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There is one for dancers also, but I did not find a partner there. They are rated by experience. I am a latin, ballroom, country, swing dancer and can't seem to find a partner on any of the sites. Guys, learn to dance, most women everywhere want a man who will dance. I hike, ride my bike and dance and nothing around here, not even an activity partner on the majority of the sites I checked.
Yes, DancePartner.com is okay, but its pool of available contacts is quite limited. I've had some success in meeting women on that site, but nothing serious has developed.
You are a ballroom dancer and you like to ride your bike? If you didn't live 2000 miles away we would be perfect for each other.  | |
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Posted: 4/3/2008 7:16:28 PM | I have tried several pay sites. I don't think any of them are scamming us. Some of the best women I have met came from " Singles.net" and "The Perfect Match" I have also tried "True" , Match.com and Yahoo. As well as a few free sites. I don't think any site works any better than the others. However, I was very impressed with Perfect Match. They do a search to make sure you are single. I never had any trouble with married women on that site.
The thing you need to do before you join a site is take a tour first. Find out if there are any people on the site that live close enough to you. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2008 8:14:44 PM | | Some sites are scamming us, yes, totally, as there are no "laws" setting parameters on this commerce format. If I added up the hours I have wasted on all these website I could have finished a Master Degree from Harvard Extension School . .. . . . Unfortunately for us older folks who are not young and glamourous anymore we have few other resources unless we enjoy hanging out in bars, churches, or gambling facilities. Men don't chase me down the street anymore--but they use to! The worse scamming experience I had was on MillionaireMatch.com. I think the whole country of Nigeria contacted me with various photos that were obviously not the men behind the messages. Match.com will keep your profile posted even after you are in the grave and your will has been read, with the obitutary posted. I like POF. I would like to thank those who have contributed extensively to this particular blog. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 6:12:57 PM | | Maybe more success with match.com and yahoo personals when they were free. I read some things about true.com in the online dating magazine and even on rip off report. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2008 2:11:11 AM | ok,
im certain now that i was scammed by realsexdates. got a couple of emails sent to me and of course cant see them till you pay, so i paid. and of course those were the last times to get any emails. the emails i got were within 2 days of signing up. all this activity just till you pay then all stops and no responses back from anyone.
I think yahoo personals did the same thing, got a few women who simply fall in love with you sending long winded emails. 2 of the women with similar themes. then when you want to see the person finally, got a story that she was in africa stranded by her betraying lover.
i'm about to figure out where to begin not just to get my money back but see if a class action or similar suit was filed. this cant be allowed to continue.,
anyone know of how to attack back?
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Posted: 4/25/2008 2:31:31 AM | Kissable, I thought so also.
I report all the 12th grade educated doctors in Nigera to admin on Match. The profiles get deleted. They are all named Kevin and living in Nigera doing research on women's GYN issues. I complained and got no results. It appears the same guy is doing all the profiles. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2008 2:37:03 AM | | I have been in and out of the personal websites for a long time. I have met many guys and kept a couple of them as friends since then, but to say I have had success, no way. I no longer "pay to play" so to speak. Not that I'm a player by any means. I have also found out that there are basically the same crop to pick from at all of the sites that I frequent. I'll save my money and invest in something else... | |
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Posted: 4/25/2008 3:04:04 AM | | I'll admit, I was stupid and rejoined Match because I had 3 emails and was curious. Fortunately, I have the 6 month free if you don't find a match so it makes it a little easier. But as the above poster said, same people are on all the sites. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2008 4:21:49 AM | Lots say what you are saying goes on:
They also say the good looking wow pictures are made up from the sites too, cos when you message the good looking ones back, who appeared to be very keen, they dont reply.
Yep paid sites do have their ways of getting you to pay up for another month, just in case
AHHHH - did you all know they sell the members, the pictures and profiles with other dating sites, I have heard I been seen on sites I have never heard of let alone joined. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2008 5:44:48 AM |
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Well the way I see it.. anyone who charges a person to fix them up with someone is , in my opinion, is like providing an escort service. I dont believe it is right at all. IN fact there is laws against that sort of thing. But you cant make an argument out of it cause PEOPLE actually DO pay for stuff like that.
I dont know if they are THAT desperate or what not. But then if the people selling the product think these people are THAT desperate WAHOOOO MORE money in thier POCKET! Of course it is a SCAM, and the peopel that fall for it should take it as a valuable lesson! | |
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:19:41 AM | | This site is for real. LOL, It is a feel good site for most women here. I enjoy making women feel good about theirselves. But, It is not productive for me. I know, I get lots of attention at the clubs and have a lot more fun there. I don't get all the women at the clubs, but atleast I know they are looking for some of my attention. I feel like I am part of a catalog here. I am sure there are a few women that are serious about finding someone here. But time is on their side. As far as the pay sites, you have to figure they are scamming. Here is a trick that convinced me. try to search the profile that is so eager to meet you. You can do this free. You will find them either to be six months old or deleted all together. LOL, it is true, try it. I am heading back to the bars, where the people are real!!!!!!! and really looking now!!!! LOL | |
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Posted: 4/25/2008 8:46:00 AM | | Huggybear thanks for the informative msg #20! I've always suspected much of what you've identified. I don't think a willingness to pay these corporations exhorbitant amounts of money makes you more serious about finding a partner; I think it just makes you gullible. I've been on match.com with some success in the past, but no more success than I'm having on POF. There are insincere people everywhere - here on POF and match and lavalife etc. It takes time to weed through the pond, and that's where POF is a definite advantage - it can take a year or more on match but every second counts, you might go ahead on that date because your subscription is running out and you don't want to renew. Here, no hurry - no worry. Maybe that is why some people lament the length of time people have been on POF without success - maybe they can afford to be more discerning without the clock ticking. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2008 11:41:08 AM |
The guys I met were not very interesting, though, and half were lying about their age, claiming they were younger than they were.
If they were EVEN REAL men!!.. I know one particular Paid site. Well you pay if you want a "Gold Member"ship to be allowed to email and make first contact with someone else . Otherwise you can be free and not be able to contact anyone.. whic islike why even bother.
But back to the point there is all these Russian Ukranian Marriage scammers who use Stolen Credit cards.. to get a gold membership and then they email as many people as they can. Thier profiles all say they are like 29-30 years old and they give like a US state as thier location... But then when they email you they want you to email them back but they give you a RUSSIAN email address. hehe!.. Lame.. I know!!.. Whats even funnier is that when the site finds the credit cards they use are stolen.. the Profiles all seem to to be taken down in bunches heheh!
I guess the scammers figure they wll hit on the REAL gold members thinking they are paying money out of desperation so if they can pay for that then THEY are shure to be suckered in thier so called marrage scams! They basically hit them up for to send money for them to come to the states hehe!..
"HMM funny your profile says you WERE in the states?"...NO thats only where thier family lives and they want to be with thier family so they can be close to you! HEHE "So if your FAMILY is already in the U.S. then WHY not hit them up for money instead!! BYE! " hehehe
So I guess the point of it is .. the general percent of the scamming is NOT from the site itslef but the PEOPLE who take advantage of it for Illegal purposes!! | |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 2:49:25 PM | This is how I lost trust in pay sites. I might as well come back to yahoo personals and match.com.
There's this feature called report a concern if we suspect that there's something wrong. They might do that only because of complaints of con artsits that they get. | |
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Posted: 5/18/2008 6:01:30 AM | | I wrote this thread a while back,,haven't been on any pay sites for along time so I have no new info. | |
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Posted: 5/18/2008 6:44:48 AM | Well said, And once again, If they gave us what we all want. Like undying love forever with a totally hot ex striper who wants to be told what to do in bed, and tied up and handcuffed once in a while. (just a thought) they would be out of business right?  | |
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Posted: 5/18/2008 8:34:00 AM | | got to be, they advertise having so many pretty young girls from where i live, that surely i should run across one of them at least once. and like ya say, u join, see hot gals, write to them, sometimes get a rresponse, most times not, and let your subscript expire, then come the e mails. k | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 10:02:14 AM | Possibly... (in answer to the OP, and the thread title question).
I say possibly because I've actually met and become friends with 2 people who I was matched with when I had a brief eHarmony membership several years ago. Since my initial eHarmony membership (in which I acted as the site advises, and communicated with EVERY MATCH through guided communication to open communication until it became clear that a) I wasn't interested or he was incompatible, or b) he wasn't interested or I was incompatible with him.) So, after a 3-mo eH membership in 2004, and another 3 month membership in 2006, I've communicated with or intially rejected (or been rejected by) about 420 matches. Out of that, 1 close friend who just isn't in the cards, romantically speaking, and 1 semi-close friend who probably will also never be a romantic partner. But I value both of those friendships, and they were definitely worth the $ I paid. BTW, I would NEVER pay the $50/mo that the site wants you to pay. I only responded to their "act now and pay only $14.95 per mo" type deals. And I never auto-renew.
Ironic, really, that one of those friends I made through eHarmony introduced me to PlentyOFFish, and my initial profile here, 2 years ago, resulted in many friends and many initial meetings, with one short-lived LTR (yes, another irony) resulting. When I came back to the site at the end of last year, my experience has been the same -- there are a lot of great people on this site.
I do know from personal experience that the "true dot com" site, even if they were not scamming people, per se, as I've heard alleged -- they certainly seemed to mislead people on a regular basis. I never paid for a membership there, but at the time I was a non-paying member, true let non-payers respond to the emails of payers. So, I had several dates from that site -- real-world meets. But, I did get a lot of "winks", which when I responded with a "hey, thanks for your interest, but I don't think we're compatible", many times I received a response saying "well, i've never even seen your profile, I thought YOU winked at ME. So, obviously the site was trying to stir up interest, all around.
A lot of free things in life are really quite valuable. And at least there's no chance to get scammed here -- we're all getting exactly what we paid for with this site!  | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 2:32:37 PM | Well a friend of mine's profile appeared online last year, and seeing as how she was engaged at the time I e-mailed her to ask about it. It turned out that she hadn't posted her profile back up, and that was why the photo and information were years old. Be wary when you put your information on these sites, it could be used to con others into giving them more profiles to lure more people in, and more people means more subscription money.
I wouldn't say that all of the people who ignore your messages are ignoring it due to an automated system interrupting the exchange. I've found that when I send messages with a Be Mine rose they get ignored, but when I don't send a rose I get a reply. It's just how people are, or at least that's how it comes across to me. Anyone else had this problem?
You could always set up a fake profile without a picture and send a wink to your real profile to see if it gets through. Let us know how it goes if you give this a try please. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 3:21:14 PM | HuggyBear4U wrote:
The owners of POF found a niche market where they have the opportunity to make some revenue and sacrificed an attempt to compete with the giants. And POF is certainly entitled to receive their advertising revenue for their investment and effort in creating and maintaining this site. Lets hope this site continues for everyone.
You make some very good points in that post, and this quote is one of the best. The owner (one guy named Marcus Frind and his girlfriend operating the site out of their apartment!) is making over a quarter million dollars a month on this site from the free ads...ads which I can't say I ever notice other than when I login. If there is any sign of how much money you can make by having MANY eyes land on a few ads this site is it. There is no need to be greedy and charge for the service since the presence of the users allows you to derive ad revenue. It is exactly like the model that fed broadcast TV for so long, but I digress. The key driver to the success of POF is that relative to other services , providing profiles is dead easy. The technology needed never goes beyond web 1.0 1995...where they add in newer technology (like web chat) they are licensing it from another provider (userplane) but everything else is really easy for a modern box to push out to many thousands of requests per minute. That allows the number of eyes hitting this site to really be huge without requiring a great deal of operating cost and that translates to carts of cash. Also, a huge factor in demanding payment is the need to either get a payment processor (like google check out or paypal) which charge fees proportional to your service charges or implement your own system and get a merchant account. Both are an additional drain on revenue and reduce final profit. If the other services realized they could get similar ad revenue by being free they still wouldn't be able to do it, since unlike this site, it isn't one guy behind the project but a massive corporation which has high paid employees and investors demanding more profit every successive quarter. Gotta love how the internet seems to make the massive people and money advantages of the corporations irrelevant , yes???
This is a cash cow for Marcus now, once the operating costs (which are probably no more than a few thousand dollars a month) are subtracted from revenue everything else is profit. So conceivably , he could set the site on autopilot and just take money so long as people come here to do online dating, and why wouldn't they considering it is free? The perfect set up, he deserves all the success he can get for realizing that you don't have to rip people off to make money in business...in fact online, you can give stuff away and still grow rich!!
Links:
http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/small-companies-google-adsense-is-the-future/ (Marcus' blog about the POF site, note the check for two months and 900,000 + dollars!!)
http://www.webpublishingblog.com/exclusive-interview-with-plentyoffishcom-creator-and-owner-markus-frind.htm | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 3:27:10 PM | | i have lived in a small community of approximately 4000 for 20 years, the pay sites constantly send dozens of pics of beautful girls claiming they live in my town, being i work for a utility company and know everyone in my town, i know that not one of these girls lives there now or has lived there in the past 20 years. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 3:57:10 PM | | Anybody have anything on the site called Christian Mingles - i could tell ya some stories!!!! | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 4:39:46 PM | I agree that they are a scam for the most part.
I noticed it to with Eharmony and more so with true. com Eharmony is trying very hard to get me back
but I like this site the best so far 1. it's free. 2. it seems real at least so far. 3 people are sharing opinions
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Posted: 10/17/2011 9:46:32 AM | Would not know.Have never paid to belong to an e-mail sight. I still get more responces than I can handel(or want to) and I am short,old,and a little fat.Paying seems to me like being pimped with no guarenties(see I can't even spell) | |
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Posted: 11/23/2011 6:52:02 PM | | Your right,that is the way they do........I been done that way.........They need throwed under the jail for doing that....I mean UNDER.Paid sites puts fake profiles on there of women so there are women there for men to pay to message.Free sites allows anyone to get on so sorry people puts up fake profiles for fu n,games. | |
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