| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 11/8/2005 8:06:58 AM | I so agree nice guys finish last. I high schol woman want the bad boy, early 20's same thing woman want to tame that bad boy like its a challenge and maybe in the 30's also.
To be honest I had to adapt the bad boy look and attitude just to meet some woman, and then they realize how nice I am and have made alot of nice people. I just have to find the chemistry, or friends close by | |
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Carri3
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 11/8/2005 8:19:01 AM |
To be honest I had to adapt the bad boy look and attitude just to meet some woman, and then they realize how nice I am and have made alot of nice people. I just have to find the chemistry, or friends close by
habbier, you changed who you are, so how can someone get to know you and want to be with you sincerely if you wont just be yourself? adapting with a certain look and attitude just attracts what you feel is something real but in the end will only backfire on you. If you have to go to that extreme to get someone to be attracted to you, then is it really worth it? Are YOU really happy since you're not being really you?
The problem with the "nice guys finish last" issue, in my eyes, is this.. some of you are super duper nice. You all sit back and lack some self confidence. If you are nice, feel good about it dammit! Step up and be proud to be the nice guy! Women like the nice guys, but they also seek confidence. Most of you are shy or scared to take a step into unchartered waters, so you sit on your butts in a corner watching the other guys jumping in and having a good time meeting people. Since you're out here on a dating site, just give it a try. Don't change your image or attitude, just try to have a little confidence that you're a great guy and any woman will only be so lucky to be with you. | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 11/8/2005 9:48:07 AM | i never try to be someone im not
im a nice guy who is single 6 yrs then i see a** hole men get the women
but life goes on | |
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Carri3
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Joined: 7/18/2005
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 11/8/2005 11:02:43 AM | | jet i was talking about you too, and so many other good guys that sit on their asses and not mingle! lol. get your butt on that dance floor and show the girls what you got! They dont know you guys are around if you sit in the background hiding and watching! | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 11/8/2005 3:15:50 PM | at the auction ,,, i will dance ,lol ,,
mon chi chi (meaning me) is actually a good guy ,, i just like having the edge | |
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Carri3
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Joined: 7/18/2005
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 11/8/2005 3:19:23 PM | lol that name growing on you now?  that means "little monkey" in my language.. haha
You'll have fun at that party mon chi chi, you'll have to get some pictures of you with all the women hanging off of you  | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/6/2008 8:42:22 AM | | "I have no idea what the real "nice guy" definition would be...but I would hardly think "weak" would be in the term." I would hardly think "weak" would be in the term either. I think we confuse "nice guy" with being "really nice". Personally, when I refer to someone being a "nice guy", I'm referring to a man who has a strong sense of self...someone who acts with integrity and sets clear emotional boundaries and someone who protects that which he cares about. Just my definition of a "nice guy". | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/25/2008 2:05:46 AM | WOW, this nice guy story that started this post makes me want to throw up, anyone with me on this?
sure nice guys care about their women friends, and the women suck it up endlessly, but will they help out the nice guy with what every man on the planet wants most, oh no, they are nice girls
and i am not talking about buy you dinner so now you have to pay me back with sex
i am talking about relationships between women and men, where the woman spends years taking what she feels she needs from a hapless socially inept man, in all those years, she knows he is lonely, but does nothing, does not throw a mercy f, does not attempt to set him up with anyone, does nothing and maybe even helps him to stay alone with underhanded actions, becuase she needs what he constantly gives her.
Nice guys yes, creepy women no, the play men endlessly, and never care back
as far as i am concerned, when i hear nice guy, i hear victim
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/25/2008 7:04:11 AM | Great Forum Post - Crackedhalo !
Just ignore the negative whiner's who insult what you wrote.
Yes I am a nice guy and I wont change for anyone. Yes I hate it when I get no farther than "Just friends" or a woman I like ends up with some Loser a$$ hole that drinks to much and just gabs about sports (ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ)
Yes there are women out there who have ALWAYS been only interested in the nice guy. They never went through the un-original bad boy phase.
Nice guys don't finish last we last the longest   | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/25/2008 11:23:25 AM | Sheesh - what's all the fuss aboutfinishing last?
Seriously - who wants to be the first one into the ambush, minefield or thin ice on open water ... (i.e. "Fools rush in ... ") ... hello ... ??
Besides - what gentleman would want to finish first, anyway ... ???  | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/26/2008 8:00:11 AM |
Believe me, if you are too nice ( and I dont mean that in a derogatory way) your just looking to be taken advantage of
^^^^ When I read comments like this, I wonder what people are thinking. I can't help but sigh and think, wtf?
Too nice?
There isn't such a thing.
I know some royal jerks who are taken advantage of because they are in pursuit of sex or some other selfish gain. These jerks are usually opportunists... just like the women they date. When they do something nice, without a reward (which is rare) many seem to melt and forget he's a jerk.
When a nice guy does something that is nice without a reward (often), he's a pushover and a doormat. Nice guys do things, many times over, because it's not that big a deal. Making another person feel good about themself takes little effort. Being a jerk, humiliating others, takes a lot of effort.
When you talk down about a nice guy (not someone who doesn't know where to draw the line) you're a fool. I'm not claiming to be a nice guy but then again, given some of the jerks I've learned about, from this site, maybe I am. In my opinion, dating a jerk makes you a jerk..... there's a selfishness associated with women who allow men to humiliate them. And as we all know...... jerks thrive on selfishness.
But who cares? If you take issue about me escorting a woman; if you label me because I do things for others without a reward then consider yourself stupid.... because you are.
Jerks are never happy (they're drama queens - lol); their women are never satisfied.
Nice guys can always walk away without the drama and bullshit attached to that kind of behaviour.
As I browsed through this thread I can't believe how people are labelling "Nice guys" as weak people. How misinformed that many of you don't know the dfference between a nice person and a person who allows others to walk on them.... it kind a suggests your ability to properly assess others is poor.
Nice guys are nice guys to everyone.... not just women. | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/26/2008 6:49:07 PM | We're not talking about people who are kind. We are talking about guys that do nice things for women in hopes that the women they are being nice to will eventually have sex with them.
Many men feel they are unworthy of sex. To get it they must do nice things to make them worthy. They will do things for women they want to have sex with that they will not do for other women. That isn't being nice. That is deceiving.
Those are the weak. They are weak because they feel unworthy.
Jerks do not attract women. If you look at the playboys throughout history, none of them were jerks. | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/26/2008 7:56:59 PM |
Jerks do not attract women
Yet, we have women who want to marry prisoners they never met.
Women leave their husbands for a homewrecker/jerk.
Single women who date married men (jerks) rather than single men.
Some women love drama therefore date jerks to accomodate that need.
The fact of the matter is that women date jerks, a lot. There are only two things in life that are 100% certain but there are many things that are 90 to 99%. Cats chase mice, Dogs chase cats and women date, sleep with and/or marry jerks. I didn’t make those rules I just observe them and read the hundreds of threads in these forums. | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/26/2008 8:40:07 PM | | I'm one of those guys,average looking always there for a women.Would put off what I was doing to listen.Would hear your like a big brotherto me.Women like bad boys!they think there the one who will change him. | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/27/2008 8:22:46 AM |
The fact of the matter is that women date jerks, a lot. There are only two things in life that are 100% certain but there are many things that are 90 to 99%. Cats chase mice, Dogs chase cats and women date, sleep with and/or marry jerks. I didn’t make those rules I just observe them and read the hundreds of threads in these forums.
Sounds like sour grapes. You focus on the jerks like there is no one else women date. None of my women friends are with jerks longer than a date or two. Only one woman I know is with a guy I would call a jerk, and she was abused as a child and remains in an abusive relationship.
we have women who want to marry prisoners they never met.
Women leave their husbands for a homewrecker/jerk.
Single women who date married men (jerks) rather than single men.
Some women love drama therefore date jerks to accomodate that need.
That says as much or more about the women than it does the men. In all of those cases, why would you want to date those women? Needy, cheating, encouraging cheating attention whore. Hmm. Not my ideal date.
Quality women don't want jerks. They want confident, intelligent men who treat them well, not a suck up who thinks the way to get what they want is by being nice. | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/27/2008 9:21:22 AM |
Sounds like sour grapes. You focus on the jerks like there is no one else women date
No. Not sour grapes in the least bit. You interpret my post as suggesting women only date jerks. I'm not that stupid to think so. But, as I said, women do date jerks.... you admit it to knowing some:
None of my women friends are with jerks longer than a date or two. Only one woman I know is with a guy I would call a jerk, and she was abused as a child and remains in an abusive relationship
I guess it's safe to say that all but one of your women friends date jerks more than once or twice. But the thing is, as this thread topic is about, nice guys don't even get that one date, in many cases. If your friends are dating regularly or even rarely, chances are they've dated more jerks over anyone else. And in many cases, these women know te men are jerks before they actually date them.... they simply hope for the best.
It's no secret, women want exciting guys. And, in many cases, these exciting guys are not that focussed on treating a woman all that great once they've attained what they wanted.... do a thread search, you'll find an endless amount of topics about men being jerks; women feeling used... and then the woman continues to contact the guy/jerk.
Quality women don't want jerks
Don't "want"? Or don't date?
Some date a jerk just as a temnporary thrill. But, the thing is... it happens regularly. I work in a hospital and listen to/witness, a lot of this stuff firsthand. These threads have nothing in comparison. Believe me, there are a lot of jerks that are given liberties - by women considered as "quality".
Besides, "Quality women" is a subjective term. | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/27/2008 9:55:42 AM | Well said and refreshing to hear!
May I add to that, that too many women go for the bad guys, end up separatating or live miserably, until they gain enough maturity to realize that true long-term happiness, more often than not, lies with a nice guy. That is proved by the fact that so many older, divorced and more mature women are suddenly so attracted to nice guys. Now are there any single mature women left to realize this before and without having to go through the whole life teaching and consequence exerperience of temptation and artificial desires . Hear are a few clues guys to avoid these sort of women. If they enjoy uncontrolled shopping, looking for a guy who will motivate or constantly entertain them or make them laugh. If they want to ''live life to the fullest'' by finding a man who will provide them with non stop stimulating activities, travel and projets, then run run Rudolphe!
The same could be said about guys would are players or who wnat to monopolize the atttention.
Hang in there guys and the world and the good women need you!
There are good women out there but they are not easy to find., just like a pearl! | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/27/2008 9:52:56 PM | I truly hope that nice guys are not becoming extinct or I will have to remain by myself.I think as women mature,we become more intelligent and the bad boys and "jerks" loose their appeal.A nice guy is what I think most mature women want.And hopefully,some of us female fishes may find our nice guy in this pond.Wishing all my female fishes on the site the best of luck. | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/27/2008 10:20:41 PM | Nicely wrote.
I just don't understand why they take advantage of the nice guy that is there for them through thick and thin. It kills me...and then they have the nerve to call you their best friend.
I personally think that the nice guys should be a bit more vocal going forward.
My thought. | |
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| Nice guys finish last, are you one?
Posted: 12/28/2008 6:26:22 PM | Well my New Years resolution for 2009 is to be more of a jerk and go after those who want a jerk for a bf! While Im dating her im going to cheat "put on my nice guy hat" and date those mature women that want a nice guy! lol
I think to be a jerk and nice guy at the same time is the only way to get lucky with the ladies!! lmao
It's almost 2009 so its time to take a risk and have fun with those naughty girls who just love to be treated like dirt by a bad boy! | |
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