| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/9/2005 3:37:18 PM | | Sending any kind of a reply to someone is usually a invitation for more email. If your a popular women and get 30+ emails a day the last thing you want is another message | |
|
| |
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/10/2005 6:01:40 AM | | The scam part of this is the email replies,whether it be russian's,people from 1,500 miles away and you said 50,women that don't exist,all of these things I get when subscription runs out.Then to see the mail they try to get my money.I just look at who has viewed me lately and there they are russians new york people and I'm hoosier.When you put down email from 50 miles and get these from other people 3,400 miles away,to try to get me to renew subscription,that is misleading and not trying to help me for the money I paid the month before.I have currently 4 or 5 down for the count .No more money from me "ever".When you get 0 email for the month then get six or eight and if you hold off long enough I will probably have 1,000 after from some sites.If you pay for more than a month,like six mos then email drops off for the next 6 mos at that site.Short term pay lots more mail,long term none,they have your money till then.They don't want anyone to suceed!That is the fact.They want us to fail,the longer were cruising for chicks the more they have they're free server up.One site I was on that started with E got my money then kept sending me people from everywhere but Indiana.One in every 20 to 30 was from Indiana,and I said 100 miles not 1,500 they are not blocking the girls from to far away and blocking the ones close by .Distance,,, states ,,are critical for there links and those are the things that make you fail in relationships. | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/10/2005 6:27:10 AM | | I maybe am not a paid advertiser for the site ,,this is true.I'm sorry I brought this up,because I will succeed thru my own contacts and not wait on email from the site.I will Instant message whoever I want whenever I want .I have only had dates this way .NO MIDDLEMAN.They decide after chatting with me.I will succeed!!I won't pay for singles crap sites anymore.FREE FREE FREE at last and probably MARRIED MARRIED MARRIED again ...lol.....what am I thinkin. | |
|
jimb77
|
Joined: 8/30/2005
Msg: 30 | |
| |
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/10/2005 7:50:14 AM | Actually I took a look at your profile. I think you are a very nice looking man, I live way down in San Antonio Texas, am 47. Age doesn't matter. There are many reasons to be attracted to someone, usually it has less to do with looks than personality & compatibility.
I try to keep in shape and healthy. No one believes that I am 47. I think I look better than alot of younger women. I have even on 'myspace' had alot of guys in their 20's wanting to date me. I don't belong in there anymore. The age group is really too young for me. I did belong to the somespamsites and got alot of mail. Most were decent enough and really looking for someone. It seemed it was easy for people to sneek their e-mail address's in there & I was able to contact without paying anything some of them.
I look for the paying places to go out of business one day. I love the forums at this site. I am associating with alot more people than I usually do and the subjects are really interesting. | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/10/2005 8:18:29 AM | When I say on the letter above that I looked at your profile it was the older man from Canada I was replying to. I hit reply on his message. Why is this system making it look like I am answering somebody else than the intended person. My other letter was for a man up in his 50's or 60's that posted in here. I will from now on write personally to the individuals instead of reply by their pictures. I notice that some people's replies are in the right spot, but mine sure didn't show that way. I don't want to take out the time to write to the owners of this site and ask them to fix their system.
The way my reply letter looks, it appears I am writing to the person who started this subject when it was another gentle man. I suppose I could address it to the person with their ID at the top of the message. That would work alot easier. | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/10/2005 8:26:33 AM |
Though I’ve come to the conclusion that there are so many male fish in the pond that gals simply go window shopping and pick the most attractive and affluent
I don't know -- I'm rich and hot and I'm just as frustrated as you are.
Here's a great one. I got an email from someone through Match that suggested that I should go over to place4friends, create a free profile, and we could use their chat function. So I figured, what the hell, it's probably a scam but no risk, right? I made my free profile and never heard from the babe, just as I expected. But what I did start getting were lots of "winks" from various women around the country, and all I had to do was give p4f a credit card in order to send them an email. I was pretty sure this was a scam, but reserved judgement.
Until the day that I started getting emails telling me that " linguatic has winked at you! "
Um. Right. | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/10/2005 11:01:53 AM | FOr what most site offer they are over charging us.
-----------
as for admins #s... men and women in most age goops when compaired each other is about 50% men and 50% women.
women below age 30 get alot of mail. from age 40 and up it slows.
---------
women rarely write guys.
---------
all people rarely look past the pictures.
Few women will write someone they may like if they think that person does not have money.
Most replies I get in some way concern money. it is my belief that most women want money first, looks seconed and personality third.
---------
What every happend to getting a good product or service at a fair price?
What happened to finding true love and respect? Finding new friends? | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/11/2005 9:09:15 AM | besides this site....what are other good free site like mingles?
Personally, I would never pay for any site. There are enough ways to meet
women and save your subscription fees for actual dates.
Good luck to you all | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/11/2005 9:17:26 AM | | Plentyoffish is several times bigger then all free dating sites combined, especially now that webdate went paid. | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/11/2005 9:30:26 AM | Ok guys and girls........... I totally agree that the Internet Dating thing is a scam. I've been pretty successful but here is when. When I get ready to stop paying on my a dating site I try to bury my e-mail address in there somewhere. Gigglex is truly right when most don't read the profile........but the ones that truly want to get to know you will read. Most that read the profiles and do the searchs aren't members. So if they stumble on your e-mail address and are interested they will write. These are the ladies that I've had the most luck in meeting and having a great time with.
What Match and Yahoo are doing it not right but the others are worse. How about when you receive and e-mail and you go to that site only to find that you can't respond (not member) nor can you view profile of the person sending it. There is another new one or copy of another site called passiondates or something like that...... They don't provide the age nor the body type. Ok guys.......we all think that we are good at telling age but come on. And the body type ...........sure its a fregan head shot.
I'm sure that you've all been invited to new personal sites only to find that it is a duplicate of one already out there. Look at the format. I haven't done this but my guess is if you did a search you would mostly likely find yourself already on there. There is no control by any organization to protect you so common sense if the rule of thumb here people.
Here is something else that I found interesting. I recently changed my picture. See the one on the left. Just me and the dog in front of the yellow hummer. My e-mail and response to my profile increased 10 times. Now is that shallow or what.
And last but not least....what about all the people that are on the Personal Sites with no intentions in meeting anyone face to face. It's a big head game to read the e-mails and never respond. In my opinion, if you get e-mails and you don't respond you should be warned. Then if it continues...........suspend the profile ! Sounds cold but that would open up these sites to those of us that are truly looking to meet someone.
Oh..........you married dudes...........what is with that ! You think because your lying on the personals stating your separated.....or whatever is going to work. While your out scrwing around on your wife..............she's at my house !
Have a great weekend daters ! | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/11/2005 2:18:38 PM | | On Match.com you pay 3 - 6 months in advance for use. I don't think they are hiding your reponses. But, there are so many people on those sites that desirable women are just bombarded with winks and e-mails. I have talked to women who get 20 e-mails a day. So, it's just like fighting for their attention at a bar. | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/11/2005 2:52:55 PM | | O ya let me tell you a little secret when they send you a mail in box take that username and put it on there search and 99.9per. of the time it will show nobody play around with search of known users and they appear if a web site does not have a search engine DONT BOTHER WITH THEM THERE SCAMMING YOU !!!!!!! | |
|
Tinkle
|
Joined: 11/2/2005
Msg: 40 | |
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/11/2005 4:43:15 PM | | Yes, yes, yes and yes. Man, do they scam big time. Everyone I have been on, and that is a lot have scammed or have scammers. Oh, there is a big named search engine one, that doesn't scam. They do have scammers on them tho. The company itself doesn't do anything scammish that I can tell. | |
|
| |
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/11/2005 6:50:55 PM | Hey babe, Don't give up yet..Compared to every other site THIS ONE ROCKS !!
Post some hot pics of yourself..Your pics are cool,but you could ad some more,change em up,etc..
As for the pay site bashing, well it should be obvious that some of those rip off pay sites spend a few of the bucks they screw people out of to ad links here or it appears that way to me..
So if that's the case and I think it is, then hail to the rip off pay sites and every other advertiser on here for helping to keep an awesome site like this one up & running..
Jeeez I must be bored..I'm posting here,no offense to everyone else that posts here...lol..
It's actually pretty awesome that everyone can do this..I find it very entertaining,sometimes helpful and informative..
So keep it up !!
Do whatever or whoever floats ya boat,just go for it..
Ok, I'm outta here...  | |
|
kgb99
|
Joined: 10/20/2005
Msg: 43 | |
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/11/2005 7:14:39 PM | You are right and I have the same feeling. First you sign up for free.You get an email within the next couple of days from a seemingly very eager Lady(Even she never saw your pics) and then couple of days later another email from another lady with the same eagerness. Then you think Oh you are finally going to have a date and then you shell out the X amount and sign up. You of course then reply with your return email and that is when everything starts to look real-no response and of course no date.
You got that right on the money. Thumbs up -don't get suckered into signing up unless you have good vibe first!!! | |
|
kgb99
|
Joined: 10/20/2005
Msg: 44 | |
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/11/2005 7:31:33 PM | | I went thru the same process only to sign up and then cancel a month later because the two emails were actually written to get me sign up for 24.99/month.And I signed up-no more contacts or emails from any women. | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/11/2005 9:23:09 PM | | True.com and mate1.com even go and advertise on craigslist for "online ambassadors" these are "women" that get paid to message men when they sign up for free. Google is a wonderful tool :) | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/11/2005 10:55:07 PM | There are two pay sites that I have been on (and one I still belong to):
Match: No scam there - in that there don't ever seem to be any fake messages, flirts/winks/icebreakers, or any of the other BS that happens (or seems to be happening) on the other sites. EVERYONE pays the same amount - no free pass for women, so maybe that has something to do with it. I may renew my subscription there - still have time to decide.
To HuggyBear4U: Match does not COVERTLY replace your external address with your PROFILE (at) talkmatch... when/if you reply from your off-site mailbox that was in your registration. They DOCUMENT this behavior. Mail on Match always gets through to the mailbox for the other profile on their site - perhaps the externally sent carbon-copies are what you're talking about when you say mail disappears?
Realsexdates: Not only is this a scam, there are several of us ex-members who have taken various steps to shut this down. There are fake flirts, canned messages, and stolen profiles (from other sites) on there. Not only that, it has 17 other domain aliases which can be viewed at "sexdatenetwork" which all access the SAME database. This means that when one has signed up for "realsexdates," one is also on "STDsexdates" and other various demeaning names. This has been proven by some of us taking our realsexdates ID/PW's and successfully logging into these other sites. The only thing that changes is ONE image displayed while accessing the site - the image that has the site's name in it. Women are not charged for use of these sites.
My personal steps were to complain to its ISP and its credit card transaction handler on the grounds of WIRE FRAUD - the service paid for was not provided, and by providing support, they may be accessories to the fraud.
I am not the only refugee from realsexdates that is on "fish" here. I shall ask another to comment shortly.
I have thought about joining one or two others on a one month basis, but this thread makes me hesitant to do so without much more research into which ones appear on the level and which ones are fraud-ridden.
--- Other comments ---
In responding to another poster's response here regarding a user's last login time: Note that many pay sites seem to sell their subscriptions either by the month or in units of months. I do agree that "not active in past 3 weeks" or whatever isn't a true measure of when that user may have last actually been on - but it seems that active users check in weekly or more often, so is that really a problem? If 3+ weeks go by, one knows they're not active.
Distance matching: That's based on an algorith that has the longitude and latitude for one's zip code. Some of these databases have inaccurate values or have not been maintained and are missing some zip code entries all together. They probably have a tolerance of error factor added in - and that is what sometimes causes the distance to exceed one's desired range. Remember that zip codes can be a single building (e.g. an IRS service center, now called an IRS campus, PO Box only codes, etc.), or a hundred square miles (e.g. rural areas - Kansas, Nebraska, etc.)
I do agree that auto-charging of credit cards is a practice that should be stopped. This is also done with some information services, not just dating services. There should be an e-mail issued asking that the user reauthorize the charge - i.e. manual renewal with a grace period. Fortunately, we don't have to worry about that here.
Courtesy of other users: I agree that there are many places where the other users simply IGNORE (and probably delete) a message from someone they're not interested in. It's always better to reply with a "not interested" than silence. It allows the initiating party to move on and not waste time creating a follow-up message (sometimes done). It's also just being polite. My experience is that only about 2% at most of other users have had the courtesy to reply at all (and that's not a statistic based on my experience here - but it may hold true here too; haven't been here long enough to tell). I disagree that a "not interested" response is an invitation for another message. I think that this is a problem with SOCIETY at large - COURTESY is a word soon destined to be removed from dictionaries or placed into archaic status. | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/12/2005 12:44:52 AM | | The admin is right. Surprisingly candid. A lot has to do with your photo. If you have an unflattering pic, you wont get replies. I see some females who are 40 and they get a pic that makes them look 20 and they have hundreds of friends. The cut-off used to be 30. The new cut-off is around 38 which is pretty generous. Im much better looking at 40 than i was at 20 but I look at my sister who is 5 years younger than me and she is just shot to hell. I would classify her as undateable. I think this is pretty common knowledge . | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/12/2005 1:08:05 AM | I was really pissed about the recurring charge on my credit card. I had a heck of a time trying to cancel. Had to do a charge back with my credit card company.
The paid sites only survive because there are tons and tons of guys looking for females 27-38. The supply of guys exceeds the supply of gals to such a degree that the sites are a joke on many levels. Desperate guys still use them even though the females are either employees or undateable. There is just too much room for corruption. A female 27-38 is harassed in real life why on earth would she seek out more harassement by joining dating site. The world does not work that way. | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/13/2005 6:57:14 PM | Referring Rabbitman49 –
The attempt to cover-up the abuse on the sexdates sites was and is extensive. Are there real women on the site. Absolutely, but only enough and in such a small active percentage to validate its existence. A few guys starting posting in the, at the time, open to free members, forums and started to compare notes. They were getting the same generic messages from either the same profile or different profiles, but the messages were the same. Replies to these messages were unresponsive or generic returns which were oblivious to the content of the response or members profile. As the complaints and accusations of fraud built up in the forum topics. they would disappear. A new one would form. Same complaints and observations. It would disappear. And on and on. Access has now been terminated to only paying members, so no one free can see what was going on, by then it is too late. Negative posts to the profiles themselves were regularly terminated. In a personal exchange with the owner, one of these specific profiles clearly was demonstrated to be bogus, and he was going to deal with it. Total BS. The profile remains and continues to send come-on messages to unsuspecting members. I got kicked out for spreading false rumours, which were, in fact, stating the facts. The ownership, in my opinion controls these phony profiles and of course is not going to delete his cash cows. What he has done this past week I can only describe as a Tianamen Square Massacre – Kick out the dissenters, close the gates and suppress the truth.
I am currently seeing the same abuse with AdultDateLink
I set up a group in yahoo, to discuss Site Scams (and good ones, too), but rules prevent me from posting here. Write me if you want to look.
One other thing – another exiled member found this pending litigation against the owner on an “unrelated to the site” matter:
AOL v. Wrhel, et al.
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
AMERICA ONLINE INCORPORATED, a Delaware corporation,
Plaintiff,
vs.
CHRISTOPHER MARK WRHEL (a/k/a Mark Wrhel and Bruce Nichols) d/b/a CHRIS MARK SOFTWARE, C & M PROMOTIONS and SMD INC.; BARRY HALE (a/k/a Bruce Nichols) d/b/a BIG B SOFTWARE and VR HORIZON; TERESA HALE (a/k/a TERESITA HALE) d/b/a BIG B SOFTWARE and VR HORIZON; SERGIO HALE (a/k/a Bruce Nichols) d/b/a BIG B SOFTWARE and VR HORIZON; RYAN HALE (a/k/a Bruce Nichols) d/b/a BIG B SOFTWARE and VR HORIZON; JARED THORP (a/k/a Bruce Nichols) d/b/a SMD INC.; and ANDREW D. FAULSTICH (a/k/a Bruce Nichols) d/b/a SMD INC.,
Defendants.
No.
COMPLAINT FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE COMPUTER FRAUD AND ABUSE ACT (18 U.S.C. § 1030); SERVICE MARK INFRINGEMENT (15 U.S.C. § 1114(1)); SERVICE MARK DILUTION (15 U.S.C. § 1125(c)); FALSE DESIGNATION OF ORIGIN (15 U.S.C. § 1125(a)); VIOLATION OF THE WASHINGTON STATE UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL ELECTRONIC MAIL ACT; TRESPASS TO CHATTELS; CONVERSION; CIVIL CONSPIRACY; and UNJUST ENRICHMENT | |
|
| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/13/2005 7:32:17 PM | | Funny how in my town I see hot women all over the place everywhere I go, but when I look on a dating site for women in my area it's like the pickins are pretty slim...and yeah, I had that happen to me, I wrote this chick during my Y free trial, no reply, then 4 months later, I get a "Icebreaker" from the same person sent to my profile, which was still in place on the site. So I send an Icebreaker back, then try to change up my profile where I can put my regular email addy in there without being too obvious about it, but then it gets rejected cuz they wouldn't let it slide under their damn radar. But the women can stick their email contact info in their profiles, and don't get screwed with about it by the stupid dix. Women rule the dating sites (and men are the scammed-on sucker-chumps and fools), that's why. ALL of em. But hey, that's ok, whatever... | |
|
Home
login 
