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 momvon
Joined: 9/21/2005
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Vixen- I so like your style! But just remember fellas both sexes can shop the meat market these days! But if your looking for more substance, try the library instead,lol
 Bikeman_
Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 27
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:35:37 AM
§Vixen§:
Just curious. Do you guys read our whole profiles or just the parts that you want to see. I get emails all of the time from guys that don't seem to have read through mine. Do you think that you're the one that's going to change my mind on what i'm looking for? I mean if you're that wonderful then hey, I'm game! I think I have made my wants clear. Why do you email anyway?

I don't know what other guys are doing here at POF. I haven't e-mailed one in the month I've been here at POF. Therefore, I'll speak for myself.
Yes I when I look at a lady's profile, I read the whole profile, even the long-winded ones.
Can't speak for the men who sent you mail convincing you to change your dating criteria.
I e-mail women who I sincerely want to know more information about. Open the lines of communication.


scarlett_66:
I get that sometimes too...and email stating how much we have in common when in fact there is NOTHING we have in common...lol

Not everyone has got gobs of personal data listed. It's possible that the dude feels he has something in common with you, but just hasn't expressed exactly what that is. That's is his fault and loss due to his lack of communication skills. For instance, if I e-mail you Scarlett and say we have a common interest in hockey (I LOVE watching hockey go Flyers!), but that's not in my profile, do you think I'm just giving you a line?


momvon:
Ladies, Do you think most of them can get to the reading thing? I feel like they look at the pic and have no clue what my profile says, almost like it is too much effort for the poor dears,lol.

Momvon, I do get past the pictures, thank you. What's it like where you live? I've been there once, you're out in the middle of nowhere like an oasis. By the way, fix your jumping smilie,lol.
 Simlasa
Joined: 10/30/2004
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:37:22 AM
I read the profiles... but a lot of them add up to nothing... the same interchangeable list of desired traits... 'honest, gentleman, not into games'... leaving the picture as the only thing to set the person off from hundreds of others. Even with a nice picture an ordinary profile is a waste of bait.

Not like my profile is great, but I'm not looking to get matched up... and I don't write to people much.
 arcticcat le
Joined: 10/25/2005
Msg: 29
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:42:50 AM
I've only been here for a few weeks, but I always read the profile, I'm not going to waste my time e-mailing someone I have nothing in common with, and I'm not going to waste anyone else's time.
I can't say I've had the greatest luck, going about it the way I do, but I don't see the point of being dishonest, with someone I may or may not want to get to know, nothing like starting a relationship and or friendship with lies.
 Sonotafish
Joined: 10/30/2005
Msg: 30
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:43:10 AM
Actually Bike Man I was leaning more towards quite huge issues like children and such...
If a man emails me (and I always read his profile in it's entirety before I respond) and his profile states he doesn't want children or wants his own family somewhere down the road..or something of that nature then how can I assume anything else than the fact he hasn't really read mine and maybe only skimmed or stopped at the pic?
 §Vixen§
Joined: 10/20/2005
Msg: 31
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:43:36 AM
Thanks momvon. I'm finding out very quickly that a lot of the men here really don't have much substance. No offense to the guys that do. I've been doing the online dating thing off and on for a few years now and they're about all the same. A lot of these guys are looking for the stereo typical blond haired, blue eyed, bombshell. I don't think they're going to find that here. I just believe that lightening could strike and maybe there is someone sincere out there that I could connect with. My expectations weren't that high coming in this thing so it's not much of a let down what I'm seeing.
Vixen
 HB2
Joined: 5/11/2005
Msg: 32
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:43:40 AM
I have found very few even notice what I have in my profile...

That's why it's all nonsense
 CountIbli
Joined: 6/1/2005
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:43:59 AM
Just look at this from a man's perspective. Despite what the owners/moderators say any given demographic will have at least 4-5 guys for every woman. Guys also tend to be the initiators. As a result women generally get tons of messages from guys. This is great for women, but for guys we'll commonly see unread/deleted. If you're especially lucky you'll get a read/deleted. The unfavorable ratio combined with the unread/deleted filter means we pretty much have to use the shotgun approach. Message a lot of ladies and hope that you get a couple hits. This is time consuming which means we can't read every profile (especially the novels) and write messages that touch upon everything we have in common.

There is some good news in here for guys. We can look at your picture and know right away if we want to have sex with you. This may not be the only thing we want, but no man never wants to have sex. It's going to come up eventually, even if it is only after marriage, or after you've fallen in love. We're also pretty forgiving about differences we have in interests and world views. And as the other poster said profiles may not be entirely honest or candid. On the flip side there are the profiles that don't really say anything about you (e.g. "I like to have fun," well who doesn't?). What you say in your profile doesn't much matter in the grand scheme.
 momvon
Joined: 9/21/2005
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:44:13 AM
Bike man-" I do get past the pictures, thank you. What's it like where you live? I've been there once, you're out in the middle of nowhere like an oasis. By the way, fix your jumping smilie,lol."
I still am puzzled about what happened there, sorry. Nice to know some guys are reading it, I put some thought into it... And yes indeed it is an oasis especially if seeking a mate....Might have to get off the mountain to meet one and hope he can re-locate. The nights are starting to get colder and a snuggle buddy would be soooo nice, lol.
 §Vixen§
Joined: 10/20/2005
Msg: 35
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:45:51 AM
I think scarlett just made my point for me on this whole topic. Thanks!

Vixen
 KinkyCapitalist
Joined: 11/2/2005
Msg: 36
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:48:50 AM
Depends! Some of us can read while others buy Playboy for the Cartoons. You seem to believe that your desires matter to most of us. We answer at 5 foot when you request 6 foot because we like your boobs.

I thought yuou knew this stuff. Didn't your mother teach you anything, girl?
 Sonotafish
Joined: 10/30/2005
Msg: 37
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:50:11 AM
Anytime sweetie..
 arc_angel
Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 38
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:53:45 AM
I believe there is way too many generalizations made here....

Both Genders have a lot of positives to show....

Both Genders if they find some common ground will write.... even if their is one item that does not match....

We all think we are special and can convince others of that... when we don't there is frustration at both ends.....

The real world and the web are numbers games...

Alot of guys will email vast numbers of ladies to increase the odds (they just want dates)... because it still is sort of a rule men should approach.... although there is the rare exceptions....

Personally I am more selective, I read the whole profile, I email very few, and enjoy receiving mail even if I don't think there is a match....

There are alot of positives if you choose to see them... or you can choose to see the starving kids in Africa.... perception is everything...
 toohotornot
Joined: 10/30/2005
Msg: 39
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:54:02 AM
Being from Australia its nice to be able to chat with someone from afar! and well a profile is just a profile, geting to know someone, now thats a challange
 arri
Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 40
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Posted: 11/5/2005 8:58:49 AM
Another thing .. a lot of women complain about mass emails … what about the canned profiles?

Out of every 10 female profiles, 5 or 6 of them sound exactly the same. And the long winded ones are just a total turn off.
 JohnnyAngel
Joined: 8/19/2005
Msg: 41
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Posted: 11/5/2005 9:01:32 AM
I read the Whole Profile I fine it's better to take that extra time. and i know there is some honest people out there that our sincere about what they write on there profiles
 HB2
Joined: 5/11/2005
Msg: 42
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Posted: 11/5/2005 9:15:38 AM
My profile is changed on a fairly regular basis as my life changes and depending on my mood...

Amazingly it's when I'm being ****y that I get the most positive responses...
 nicemale
Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 43
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Posted: 11/5/2005 9:15:54 AM
I read it .... look for the pictures.... and may date you if its possible...
On the date I know everything is different...
I generally dont belive in words and pictures. I like real things in live.
 OnTheBus
Joined: 9/12/2004
Msg: 44
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Posted: 11/5/2005 9:19:04 AM
nope, we dont read em, they are all same the same stuff OR they are flat out funny.

After I am friends with someone I read their profile, but at first I dont bother.

The real personality shows up in the forums and even then it matters not until you meet in person.

So, go ahead and tell us all who you DONT want to meet, we dont care.
 Bikeman_
Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 45
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Posted: 11/5/2005 9:21:15 AM

CountIbli:
Just look at this from a man's perspective. Despite what the owners/moderators say any given demographic will have at least 4-5 guys for every woman. Guys also tend to be the initiators. As a result women generally get tons of messages from guys. This is great for women, but for guys we'll commonly see unread/deleted. If you're especially lucky you'll get a read/deleted. The unfavorable ratio combined with the unread/deleted filter means we pretty much have to use the shotgun approach. Message a lot of ladies and hope that you get a couple hits. This is time consuming which means we can't read every profile (especially the novels) and write messages that touch upon everything we have in common.

Ladies, there is much truth in what Count said. It's tough when you spend 20 minutes typing a carefully crafted message only to get unread/deleted. Say I find 10 women who interest me. That's 3 1/2 hours of typing practice, I'd rather be doing almost anything else. A guy like me gets like a 1:20 hit ratio of starting a correspondence, if I'm lucky, and then that correspondence is most likely to lead nowhere. Not complaining; I much prefer the real dating world instead of this internet driven approach, I'm here 95% of the time now for the forums.
 HB2
Joined: 5/11/2005
Msg: 46
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Posted: 11/5/2005 9:23:13 AM
I like it when you get someone on the phone and it ends up in a giggle session
 rainbow_fish
Joined: 8/2/2005
Msg: 47
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Posted: 11/5/2005 9:31:13 AM
I think they are getting better at reading them...
but often they will write to a woman because they feel despite
her saying she would not be interested in someone like him,
he feels she will like him anyway
 arri
Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 48
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Posted: 11/5/2005 9:33:51 AM
And sometimes .. they write just do to see if she writes back

and if she does ... no replies
 Bikeman_
Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 49
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Posted: 11/5/2005 9:37:42 AM

scarlett_66:
If a man emails me (and I always read his profile in it's entirety before I respond) and his profile states he doesn't want children or wants his own family somewhere down the road..or something of that nature then how can I assume anything else than the fact he hasn't really read mine and maybe only skimmed or stopped at the pic?

Good point, if a dude indicates "wants children" and e-mails you, that dude is guilty of not reading your profile, or just e-mailed you because you are pretty.

But maybe "doesn't want children" means "doesn't want more children", not "I can't date a woman who is raising children". This gets easily misinterpreted. I say "open/undecided", that doesn't mean "I don't want children", it means "Chemistry is paramount, if my someone special didn't want kids, I'd feel no loss in my life not having fathered children. And if you wanted to have kids, that's fine with me, but our relationship always comes first and foremost with me." There's no checkbox for that!
 Garf
Joined: 4/4/2005
Msg: 50
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Posted: 11/5/2005 9:38:22 AM

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