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Posted: 2/11/2009 6:18:23 PM | | I have the utmost respect for (male) police officers. Not so much respect for female officers though. Females, at least in the state of New York, aren't held to the same standards as the men are. When they perform the physical agility test the women are allowed more time to run 1.5 miles and they don't have to do as many sit-ups and push-ups as the men do. That's absolutely ridiculous seeing as they're supposed to be performing the same duties out in the field. Do the criminals not run away as fast when there is a female officer chasing them as opposed to a male officer? I seriously feel sorry for the men who are put into situations where they have to rely on a female officer to back them up knowing full well that the female officer didn't have to meet the same physical standards that he did. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2009 6:21:57 PM | Cops and FireFighters <<< yum
thank you soo much for all that ytou do and all that you risk for those you do not even know     | |
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Posted: 3/17/2009 3:46:05 PM | | LOL Sore subject for me, I guess. Firefighteres and cops, I have been involved with both and trust me, MOST, not ALL, but MOST, as in 95% are cheaters and liars. The men whoa ren't, are the exception to the rule. Friends, family members, myself- There are too many stories to tell but the woman wants the perfect life with a firefighter, and all the perks that come with it. well, some of those perks are women who throw themselves at firefighters or men in uniform, and alot can not refuse it. We have 2 stations around me, 1 where there are 180 firefighters employed and the other where there are 30 employed. I have heard from friends of firefighters and coworkers who ALL talk about each other and 1 even said that 95% of them have girlfriends on the side. They can not be trusted, they lie, they cheat, and they are arrogant and selfish. That's going by my experience and the situations with friends and family. Big mistake if you think that you will live happily ever after. Yeah, I'm bitter. I have a right to be. I am not a dirty person but if I told you my story, you wouldn't believe it anyway. My advice, is just to stay away from them as much as you can. They might look good in uniform but they have wives and kids and a whole lot of trouble. They're pros at what they do- and I don't mean just their jobs. Their personal lives are Sh*it because of it. And of course there will be probably be lots of "You're wrong, And "I don't do that". It doesn't matter. I've been involved with this for years and I've heard from coworkers themselves about what goes on at stations. Just beware is all I'm saying. | |
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Posted: 3/17/2009 4:56:57 PM | | I love my job day in and day out, and will never quit. I've been a firefighter for 7 years now following many generations in my family. Anyway, today being a firefighter is a little different. When it comes to having a girlfriend/wife, it gets harder for some time. Working crazy hours, all kinds of shifts, sometimes not being able to see your lady for days at a time. And then there is the worry of the firefighter/cops not coming home. | |
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Posted: 3/17/2009 6:02:54 PM | lonely pod do you honestly believe that those SAME men if they were not cops are figherfighters would have been loyal ,faithful men? Hardly, our govenor just tepped down a year ago for getting caught cheating on his wife. Then Paterson steps up and says "oh yea before you guys find out and ruin me,i cheated on my wife to." So whats that say?
I have had 4 serious relationships in my life,only one of wich ended with her being faithfull. So i guess so far 75% of women are dirty liars and cheaters regardless of their profession? | |
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Posted: 3/17/2009 6:49:36 PM | | One rotten apple in a bushel does not make them all bad apples. Do some cops/firemen have issues, absolutely. Just like any other profession, and yes I do know what I am talking about my ex husband was a cop. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2009 7:37:39 AM | I love both actually. I guess because I am a Navy brat I tend to love men in uniform. I love cops but I absolutely fall over for Firemen. I think its that whole fairytale of a man rescuing you.
Love them and respect them. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2009 11:37:42 AM | | Lets not all forget the contract police and firefighters of which I was for many years before settling down. Most firefighters and police talk about being away for days at a time. I know from experience that we'd be away for months at a time and always working with things that the general service divisions were not trained to handle. The only difference was that we did it for the rush. And of course we loved the attention! lol | |
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Posted: 4/1/2009 9:05:07 AM |
Cops have low intelligence. They see world in black and white. Good vs evil. Nothing more than hired thugs
Thats funny, alot of agencies require a 4 year degree or a 2 year degree plus military/previous experiece in corrections to be an officer. When it come to LE they have to make black and white decisions. If there is a gray area its up to a judge/jury to decide. The officers are there to enforce the laws. Nothing more, nothing less | |
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Posted: 4/1/2009 9:43:25 AM | | thin blue/red line....im former military police, room mate retired firefighter, we know the love/hate for both of em and still are proud of what we did. however im kinda biased with 11 officers in my immediate family. ohh to healthy and in uniform again, not for the women or rush but to be there for the community. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2009 12:01:47 PM | I love a man in uniform! My opinion- men and women can become cops at an early age giving them the priviledge of holding a gun and a badge (and all the responsibility AND ego that go along with it) and frankly, some young cops I have encountered are just too immature. Cops think they have the license to do whatever they want. Drive drunk, disobey basic traffic laws and things like that. I'm not just saying, I've encountered it numerous times- friends and family are cops.
So I do show more love for firefighters in general but each person should be judged individually! | |
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Posted: 4/2/2009 7:10:46 PM | | I understand that the law can make policing difficult at times it is important so police are unable to abuse the powers the public bestows on them on the same note it is up to the public to understand their rights when encountering the police to make sure they are kept in check. even if it makes it harder to enforce the law some of the redundant crap on the street is enuf to make any one jaded. like any profession their are people who are good at their job and others who perform poorly i feel cops who make it an effort to become part of the commmunity they are patrolling and use some discretion with the power they are trusted with are cool and have my full support the guys who see the public as mere civillians our worse yet the enemy and get a kick out fining, or pushing people around, abusing their authority and yes even commiting crimes themselves and using a badg to cover it up or protect other officers are useless and build lots of public distrust. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2009 10:17:34 PM | | It could also be that they've always wanted to be one, realize that unless your screw up you've got a secure job, the benefits and retirement usually aren't too bad (even though one of the local agencies benefits went up $200 employee cost since Oct). You don't have to be a LEO in most states to carry a firearm, and its not something that gets used often anyway unless you're in a highcrime area. Even then its usually just drawn and not fired. Almost everyone breaks traffic laws when they think they can get away with it so you can't really count that. As far as authority goes, they do have it. It just depends on how they choose to use it. Its a high stress career, which unfortunately spills over into offduty time sometimes. | |
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Posted: 4/8/2009 11:04:30 PM | I'm a volunteer firefighter here in Australia, and I have to agree that some women may see it as very appealing, my experience is that it can put stress on relationships due to the very nature of the jobs, particularly in this part of the world. I think it payed a part in why my marriage ended.
Why volunteer? I do it because it makes me feel like a valued member of society, that when I go at least people can say I gave something back. That says more about me (I think) than any turn out gear or uniform. | |
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Posted: 4/11/2009 5:36:01 AM | I have a love/hate relationship with both cops and firefighters.
Cops:
I love the idea of their job. The idea that they are here to protect and serve us.
But if you want to know the reality, most cops are control freaks and at least borderline violent people. This is why they become cops in the first place. And in the end, this controlling nature prevents them from really "serving" the public. Every one that I know (and I know quite a few) are far more interested in putting their foot down and establishing dominance than either serving or protecting.
Firefighters:
Once again, I love what they do, but not necessarily why they are doing it.
While most firefighters I know aren't as bad as cops, they are still firefighters for what I like to consider "all the wrong reasons". They become firefighters to fuel their egos first and to save a life second. If you don't believe me, I challenge you to talk to a firefighter for half an hour. If you walk away without the sensation that he's an egomaniac, then you have either met a diamond in the rough, or you have a sorry sense of character (most likely the ladder). And as it is with any egotistical person, they are constantly looking for a means in which to maintain or even strengthen their egos. It's just the way the human mind works.
If you look at the divorce rate amongst firefighters and cops, it is staggering. The irony is that women end up divorcing them for the same reasons that they were once attracted to them. And while you will probably here the firefighters and cops blaming their divorce on stuff like crazy work hours, it's normally their overbearing dominance and egotistical characters that lead to their divorce. I mean, look at how many factory workers work crazy hours, yet the divorce rate with factory workers aren't normally as high. | |
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Posted: 4/11/2009 1:08:53 PM | My 16 yr old wanted to be either or. He's going for his internship for a Firefighter in high school. I actually have a large pic of him in his gear.
He wants to be a Marine also. I am proud and scared at the same time. He really wants a dangerous job. | |
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Posted: 4/11/2009 10:07:18 PM |
I have a love/hate relationship with both cops and firefighters.
Cops:
I love the idea of their job. The idea that they are here to protect and serve us.
But if you want to know the reality, most cops are control freaks and at least borderline violent people. This is why they become cops in the first place. And in the end, this controlling nature prevents them from really "serving" the public. Every one that I know (and I know quite a few) are far more interested in putting their foot down and establishing dominance than either serving or protecting.
Firefighters:
Once again, I love what they do, but not necessarily why they are doing it.
While most firefighters I know aren't as bad as cops, they are still firefighters for what I like to consider "all the wrong reasons". They become firefighters to fuel their egos first and to save a life second. If you don't believe me, I challenge you to talk to a firefighter for half an hour. If you walk away without the sensation that he's an egomaniac, then you have either met a diamond in the rough, or you have a sorry sense of character (most likely the ladder). And as it is with any egotistical person, they are constantly looking for a means in which to maintain or even strengthen their egos. It's just the way the human mind works.
If you look at the divorce rate amongst firefighters and cops, it is staggering. The irony is that women end up divorcing them for the same reasons that they were once attracted to them. And while you will probably here the firefighters and cops blaming their divorce on stuff like crazy work hours, it's normally their overbearing dominance and egotistical characters that lead to their divorce. I mean, look at how many factory workers work crazy hours, yet the divorce rate with factory workers aren't normally as high.
Sounds like you need to talk to some more LEOs and firefighters then. I'm a corrections officer and I've got totally different reason for going in that field than ego. I can retire and take home 75% of the average of my three highest earning years (not counting OT) before I'm 50. Get on with a good agency and the benefits aren't bad. Unless you really mess up you'll always have a job. Again, get on with a good agency and the pay isn't bad either. I also like jobs that are more hands on and that allow me to interact with others. I don't use my authority unless I have to. I find that talking to people like they're human works fine. I'm still using my authority, but in a passive way, if that makes any sense to you. For example, instead of telling someone to go to their room, I'll say "I need you to go to your room".
When it comes to divorce rates you can't compare LEOs to factory workers. I'll use your example of hours to start. Factory workers may have to work a late shift or a long shift, but they normall have set schedules. With LE your days off normally change and your shift may change depending on the agency. In LE you'll probably have to do doubles. You may not get to eat or go to the bathroom for several hours if stuff comes up. Factory workers also don't have no where near the stress that a LEO has. They don't have to deal with/witness things like domestic violence, fatal car crashes, homicides, rape, robbery, etc. They may have a boss yell at them, but they don't have to be cussed out and called racial slurs and still maintain a professional attitude. Factory workers don't have to worry about being shot at, stabbed, run over, or having human waste thrown at them. Also LEOs always have someone watching them just waiting for them to make a mistake so they can get him/her written up/fired or collect some money. Do some LEO have big ego issues? Yes, but you can't be a very passive person and do well in LE. It'll only get you or someone else hurt or killed. | |
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Posted: 4/11/2009 10:59:31 PM | i love being a firefighter even as a intern its awsome , its fun to put on the gear and go in save people or pets, and we take pride in what we do and do it safely.
i remember my first day of trainning to become a memeber of the ladder company which was climbing the 100 foot ladder to the bucket from top and bottom =) | |
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Posted: 4/12/2009 12:05:34 PM | I dunno, after hearing all about the Polish immigrant that recently got tasered 5 TIMES by the police at the Vancouver airport for being frustrated, and then hearing the officers invovled shamelessly LIE about what went on, and then of various shootings in which the cops took control of certain video footage and "accidentally" erased it, all the while claiming that the shooting was perfectly legit, cops are getting harder and harder to trust.
I personally have never had a a bad experience with a cop. Unless you count them never showing up when you actually NEED them to being a bad experience. In fact, I've personally known a few cops and firefighters. Most got in it for respect, the uniforms appeal, job security, their dad did it. All of them are alright people, but not necessarily anykind of spectacular people. They're certainly no better than any one else, as they sometimes imagine amongst themselves. Maybe they spend too much time dealing with trash to realize. I've known a fair number of non-cops/-firefighters who have risked their safety and wellbeing to help others in dangerous situuations ... with no training, no equipment, no back up, no accident insurance. It's easy to be "brave" when you have all of that going for you. It's easy to appear moral when you control the information and/or surround yourself with indecency
But in the final analysis, they're people. I generally tend to like people. But I don't see any reason to centre them out as somehow special ... be it "of unique quality" special or "shortbus" special. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2009 1:43:54 PM |
Thats funny, alot of agencies require a 4 year degree or a 2 year degree plus military/previous experiece in corrections to be an officer.
Now, I could be wrong but we just spent two weeks on this in one of my cj classes this semester and as far as I know, only the state of MN requires a 2 year degree to become a beat cop. Now, as for needing degrees to move on up to sergeant or detective or whatever, that I don't know. It's possible and probably true.
For some reason I've been thinking about this a lot today. Yes, a lot of cops deserve the bad reps they get. I have run into far more than my share of bad cops. But just like we get pissy when people generalize men or women or whatever, you just cannot make a generalization about cops across the board.
A good friend of mine is a cop. Is he old fashioned in his beliefs? Yes. Does he prefer to be dominant? Yes. Does that mean he's a liar and a cheater and a wifebeater? Nope.
I have to give them a lot more respect lately. These are people putting their life on the line for us everyday. Well, unless you live in like, Bohunk, Iowa (no offense lol).
It comes down to this. I may not like a majority I've run across. I sure as hell like them more in this state. But you HAVE to respect what they do. Or don't call them when you need them  | |
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Posted: 4/24/2009 8:57:03 PM | | hi... God bless our Firefighters, EMS workers and our Police men and women... warmly Mona | |
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Posted: 4/24/2009 9:06:28 PM | *shakes fist at the meatheads*
lol
*waves politely while they are looking* | |
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Posted: 4/24/2009 10:01:49 PM |
Now, I could be wrong but we just spent two weeks on this in one of my cj classes this semester and as far as I know, only the state of MN requires a 2 year degree to become a beat cop. Now, as for needing degrees to move on up to sergeant or detective or whatever, that I don't know. It's possible and probably true
Maybe its just in my area then that they want degrees. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2009 10:11:15 PM | | fl co you see how jso wants the cso program to be sqeaky clean boyscouts, but yet patrol have to have the 4 year with minor infractions. | |
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