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| problem with Match.com
Posted: 11/20/2005 9:40:24 AM | | In my opinion, The reason why Men get so few responces is that most of the women on Match are nonpaying members. They are just fishing for attention (free of charge) and are not sincere. They can recieve messages but cannot respond to your message even if they wanted to. It is Match's way of inticing them into joining. It is also my opinion that there are far greater Male paying Match members than Female paying members. Hence the term " So many men so little time". | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 10:06:15 AM | It's just like anything else. You get out what you put in. Not to be rude. But it is important that people stay focused on what the want. Not so much on what they look like. I have many friends that are attractive women. I have witnessed them check their mail. The get so many responses. The don't even read them all. They just look at the pic. Look attractive people want to date attractive people. I am more into a woman's personality and cute figure. Than the hottest girl.  | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 12:03:45 PM | I'm chuckling, because GuessWho must be living on a different planet from me. On *my* planet, it's the women who are on the dating sites for fun and egoboo, who don't cancel their profiles despite being in a relationship, etc, etc. I'd really like to know where the F:M ratio is 5:1, cuz I want to move there! On average, it's about 51:49 in North America, though maybe if we send a whole bunch more young men off to war then the ratio might shift further.
Funny how people can have such diametrically opposed experiences in the same world, isn't it? The rational conclusion is that we're both wrong...
The opposite of a correct statement is often another correct statement. Linguatic: we are both wrong, and both right.
Well, I am chuckling too, because Linguatic is not the only one, who accuses me from being from another planet. I get this response often, especially when I express my expectations of a monogamous, committed relationship. Well..
Before I Guess Who Phones Home for a Beam Up to the Planet of Zuk, she would like to point out the following: Linguatic is right to point out that the male to female ratio is about 51:49 in North America. However, as any statistically inclined person would realize, that 1 percent difference, based on large numbers is a LOT. Looking at a small sample, it is not that bad: 5.1 men and 4.9 women in a party of 10. However, if you look at the TOTAL population in a country like USA or Canada, 5.1 million men to 4.9 million women is a HUGE difference...it means, that there are roughly 1 million women, whom, by sheer law of availability, will never find Mr. Right.
Furthermore, my dear Linguatic (I assume, you are a man of words and you pay attention to their use) I was talking about the SINGLE and AVALIABLE men to SINGLE and AVAILABLE women ratio. Should you, like myself do a bit of research, you would too, find out, that on this planet, and especially on this continent, the statistics are even less favorable to females.
(By the way, the 5:1 ratio is in Alaska...good luck moving there)
I do have to apologize for generalizing male dating behavior though. I HAVE met a few good men (by the law of large numbers, I guess) who were very respectful, fun and interesting, and did not seem to be "all about sex" (You know who you are)
Also, I must admit, I do not date women, therefore, my knowledge of female dating styles and commitment ratio is rather limited. I also have to admit, that I AM on the site for fun, although not for egoboo (is that a word?). I do not have "expectations" of finding and choosing my mate from "He-Bay", I am here to expand my horizons and meet new people. As I was half bragging, half complaining about, in this regard, my experience with POF has met and exceeded my expectations.
Why else am I on POF? Men do not come up to women any more, with or without lame pick up lines, as they used to. It is impossible to meet eligible men in other venues. I do not blame them, because in a society where men and women love to sue each other for sexual harrassment, it is rather a brave act for a man to even "wink" at a woman in the real -as opposed to virtual- world. I do not blame the women either, I sympatize with their fears of Ax Murderers, Serial Killers, Players and Scam Artists, I had my own experience with those (OK, no Ax Murderers or Serial Killers, but you get my gist)
My point, and I have one is this: men, please do not except that just because you have shown interest, just because you have written a profile and/or an e-mail message, we are going to fall all over you, and into your arms. Women, please do not expect that just because there are 20 e-mails in your e-mail box, it is guaranteed, that you will find The Knight in Shining Armors (or Prosche). In life, there are no free lunches, and no guarantees. As far as love is concerned, ratio or no ratio, statistics or no statistics, Love tends to be both blind, and erratic in behavior. It will find you or it won't.
Nevertheless, I do agree, that sites scam people. There. Now you know.
Guess Who is From the Planet Zuk | |
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| Planet Zuk
Posted: 11/20/2005 12:47:59 PM | | Are there any good women on the planet Zuk?...... | |
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| Planet Zuk
Posted: 11/20/2005 12:58:27 PM | is it a scam or a service? I have never paid, but I love to see what adultfinder is all about.
I've here for a week or so. there are a few quirks in the interface that i am adjusting to, but its cool because its free. | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 1:19:36 PM | | obviously some sites send emails but i can tell they are generic flirts. they show a photo of some (in my case) hot chicks looking very seductive and there is no reasn they would say such stupid stuff in their message. | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 2:01:59 PM | | You got that right. These pay sites are scamming us by suckering us to join. I've signed up for free on some and then I recieve and e-mail or flirt and they want me tp pay to read them (Although Yahoo and Tangowire does not charge you to pay to read and/or respond to an e-mail). But when I try out a site that does, I usually drop my member ship and if they ask why I tell them why. | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 2:24:09 PM | | I belong to yahoo personals and now that I think about it, every time my subscription renews I get tons of winks and about 2 weeks after that I get maybe 1 response a month. Shame on yahoo. | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 3:55:18 PM | I will not pay.....
I'm in another dating site and have over 30 e-mails and i refuse to pay so there they sit and will stay...
Yahoo bites.....same with them u can't talk to anyone after the first icebreaker....sucks and stupid | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 4:03:11 PM | I agree totally...at first on match or lava i didn't catch it at first. Then letters and smiles, or winks from very attractive women when time was running out or credits were gone. I got conned big time.....none the less, they never responded to my letters...lol...what a sap i was. So when someone seems too good to be true or out of your league..they probably are...but alas, we cannot give up hope. Good luck of POL everyone!  | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 5:26:12 PM |
come to london... we need more women! Are you inviting? I could come, I have already saved up half of the 6000 pounds for the airline ticket and cost of establishing a household -including a computer for POF browsing, of course- there, and I love them Irish blokes. Send the remaining 3000 pounds, and I'll be there in a heartbeat...bringing a few of my girlfriends too, if you're paying. Do you have a Porsche? Do you look anything like The Prince of Whales? (No, not Charles..I'll live him to Whatshername)
JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
While I am in a kidding mood: it has been brought to my attention, that my definition of Athletic Body Type lacks accuracy. Yes, you're right, sumo wrestlers are athletes too. Besides, many make dating into a specator sport, and perhaps, they can be called athletes too. So, I take it back: it is possible to have a high body fat ratio, and still be Athletic.
Guess Who Stands Corrected | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 6:16:39 PM | I completely suggest www.MatchDoctor.com for someone as Handsome as you are. I am assured that you'll receive plenty of emails. I have used Matchdoctor.com for 4 years now. They cannot make the men so I do not blame them for losers or the not so perfect people on the site. *Use at your own risk* | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 6:25:06 PM | I have to comment here. You said "So when someone seems too good to be true or out of your league..they probably are."
You know, every time I start talking to a gentleman whom I find interesting, I hear the line "You're too good to be true" and I feel insulted because most assume that I don't know, I am lying or posting fake photos. I am always asked to send more pictures, I am asked for my email address to "verify" that I am not a bot, I guess.
I am upset...this makes me want to be a loser at first so guys know I am real, I am honest and I am loving. I have personality quirks just like everyone else, it doesn't make me "too good to be treu", Just good! (Okay, I was pushing it on the "good" part but I'm making a point.)
I am just looking for a long term commitment with someone who challenges me mentally and loves me completely. I think I am going to start posting pics of a toothless, over weight, cat lover in a thong as my main photo.
Signed ~Lonely in Florida | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 6:25:30 PM | You know...........I'm not a Fugly Troll, but I sure never get 30 e-mails per day.
And guys...........someone said that women don't initiate e-mail. I do. | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 6:48:45 PM | You know, I've been on both of those sites for years as a paying customer. Also, alt.com. I just happenned to read this post and yes, now that I think about it, I also got way too many no's and a couple of yes's. Also, at least once a mont I get a message from this gorgeous 25/30 yr old that is dying to meet me. I caught on to that one early. They want you to buy a pass, id tuype thing. I did one time, and I shit you not, the girl on the screen was a girl I had a picture of froma different site years earlier. F_ _ _ these people. WE ALL NEED TO TAKE A STAND, BOYCOTT BOTH OF THE SITES, AND MAKE A BUNDLE FOR THIS PLACE, THE ONLY TRULY HONEST ONE THAT WHEN THEY SAY FREE, IT ACTUALLY IS FREE. I've met more women on this site in a month than the other three put together. I think sites like alt.com actually pay women to write men. any way, I'd like to stay involved with this. Anyone know how to get the info?
John white designman1@cox.net | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 7:12:13 PM | Yes The same thing happened to me with Mate1 or you will see a picture of some great looking lady that lives near you you join to contact her an lo and behold you will never see that person on that site or they claim she's no longer a member. Geez less than a half hour ago she was himmmm....  | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 7:13:09 PM | I live in the Toronto area and todays paper mentioned yahoo and match being investigated for fraud.I have had much success with fish,probebly 18-20 ladies locally that I chat with.4-5 that have exchanged phone no.I have had some luck at Lava but I didn,t join.Send enough smiles and someone will email you.Bookofmatches is similar to fish but I could only find 3 local women in my age bracket | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 7:48:37 PM | yes, i have been or am the victim of a scam sites. i know of two singlesnet and love by net
that are total ripoffs. i will most likely become a member of one but not both.
why? because i am tired of dating and i want a comitted relationship.
i have a lot of luve to give to the right lady. but i am not selling out, i will allways fight the
corrupt powers that be. | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 8:20:39 PM | I would like to ad more news to the above topic. True.com, another dating service which charges for usage, has done me the same way. I subscribed to True...it advertised a free 7 day trial period. I input my profile and then when subscription payment came up, I was alarmed. I did not put in any credit info in this. I just closed the window. For the next 2 weeks, I received winks from about 150 men...I am sure they were not from them actually, but I did, nevertheless, get them. I finally contacted True.com by phone and they reluctantly took my profile off their site.
Sounds like the same situation to me.
April R. | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/20/2005 8:25:17 PM | Interestingly enough, I was a paying member of one paying service that bills itself as geared toward "spiritually" minded singles. Yet on two occasions, even after I had unsubscribed with them, I got emails from women half my age and in areas VERY distant from what I would want. And these women came on rather strong when I actually started chatting with them. The language barrier was also an issue making communication rather "challenging" to say the least. One was Nigerian and "supposedly" living somewhere in Wyoming. The other, a sexy looking Asian, claimed her close "friend" had just married somebody in Ohio but that she was living in West Africa with some relatives.
And yet I actually DID meet someone with that service living rather close by(while as a paying subscriber) and we went out for about two months. So go figure.................. | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/21/2005 2:12:34 AM | Amen to that, it's sickening how these sites try to sucker you into paying, only to find out there is nothing worth the money you've paid in.
I for one, would never again join a site that you had to pay to use. It's just not worth it | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/21/2005 3:58:31 AM | I would have to agree with this forum
I was enrolled on Othersingles and within the
1st week of signing up I received 5 email messages
from 5 absolute bomb shells. N I was like holy
poop this is awesome. However, after awhile wasn't going to
the website so i deleted my account. Then one night I was
bored resigned under a different email address and user name no
picture and again with in a 1st wk the honest to god the same
5 bomb shells message me....I SMELL A SCAM. | |
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| i'm curious
Posted: 11/21/2005 4:05:07 AM | | Hiya, I am curious what is Linux and how do you access it..excuse my ignorance? thanks Sunny | |
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| are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 11/21/2005 6:45:36 AM | Furthermore, my dear Linguatic (I assume, you are a man of words and you pay attention to their use) I was talking about the SINGLE and AVALIABLE men to SINGLE and AVAILABLE women ratio. Should you, like myself do a bit of research, you would too, find out, that on this planet, and especially on this continent, the statistics are even less favorable to females.
(By the way, the 5:1 ratio is in Alaska...good luck moving there)
Yes, you did say that, I noticed. But I don't know how to calculate the numbers of S&A people of both sexes, so I assumed that since polygamy is illegal (and, to the extent that there are "unofficial" poly relationships, they are more likely to involve multiple women rather than multiple men) the ratio of S&A women to S&A men should be nearly the same as the ratio of women to men in the general population. It's interesting to hear that there are so many single women in Alaska, I was under the impression it was completely the other way around.
This article claims that there are significantly more men than women in Alaska. What mechanism accounts for the fact that so many of those men are not "available"? Are they gay? Married to distant spouses? | |
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