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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 7/8/2006 9:49:28 AM | | I can dig it bro but one cannot blame all divorces on the guy being the jerk/bad boy/player. Many issues come into play concerning failed marriages and relationships in general........ | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 7/8/2006 10:11:21 AM | Since joining on here at Plenty of Fish, I've sent out only a few pieces of mail, but I would classify my notes as either really nice notes that i'd think i'd like to recieve if i was a woman or i've sent a few where i'd have to say that if i was the recipient i'd say 'that guy looks like a jerk'. Well, which do you think got more responses? Yep. the jerky ones. And to boot, the notes back have been interested and leaving it open for response too!
Come on girls! Get some esteeme! And not only that, if you WANT a jerk, don't put in your profile 'looking for a nice guy', but rather be honest. OR, if on the other hand, you want a 'nice guy', well then oh gosh darn it, you better not freeze up when you're presented with one. | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 7/8/2006 3:30:15 PM | Here is the thing that men don't get... Jerks are the one that ruin it for the rest of you.
Jerks do one thing well however. They have the self confidence to ask women out. Women go out with the men that ask us out. We don't seek out jerks. They just ask us and it takes a while to sniff out a jerk. They don't just walk up and say... "Hi, I am a jerk, want to come out with me so I can treat you like crap?"
I am sorry this seems to all fall on men, but try as we might a woman who asks a man out, will probably be told no, and thought of as too aggressive. You are going to have to do it. Consider it a trade off for us carrying the lion's share of the birth control responsibilities. At least here, you don't have to be rejected in person and you can cast a wide net.
Men, do you know a jerk? I bet you do. I bet even one of your friends goes through women like they are water and treats them like trash. What do you say to your friend? Is it "Gosh, why do you act like that?" Or is it, "Man, you get laid a lot, wish I could?" Why not confront the jerks and cease to give them the support of your friendship?
One thing women do right, is get on each other for behaving badly. We are very hard on our own gender. If a woman behaves like some of the men, we call her out, and usually you will find women that behave badly do not have a lot of female friends. We don't trust women like that, nor do we want to leave them in a room with our significant others.
I offer this as advice to men here, that are actually nice guys and want to find a nice woman.
a) Don't send a message that says: "Hey good looking" and nothing else. Send us a nice, heartfult note that respects her, and tell her something real. Don't expect that a compliment is going to be all we need to hear. We can get that anywhere. Read the profile. See if you have anything in common and write about that if you can't think of anything else.
b) If you want a nice woman, don't include a picture of your car. We do like photos with your kids, your dog, your cat. Also, try to exclude pictures of yourself with a big dead fish you just caught. We all know you like to fish, most of us could not care less about fishing and are happy to let you do the fishing.
c) Do not send us your phone number in the first e-mail. Only women with no sense of self preservation are going to call a complete stranger.
d) Do not e-mail and ask for more pictures immediately. This is only futher confirmation of what we already suspect about men... that you are shallow fiend that only care about what we look like.
e) If by some chance you actually get to have an IM chat with a woman, regardless of how attractive you find her, do try not to tell her what you want to do to her. Save it for your spank bank. The kind of woman that responds to this, very likely has a venereal disease. Actually talk to her and find out who she is.
f) Try not to lie. | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 7/8/2006 3:52:27 PM | I blame it on guys who are jerks and women who are naive and spoiled.
Both are equally superficial, so how can anything real come from that? | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/8/2006 8:34:52 PM | | OK heres what i have to say about bad "BOYS" VS. good "MEN.Note the key words there.You guya re right...some women mistake ARROGANCE for confidence.And alot of times they say it wasnt obvious the guy was a jerk, but usually its VERY obvious.There is nothing manly abuot being a bad boy, and ive never EVER wanted to be one...even though ive embarrassed a few of them in front of the women they were trying to impress.ANd as far as most guys being under 5'7...who gives a rats ass how tall the guy is>And no I never go for the Pam Anderson Barbi doll types...cause I have no respect for most of them.Does being NIce make a gy a wuss?No it doesnt.It takes a big man to treat a woman right.I mean. how tough do you have to be to push a woman around?By the way...im 6 ft tall and 200 lbs..so why do I hate bad boys?Because they are wusses thats why?and they give men a bad name..am i jealous of them?Why be jealous of someone whos half the man you are? | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/8/2006 9:18:22 PM | | i notice they all say ME EX WAS A JERK...even those women go for the jerks FIRST, and when the truth comes out...they were usually with them for years...so much for not KNOWING he was a jerk | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/8/2006 9:31:52 PM | It's a mathematical conclusion:
-Women date men.
-All men are jerks.
Therefore, women like jerks.
Ok Ok...just lightening it up a bit around here. Relax...not a man hater. :-) | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/8/2006 9:39:14 PM | Here is the thing that women don't get... Jerks are very obvious, and the posts from most women here,including momanatrix...prove that
They have the self confidence to ask women out??Only because they already KNOw being an ***hole...well..IT WORKS!!! Women dont go out with the men that ask them out, thats why women dont ask men out, because they know the guy they want(the jerk off)will eventually come along
I am sorry , but a woman who asks a man out, will not be told no, nor thought of as too aggressive.women think men should ALWAYS ask them out, thats why they go out dressed like they do.And a guy who appreciates a woman as is nice to her, will appreciate being asked out.Right there is one way to avoid the jerks (If you really want to)
When we see a guy who gets alot of women, we talk to the women and ask them, why degrade yourself with him?you are much better than that.Then they call US a jerk...so therefore they WANT the ***hole type.And yes we confront him and tell him hes an ***hole.But what does he say?He says I know..and if I treated them right.they wouldnt talk to me ( and hes right!!!)So yes they Do seek out bad boys
I was once told BY A FEMALE, the reason females dont trust each other,, is they stab each other in the back...ANd becuase they all know they treat good guys like crap...and go for the ***holes...who really ARE obvious jerks right from the beginning
ADVICE FOR WOMEN WHO CLAIM TO WANT A REAL MAN (bad boys are just that BOYS!!!!)
A. If a guy says: "Hey good looking" , hes probably been rejecte dby a ton of women, and is sick of it..thats why hes not saying a whole lot. Be the first one to show some brains and don't reject him... No reason You shouldnt put JUST as much effort as he has...remember hes been rejected ALOT MORE than you.
B. If you want a nice guy,appracite the ones that are nice.Dont use the worn out excuse "HE WAS TOO NICE< It scared me off"Thats the worlds Biggest lie.What did you think he was hiding?That he was Actually a jerk?Thats what you wanted , anyway wasnt it?
C. If a guy send you his phone number in the first e-mail hes trusting you, and that should be a compliment, and its His number, so you know hes not married and cheating more than likely.A women with sense of self preservation will be more comfortable with that, than meeting in person.Plus some of us were in IRAQ and have wounds that make typing, Physically impossible...so dont ASSUME!!!
D. Do not assume badly of a guy who asks for more pictures immediately. This is NOT futher confirmation of what you say you already suspect about men... there are alot of game playing lying women who send fake pics , and usualyl she will only have ONE pic, if its fake.
Plus if you want US to send more pics I.E. at work, playing with our kids,, then how can it be BAD for us to ask the same?
E. If by some chance you actually get to have an IM chat with a man, regardless of how attractive you think most men find you, do try act like that.its very unappealing to a nice guy, remember we want a woman who is more than just a pair of breasts.
F. The guy who gets alot of women,, everyone knows hes a jerk...so saying you didnt know...no ones falling for that
G. The guy that cant seem to get a date...GO TALK TO HIM!!!!
H. Remember, if you and a nice guy meet...YOu are the lucky one!!! | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/8/2006 10:02:40 PM | you know what? you need some serious f---in help. even though you make one or two points, after finally finishing your lenthy ramblling, self serving text. you really dont know a dam thing about woman. i have a petty good idea, by vertue of personal experiance, what women want in a man. but the last thing i would do is tell someone like you. that is unless you
provide proof that you attend professional counseling. | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/8/2006 10:51:42 PM | | Well says alot about a guy who has to come on hre and cuss me out...in order to be the BAD BOY and get the women who go for that | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/8/2006 11:00:25 PM | OK here are some very good points to realize...itll piss some people off..but only the people who are jerks.
1 bad boys dont pretend to be nice...why would they?being nice never gets a guy anywhere.
2.Of all you nice guys on here..how many of these women have messaged you personally..after saying they want a nice guy?
3.The people who get more fan mail than rock stars, actors, sports stars, and all of that, are VIOLENT prisoners.I have friend that are correctional Officers, and they say its unbelievable how much female Fan mail, rapists and murderers get.kind of creepy there
4.Whenever a woman says MY EX used to be a niceguy, its usually followed by "I was with him for 7, 8 ,9 years (nuff said)
5. If women really wanted a guy with confidence, but not an ***hole...they wuldnt go out of their way to GIVE ***holes confidence, and go after them
6. As weve all said before if women didnt SEEK OUT bad boys...they wouldnt be BAD BOYS
7. When they say , "They seem like nice guys , at first, but then the REAL ***hole comes out", chances are he really WAS a nice guy, a genuine nice guy, not pretending to be.But this goit him nowhere, she never wanted to talk to him, didnt return his calls, gave him the "CAN WE BE FRIENDS" kiss of death.Then when he finally got sick of this BS..he lost all respect for her...started treatin HER like crap...talkin down to her, flaking out on dates...SUDDENLY she was all over him.And when that didnt work out, she says "HE PRETENDED TO BE NICE"
Plus, i just got an email from a woman who says shes tired of jerks, and she doesnt want a nice guy.I emailed her saying ALL MEN arent jerks, And some of us dont take crap off the bad boys, and we put them in their place..I told her Id love to tlak to her sometime.Her response was "If you insist" So much for them wanting the nice guys | |
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| Think Cavemen....
Posted: 10/8/2006 11:27:56 PM | | Well Christina...A guy who is JERK...couldnt dominate his sock drawer...let alone anything else.Thats why he can only stand up to a woman...and treat them bad...cause a real man will break his jaw.Anyway I tried to message you but Im over 75 Miles away(not by much) so i guess this is another time when distance means more than the fact there are a crap load of us out here who treat women right | |
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| Think Cavemen....
Posted: 10/8/2006 11:30:40 PM | | RIGHT ON!!!You said it BRO....hell even the girls that bail the guy out of jail after he beat the crap out of her...are pulling that "I DIDNT KNOW HE WAS A JERK" crap, which we all know is a lie.,especially when its the 5th or 6th time.and how many great guys did she reject for him? | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/8/2006 11:31:28 PM | | if youre not a man hater...then why were you rude to me when i mailed you and said there are SOME MEn who will put bad boys in their place?I wasnt a jerk in that email at all | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/8/2006 11:36:42 PM | Wow armyguy....you sure can type...
Anyways, armyguy brings up some good points and some other points which i think are ridiculous but I think its a bit more complex than what he typed (if thats possible)...
The bottom line is, women like jerks because jerks are confident. They are confident in how they walk, talk, approach women..basically everything concerning picking up women. The reason why being a jerk works is because the jerks dont care if the woman is turned off by them, there are a million others who like that.
Also (and i know women are going to say im wrong but...) women want what other women want. I have a friend, and this guy is maybe 5'10-5'11 and maybe 225 pounds...a hefty guy. Every friend I have whos female says this guy is not attractive, yet this guy goes to the club and brings home a different girl every night. So out of curiosity I decided to go with him one time and I cant tell you how embarrassed i was. This guy was going up to girls on the dance floor and just grabbin and grindin and well...youve all been to clubs, you know what i mean. And sure enough, one woman started dancing with him and then her friend turned around and started grinding on him and before you know it, 5 or 6 women are all over him. It's like a competition or something. I didnt try it, but i guarantee if i went up to any of those women and politely asked if they wanted to dance, i'd get the brush off.
Anyways, its some weird hormonal thing, but in the end, the nice women end up with the nice guys, and those are the ones who live long happy lives together. The ones who go home with my chunky friend, are the ones who get divorced after 2 years  | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/8/2006 11:45:25 PM | | OK OK so im no typist sue me lol.Like I said before...i have wounds from IRAQ that make typing difficult.Anyway i know what you mean...Ive seen guys like that too, the nasty smelly fat guy who has women all over him, and I dont know about your buddy, but most of the time the fact they are a jerk, is actualyl very very obvious right from the start they MISTAKE being an ***hole...for confidence.Trust me Im anything but inconfident.I just dont play the bad boy games.Hell Im confident enough to call a bad boy on his BS, but thats just me | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/8/2006 11:49:39 PM | | lol i wasnt making fun of your typing, i meant you are long winded. You could publish your posts and sell them as novels. lol cya | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/9/2006 2:40:40 AM | | Ever otice when a single woman tells a guy "oh youre so great...any woman would be lucky to have you" she never goes for him herself? | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/9/2006 4:59:30 AM | | You got that right.... its very simple...two guys can walk into any bar anywhere in the USA... they both look similar(hell maybe they are even twins)...not very different ata ll.One can be an OBVIOUS BLATANT JERK, not hide it at all.Be rude to people...be obnoxious...even admit he has no respect for women.The other guy can walk up to a woman, smile at her, be genuinely nice and say Hi would you like to dance.We all know which guy will get more attention from the ladies...and its not the nice one | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/9/2006 11:43:40 AM | sadly enough ... there aren't that many "good nice guys" left ... not much to choose from   | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/9/2006 1:39:52 PM | | There's a lot of self-denial on both sides in this discussion. And some hostility. I suspect a lot of so-called "nice" guys are not all that nice; by the same token, I also suspect that a lot of women say they may not go for "jerks" but if you asked them to make a list of all the men they've had relationships with you'd probaby see a pattern which would suggest otherwise. Interestingly, both sides also seem to see themselves as victims in some way. Personally, I guess I've been fortunate, because for the most part I've only been a victim of my own self-deception. Fascinating discussion! | |
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| Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 10/9/2006 3:08:33 PM | | You are 100% right about the masculine and forceful being attractive. If there were nice guys who were also masculine and forceful at appropriate times that would be an awesome combination. | |
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