2008 5:12:50 AM
The faking of the last login date of a profile has been mentioned earlier in the thread, and I saw it happen this week.

Meetic, a pay site for men, women free, have a "last connection" option in the search which gives

a) "indifferent"
b) "less than a week"
c) "less than a month"
d) "less than two months"

So I select (b) and see a profile I like. Return 3 days later and try (b) again, but the profile has gone. So try option (c), still not there. Ok, it's been deleted. But wait, select option (d) and it's still there! So it fell from 1 week to 2 months in 3 days. Something's not right.

Perhaps they "cycle" dormant profiles to make them look active, or if there aren't enough real 1 weekers, they create a few more until there are? No sane man will pay if women aren't seen to be active.

Or there could be a bug in the software
 HDynasty81

Joined: 3/10/2008
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are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 3/23/2008 2:56:09 PM

Does anyone have any information about SINGLES NET.COM?
SINGLES NET.COM
SINGLES NET.COM


Do you have trouble getting off that site? Do you find that they charge you when you think you are off? Any one have any info on them?


I used it once last January and found it to be a scam, talked to one person on there and it turns out she was from Nigeria and wanted me to send money to her.
 vin

Joined: 4/12/2005
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are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 3/26/2008 9:11:00 AM
Of course they are. Some idiots think that because they are paying for a site, they are going to get a quality list of prospects when in fact the women are just as messed up as on any free site.

Most women do not know what they want and pansy around professing to be what they are not. In the sixties, there was free sex and bras were burned, then that did not do, so they said "I don’t want to be treated as a sex object", men are boneheads etc. They ultimately divorced their husbands [or ran him off] looking for Mr. Right and now these women are in their sixties and wishing they were sex objects once more as most want to get laid and they find the following two possibly dilemmas; either the guy in their age group is not interested or cannot engage in sex or the eligible guys are looking for young stuff and not some old puffy, pudgy old bag.
Vin
 littleaudrey

Joined: 1/17/2008
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are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 3/29/2008 8:24:14 AM
I got engaged two days ago to someone I met on Match.com. My grandmother is living with a man she met on Match.com. It's a good site and it obviously does work if you're willing to put in the time and energy. I met FIFTEEN men from a few different dating sites. Fourteen of them were losers. One was great and I am engaged to him. He lives ten minutes away from me, goes to school down the street from my job, and I love him immensely.

So, it costs money. The 150 dollars I paid for six months of Match.com was worth it. Look at it like this: I spent 150 dollars and got a husband. I think I got the better end of the deal.
 Timothy25

Joined: 12/22/2006
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Posted: 4/2/2008 4:39:40 AM
There have been a bunch of dating specialists on match.com. I lost trust in match.com. I will come back to it if they get thier act together and straighten up.

Have any of you heard of Dawn Yanek? I am not sure whether or not she's trustable. She's pretty. She doesn't work for match.com but just associated with them and did a commercial.
 DanXS

Joined: 3/21/2008
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are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/2/2008 8:38:24 AM
It is a scam if the owners of the site or other admin teams from other sites email you knowing that you are not able to read your emails without signing up. In my opinion, because they are doing it just so that you sign up. If its not a scam it is at least dishonest! As for rusians, I would be very wearly they are often trying to get money out of you for flight or whatever, but they don't show up on your doorstep, they just carry on trying to win the trust of other succers!
are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/2/2008 9:03:01 AM
I have had no issues with pay sites, you just have to be smarter than they are. I prefer the pay sites for meeting ladies. There are more women to choose from because most of the men won't spend the money required to sign up. I have not had a no show yet.
5-40$ is nothing to spend when it comes attached with a nice lady at the other end.
 Timothy25

Joined: 12/22/2006
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are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/2/2008 12:04:11 PM
I haven't had much issues with pay sites. Sending winks on match.com doesn't get paying but true.com does.

I heard allot about true.com with the billing. I don't think that match.com or yahoo personals are as guilty as true.com. The site should be called false.com and true.com was always a pay site while yahoo personals and match.com started out free.

I don't have much problems with pay sites but I gave them up from what I read about complaints and about them on those message boards.

Maybe I will go back to match.com and yahoo personals.

Also on match.com and yahoo personals we could forward profiles to friends like anyone who we want to. I wouldn't even go onto eharmony if we have to pay just to see the photos. I think that it's silly to.

I never even tried perfect match and I don't ever want to get married. I am just looking for long term and short term dating.
 StarreGazer

Joined: 2/21/2007
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Posted: 4/2/2008 12:53:38 PM


Msg: 278 -- Those people should than be arrested. Those pay sites should be shut down as of distrust on new people to take them over.


I haven't seen a paysite YET that delivers AS PROMISED.

POF is FREE, and the ONLY thing they promise is an OPEN communication channel to other singles. Honestly, how can ANYONE realistically promise anything ELSE?

I have had my FILL of pay sites. I haven't seen one YET that delivers. I have met only a FEW singles here on POF, but then I don't initiate many contacts. Most of the ones that I have initiated resulted in friendly replies, although as yet I have failed to meet "My Fishie".

Then also, I have seen my fair share of "Unread/Deleted" and "Read/Deleted" messages. But to me, when I see one of those, that is just as good as an uninterested reply. I have read many complaints about these, but TRUTHFULLY, does ANYONE REALLY CARE about why they are not interested? I certainly don't. The only ones I care about are those INTERESTED parties who CHOOSE to respond. Those who express interest are GENUINE!! They may balk later on, but at LEAST I got a "nibble" from a real "fishie".

When I finally catch one, she will be a real "Keeper"!
 StarreGazer

Joined: 2/21/2007
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are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/2/2008 1:11:19 PM

Msg: 284 -- The 150 dollars I paid for six months of Match.com was worth it. Look at it like this: I spent 150 dollars and got a husband. I think I got the better end of the deal.


You got lucky, and more power to you because of it. I got burned and won't go back. It is all a matter of perception, anticipation, and satisfaction.

Suffice it to say I was NOT satisfied. But then, my requirements are a bit more than they can deal with, so I got as I expected.

I got one "ALMOST" here at POF. The prohibiting factor in this case was DISTANCE. I truly believe that if she lived CLOSER to me, things would have turned out better between us.

For what we lacked between us, I blame the DISTANCE.
 vinny1234

Joined: 10/12/2007
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Posted: 4/2/2008 1:51:07 PM
To the person that asked about singles net. Its a rip off to. I did talk to some real women that were in my area but I got tons of emails from scammers from russia and affrica. Now that may not be the web sites fault but I do wonder how I get so many scammers emailing me from a pay site and yet pof is free and haven't heard from one scammer.
 dwinth54

Joined: 1/22/2008
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Posted: 4/2/2008 1:51:29 PM
Women are sitting on a gold mine and they do know it and so does the get rich quick merchants that play on lonely peoples misfortunes,all you have to do is cast a line out with a pretty women on it and wait for the bite and scoop the rewards,that your pay sites Russian euro,Anastasia,Taut 2 etc etc. are now doing.
Do yourself a favour guys and visit eastern europe you get more value for money.
 arwen52

Joined: 3/13/2008
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Posted: 4/2/2008 2:33:56 PM
My experience was not bad, just not that good. I got a lot of responses, especially when I first signed up. I think the folks that were on immediately jumped on a new profile. The guys I met were not very interesting, though, and half were lying about their age, claiming they were younger than they were. After six months, I dropped it. I figure that on the free sites I have nothing to lose. Perhaps I've gotten better at figuring this out, but the guys I'm meeting are of a better quality.
 seekerinwonder

Joined: 4/28/2007
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are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/2/2008 2:51:37 PM
are there any other good free sites
 outofthedesert

Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 295
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Posted: 4/2/2008 2:57:21 PM
I have met and dates men from paid sites but I have also had numbers in the 'viewed you' file and when I looked there was nothing there. That was while on a paid subscription. Match will not let you remove your profile. You can hide it, but not remove it.
 richard233

Joined: 11/10/2006
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are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/2/2008 4:00:53 PM
I think what is needed is a law requiring them to only show those people who can
actually respond to a message with another message. If this means they need to
let the ladies in for free, fine by me, but I have no interest paying for a site that
would require the person to pay to respond.

Advertising someone as a member when they have no real connection to site seems
like fraud to me.
 outofthedesert

Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 297
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Posted: 4/2/2008 4:03:51 PM
On one site, everyone of my 'matches' had not been active in weeks.
 udb82

Joined: 2/29/2008
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are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/2/2008 6:18:15 PM
Yes they are big time. If something is too good to be true then i dont think its true. There are various e-mail/screen scanning programs out there that on-line dating sites use. I work in I.T i have seen these programs. I had to program a dating website (proto-type) as part of a uni assignment which was quite funny looking back at it now. Also some of the pictures of people on websites are fake and false. They are professionally done and modified through computer graphics software. End of the day though they are a business and profits drive them not the pursit of helping people find love. Its a corporation behind these sites that use psychological tactics to lure people to pay. In other words they pray on people's emtions. Hmm another term for that is called "Marketing". Rockect science at its best lol.

Just my 2 cents worth (Australian cents which is about 1.9 american cents i believe at this stage of the market).
 kissable0325

Joined: 10/15/2007
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Posted: 4/2/2008 7:08:49 PM
Does anyone have any information about SINGLES NET.COM?


I don't know about it being a scam, but they are the worst dating website I've ever used and I even paid for a year. Their search capabilities are laughable. You can only search by zipcode and the radius you put in is going to ignored by the system. You say 75 miles, you'll see results from up to 300 miles away. You can't search by anything else, but zipcode. No searching by smoker or non-smoker, drinker or non-drinker, photo or no-photo. You can't even specify an age range.

Also, their email system is the pits. They say that emails are held for thirty days. Yeah, right. Try three days if you're lucky. I've had emails disappear out of my mailbox within a day or two of receiving them.

And singlesnet.com seems to be a hotbed for all those lovely 26-year-old beauties from Nigeria that are just aching to spend the rest of their lives with you. All it will cost is a few hundred dollars for her sick mom, who just went into the hospital for an operation, or to pay the rent because the landlord is about to evict her and her "mum", or quite a few other scams.

I won't ever go back there. So, if you've seen my profile there and it says I've been on "within the last 3 days" don't believe it.
 kissable0325

Joined: 10/15/2007
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Posted: 4/3/2008 2:23:17 AM

On one site, everyone of my 'matches' had not been active in weeks.


Try CyclingSingles.com. They don't even put that kind of notice on profiles and I haven't seen a new female profile in months. The one or two ladies on that site in my area haven't been on in months. No way I'm going to pay for a membership on a site like that
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