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Posted: 12/20/2004 5:13:37 PM |  For sure this is niggling, but shouldn't the title of this thresd be, " Is the U.S. misunderstood ?". I wasn't going to say anything but I have to keep looking at the incorrect title and it bugs me. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2004 5:16:01 PM | | Go ahead and change it, it's been changed several times... | |
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| What is the truth?
Posted: 12/20/2004 5:54:53 PM | | Lyricalheart: Yes, there is much fear because the people that hold the power are terrified of losing control. They will do it at the risk of losing everything because they are afraid that they will lose ground. | |
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| Bird is a warrior for the world!
Posted: 12/21/2004 10:17:08 AM | He just does not know it yet!
You know what happens when you sit in the middle of the road?
You get hit by a car.
I live in Vancouver B.C. and it is the home of the founder of Greenpeace
very funny story with him he was a monk and a follower of Buddah I believe.
He came to this Hollywood Hotel an LSD experimental hospital in New West B.C.60'S Many U.S. actors
came here as well... When he left he became a warrior for what is all ours. Unselfish
Clean and with a purpose.
On the other hand I know many racist Christians that are blind
to the world and its people. They think it is right to kill undesirables. The only purpose is profit. Most of the followers are sheep and do not think about the possible 'brain washing' When did my people become so evil? Wake up!
Peace out.
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| Bird is a warrior for the world!
Posted: 12/21/2004 10:25:36 AM | | to byrd I tried typing in subject. no go. I'm certain the heading is incorrect, s. be Is and it bugs me. | |
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Posted: 12/21/2004 2:06:04 PM | | The people of america are not misunderstood. The world sees them more clearly than they see themselves. Americans see themselves in a fully democratic society that they feel is fair to all. A system of "democracy" that unwittingly feeds in to the greedy side of corporate america. There is a 7-11, a McDonalds, or a Starbucks on every corner, proving how extreme our system of capitalism has become and how many of us are addicted to it. This capitalism needs a chaotic society to flourish. Look at how much money is spent on war, guns, and the criminal system. Americans spend more money building jails than they do on education, never mind military expenditures. The terrorists in Iraq just don't want capitalist joe to come into there country, knock down a mosque, and put a McDonalds or Wal Mart in its place. Even worse they fear being used in the war machine even more. They are totally correct to think that it will happen. They understand that we have no control over capitalist America considering the people with the money own the people running the show. We are just too dazzled by the loud noises and shiny objects to notice the rape of our own countries. Only way to stop it is to limit the ability of the few to amass the wealth that should be amassed by the whole......worldwide. We can't even do it in north america. | |
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Posted: 12/22/2004 12:33:15 PM | No1here is absolutely correct. ^^^ you should hunt down my posts in this thread, bush isn't too bright, and in Overdraft charges. You'll get a perception of what similar minded individuals think that live here in the states.
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 12/22/2004 2:09:32 PM | I've read quite a few of these posts and I'm pleasantly surprised that there are few die hard U.S promoters that think they smell like roses. Many of the posts here made good sense but I think one has to take a step back and look at the bigger picture, but I'll get into that later.
I want to start about talking about a solution. It has become obvious with the information available to the average person that the U.S is not being run by the people. If you are American and think you live in a Democratic country, you’re wrong. You really only have 2 parties to choose from and both have their hidden agendas. The first step to a solution is education. I have to say that Americans are the stupidest people I've ever met. I really mean that. (not to insult the few educated) It’s the governments fault, but it’s true. The saddest thing is Americans don't know how stupid they really are. So, educate yourself. Read publications that aren't written or published in the U.S. Try watching a good news broadcast (CBC), rather then FOX, CNN or the other propaganda spreading networks. If you're a parent, put pressure on the schools to change, remove or add curriculum. Most of all, learn about other countries. There are many countries like Greenland, Switzerland, Canada, just to name a few that are on a much better track then the U.S. The next step to a solution is speaking out. Its fine to speak out on internet forums, but you must be speaking out in your communities, newspapers, radio, and TV if you can. If you’re not speaking out against the U.S. political system, YOU’RE STILL PART OF THE PROBLEM.
So with that said, let's look at the big picture. What we see unfold before I eyes on TV and in the news everyday was planned decades ago. Anybody who works in a large corporation knows that long expensive studies looking at the next 25 years are constantly underway.The elite business community in the US are no different. Keep in mind the agenda we currently see unfolding was planned 30-40 years ago. Because the US has very little oil of their own and 30 years ago oil was seen as the only source of power for automobiles, planes, trains etc.. Its not surprising the agenda is Middle East control. Either the elite business community cannot see the forest through the trees or they just have too much invested in this insane idea already. The long term goal of this agenda is to gain world control. It’s obvious that if humanity were to survive on this planet long enough, we will see a One World Government. It is obvious to all that the US has no interest in the U.N. Therefore the plan must be world control with the US at the head of the table.
The US government will keep pulling the wool over Americans eyes if they them. So educate yourself, protest, send letters to new agencies and politicians, start web sites and most of all speak out in your communities. I know that people who speak out are being called traitors, but don't sweat it. You'll be the majority some day, and hopefully soon. Do it for America and the rest of the world will thank you.
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 12/22/2004 2:22:52 PM |
I have to say that Americans are the stupidest people I've ever met. I really mean that.
That's really a bright statement. Calling nearly 300 million people stupid based on your assessment of American Government when you are not even American. Did you come to that conclusion from what you read in the Government controlled Canadian media?
Brilliant!
Do it for America and the rest of the world will thank you.
We'll continue to do what's right for the 300 million people that live here, you can worry about what the rest of the world thinks... | |
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| Are the U.S. misundertood?
Posted: 12/22/2004 4:59:22 PM | how could he disaggree No1? He would fall flat on his face if he tried to deny this, it kicks a***:
The people of america are not misunderstood. The world sees them more clearly than they see themselves. Americans see themselves in a fully democratic society that they feel is fair to all. A system of "democracy" that unwittingly feeds in to the greedy side of corporate america. There is a 7-11, a McDonalds, or a Starbucks on every corner, proving how extreme our system of capitalism has become and how many of us are addicted to it. This capitalism needs a chaotic society to flourish. Look at how much money is spent on war, guns, and the criminal system. Americans spend more money building jails than they do on education, never mind military expenditures. The terrorists in Iraq just don't want capitalist joe to come into there country, knock down a mosque, and put a McDonalds or Wal Mart in its place. Even worse they fear being used in the war machine even more. They are totally correct to think that it will happen. They understand that we have no control over capitalist America considering the people with the money own the people running the show. We are just too dazzled by the loud noises and shiny objects to notice the rape of our own countries. Only way to stop it is to limit the ability of the few to amass the wealth that should be amassed by the whole......worldwide. We can't even do it in north america.
I've noticed that rather than deal with the meat of peoples writing he seems to try to attack them for having the audacity to live in Canada or the uk etc, or pick on peripheral parts of their work to try to distract attention from the wisdom at the heart of it. If he was more bright I would believe that he was an agent working as a propogandist for some right-wing US organisation.
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| Are the U.S. misundertood?
Posted: 12/22/2004 5:28:32 PM | <<< always trucks around this mother with a big red one!!! LoL
Now, I'm not sure how into world domination the U.S. is, but I can see where someone could come up with that. I think big business is happy stopping at world control! If the whole world was comprised of U.S. citizens, B.B. wouldn't have anywhere to outsource too. LoL | |
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| Are the U.S. misundertood?
Posted: 12/22/2004 11:16:18 PM | | The US doesn't necessarily have to dominate the world in order to reap its rewards. The ones at the top know all they have to do is keep the majority of the people distracted and off balance while being butt raped. Imagine if BB actually spent his war coffers on education? God forbid.....Now thats a new thought "EDUCATION". Instead weapons are being purchased with your tax dollars from a group of companies privy to Bush's hospitality to go fight a war with enemies using the same guns sold by the companies you helped fund in the first place with your taxes. If you don't think it works this way go crawl back into your hole thats wallpapered with the american education system that teaches you enough to be useful but not enough to be dangerous or "oh my god"-free thinking. Capitalism without restraint has to self destruct. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 12/22/2004 11:31:15 PM |
That's really a bright statement. Calling nearly 300 million people stupid based on your assessment of American Government when you are not even American.
I agree with you here. He is not justified in calling the American people stupid, especially since our two peoples are supposed to be friends. As a Canadian, I apologize for his unneeded, unfounded statement.
Did you come to that conclusion from what you read in the Government controlled Canadian media?
This, however, is wrong. Our government has little, if any control over our media, even the organizations they sponsor themselves. If you read or watch our news, you'll realize that few countries have a media so willing to criticize their government as ours do. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 12/23/2004 6:04:23 AM |
This, however, is wrong. Our government has little, if any control over our media, even the organizations they sponsor themselves. If you read or watch our news, you'll realize that few countries have a media so willing to criticize their government as ours do.
No where is the Canadian media's censorship by the government more evident than during the Ken and Barbie murders (Paul Bernardo & Karla Homolka:) .
My statement was not wrong... | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 12/23/2004 6:14:17 AM |
No where is the Canadian media's censorship by the government more evident than during the Ken and Barbie murders (Paul Bernardo & Karla Homolka:) .
Care to back up up this statement? How exactly was this news censored by the government? | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 12/23/2004 6:44:56 AM |
The authors point out that two corporations, Southam and Thomson, directly or indirectly control 59 percent of Canadian daily newspaper circulation. They are major corporations with extensive interests outside the newspaper industry. In comparison, 14 companies in the U.S. control about half of the newspaper business.
In television, five corporations reached 62 percent of viewers in 1993. In cable, three companies now have 68 percent of the audience, up from 36 per cent in 1983, even though the number of subscribers has increased by more than 40 percent. Just ten companies control 55 percent of the revenue share of Canada's 479 radio stations. This degree of concentration is up by 50 percent in the past decade.
http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/freedom/mediamonopoly.html | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 12/23/2004 7:09:25 AM | Salymus:
I wouldn't call the US "stupid" exactly.
We are indoctrinated. Our political thinking is controlled by the media. In this way, we are "stupid", but we should realize that the US citizens have been brainwashed for 200 years into believing our government and military are always "right" and that the means are justified by the end: the US being the world dominating empire it's become.
People outside the US aren't familiar with political beliefs in the US that we were "destined by God" to:
1) take over the land in what now constitutes the US; no matter who we had to fight or kill or throw off the land to do it. Even though a small group of capitalists and slave owners in Texas managed to steal the land from Mexico; it's considered one of the great battles for freedom that they did this...The US government was also recompensating California for "Indian Fighting Costs" up until 1911. Any and all Indians were brought in dead or alive and those who did it were paid $5 a head. In some years, the amounts paid added up to millions of dollars. Andrew Jackson ignored a judgement by the Supreme Court that a tribe of Indians owned land in Florida and they were marched off to Oklahoma by the US Army. Approximately 3 million of them died on the "Trail of Tears" to Oklahoma.
2) Dominate world politics and be "the light of the world".
3) Confront all the powers of "evil" in some great world war which the Bible refers to as "Armageddon" which would be the greatest, most deadly war the world has ever seen.
US citizens have a vision of their own nation that we are led by God to do what we're doing and that the president is controlled to a great extent by the hand of God to do what he's doing and that ultimately it will all work for the best.
These beliefs are deeply rooted in our culture. Whoever runs for office and manages to appeal to voters in the US based upon their being more able to identify closely with those precepts of US power is going to win any US election.
It's NOT that we're "stupid". Our technology here is as high or higher (defense, anyone?) than any nation on earth. We are leaders in any endeavor we participate in. We're a very intelligent nation and we have many people who oppose this POLITICAL stupidity plague.
Insulting the US will not help the cause of making us see what's wrong with us. It will only make us more resistant to change...We need to be illuminated, not insulted. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 12/23/2004 7:29:13 AM | We are indoctrinated. Our political thinking is controlled by the media
That's what you would like people to believe, this past Election clearly showed that Mainstream America does not agree with the Liberal media. The media has no control over Mainstream America they just help keep their largely conservative views off the news... | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 12/23/2004 7:36:49 AM | When someone from a former European Empire or the UK tries to tell the US about the excesses of our world domination and how it's setting us and the world up for failure; it's like the Child is Father to the Man. It's like "Well, you sure had YOUR fun!"
How are we supposed to know what you're saying is right when you did the same thing we did as much and as long as you could?
It's like someone painting the town red and then they stop.
Why?
Only because they ran out of paint, that's why!
It's also like the US when we tell another nation "You can't have nukes."
They say "Well, YOU DO."
As soon as they get the nukes, the US doesn't fool around with them. You know this, I know this, THEY know this.
Nationalist Extremists (who now control our government in the US) argue that if we didn't control it, someone else sure would and they'd be much less giving and huminatarian than we are. What arguments can we use against this?
It's a mean world. Face it. It's like what the soldiers in Viet Nam (ironically) used to say: "Lord I shall fear no evil, because I'm the meanest sonofab*tch in the valley". Of course, the "valley" is the world in our argument.
We try to enlighten our own here that we'd be less likely to stumble and fall from our position as world leader IF we share the power a little bit... try to make our own values and policies more attuned to the needs of the world...
To adapt ourselves more to the REAL goals of Christians which (if we truly ARE Christians) should be our main focus: Clothe the naked, feed the hungry, house the homeless; rather than just making the rich richer-regardless of the religion of those we're helping.
I could go into the story of "The Good Samaritan" here, but we all know that if we manage to truly help others when they need it; not just to bully them around and steal their land and resources, it justifies our own power. | |
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