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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 6/17/2008 2:54:45 AM | reality--
Of course it's a guy who doesn't believe my story. It was the same way when my other roomate and I used to tell our buddies about our roomate. They never believed it until they went out with the guy and saw how easily he picked up good looking women. The funny thing is, he didn't believe me either. I had to start counting them to convince him about how many women he had. My other roomate and I were giving him crap the day that he had three women in the same day and we guessed how many women he had brought into his room over nine months. I had a pretty good idea of how many there were. My room was right next to his, plus I stayed at home a lot during that time, so I fielded a lot of his calls. The three of us finally started counting and discussing all the girls. We came up with fifty and then I reminded him about the girls I saw him leave bars with, who never came to the house. Our final guess was somewhere around 55 women in 9 months and he slept wth all of them. If you factor in all the repeat performances that he gave, he basically had sex with about 5 different women every week and added about 1.4 new women every week to his little black book. Most of the women were in their mid to late twenties. It was very interesting to watch a true master player at work. We had a lot of discussions about how he worked his craft and what his women thought. I remember too many things to discuss here. One thing that used to make me laugh was a thing I called, "The turn around". Some girl would call, whom he hadn't called in a month or so. I would hear him on the phone saying, "Why didn't I call? I thought you didn't like me anymore". He would have them apologizing to him, because he didn't call, because he was too busy having sex with 3 women in one day or 6 in a week. Some women love jerks. I am sure of that. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 10:26:19 AM | I think your roomate sounds gross and dirty. My first thought about him would be testing. My second would be...how many people are you willling to sleep with to sleep with him? IT would be a fleeting one, possibly. I doubt I would think he is as hot as you seem to think but anyways...
This guy is going to get a disease if he doesn't have one already. There is nothing sexy about that. To treat his own body and someones else's so casually to treat others's feelings so poorly acting as if he were some kind of master player...he will be sorry later perhaps when he is alone and he only has memories and medication to keep him company. Not judging him but just saying.... He won't always be all" that" unless he takes better care of himslef and others. Maybe would be better for him to think of master of kharma rather then master player...don't be jealous..be grateful. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 12:40:18 PM | Mermaid, Bad boys get what they want, because women let them.
Yeah, this was a very long time ago, many years have gone by. I don't know where he is or what he is doing at this point. I never really envied him. I was actually in one of my celibacy modes that I have done over the years. So, I wasn't dating or having sex with anyone at that time. I was in one of my healing modes, spending time working on personal growth. I wasn't trying to learn anything from him about meeting women. I was more interested in examining the dynamics of attraction, animal magnetism, flirting and the whole "bad boy" thing and how it works. I had lengthy discussion with him about what he did and how it all worked. I never used any of what he told me. I'm far too open and honest to be like him. I reveal my flaws. I don't hide myself. I lay it all out there. He really knew what he was doing. He didn't just stand there and use his looks. There was a lot more to it than that. He had strategies. The whole thing was kind of a physchological game, with specific battle plans on how to meet women, get in close and get them into bed. One of his main philosophies was to give women just enough information about himself to keep them interested. Never reveal too much about yourself. Remain a mystery to them. Never show your flaws. Women want the man of their dreams and their fantasy man. If they don't know who you really are, they will fill in the blanks. They will see you as the fantasy man that they want you to be, because they don't know enough about you to realize that you are just a regular guy. They will leave the nice, regular guys, who treat them well, as they run off to chase their fanatasy, mystery man. They will eventually figure out that you are not prince charming, but by then you will have already had sex with them a bunch of times. He said he envied how easily I can talk to women and how honest and open and revealing I am with women, but he said, you'll never get laid with that approach. He is right in a way. My way leads to one on one relationships and strong friendships. His way lead to massive amounts of sex with just about any woman who caught his eye. Women should take note. Guys who are having scoring with large numbers of women like this guy was, it doesn't just happen by chance. They are running a game and it works almost perfectly and women eat it up. They love it! At least half of them knew he was a ladies man. They just had no idea how bad their bad boy really was. He was banging scores of women from at least six different cities. | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 6/17/2008 6:40:24 PM | | If what you say is true, I seriously doubt your roommate met his women though this site. 90% or more don't answer emails, and the vast majority bi**h about men liking sex so much. | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 6/17/2008 8:15:36 PM | 90% or more don't answer emails, and the vast majority bi**h about men liking sex so much.
He said he envied how easily I can talk to women and how honest and open and revealing I am with women, but he said, you'll never get laid with that approach. He is right in a way. My way leads to one on one relationships and strong friendships. His way lead to massive amounts of sex with just about any woman.
A huge percentage of the women on these dating sites are looking for a relationship. If your email leads them to believe that all you are after is scoring, they will not be interested. They are bi**ching because they do NOT want to date jerks.
I pity your ex roommate (and also despise him). He was basically using women instead of just masturbating. There was no emotional connection or deeper meaning to his actions, just selfish self gratification. The women might have felt "lucky" to have had him as a result of their delusional thinking, but they were just so much trash that he used and then tossed aside. How pathetic for all of them. He may have scored with a lot of women, but I believe that their kind is in the minority. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 8:44:17 PM | What were not here looking to score dates and a possible relationship?
Bugga whats the world comming to when men just want to get a piece?
Happy hunting folks!!! | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 6/18/2008 12:07:43 AM |
Why do women like Jerks
Because they taste good with some fava beans and a nice Chianti? | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 3:43:57 AM | Boomer girl,
I would like to think the women who go after guys like this are in the minority, because that means that they really want to meet guys like me. Sadly enough there were more than a few women who would walk up to me, to strike up conversations with me in order to ask me who my friend was.
I remember very clearly, one time we were at a beach and I started talking with these nice looking young women. We joked and laughed and talked and drank wine coolers for a couple hours. My roomate , Larry (The Player), talked a little bit, but mostly smiled and gave his little looks to the girls. When they left, he quickly said a couple of words and got a phone number. A week later he was out on a date with one of the girls. The other girl from the beach called the house. She was frantic that her friend had not called her back to check in. I calmed her down and told her that her friend was fine. (Larry wouldn't hurt her, he might make her sore, but he wouldn't hurt her). Anyway, when they returned home I told them about the phone call. Larry asked his date why she felt that she needed her friend to call and check up on her. She answered, "Well, I barely know you, for all I know you could be an axe murderer". Larry replied, "Then why did you go out with me?" The girl quickly pointed to me and said, "Because, I talked to him for hours and he was funny and he was a really nice guy." The moral of this story? A woman will date a good looking, bad boy, player and potential axe murderer, as long as he hangs out with nice guys, whom she would never date.  | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 10:41:36 AM | Amy: Your post here and your profile are a complete contradiction. From your post:
I met a guy on here. We dated for 4 months. He would drive an hour and a half to come and visit me several times a week. I was so captivated by him. When I looked into his eyes, It would make me feel butterflies like when I was a little kid! We did things, went out, he hung out with my kid, I really thought he was the answer I was looking for. Then abruptly, he decided he didnt want to see me anymore. I didnt contact him at all.
From your profile:
->As much as I enjoy being treated like a princess, I would like more then that, to be treated as an equal
So let's see if we have this straight: He did all of the 'work' in the relationship (all of the driving, entertaining the kid you had with another guy, ALL of the calling), yet your profile says you want to be an "equal"?
This is called a "bait and switch"... and you're wondering why he dumped you? I'm only wondering why he didn't dump you SOONER. | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 6/18/2008 8:40:16 PM | Larry replied, "Then why did you go out with me?" The girl quickly pointed to me and said, "Because, I talked to him for hours and he was funny and he was a really nice guy."
So the moral of that story is: If all of the NICE guys would quit hanging out with the JERKS, then all of the jerks would lose their credibility and be seen as the jerks they are. You, being a nice guy, were inadvertently helping his cause by being his roommate/friend.
The moral of this story? A woman will date a good looking, bad boy, player and potential axe murderer, as long as he hangs out with nice guys, whom she would never date
Thankfully, that is only true of SOME women......not ALL women. Some of us more mature gals have met the jerks, been burned by the jerks, and have perfected our "Jerk-Meter" to alert us when one is approaching our direction, so we can run as fast as we can the other way. 
It's usually young and stupid ones who go for guys like you are describing. They'll learn sooner or later and will have the scars to prove it.  | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 6/19/2008 7:14:45 PM | So the moral of that story is: If all of the NICE guys would quit hanging out with the JERKS, then all of the jerks would lose their credibility and be seen as the jerks they are. You, being a nice guy, were inadvertently helping his cause by being his roommate/friend.
Perfect moral to that story...caboomer girl you hit the nail on the head. | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 6/20/2008 2:03:33 AM | caboomergirl,
I think O.J. Simpson shows this "bad boy" attraction people have talked about here, in a very extreme form. I'm sure the jurors only reached their verdict after scrutinizing every fact with the most rigorous logic. Right. Still, quite a few attractive women must have agreed with them--he's kept company with a succession of them through the years since he was acquitted. And most of those women haven't been all that young.
Maybe they've all just been golfing partners. But if it was more than that, I could never understand how any of them could ever relax around a multiple murderer. Between those pairs of pretty ears there must have been pure air. Or maybe these women have thought they could never make him jealous enough to be dangerous. If so, that's a pretty risky bet. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 3:14:31 AM | | I gotta go with Nathan on this one boomer girl. That wouldn't work. Badboys don't need much help, because so many women want them, that the'll do fine on their own. Most of the time when I went out with my ex roomate, I was invisible anyway. My other roomate and I used to say, "Oh he wants us to go out with him? Wait, let's go get our invisble cloaks on". I got very use to women coming up and talking to me or buying me a drink, knowing full well they were just trying to get the low down on my ex roomate. I thought it was kind of rude, to kiss up and flirt with me just to meet my friend, so sometimes I played with them. I would stretch the conversation way out and keep redirecting it back to me and what I was all about, knowing full well they were just trying to ask about him. I figured hey, if women are going to flirt and speak with me just to meet my friend, they were going to have to work at using me. I didn't have to make it too easy. I would say something like, "Well if you buy me another drink, I'll tell you all about him". I was easily amused back in my celibate phase days. I had to do something with all that pent up energy. Having a room next to that guy every night was like living next to the Carnegie Hall of sex. There was basically an orchestra of finely tuned ooohs and aahhhs coming out of his room almost every night. I hated every minute of it. I could only stand to listen to it for ummm.... uhh... a few hours, before I would umm... go to sleep, yeah... that's it, I would just go right to sleep, uh huh, just right to sleep, that's what I did. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 11:53:49 AM | I can't find my post that you are agreeing with skyman.
It must have sprung a leak, and sunk to the bottom of the pond.
I think it was like this:
If all of the NICE guys would quit hanging out with the JERKS, then all of the jerks would lose their credibility and be seen as the jerks they are.
So the ladies will stop coming onto the bad boy/jerks, because he doesn't have a wing man?
Yeah.
That will work.
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Posted: 6/20/2008 12:30:01 PM | | Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw a post that questioned the dubious notion that us nice guys are somehow enablers and if we would stop hanging out with jerks, women wouldn't fall for them games anymore. It was good to see that somebody else thought that idea was full of holes, but the post disappeared. I don't hang out with guys like that anymore. That was a long time ago . I'm sure that as soon as he moved away and I lost contact with him, he immediately stopped meeting women, because women are only attracted to bad boys who have nice friends, right? Ha ha! My story about meeting those women at the beach was an isolated incident. My exroomate didn't have sex with 55 women in nine months, because I was such a nice guy, wing man. I'm pretty sure it was his good looks and his "I want to F*** you right now ", vibe that he was constantly putting out, that did the trick. If nice guys had the power to schmooze scores of women into sleeping with his friends, don't you think that even a nice guy would be tempted to harness such a power and use it on himself once in a while? After all, we are only human. | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 6/20/2008 12:38:41 PM | There is an old saying about there being two types of men: Those that you date, and those that you marry.
It can be very hard on the type of man that you would marry while he is waiting for you to dummy up and appreciate that "boring" but real and substantive is infinitely more workable and rewarding in the long run, than "exciting" and immature and self-centered.
When my brother was drinking, he married 5 times. What did Mrs. #5 think she could do that Mrs. #4, or #3, or #2 couldn't? If men love the chase, women love the taming.
Way too many women think that all the "good ones" are already taken or are few and far between. I would suggest that the next time that these women look, they would do well to learn to truly see. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 1:44:27 PM | I think women like men who are jerks to a certain point and then in the end really want to settle down with guys who are just decent in the end.
There is something in all of us that wants to see if we might be THE ONE that turns the situation around. | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 6/20/2008 1:50:38 PM |
When my brother was drinking, he married 5 times. What did Mrs. #5 think she could do that Mrs. #4, or #3, or #2 couldn't? If men love the chase, women love the taming.
Way too many women think that all the "good ones" are already taken or are few and far between. I would suggest that the next time that these women look, they would do well to learn to truly see.
There IS a good reason for this.
By saying 'all the good ones are taken' they can continue to be 'above it all' and justify being single. It they were to admit that there are lots of good men still available (which there are), they would have to admit to themselves they've either failed to attract them or admit to themselved that they're making terrible self destructive choices in men.
Every woman will tell you they would never date an alcoholic or violent man, yet every alcoholic and violent person I know has at least one woman dating him exclusively, some with extras on the side. Men today really have to understand that what women say they want has NO basis in reality or their real life choices.
BTW, do you know who the most sought-after man is in California? Scott Peterson, the guy who cheated on his wife, then murdered her while she was 8 months pregnant, throwing her body into the bay where her body and (separately) her fetus eventually washed up on shore. The prison had a hard time dealing with the mail he was getting from women, many of them begging to marry him. This reveals a great deal about what is really important to women, and what is not. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 2:32:47 PM | I think co-dependency and taming are perhaps the best excuses for hanging with the raunchies.
There's plenty of tee-tolling, bible-thumping, backroom poking "good guys" fooling a lot of people out there.
Unfortunately for the ones with alcohol or drug problems, they stick out like a sore honest thumb. They also are the most convenient to beat up on and provide those "good guys" out there a good and decent smoke screen at the same time...
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Posted: 6/20/2008 4:56:20 PM | | I'm going to cut the women a little slack here, because I have to admit that I was very physically attracted to my both of my exwives and I didn't really slow down to see how they were on the inside. Now I would not classify them as bad girls, but they had self esteem issues that lead them to seeking attention from other men. One of them even had even done it in the past to someone else. So, I can understand being so attracted by the physical chemistry you have with a person, that you're willing to overlook a huge red flag and believe someone when they cry and say they've learned from their past mistakes. I guess what I'm saying is, that guys also chase after women they are highly attracted to and fail to see that those women are really bad for them. I try very hard not to do that now. As I get older, I find that the old date killer, "She's got a great personality" is becoming more and more attractive to me. Both of my exes were pretty attractive women and I used to hear that line from guys, "How did you get her?" I've met some women who weren't as attractive as my exes in the classical sense, but to me they were so much more beautiful on the inside that overall they were very pretty to me. I wouldn't hesitate to date a woman whom I thought to be moderately attractive or plain, who made me laugh my butt off, instead of some stunning woman who didn't have a whole lot to say. I wouldn't even have to think about it, because I know, the more I'm around someone I have a great connection with , the better they will look to me as time goes by. | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 6/21/2008 6:16:54 PM |
I''m going to cut the women a little slack here, because I have to admit that I was very physically attracted to my both of my exwives and I didn't really slow down to see how they were on the inside
Looks like you were thinking with the wrong head. | |
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Posted: 6/21/2008 7:13:56 PM | | Please Calif, not all of thought with the lil head.... well okay i admit i did it once or twice. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 1:57:18 AM | | I don't buy into the whole, thinking with the little head thing. It's not quite that simple. Usually I am captured by a pretty face, a woman with a beautiful smile, a beautiful face, pretty eyes and beautiful lips. I'm not thinking "Man, I want to bang her" or anything so directtly connected to the little head. It's more like , My God she's beautiful. I would love to kiss those lips and look into those eyes. Then maybe later at some point, after we get close to each other and start making out, that's where the little head kicks in and I transition to, "Man I want to bang her!" I know that is a subtle difference to a woman, but to me, it's a big difference. | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 11:00:07 AM | | It all starts out so romantic and sweet and then seems the transition is a bit harsh. When your transitioning do you tell the women you want to bang her?? Or is it just a mental thought? I am thinking the difference is not so subtle...last I checked I am a woman. | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 11:58:36 AM | | I was talking about the difference between women thinking that guys are completely lead around by their members and don't have the slightest romantic or tender thoughts in their heads . I was comparing that idea to the times in my life that I did follow my member. I was suggesting that it isn't quite as simple as thinking with the little head right from the start. There could be romance and tenderness and affection at first, even when the situation was more of a physical attraction, but at some point the litte head takes over and that's usually when I end up seeing the wrong person. I'm saying there is a subtle difference between mindlessly following you sexual impulses and having romantic, affectionate feelings that give way to mindlessly following your impulses. Although both ways lead to poor decision making . I just don't think it's fair to say that guys blindly follow their little heads, when it may not start out that way. I think many women are guilty of making the same mistake at times. They are very physically attracted to a man. There is romance, but it's mostly a physical attraction, then they try to build a relationship out of that and it doesn't work. No, I never tell women I want to bang them, but the few times in my life when I wasn't looking for a relationship, I always made that clear to a woman before I did anything with her. I have made love to women and I have banged women. I think people who claim never to have done both are basically full of it or they are fooling themselves. At least I'm honest about it. | |
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