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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 1/9/2008 5:48:17 PM | i didnt know this forums was based on wether pot was illegal or not hmmmmm funny how ppl change things around.
I am a non pot smoker and deal with pot smokers all the time. Sure there lack of memory aggravates me but would rather deal with one of them then a drunk. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 5:54:44 PM | I dated a girl once who had an occasional weed habit...meaning she would take a hit at a party.
Over time it went from occasional to smoking it all the time at her apartment. I wasn't a weed smoker so I never took part.
Eventually she moved on to coke and ended up in the hospital and later got worse and ended up in rehab. I pretty much ended things when she started doing coke.
Now I see pot smoking as a big red flag. Instant dealbreaker or turnoff. | |
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Posted: 1/10/2008 6:07:02 AM |
victimless crime, hillarious.
no more dangerous than the occasional puff of tobacco,,, apparently you missed the surgeon general's warning about the consumption of tobacco.
a few drinks can render you incapacitated. so when you get this way,, and then drive your car into a family driving in their minivan,, there certainly are victims
First of all, I would never argue that it should be legal for people to get stoned (on weed, alcohol, or any other substance) and drive around, so I'm not really sure what that part of your argument is about. I was talking about moderate use of a substance by adults in a responsible manner. Not everyone who consumes alcohol is idiotic and irresponsible enough to endanger others by driving drunk, and that holds true for marijuana users as well. People who drive while stoned (drunk,) provide kids with weed (booze,) get stoned (drunk) and harrass others, or who are otherwise irresponsible with their substances are a completely seperate breed from the otherwise responsible person who chooses to use marijuana (or alcohol or any other substance) in moderation and without endangering others to enhance their lives.
Yes, marijuana is illegal. No argument at all there, and that seems to be the real cause of your concern. Someone who is willing to break the law, any law, isn't for you. That is fine and a personal choice. Keep in mind, sodomy is still illegal in some places, though... 
To me, I'd rather have someone is able to make their own choices and who isn't content to simply sit back and allow someone else (whether it be the government, church, family, or anyone else) to take away control of their personal choices (as long as they aren't harming others) and dictate how they should live their lives.
I love my country, but don't trust my government enough to unquestioningly obey every law they pass. I wish I had the confidence they were always acting in my best interest, but I don't, and this is one of those issues where I flat out disagree with them. In cases like this, a bit of civil disobedience may be warranted.  | |
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Posted: 1/10/2008 6:14:38 AM | i didnt know this forums was based on wether pot was illegal or not hmmmmm funny how ppl change things around.
it wasnt actually changing anything, it was making a point within the thread. i.e, a different point of view. it is a natural progression of the dialogue that included a specific aspect of "non pot smokers handling the pot smoker"
the point was made that the non smoker had nothing to actually "handle" since they werent the person breaking the law. the point went further in that, the person that does break the law sees law breaking as "no problem". there was one responce to that point that went to the far extreme to counter.
see? its a dialogue about that point of the thread.
understandably you can miss that part if not all posts are read. that often happens because lets face it,,, who has that kinda time to endlessly sit and read that many posts? | |
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Posted: 1/10/2008 6:23:54 AM | First of all, I would never argue that it should be legal for people to get stoned (on weed, alcohol, or any other substance) and drive around, so I'm not really sure what that part of your argument is about.
well let me simply explain it for you.
your said it was a victimless crime. that just doesnt happen to be the truth weather you advocate not driving while stoned/drunk or not. the fact is ppl do drive while stoned and drunk,, and they make victims of the ppl they crash into.
ya know its funny, the same ppl that claim a little civil disobedience wont hurt anyone are the same ppl crying foul when they are held accountable in court for that "little bit of civil disobedience".. the ppl who bemoan the cops and governments intervention into these things are the same ppl who are most often in trouble with the law.
you have your viewpoint i have mine,, but mine wont ever cost me a dime in legal fees or fines, nor a moment locked up,, yours on the other hand cant claim that.
the whole point is simple,, breaking the law weather you agree with it or not is a problem. oh and that "moderation" idea,,,, consider how many ppl there are in the world, then multiply that number by the number of things they define moderation for. "one mans poison is another mans pleasure". what moderation is differs from one person and one situation to the next. there is no absolute to that. which again, IS A PROBLEM!
u r funny to read | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 1/10/2008 7:30:56 AM | It helps ADHD cases
boy i would sure like to see the clinicals on that one.
i certainly hope you are not advocating the use of pot by a ten yr old who is diagnosed adhd!
"medical people say otherwise. They don't know what there talking about"
well, umm yeah,, not only do they know what they are talking about they have very controlled clinical trials to back up their position,, what do you have?? a few kids smokin pot? or would these be adults who havent attempted any other pharmecutical means to address their adhd? please dont rail back with the typical rant about ritalin,, there more prescriptions available than the pure ritalin used in the past. many of which are transient drugs. | |
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Posted: 1/10/2008 7:49:31 AM | I can see that there is a communication or a logic problem going on here. Either you aren't making logical sense, or I'm misunderstanding what you are saying.
your said it was a victimless crime. that just doesnt happen to be the truth weather you advocate not driving while stoned/drunk or not. the fact is ppl do drive while stoned and drunk,, and they make victims of the ppl they crash into.
So are you arguing that anything which might impair driving abilities should be illegal, and that you would not date anyone who used anything that could potentially impair driving ability? Because if that is the case, it'll be tough to find a guy who doesn't have a cell phone, doesn't eat fast food,never drives while tired/stressed/or has something on his mind, etc.
"one mans poison is another mans pleasure". what moderation is differs from one person and one situation to the next. there is no absolute to that
Agreed, so why would you denigrate someone for partaking in one substance, when you list yourself as a social drinker? Because a couple of politicians 90 years ago decided one was good and one was evil? Seems pretty arbitrary to me...
ya know its funny, the same ppl that claim a little civil disobedience wont hurt anyone are the same ppl crying foul when they are held accountable in court for that "little bit of civil disobedience".. the ppl who bemoan the cops and governments intervention into these things are the same ppl who are most often in trouble with the law.
With all due respect, I don't really think you fully understand the concept of civil disobedience. Getting "caught" is kinda the point.
you have your viewpoint i have mine,, but mine wont ever cost me a dime in legal fees or fines, nor a moment locked up,, yours on the other hand cant claim that...
Thank God not everyone is that self centered, because if they were you and I wouldn't be able to freely have our disagreement on this issue, we'd still be wrapped up in the Vietnam war, African Americans would still be eating at separate diners and riding in the back of the bus, you wouldn't have the ability to vote, and we'd still be singing God Bless the Queen rather than the Star Spangled Banner... | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 1/10/2008 8:09:04 AM | Just the title of this thread alone makes me pause and smile to myself...why in god's green earth would I want anyone
to "handle" me? What?!? Am I hazardous waste? A fragile object of some sort? An extraterrestrial alien who might
contaminate you with my diseases? A "special case" who must be "handled" with care? LOL!!
I don't want anyone to have to "handle" me.....I can handle myself very well on my own thank you very much;)
But I guess all that "handling" can goes both ways. I myself can't seem to be able to "handle" people who might be suffering from paranoia, self righteousness, hypocrisy, or people who suffer from what I call the "sheep syndrome"...but that's my problem.
So I guess it all comes out even in the end, doesn't it??
People who can't handle people like me laugh and make fun of them and love LOVE to question their intelligence, integrity, honesty...etc...blah blah blah ad nauseum. And then people like me will turn around and do the exact same thing to "them".
SO....I guess we're even then. You stay away from me and I'll stay far away from all of you perfect people.....how's that? 
Love and peace to all 
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 1/10/2008 8:26:37 AM | Nada....a person who never smokes marijuana is not an "...up-tight, freek..." , for your information.
Also, I have absolutely NO interest in getting to know a person who smokes that drug, and would NEVER even consider having a relationship with one. Generally, people who smoke that drug are not in charge of their mental capacities and thus they are not capable of being in an emotionally and mentally healthy relationship which is the only kind of relationship I have time for. Furthermore, they are boring conversationalists, not to mention the gross smell. I think that those who want to indulge in that mindless, gross activity should actually find each other and have a relationship.  | |
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Posted: 1/10/2008 8:28:45 AM | Agreed, so why would you denigrate someone for partaking in one substance, when you list yourself as a social drinker
umm, im not breaking any laws by socially drinking. and since i take a cab if i think i may be drinking when i go out, im being responsible too. if i dont take that cab, i simply dont drink.
clearly you completely misunderstand because this little ditty isnt at all close to what i said
"So are you arguing that anything which might impair driving abilities should be illegal",
With all due respect, I don't really think you fully understand the concept of civil disobedience. Getting "caught" is kinda the point.
no,, again you misunderstand, ( you seem to do that a lot)
civil disobedience for ones personal pleasure is a far cry from the sit ins of the 60s opposing the war (that was civil disobedience) that spoke to a greater social conciousness than your desire to be high. smoking pot simply because you dont see it as a problem is hardly the same thing. sitting at a lunch counter to protest segregation is hardly in the same catagory as pot smoking. your extreme notions dont play well anywhere if you want to be taken seriously. "getting caught" is not the point,, drawing attention to an injustice is THE POINT!, affecting change for the greater good, IS THE POINT.
you have your viewpoint i have mine,, but mine wont ever cost me a dime in legal fees or fines, nor a moment locked up,, yours on the other hand cant claim that...
Thank God not everyone is that self centered,
that isnt self centered, its the absolute truth. your point of view on this matter and your use of weed does in fact open you up to costing you much more than a dime if you get caught and prosecuted. my point of view makes it impossible to cost me anything in legal fees as a result of personal use. it could cost me plenty in car repair, injuries and court fees to if i was to persue the person legally who crashed into me while high from pot. again, your "victimles crime" thing is blown out of the water. | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 1/10/2008 8:43:51 AM | Well, kuddlebum....that's about the easiest question I've EVER been asked....and the answer is, I would choose neither of those doors! | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 1/10/2008 9:00:16 AM | | When you're seeing someone, or with friends, or in a relationship, it's important that people are able to have fun together, and not feel too awkward around each other, like feeling out of place. If your friend or partner is comfortable being around you if she's not a pot smoker then great, if your friend or partner wants to join in then it's even groovier, but if your friend or partner feel uncomfortable then smoking pot seems to detract from the relationship. Everything should be copacetic | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 1/10/2008 9:00:31 AM | Okay, after this, I'm not getting baited into any more discussions around this with you, because the hipocrisy is so deep it is threatening to drown me. (Besides, this isn't a forum on whether or not to legalize.)
Do you really think Rosa Parks "intended" to create a social movement? Do you think she intended to draw attention to the issue? Or is it more accurate to say she got fed up with what she saw as an unjust situation and took a personal stand?
My point is that, personally, I do see marijuana prohibition as a major social injustice. Families are being torn apart and lives are being destroyed by this nonsensical war on drugs. People with major illnesses in extreme pain are being denied care that can alleviate their suffering. If that isn't a social injustice, I don't know what is. If that doesn't speak to a higher social consciousness, I don't know anything that does.
My government has no business telling me what I can/can not put into my body as long as I am not harming others.
IMHO, you have a fairly skewed view of what a government's role is and how change is brought about in a democratic society.
(PS. I never said I am a pot smoker, you made that assumption. Check out my profile if you'd like...) | |
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:33:19 AM | | uh... i dont smoke weed so if i were to meet someone and i find out he does... it would def be a reason to stop seeing him. ive been on that road and i have opted to not go thru it any more. just like college. been there, done that, never again. | |
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Posted: 1/10/2008 10:33:41 AM | My point is that, personally, I do see marijuana prohibition as a major social injustice
i was actually not expecting you to seriously admit that you actually equate things like the civil rights movement to your desire to toke up. that you have,, well, theres no reasoning with someone that has reality so askew. you= a generalized term relating to those who partake, not meaning you personally. but since you were so adamently defending it, it would not be so far off base to figure you were speaking in the first person.
just for the record,,, when ms parks didnt give up her seat, yes, she was making a social statement. when asked about it she said initially she was going to just give up the seat, but something in her gut told her not to. so ,, yes she was in fact sitting down for social conciousness and change. that you even remotely equate that to smoking pot is ludicrous. | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 1/25/2008 9:39:32 AM | | Well, I don't mind them...Pot smokers...I some times smoke pot myself.....very rare....usually like to have couple drags with a beer. But, that is it. I have a low tolorance to the stuff. Gives me the munchies really bad.lol | |
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Posted: 1/25/2008 9:49:48 AM |
i like to think of myself as fairly open minded and so when i met a guy for the first date he told me that he smoked pot more than fags
You must be English , because smoking fags has a whole different meaning North America!! | |
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Posted: 2/23/2008 1:15:27 AM | So you made your decision that she was intolerable after she got stoned on the second date.
How do you know she wasn't just having a bad day, maybe she was just nervous or something?
It sounds like you were being a bit judgmental. She is probably better off without you. | |
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Posted: 2/23/2008 1:21:51 AM | You call yourself a "peace" officer, but yet you are anxious and willing to beat someone down, cuff them and throw them in jail for smoking a harmless plant?
The word peace has no place in your statement. | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 2/23/2008 1:29:26 AM | My take on the pot smoking is this:
I don't do it, never have, never will and don't really care to be around it. If my friends do it from time to time, then that is their choice, but I would not enter into an intimate relationship with anyone who uses, even occasionally. In terms of the whole legalizing pot debate, it cannot be made legal until there is an effective method of determining if someone has been driving under the influence. | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 2/23/2008 1:32:45 AM | | Enough with the "harmless plant", "it's natural" comments. Opium is natural, as is tobacco, poison ivy and lots of other dangerous and unhealthy plants. Crap is natural too but I certainly would light it on fire and shove it in my mouth! | |
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