| Let it all out here on this thread! WTF
Posted: 12/23/2004 2:03:33 PM | Is it right to be like this or not?
I live in Canada and when I grew up I had the East Indian
invasion hundreds and thousands of Hindus, Packies we used to call them. I hated them then after the years I adapted I learned of there culture and ate there food.
Now they are equal(almost). The same with the slant eyes...I even love sushi now. Again, great people. Why do I feel this Arab hatred and why do I think I deserve their oil?
If you wanted me to hate why did you let them all in? We stole this land from the Indians anyways. The way I see it there are two choices.
Love -
Hate.
The thing about 'Liberal' love is now we have to accept this New all religions thing and that causes waves. Or new beliefs i.e. gay marriage ... some think it is pure evil. Will not work
And hate - well where is your alliance? White Power. Jew Crew. or whatever...Will not work...
Oh well,
on the fence.
I am just blabbing anyways no real point, to get to the point. | |
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| Let it all out here on this thread! WTF
Posted: 1/5/2005 3:12:53 PM | your stupid. I hate you. the man is keepin you down. BEWARE OF THE MAN
oil sucks it's greasy! Tidal power is where it is at! It can destroy and power the world.
planned chaos so the power can take over. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 103 | |
| Let it all out here on this thread! WTF
Posted: 1/5/2005 3:34:26 PM |
They say "Well, YOU DO."
As soon as they get the nukes, the US doesn't fool around with them. You know this, I know this, THEY know this.
What *I* know is that Saddam has a history of not only attacking his nieghboring countries, but also his own people, frankly, I would not want him to have the nuclear bargaining chip.
*FRANKLY* I don't want him to be in charge of a Nation. Oh, right, I dont need to worry about that anymore. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 4:05:58 PM |
If so many Americans hate their own country so much....ummmm.....MOVE!
Ugh.. if I hear this one more time I'm going to go postal. LAME.
I joke about it, but I would never leave. Screw that, I'm gonna
stay here and try to fight their "Agenda"... well, until they go totally
Neo-Christian fascist that is. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 105 | |
| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 6:26:19 PM |
Ugh.. if I hear this one more time I'm going to go postal. LAME.
Perhaps you misunderstand the point.
Someone who says to the liberal "If you think it's so bad, then leave" does not at all think that they should... not by a long shot.
When I say that to someone, I am, in fact, urging them to stay. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 6:28:56 PM | | You and me too shannanigan. We have alot at stake here... Fight the war agenda of war president Bush. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 6:30:40 PM | | If we who are against Bush left the US, the world would have a monster set upon it... even more monstrous than the one that's there now... The best place to oppose Bush is here, where he can't sick the military on us to murder us. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 108 | |
| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 6:36:48 PM | Well, you're losing politically, the majority of Americans are interested in returning to moral value, looks like the game's up.
Tough break, you might have had a chance outside, in the coming years, even liberals will be more conservative. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 7:29:38 PM |
majority of Americans are interested in returning to moral value, looks like the game's up[/quote/
Only if you believe FOX news and other hack networks. By the way, the same stats that claimed Bush won due to moral values stated that Kerry won the election.. (That info came from the exit polls.)
By the way, how can you think a party stands for moral values when they start removing the ethics standards involved for positions in the House and Senate? | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 110 | |
| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 7:41:58 PM |
Only if you believe FOX news and other hack networks.
Or.... the election results?
By the way, the same stats that claimed Bush won due to moral values stated that Kerry won the election.. (That info came from the exit polls.)
Only because liberals tote thier anti-war sentiments as a moral issue.
It's understood that, generally, when we talk about moral agenda, we are referring to Christian Conservatism. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 7:52:48 PM | I think you missed the point. The exit polls were the polls that broke down the specific issues why people voted the way they did. These are the polls that the pundits always cite saying that most of the people who voted Bush did so due to moral values.
Yet in the next breath, the same pundits criticized the polls saying they were wildly inaccurate because they predicted that Kerry won.
So which is it? Did Bush win because of his stand on so-called moral values? Or did Kerry win the election? The exit polls can't be right and wrong at the same time... | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 7:58:26 PM |
So which is it? Did Bush win because of his stand on so-called moral values? Or did Kerry win the election? The exit polls can't be right and wrong at the same time...
LOL! Thats just crazy enough to make sense... 
The only thing thats right is whats in the Republicans favor...
Thats proving more obvious every day. 
As I said before... "Moral Values" Party my butt. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 113 | |
| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 10:14:02 PM |
I think you missed the point. The exit polls were the polls that broke down the specific issues why people voted the way they did. These are the polls that the pundits always cite saying that most of the people who voted Bush did so due to moral values.
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So which is it? Did Bush win because of his stand on so-called moral values? Or did Kerry win the election? The exit polls can't be right and wrong at the same time...
I think you missed the point. I'm talking about different groups both toting the morality title. I'm pretty sure I don't need to say how that would affect polling.
As I said before... "Moral Values" Party my butt.
I don't know about your butt, but regardless of what you think are morals, the rest of the country associates them with certain ideas. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 115 | |
| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 10:23:26 PM | mis·un·der·stand
tr.v. mis·un·der·stood, (-std) mis·un·der·stand·ing, mis·un·der·stands
To understand incorrectly; misinterpret.
If we're talking about you misunderstanding them, you are probably correct. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 117 | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 10:53:02 PM |
Well, you're losing politically, the majority of Americans are interested in returning to moral value, looks like the game's up.
Two points:
1) As I have repeatedly pointed out, 62 millions voters is nowhere near the majority of the US population.
2) If they were interested in returning to moral value, they shouldn't have voted for Bush. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 119 | |
| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 10:55:59 PM |
1) As I have repeatedly pointed out, 62 millions voters is nowhere near the majority of the US population.
So? It's the majority of the people who care about the direction the country is going in.
2) If they were interested in returning to moral value, they shouldn't have voted for Bush.
Pro-life, Anti-Gay marraige... Both big in the election, both Conservative Christian goals. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/5/2005 11:40:49 PM |
Pro-life, Anti-Gay marraige... Both big in the election, both Conservative Christian goals.
You know, I don't have a problem with Christians. It is the people who think they are Christians while using the Bible to try to justify their prejudices that I take issue with. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/6/2005 12:27:36 AM |
I'm talking about different groups both toting the morality title. I'm pretty sure I don't need to say how that would affect polling.
I'll try to explain better. The conclusion you're drawing is based on the surveys taken during the exit polls. Specifically, something like 20% (not sure of the exact number) of the people who voted for Bush said that they did so based on his stand on "moral values."
However, the same exit polls showed clearly that Kerry won the election. Specifically, more people stated that they voted for Kerry than for Bush.
Since I'm assuming you're not claiming that Kerry won the election, I take it that you think the exit polls were incorrect.
Yet, by basing your opinion that Bush won due to his stand on moral values on the exit polls, you're inferring that they were actually correct.
See my dilemma? By concluding that most people voted for Bush due to moral values, you're giving credence to the theory that Kerry won the election. Both conclusions are based on the same numbers - the exit polls. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 122 | |
| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/6/2005 10:57:39 AM |
You know, I don't have a problem with Christians. It is the people who think they are Christians while using the Bible to try to justify their prejudices that I take issue with.
Oh?
First of all, you have to be a complete dunderhead to not at least admit that the pro-life stance has merit. I mean. Seriously.
And secondly, on Gay marraige, which is probably what you are more concerned with, the christians do not need to use the bible to "Justify thier preducices", Hell, they can't. The bible isn't nearly definitive enough on the subject, because of translation issues, and whatnot.
The fact is, that it's totally within the rights of what we call society to make such a "prejudice". Keep in mind, State reconized marraige is not a right, it's a benefit extended to the public by the goverment, meant to encourage certain behaviors that are beneficial in turn.
Benefits - are - not - rights.
It would be like two businesses, one completing some envirmental program to get a tax break, and then another business that did not complete the program complaining that the goverment was biased towards busniesses that did envirmental programs.
It's ridiculous. Now, I'm not even argueing about the merit of providing goverment reconized marraige for homosexuals, but My GOD, put this in perspective, the goverment falt-out, is not obligated to extend benefits to *anyone*. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/6/2005 11:11:51 AM | | Loukus: I don't even CARE if I'm losing politically. That's probably why you're on the side you're on (conservative). With the rest of us, it's a case of what we believe is morally right. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 124 | |
| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/6/2005 11:17:58 AM |
Loukus: I don't even CARE if I'm losing politically. That's probably why you're on the side you're on (conservative). With the rest of us, it's a case of what we believe is morally right.
That's not the point.
I'm saying that you and your ilk don't seem very concerned with winning. Just complaining. | |
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| Are the U.S. misunderstood?
Posted: 1/6/2005 11:18:59 AM | Loukus: if you call yourself a Christian, how can you be a republican and obey Christ's "Great Commission" which is "feed the poor, house the homeless and clothe the naked. Whatever you have done for and to the least important of people, you have also done to me."?
You're pretending to be some "moral" and "worthy" character while at the same time, you've taken the side of a president who's lied to start a war, cuts funds to children's hospitals, puts the nation in deep debt to hand out money to rich people and married a woman who killed her boyfriend; in addition to his family having been one of the main financial supports of Adolph Hitler and selling oil and ammo to the nazis during WWII.
Some great "Christian" you are... | |
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