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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 4:31:13 PM | i think everybody must of realised that,only most people love a debate,one good thing about following up on these forums ya tend to get to know what sort of people (WE ALL) are
' lol'nobody should take any of whats put up here as its all different peoples opinions and everybody has the right to them (they dont hurt if y dont let em !) and in a joking manner who says the chocolate eating driver doesnt have a heart attack whilst driving or having accident why unwrapping choc an bein temporarily distracted from screen, lol its all petty an should all be taken lighthearted but yeah i totally agree with ya dawn on all accounts love an light | |
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Posted: 11/16/2005 4:31:27 PM | From Health Canada:
There are risks to marijuana use, both over the long and short term.
who did these test?..and i went to health canada and couldnt find anything you rote..let alone any test proof..only a few test have been done on apes and some people..allready posted if you didnt read them allready..and why is canada pushing to legilize it too? i notice there tring to become the 2nd country to have legal weed
Marijuana can lower inhibitions and impair judgment. Lowered inhibitions have been known to result in unprotected sex, increased possibilities of sexually transmitted diseases, and potential unwanted pregnancies. Marijuana may interfere with human reproduction. Some research shows a decline in sex hormones in young boys and possible disturbances of the menstrual cycle in girls. In the critical early stages of pregnancy, smoking may be harmful to the baby.
lmao...so weed is the reason for unprotected sex?..lmao..thats the crazest thing i ever heard..lol..thats as bad as when they said back in the 1950's that weed caused black people to rape and kill...were did ya dig that crap up?..lmao
2) POT FOUND NOT TO CAUSE FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME
A new study of children born to marijuana-smoking
mothers found no link between marijuana exposure and the
birth defects of fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS). The new study,
by Dr. Susan J. Astley of the University of Washington,
published in the January, 1992 issue of Pediatrics,
contradicted a 1982 study by Dr. Ralph Hingson, in which
prenatal exposure to marijuana was found to increase the risk
of FAS.
Hingson's results, which have not been replicated, have
been questioned on various methodological grounds, in
particular the difficulty of controlling for combined drinking
and pot use.
The new study looked for facial deformities
symptomatic of FAS in 40 children whose mothers had smoked
marijuana heavily during pregnancy and 40 controls, It found no
association between marijuana and FAS, but deformities were
observed in children of women who drank 2 ounces of alcohol
per day or took cocaine.
there again..alcohall being most of the trouble...for over 50 years they be tring to find somthing bad with weed..but they havent..they try to use words like linked to this or that.....i wanna see test proofs....not linked too..or could cause...and i wanna see a up to date study..not one done 30 years ago to try and scare people from doing somthing illegal..i dont condone anyone smoking anything while pregnat. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2005 4:50:50 PM | I have found that it doesn't work well. The two can't communicate well because they are of two different minds...literally. Plus, the one smoking usually feels things in a more intense, pleasurable way. Their inhibitions are lowered, their humor is enhanced, they are quite hungry, and horny. All of this could be a little much for the one that isn't "high". Then, when you throw into the mix that sometimes pot can bring on feelings of paranoia, it could be pretty dibilating.
It's probably best for both to be high, or not high. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2005 5:10:10 PM |
Ekko, YOU just showed YOUR IGNORANCE and inability to even grasp the conversation. Did I say anyone was driving a vehicle? NO Did I say I smoke and drive..NOPE! Don't believe in it. You were too biased and judgemental to even read the question correctly. But that's ok, I understand. I politely asked a question and you couldn't answer it with an INTELLIGENT response so you chose to try and put me down. GOOD JOB. LMAO As far as them being idiotic comparisons, far from it, each has a mind altering effect. I was simply trying to give you something to think about, I wasn't asking you to smoke, date a smoker, or even condone it. But maybe that is far out of your grasp of reality as well. Why did you take it so offensively that you felt the need to make a slur towards me? Can you not handle someone asking you a question? But that's fine. With your type of thinking, I'd rather NOT hear your answers. It's funny, I have not singled anyone out and tried to talk "crap" about them, even stated that I understand that it's YOUR choice, I just wanted to know how someone could rule out one mind altering substance without ruling out the others. I was making a point. But, yeah, I think you missed that. NOW I am singling someone out and making comments, sure, I have that right to defend myself. YOU are someone I would NEVER have as an aquaintance in my life, not due to your choices in life but due to your attitude. Someone who can't even discuss an issue without talking crap and responding so irrational doesn't belong in my life. You really need to rethink your interactions with other people.
Yeah - what she said. | |
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Msg: 105 | |
| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 5:18:17 PM |
funny how most of those people who claim to be so brilliant while stoned have 'jack of all trades' (meaning: "unemployed" ? )
No, actually what it means is that UNLIKE YOURSELF I am not limited in my capabilities. I do not only perform one task of which generates me revenue. I'm a hustler and do whatever I can to make a dollar. I own a production company and a satellite company.
www.doctorsatellite.com <--shameless self-promotion 
Whether it means repairing people's vehicles (that's a side job btw), their computers, hacking satellite t.v, designing graphics and websites, my company also provides Dj's for any/all occasions (ex weddings, etc.) or corporate and private event planning.
That is what I do.
Aside from that I also buy cars that need repairs (another side job), fix them (body AND mechanical work) and flip them for a profit.
Next year I move into my new house in Florida where I will be venturing into real estate and property development.
I see you have PROFESSIONAL as your job title. A professional at what? What is it you do? Professional sewage cleaner? Profession leaf raker? Garbage men are also "professionals" in their own mind's eye!
lmao
STATE YOUR CASE!
Aside from that all, I'm very mechanically and technically inclined individual. Though I never made claim to brilliance. All I stated is that drugs do alter your mentality and perception of things. They can AND DO elevate one's way of thinking. Think about it, they increase the rate of which the receptors and neurotransmitters (fires) work. It's like the piston of an engine firing faster. What happens in that case? You gain more revolutions per min (which is the rate at which an engine is measured) - the engine works faster.
Same thing applies with the receptors and neurotransmitters working more!
It's not rocket science. Perhaps you should go further your education rather that arguing about things you're blatently ignorant about!
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Msg: 106 | |
| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 5:25:58 PM |
Many people are convinced they have 'deep thoughts' while stoned..often they are just so f*cked up they think that pondering the inner meaning of a Crayola crayon is 'deep'.
Let me ask you a question. Have you even been under the influence to make any kind of statement such as that?
IM NOT SAYING IF SOMEONE LACKS INTELLIGENCE OR DEPTH TO THEIR CHARACTER THEN SMOKING (OR BEING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ANYTHING) WILL MAKE THEM BRILLIANT OR ANY SUCH NON-SENSE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT FROM WITHIN TO BEGIN WITH. FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE INTELLIGENT, THOSE THAT HAVE DEPTH, IT CAN AID IN THE RELEASE OF A DEEPER THOUGHT PROCESS AND EXPRESSION.
GO PICK UP A BOOK FROM TIME TO TIME. WATCH SOME EDUCATIONAL TV.
GET OUT OF THE BARN (AND ISOLATION) YOU DWELL IN AND INTERACT WITH OTHERS.
YOU JUST MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING NOW AND THEN. | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 5:28:10 PM | ^^
probably more than I would by raving & foaming at the mouth (figuratively) on POF forums..
I thought dope smokers were supposed to be 'relaxed, chilled' people..you certainly discredit that view.. | |
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Raven1
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Joined: 9/14/2004
Msg: 110 | |
| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 5:36:32 PM | Kerry I'm not insulting you when commenting on you being closed-minded. I am just staing my observation.
IM SORRY BUT YOU ARE NOT OPEN-MINDED. I DON'T THINK YOU TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT ENTAILS. THOSE EXAMPLES YOU HAVE GIVEN TO ME JUST PROVED MY POINT.
YOU WERE HOMOPHOBIC UNTIL A FRIEND.......
YOU WERE AGAINST ABORTION UNTIL A FRIEND.....
DO YOU NOT SEE WHERE THIS IS LEADING?
IT TOOK CIRCUMSTANCE (A TURN OF EVENTS) FOR YOU TO OPEN YOUR MIND TO CHANGE OR AT LEAST AN ALTERNATE PATTERN OF THOUGHT!
OPEN-MINDED PEOPLE DO NOT NEED THAT. HENCE THE TERM "OPEN-MIND".
THEY HAVE THEIR BELIEFS AND/OR OPINIONS....HOWEVER, THEIR MIND IS ALREADY OPEN TO NEW POSSIBILITIES. THEY ARE OPEN AND WILLING TOWARDS THE POSSIBILITY OF CHANGE.
THEY DID NOT NEED A TURN OF EVENTS TO ALLOW THEM TO SEE THAT LIFE IS NOT BLACK AND WHITE. RIGHT AND WRONG, BUT THERE ARE SHADES OF GRAY AS WELL. | |
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Raven1
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Msg: 112 | |
| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 5:51:05 PM | Well lucky, I see we're resulting to the old barbaric means of battling with insults. You bean-headed little nitwit.
Don't talk about "unattractive" - have you looked in the mirror lately?
lol ok that was a low blow - was just fighting fire with fire (the insult calling me a jackass for no reason).
This thread has gotten far too serious and I was just trying to add some humor I suppose.
You claim that "you can still keep track of time when drinking".
People that smoke MJ cannot? I don't know where you get your facts from!
You also claim that "your stomach doesn't hurt like hell when drinking".
Smoking MJ doesn't hurt one's stomach. As a matter of fact it has been known to help combat nausea. Once again I don't know where you get your facts from!
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM THOSE OF YOU THAT SPEAK NEGATIVELY ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS IS THIS:
HAVE YOU EVER TRIED IT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT FORM FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE? OR ARE YOU GOING ON WHAT YOU HEARD?
IF IT'S FROM WHAT YOU'VE HEARD IT'S JUST IGNORANCE DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU LACK "FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE" TO DISCUSS IT.
I CAN GO AND SAY SUSHI IS GROSS, IT TASTES LIKE $HIT. (EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NEVER TRIED IT BUT I'VE HEARD THAT IS THE CASE). OR THAT BEER TASTES LIKE PISS.
BUT I CAN'T TRULY DISCUSS SOMETHING WITHOUT KNOW THE FACTS AND HAVIGN SOME EXPERIENCE.
SURE, JIMMY'S BROTHER'S FIRST WIFE'S SECOND COUSIN'S YOUNGEST SISTER SAID SHE TRIED BEER AND IT TASTES LIKE PISS (AND MABYE IT DOES FOR HER) BUT DOES THAT MEAN IT WOULD FOR ME TO?
Do you get where I am going with this?
For some Marijuana might not provide ANY benefits. Everyone IS different in certain aspects. The composition and chemical make up of everyone's mind is slightly different from one person to the next.
If you have tried something and have found NO benefit from it than so be it. HOWEVER, you can't knock those that have tried it and have received benefit from it. | |
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Joined: 9/14/2004
Msg: 113 | |
| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 6:16:56 PM | I am against it because I think any person who feels so inadequate that they feel the need to consume a substance alters their personality is a very sad person who needs help. When someone deals with their reality by hiding from it, instead of dealing with it, they are teaching themselves to be weak and unimportant.
Try learning to love who you are without herbal courage and maybe you will find that your opinion changes.
First of al who said anything hiding from reality?
You're still within the full grasp of reality when under the influence of MJ. MJ is not a dissociatve drug like say for instance KATAMINE is.
You really know not what you speak of, it's sad really. I mean you were brought up (most likely) to believe that drugs are bad and that you are to stay away from them when you were a child I'm sure. As most people believing everything they hear and just going on what they are told (that's what I meant by conforming btw people...conforming to what YOU ARE TOLD). They remain with that belief not knowing any different.
I was never told "GO SMOKE A JOINT". For me it had nothing to do with conforming to ANYONE or ANYTHING or any STANDARD. It had to do with my own personal curiosity of my own mind and body and different states that may be achieved though it.
When I reached an age where I was fairly mature (in both mind and body) and capable of making EDUCATED decisions I decided to read up on the use of such drugs as MJ. MJ was the first as a matter of fact. I was always into chemistry from a young age so that drew me in even more.
We all have a chemical make up and different chemicals react differently with us. MOST of us have used one form of chemical or another at some time in our lives. Whether it was a painkiller for a headache or some other form of physical pain, or penicillin to aid in the body's healing process, or whatever else you may have been perscribed. Even some of those perscription drugs that have benefited you when you needed them have caused ill effect towards others. Think about lives that have been changed for the worse by mankinds testing procedures. All the drugs we have today from those pharmacutical companies had to have been tested before FDA approval. Through the means of their testing do you not think they have had fatalities? They still do today! Fatal reactions to those patients that were misperscribed or those that just didn't react well towards it. YET, it's ok for those drugs to be within our society. WHY? Because they government labels that they are ok. How many overdoses have not been had by children getting into their parents medicine cabinet?
Have you heard of anyone dying from MJ?
Other drusg perhaps but not that. Even MOST exstacy deaths were not a result of the drug directly but in dehydration. Has it's user made sure to get plenty of fluids such fatal occurance may not have occured!
MOST drugs (chemicals) can have either or a positive or negative effect(s) on the human body. There are different variables to factor in and therefore one result CANNOT be concluded.
As for feelings of inadeqacy, some may use drugs due to that yes. I will not argue with that. If that is the case for them then perhaps they need some help in boosting their level of self esteem. HOWEVER, not everyone does things for the same reason.
Speaking of inadeqacy, is that the reason you hide yourself on here?
I see pics but one is you hiding your face and the other seems to be some silly pic you obtained on the net.
Do you feel so "weak" and "unimportant" that you cannot fully and proudly present yourself?
If you have to hide on here what would you do in actual "in-person" social environments?
As for me, I don't need herbal courage or any other kind for that matter. As I stated earlier, my life is not one I feel "I need to escape from" as you put it.
I took up smoking pot and other drugs at the age of 16. That pretty much lated thoughout until about 20-21.
I did it for nobody but myself and I am the person I am today because of my past. I'm not ashamed of my past. Who's to say I would have been the same person I am today if it weren't for that past!?
p.s as for "conspiracy theorist" I think you perhaps spend a little too much time in front of your tv. It as nothing to do with any belief of any conspiracy theory or otherwise!
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Raven1
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Joined: 9/14/2004
Msg: 114 | |
| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 6:38:18 PM |
As far as running . .. people do get "hooked" on endorphin rushes, but--hey--I don't see anyting wrong with that!
Why do you not see a problem with that? Is it because Endorphins are naturally produced in the body? If that is your answer then my rebuttal is this:
Testerone is naturally produced in the body as well but I'm sure you would have a problem with someone injecting themselves with steroids now wouldn't you!?
Why do people enjoy doing things that bring them pleasure? Rides in amusements parks for example, going to a hockey or basketball game? Car races? Why do they enjoy being right there in the action? Why? Because of the rush it brings them. Because of that elated feeling they get. That is also a high, it's just that the chemicals that bring about that high are produced in the brain as opposed to being a "foreign" chemical brought forth from an external source. | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 6:46:38 PM |
some people sure love to "rave" about things and foam at the mouth.. (even though supposedly dope makes them 'calm' and 'chillaxed'...) ..maybe they SHOULD smoke a few big fat spliffs to calm themselves down a bit..If that works for them.. | |
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Raven1
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Joined: 9/14/2004
Msg: 117 | |
| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 6:54:24 PM | [QUOTE]
probably more than I would by raving & foaming at the mouth (figuratively) on POF forums..
I thought dope smokers were supposed to be 'relaxed, chilled' people..you certainly discredit that view..
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OK SO YOU HAVE JUST PROVEN YOURSELF ILLITERATE (IT'S FUNNY HOW PEOPLE SEE/OR READ WHAT THEY WANT AND NOT EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF THEM)
DID I CLAIM TO BE A POT SMOKER?
I SAID I USED TO MR. ILLITERATE IGNORAMUS!!!
WHEN I WAS 16!
LOOK AT MY PROFILE, AM I 16 NOW?
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 6:56:17 PM | | Everyone will have a different opinion on this. But as for me, I would not want to get into a relationship with a women who smokes pot. I would also rather her not to smoke at all. What smokers do not realize is that to a non smoker they taste like an ash tray during kissing. | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 6:57:34 PM |
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM THOSE OF YOU THAT SPEAK NEGATIVELY ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS IS THIS:
HAVE YOU EVER TRIED IT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT FORM FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE? OR ARE YOU GOING ON WHAT YOU HEARD?
IF IT'S FROM WHAT YOU'VE HEARD IT'S JUST IGNORANCE DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU LACK "FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE" TO DISCUSS IT.
I CAN GO AND SAY SUSHI IS GROSS, IT TASTES LIKE $HIT. (EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NEVER TRIED IT BUT I'VE HEARD THAT IS THE CASE). OR THAT BEER TASTES LIKE PISS.
BUT I CAN'T TRULY DISCUSS SOMETHING WITHOUT KNOW THE FACTS AND HAVIGN SOME EXPERIENCE.
SURE, JIMMY'S BROTHER'S FIRST WIFE'S SECOND COUSIN'S YOUNGEST SISTER SAID SHE TRIED BEER AND IT TASTES LIKE PISS (AND MABYE IT DOES FOR HER) BUT DOES THAT MEAN IT WOULD FOR ME TO?
the louder you scream (or type all in caps) the more valid your arguments, of course.. | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 7:00:24 PM | | I used to LOVE smoking pot when I was in my teens and early 20's. It was the beginning of a long road of substance abuse. I am 38 now, a recovering alcoholic, and don't smoke the ganja. Actually I tried it a few years ago and it made me super paranoid. In terms of "handling" a pot smoker, I date one now, though she's taking in hiatus due to drug testing at the school where she teaches. Hey, if you like to smoke I so go for it. My hat's off to you. I very much dislike generalizations, and I see alot of that going on here. Raven's right that every person/mind is different.... Who am I to judge what other people do? Best wishes to all, tokers and non-tokers from South Florida, Ben. PS Saw Little Feat on Fri night sing the Jamaican Theme Song as they called it...Roll another one, just like the other one. | |
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Raven1
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Joined: 9/14/2004
Msg: 121 | |
| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 7:00:55 PM |
Raven - I just read your profile. Do you believe your own bullshit, or do you need to take mediction?
The only one full of shit here is you. I haven't read one intelligence post from you yet. Not one sentence that didn't have more then 4 letter words.
Imbecile
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 7:02:54 PM | well acording to "Dr. Raven" all of us poor 'imbeciles' can improve our intelligence vastly by smoking some ganja..
light up. mon!
quit the charmer, is Mr. Raven.. | |
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Raven1
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Joined: 9/14/2004
Msg: 123 | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 7:08:41 PM | Mr. Raven is so incredibly, vastly more intelligent and superior to any other human being to ever occupy the face of the Earth..
that the only partner that could ever possibly be good enough for him would be.. ..himself..
Thus, I wish him much joy as he f*cks himself.. | |
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| can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 11/16/2005 7:12:17 PM |
Is that to say that you think as a human being you are above any other due to your actions (or lack thereof)?
This is a beautiful statement!! 
Some of the nicest, kindest people I've ever met were pot smokers!! They were, and are, very Intelligent and hard working people!!! They pay their taxes and leave other people alone! Some people like to believe pot smokers are bad or criminal minded; they automaticly look down their snout at them, without even looking at what kind of person they really are!! Nobody is better or worse than people who smoke pot. It is a non-smokers right to stay away from people who do smoke pot; but not to put them down for it in any way!!
To answer the main question: Yes and no; some can handle it and some cannot!!  | |
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