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 icecapqueen2

Joined: 7/12/2006
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Posted: 12/28/2008 8:01:38 PM
My sweet Jay,don't you ever become a jerk!!!I don't even think you know how to be one. You are amazing and a nice guy and if women can't see it and know what a prize they are getting in you then whisper sweet nothings in their ears with that deep sexy voice of yours.
 icecapqueen2

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Posted: 12/29/2008 11:38:14 AM
I have to say My I is right.I also worked in a hospital and there were a lot of women who were co-dependant and enjoyed the drama of dating jerks,all the while expecting others to provide a shoulder to cry on when the had their episodes of "drama".Even though I'm a caregiver type personality,I don't have time to help those who won't help themselves.There are far too many people who need my help that are more deserving.And to the OP who think My I has a case of sour grapes,you don't know this wonderful man very well.He is one of the nicest guys I have ever met.Don't let his quick wit and sarcasm fool you ladies.He is a true gentleman and I am so glad that he is my friend.He is very insightful and some people just can't handle the truth.You have to face your flaws in order to overcome them and he shoots straight and you'll always hear the truth from him even when it's not pretty.
I myself have dated jerks when I was younger but their appeal has faded.Way to high maintenance for this lady.
 DJ_Lil_Jay

Joined: 9/11/2005
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Posted: 12/29/2008 1:38:04 PM
icecapqueen: yeah your right I can't be a jerk! I could try but it wouldnt last long lol. I like the way I am and will continue to be a nice guy!

I know there is ladies out there that are looking for a guy like me and hey icecapqueen is right I got the voice for all you ladies that have a fetish for deep male voices

Looking forward to that phone call hehe
 VainH

Joined: 3/7/2006
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Posted: 12/29/2008 3:48:49 PM
I'm a nice guy by finishing last. If I finish first, I make every effort to also finish third.
(If you don't get this, you're too nice for me - NEXT)

Am I a nice guy? I'd have to say no, at least by the definition layed out by the OP. I do nice things without expectation of any compensation other than knowing I did a nice thing. And I do this for everybody, not just chicks I'd like to nail. I listen up to a point, but if it's the same old ground being covered again and again, I point out the insanity of expecting a different outcome to the same old mistakes, and offer advice if I have any worth mentioning. I make time for people that matter to me, but people who matter know that I'm not their 24/7 therapist/shoulder to cry on/fallback plan.

No, the so-called nice guys described here aren't so nice. In fact, their behaviour might be viewed as a little creepy, allowing themselves to be emotionally abused on the off chance they might get some action out of it. Many of them are just passive-aggressive twats with no more sense than the vapid women who use them.

That is at least the ones who feel so wronged they feel the need to talk about it.
 icecapqueen2

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Posted: 12/29/2008 6:26:28 PM
My sweet Jay.You have to put your digits in if you want those ladies to call!Until then,your mine,all mine. For 2009 I am going to do the Mrs. Robinson thing if you ladies don't snatch this fishy up.He's funny,inspirational,adorable and let me tell you,Barry White has nothing on this man.
 nascar3fan

Joined: 5/23/2008
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Posted: 12/30/2008 11:17:36 AM

No, the so-called nice guys described here aren't so nice. In fact, their behaviour might be viewed as a little creepy, allowing themselves to be emotionally abused on the off chance they might get some action out of it. Many of them are just passive-aggressive twats with no more sense than the vapid women who use them.

That is at least the ones who feel so wronged they feel the need to talk about it.
A little milk came out my nose when I read that. haha. There is wisdom in those words.

Sucking up is not attractive and that is what most "nice guys" do. Letting someone have their way is not a way to develop a sustainable relationship. It creates an unbalanced relationship that will grow tired where one feels no challenge and the other feels no matter what they do it's not good enough.

You have to say no sometimes. "Nice guys" don't because they think displeasing their partner will harm them, when in fact, it will make them stronger.

A nice guy is a euphemism for a wimp. Nobody thinks a wimp is an ideal partner.
 cunnybear

Joined: 7/15/2008
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Posted: 12/30/2008 1:03:36 PM
one can be a nice guy, if a nice guy is one who is honorable, moral and ethical, considerate and understanding. but that doesnt mean that a nice guy should not be competitive and persistent enough to get what he wants. i for one believe that a guy who finishes last and then blames it on being a nice guy is a loser and simply making an excuse. u want something, fight for it, and get it, u dont have to be a rotten scoundrel doing it though. but if u have to compete hard and legally, then do it. being a nice guy doesnt mean u have to be a wimp and a doormat. assert yrself and go grab it.

if yr competitor wants to play dirty, then u do the same too. dont descend to his level of dirtiness but play the game and win. the world only remembers winners, nice guy losers be damned.
 DJ_Lil_Jay

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Posted: 12/30/2008 1:24:29 PM
icecapqueen: well Im not gonna put my digits here as a call at 4 am wouldn't be nice unless it was a sexy sounding voice Mr. Robinson for 2009 oh my wow I cant wait for that! Thanks for you compliments there and wow putting me above Barry White? Now that is the best compliment of all!

Nice guys have to be patient I guess and good things will happen eventually!

I also believe that nice guys need to stick up for themselves and not be a victim of **** whipping! If your not comfortable just speak up and tell them you cant take this anymore. If they don't like it then that woman isn't right for you! Relationships are a two way street and there has to be open communication for it to work.

I have a cousin who is getting whipped bad lol and I am afraid one day he will just snap and go postal Better to confront it early before ya explode lol.
 minako79

Joined: 1/15/2009
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Posted: 9/21/2009 10:21:47 PM
action speak louder than words. :)
 Paul.W_1967

Joined: 8/8/2009
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Posted: 9/22/2009 10:52:31 AM
Yep that's me, a nice guy, used to be a lot nicer before meeting my last GF, I let her walk all over me and me killing myself to see to her needs and wants only to be treated like dirt and shown little appreciation for the effort. I finally woke up one morning, after bawling myself to sleep and told her what the hell she could go do with herself.

I'm still a nice guy, BUT I won't let a woman walk all over me, I won't let a woman get too possesive; I won't let a woman know all the details of my life story and a woman had better know up front that I'm certianly not going to trust her right off the bat. I'm not going to move in with her after dating for 3 months. And I'm not going to let her abuse me in any form, one incident of that and she can take the road and hopefully the door won't miss her glutious maximus on the way out ! I don't negotiate with abusive people.

That said, show me a little respect, appreciation and affection and there's nothing I won't do, short of murder (I don't kill people), for a woman I'm with !!!!!!

For the lady out here who's finishing last, I've been looking for you, where are you ???

Peace

Paul

P.S. There's a book out there called Don't Sweat the Small Stuff, by Richard Carlson, PH.D. it's really helped me along the last few months. If you think life's giving you a raw deal and little things are driving you nuts, get this book and read, read, read it. And read it again, and again till everything in it is second nature, then practice what you read, life will be a lot nicer and less frustrating.
 minako79

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Posted: 9/22/2009 12:07:42 PM

I'm not going to move in with her after dating for 3 months. And I'm not going to let her abuse me in any form, one incident of that and she can take the road and hopefully the door won't miss her glutious maximus on the way out ! I don't negotiate with abusive people.


Moving in after 3 months that a little extreme! I'd give it a year whether I can be able to get along or trust a guy.

I'm sorry but I am a little cautious and suspicious guys claiming 'to be nice guy' when they're not. There are a few good ones which is unfortunate they are given the bad rep for it.
 steel1959

Joined: 11/3/2007
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Posted: 9/23/2009 3:06:00 PM
here they want the bad boys and the goodboys wallet some of the things they ask a man to be its like a job interview this site has not changed all looks and no heart
 kjbosman_79

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Posted: 10/25/2009 11:12:37 AM
As you know..... "Save the BEST for last" The bad ones get to go first, but the best ones are just waiting for the right one to come.
 kjbosman_79

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Posted: 10/25/2009 11:15:38 AM
I agree it is unfortunate for some of us men. I know a LOT of men make me look like a bad character, but each and every human is different. Some want to be cool infront of their friends and all, and then there is a small percentage that do what they feel is best for themselves. Getting to know someone, and building the relationship is the best way to go, in my eyes. You get to know the positives and negatives of your mate, and if everything is great in the relationship, then you move to the next step, if both feel comfortable doing so.
 LadyDiane1960

Joined: 5/2/2009
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Posted: 10/25/2009 2:01:51 PM
Since I've been single, I too notice all the not so nice looking guy with gorgeous lady. You know what it is....the not so good looking guy, will treat you like a queen. The good looking guy will not even try to be nice. TRUST me on that one; it is not all about money.
 curious2bhere

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Posted: 10/25/2009 2:53:02 PM
I'm naught and nice, keeps things interesting. lmao

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 Specifically

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Posted: 10/26/2009 2:20:54 PM
Sometimes we women go out with "bad boys" because the "nice ones" are too shy to ask us out. Bad boys also know how to hide their true colors, in the beginning anyways.
My son was one of the "nice" ones. Hung out with a crowd of his peers but he never had a date. Nice kid, good looking, intelligent. Once high school was finished the gang went their own ways and he met new people. Now he dates a lot. Girls love him. He was put into the "great friend" role in high school and never could break out of it with that crowd. So maybe quit hanging out with women who only see you as a friend.
I've also dated "nice men" who really weren't as nice as they thought. Sometimes being the nice one makes men angry.
Do any women really like being treated like garbage? I find that hard to believe. I think we're all looking for a nice man.
 northern705gu

Joined: 12/15/2007
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Posted: 10/30/2009 4:10:18 PM
re name this site plenty of chickens
 My I

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Posted: 10/30/2009 10:27:36 PM

Sometimes we women go out with "bad boys" because the "nice ones" are too shy to ask us out.

^^^ Self degradation.

I am amused at the fact that women claim to be free from the shackles of male dominance (to a certain degree), yet they blame nice guys for dating jerks - *sigh*

Do women accept responsibility for anything they do?

The bottom line: If a woman's self esteem is as low as the belly of a snake, she will date anyone who buys the popcorn at the cinema.... as long as she does all the driving.
 curious2bhere

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Posted: 10/31/2009 6:41:24 AM
Update:

Actually since being on this site and reading forums, I've become nasty! outspoken! cold hearted! arrogant! selfcentered!

OMG OMG!!!!!!! I've transformed into a woman !!!!!!!!!

Just kidding, ladies all in fun.
 .lisa

Joined: 8/29/2009
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Posted: 10/31/2009 11:34:07 AM
^^^^^ actually I don't blame you if that did...it sure makes alot of women on here like that with all the b.s online dating brings.....
 Specifically

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Posted: 10/31/2009 3:16:10 PM
Perhaps I didn't explain myself properly.
What I meant was I, and I think most, women want nice men. But who messages us most? The not so nice ones. The players. Do we know this about them before dating them? Usually no. Takes a few dates to figure this out. I'm curious why all these nice men aren't asking the nice women out.
I accept full responsibility for everything I do MyI. If I continued to date an ass after being aware of what type of person he was that would be my choice and I wouldn't bellyache about it. I don't choose to date this type.
My self esteem is also fine. I can't be bought for a box of popcorn. Not even if there's a prize in the bottom.
I may not have explained myself properly in my response but comparing me to the belly of a snake? No self esteem? Self degradation? Wow.
 wonderingsole

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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:48:16 AM
No SLOW guys finish last, nice guys aren't really sure where the race is.
 roninvince

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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:08:44 PM
No SLOW guys finish last, nice guys aren't really sure where the race is.

Most nice guys don't think it should even be considered a race in the first place. I guess it's kind of ironic that the men who treat women as their equals often get treated in return as friends, while the guys who treat them as prized objects to compete over often get what they want in the end.

Men are socially encouraged to be violent and competitive, practically from birth. Sports, school, games, work, capitalism, military, etc... it's all compete, win, success, money, recognition, women. It's all part of what constitutes our society, women being just as much a part of it and influenced by it will also prefer the successful competitors over the pacifists.

The men who go against these trends and make the efforts for empathy over apathy, sharing over competing and giving over taking will usually end up with little to show for it, often their only rewards being a sense of personal satisfaction in knowing that they made the world a slightly better place.
 SenorBrown

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Posted: 11/4/2009 9:00:05 PM
Monsieur, nice guys don't finish last, they finish in the shower.


p.s. The problem always is the lack of initiative. And you can't justify that by being a nice guy.
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