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 Author Thread: Are the U.S. misunderstood?
 attachedm

Joined: 7/22/2004
Msg: 51
You eat at homless shelters?
Posted: 12/19/2004 12:54:23 PM
And you have a computer? With Internet access? Are you a Wolf in sheeps clothes?
 attachedm

Joined: 7/22/2004
Msg: 52
Byrd dumb bird!
Posted: 12/19/2004 1:00:50 PM
Do not tease the angry! It is entirely that mindset that made you a circus. Every great
empire has fallen. It is NOT 'if' but 'when' You are a fool to think anything else. Sorry to
tell you, everything passes with time.

This is not voiced in anger, just truth. 100 Billion Chinese will want wood from Canada one day. It is just a fact, soon the fight of a century will be on. First Oil then clean water what next?
imo
 igotoosu

Joined: 7/28/2004
Msg: 53
You eat at homless shelters?
Posted: 12/19/2004 1:03:04 PM
Yea ***hole, i eat at the shelter.
I also used to be a business owner.
Now i am a student, the computer is a must because i use it for school everyday, several times a day. I purchased this computer a year ago, i had it built and i spent 2 thousand on components and software. This thing is a fararri.
If you go to university, there is a loan you can take for the purpose of buying a computer, i took it, i took the max and i spent it all on this sweet custom pc.
And yea, i have money for electricity, rent, car insurance and internet. I usually pay all three months at a time when my financial aid comes.
There is usually only about a months worth of food money for me, i stock up for my pets.
I took six classes last term and i got 5 A's and a B+. I also work in a microbiology lab and get paid for it, but that stops now because i am volunteering in a pharmacy as that is more inline with my career.
Next term is gonna be real short. I am taking donations if you want. we can speak outside the forums if you wish.
 the noodler

Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 54
You eat at homless shelters?
Posted: 12/19/2004 1:12:00 PM
I've lost any idea of who exactly we are ranting at...

attachedM- who are talking to about the computer stuff?? Me, Igo, or Watchman??..

anyway.... of course this dynasty is destined for the crapper, Im just amazed with as much history as we have, We're going so fast!!! For a country that was founded on raidcal ideals and freedom at any cost- I'm floored that we're turning into a Financial Tyranny

Igotoo, I can't tell you how much I feel you! My credit was awesome, before I went to College. Now I couldn't even get a loan for a car, all because paying for school, food, and rent came before everything else. The only people I know who made it through the financial war which is college "financially unscathed" were the kids who had trust funds or had rich families. I sure didn't--

30K in student loans and now I can't find a job in my field. None of my friends can unless they got a teaching or business degree. Most of my buddies from college went back to school go grab that 2ndary ed certificate.
 Byrd

Joined: 7/19/2004
Msg: 55
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attachedM eats boogers..
Posted: 12/19/2004 1:30:15 PM
O.K. Which one of you ****ers put that Byrd dumb bird up there? That's something I would expect from one of our wonderful right wingers.. I guess attachedM did it Why? Just because I said I'm gonna sell my vote? Now I'm confused...Homeless is spelled wrong..
 the noodler

Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 56
This thread is getting confusing!!!
Posted: 12/19/2004 1:47:20 PM
I Dont even know where Byrd dumb bird is...

<<< thinks the feds put something in this thread that is making us all lose our minds, so we can't spread anymore anti capitalist messages around the forums!! LoL
 Byrd

Joined: 7/19/2004
Msg: 57
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whatdafruckrunamuck?
Posted: 12/19/2004 1:51:39 PM
You did it didn't you Noodler?
 the noodler

Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 58
whatdafruckrunamuck?
Posted: 12/19/2004 3:14:40 PM
LoL, yes.. I also know where hoffa is! He's the guy who wears all the ronald McDonald makeup for Mickey D's
 igotoosu

Joined: 7/28/2004
Msg: 59
whatdafruckrunamuck?
Posted: 12/19/2004 3:19:42 PM
of course attachedM did it. His post is the first time it appeared.
 Byrd

Joined: 7/19/2004
Msg: 60
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whatdafruckrunamuck?
Posted: 12/19/2004 5:10:26 PM
i KNOW i THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY....BUT i STILL THINK HE EATS BOOGERS...
 attachedm

Joined: 7/22/2004
Msg: 61
The U.S. are not misunderstood.
Posted: 12/19/2004 8:14:18 PM
Everyone knows. Even the homeless birds.

The topic about what is going on is always
mingled with a conspiricy.

Beware of the
truth it may be a lie wraped up in a dead
salmon skined sushi.

I eat birds.
 attachedm

Joined: 7/22/2004
Msg: 62
The U.S. are not misunderstood.
Posted: 12/19/2004 8:20:44 PM
WHAT IS BUSH’S REAL GOAL IN IRAQ?


By Paul Findley (who wrote the excellent 'They Dare to Speak Out' book about the power of the pro-Israel -AIPAC and similar- lobby in the USA) 12-14-04

Our most urgent challenge in Iraq is convincing the insurgents that we will pack and leave once a directly-elected government is installed. Distrust of U.S. intentions is the root cause of the bloody rebellion that seems to gain strength each month. Is the Bush Administration honest in stating that its objective is a stable, democratic Iraq? Or is that just a cover for permanent military bases that will enable the U.S. government to dominate Iraq far into the future.
Here are a few of the reasons why Iraqis distrust U.S. intentions:
Headlines and newscasts are replete with forecasts by administration officials that U.S. troops will be needed in Iraq for years.
“Neocons” in the Defense Department long ago urged an invasion of Iraq as a step toward U.S. control of the Middle East. Retired U.S. General Anthony Zinni, former chief of the U.S. Central Command, publicly stated recently that “everyone” in Washington knows that oil and Israel are the real reasons for the war.
Beginning with the thunderous, devastating “shock and awe” opening round, U.S. military assaults have left over 100,000 Iraqi civilians dead, with other thousands wounded and/or homeless, and vast areas, including the great historic city of Fallujah, in ruins.
> No serious shakeup or reprimand in high places followed the disclosure of U.S. torture and humiliation of detainees.
> Administration officials handpicked the interim Iraqi government in its entirely. The prime minister, Ayad Allawi, resided for a long period in the United States, had close links with the CIA, and earlier was a close colleague of Saddam Hussein, once serving as the dictator’s hatchet man in Europe.
> At the end of the 1991 Gulf War, the U.S. government urged the Iraqis to overthrow Saddam. This prompted a strong uprising, but the U.S. government refused to provide support in any form. This refusal prompted Saddam to use helicopter gun-ships to slaughter dissidents by the hundreds.
> For a decade after the Gulf War, U.S. fighter planes enforced severe sanctions that led to immense civilian suffering, including the death of at least a half-million Iraqi infants.
> In the l980s--the height of Saddam’s cruel treatment of Kurds and other Iraqi citizens—the U.S. government served as the dictator’s silent, uncomplaining partner, helping him battle Iran.
> Before invading Iraq in 2003, the Bush administration ignored offers of conciliation from Saddam emissaries.
> President Bush has failed to make any moves to redress what is seen as America’s anti-Arab/Muslim bias. Bush talks of independence for Palestinians but continues to support without complaint Israel’s brutal treatment of them.
Distrust of the U.S. government is virulent throughout the Arab world and beyond, not just in Iraq, and our government does almost nothing to dispel it.
If the administration fails to establish credibility, the rebellion will intensify. The best first step is to convince the Iraqis quickly that we will leave the minute the new directly-elected government wants us out. President Bush must pledge, without qualification, that the timing and extent of our withdrawal will be controlled by Iraq.
To make this promise believable, Bush must state clearly that our government will withdraw all U.S. military forces and all U.S. contractors and dismantle all U.S. military bases within a few weeks after the new government takes office. The only exceptions should be military units or contractors the new Iraqi government may wish to remain. Such units will remain only as long as the new government wishes.
Our government must also promise unequivocally that once the new Iraqi government takes office, the U.S. diplomatic mission, now bursting with a staff of ominous size--more than 2,000 persons, the largest in recorded history--will quickly be reduced to a standard level.
Whatever his original motives, Bush must take prompt, rigorous steps to erase Iraqi fear of U.S. colonialism. Otherwise, his page in history will be bleaker than President Lyndon Johnson’s legacy from the Vietnam War.
In Iraq, trust--not military manpower--is the greatest and gravest shortage. More troops will inspire more insurgency, not less.
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Paul Findley, a Member of Congress 1961-83, writes and lectures on Middle East issues. His book, They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel’s Lobby, a 7-week bestseller on the Washington Post list, has sold over 300,000 copies
 Byrd

Joined: 7/19/2004
Msg: 63
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The U.S. are not misunderstood.
Posted: 12/19/2004 9:01:24 PM
You know I usually go for women but if you eat birds....Actually I agree with alot of what you say even though it confuses the sh*t outta me...
 attachedm

Joined: 7/22/2004
Msg: 64
What is the truth?
Posted: 12/20/2004 10:40:55 AM
Thats all I want to know.

Fighting on the Internet is like winning the Special Olympics :
In the end all that competed were retards and they are all winners.

Sorry if I offended any tards. Just stay happy.

Life is what happens when you are waiting for the bus.
 the noodler

Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 65
What is the truth?
Posted: 12/20/2004 11:10:09 AM
attachedm... I'm not sure what that last post was supposed to accomplish

Maybe life is what happens while you're waiting on the bus, however, I dont frequent public transit or require the aide of "special mobility"
 attachedm

Joined: 7/22/2004
Msg: 66
What is the truth?
Posted: 12/20/2004 11:41:31 AM
All that meant was Life happens when we sit and do nothing as well as the 'big' moments
May as well make a difference (for the better)
 lyrical heart

Joined: 11/24/2004
Msg: 67
What is the truth?
Posted: 12/20/2004 2:14:50 PM
Is America misunderstood? Probably. To some of us America seems like an awkward but powerful adolescent, unaware of how it affects others and showing off because it want's to and it can.

Some of us want to take the toys away from the boy, but we haven't yet figured out how. But, if America keeps on ignoring its have-nots - they'll sooner or later reach a point where they pull the gawky adolescent to the ground and pummel him severely - or worse.
 the noodler

Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 68
What is the truth?
Posted: 12/20/2004 2:18:01 PM
wow, lyrical... Excellent analogy! I think the comparison of the U.S. to a bully is riiiight on. However, some here may disagree with us.
 Simplycaroline

Joined: 12/10/2004
Msg: 69
What is the truth?
Posted: 12/20/2004 2:28:08 PM
Lyrcal heart: Bravo! Great analagy.
 lyrical heart

Joined: 11/24/2004
Msg: 70
What is the truth?
Posted: 12/20/2004 2:32:34 PM
Thanks. I write, so I should be able to think of an analogy now and again.

By the way, I also think that the U.S. needs to consider revising the way it chooses a president. Perhaps the method used does not fit the current century.
 Simplycaroline

Joined: 12/10/2004
Msg: 71
What is the truth?
Posted: 12/20/2004 2:34:58 PM
Lyrical heart: I am in agreement with you. There are many Americans that agree that we need to make some changes in the electorial college. We fear that it has become outdated and corrupt.
 lyrical heart

Joined: 11/24/2004
Msg: 72
What is the truth?
Posted: 12/20/2004 3:12:30 PM
Is there fear of giving the American people a more direct voice?

It's something I wonder about since there seems to be a fear of channging the system. Why not just have house and senate elections and the party that wins the majority of the seats would lead. Too simple a way to choose the "leader of the free world?" - maybe, and maybe not.
 PORTAL-TIME

Joined: 9/26/2004
Msg: 73
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Posted: 12/20/2004 4:01:16 PM
Over analysed and i feel paralysed
Its all about America through some peoples eyes
Me i see them as friends , in a far away land
Same morals and similar laws , helps me to understand
But really at the end , no one ever does
For we dont have control of God from above
We are the physcology of today
Reading and writing in a different way
All we want is a simple solution
Hard to see through the blood shed and pollution
Its hard to believe , America Vs the world and so free
This is not a game , its life , what do you percieve
Fancy names for a label in time
Messages deciphered one day in a ryhme
Only the brave will survive
As time never ends , we are all alive
Striving for perfection is our biggest infection
Not surreal but a truth in a way
Let all the people have their say
What do we get? Analytical babble , that quickly we forget
To make a stand , or lend a hand?
To be free , or to plant a tree?
To be conciously aware that we all exist
Through the fog and mist
Have we all missed our lives?
Why are we are , and what is our drive?
Lets have a drink and reflect on the time
That we were here to have fun , without sacrifice
Or do we aspire for fun , with sacrifice
Never forget , it is always remembered
History revolves like the earth on its axis
My point i see is losing its compactness
For there is no point just reflection
No real choice , just agree to acception.
 Byrd

Joined: 7/19/2004
Msg: 74
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Posted: 12/20/2004 4:33:46 PM
Now he calls me a tard???????? hmmmm..
 PORTAL-TIME

Joined: 9/26/2004
Msg: 75
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Posted: 12/20/2004 4:55:11 PM
Simplicity is bliss..........ahhh
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