| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 10:31:15 AM |
How can you not agree with anything redhair stated when thats all we see. Im not trying to be bit**y, I love you guys...but how many pictures do you have posted sporting your HOOTERS tshirt loud and clear!
OMG, you have no clue do you? I have a hooters shirt so i'm a womaniser just out for sex. Don't care about love and just want mindless sex slaves?
You don't know me for s*it, so don't you dare judge me.
I was just saying that no we are NOT all about that, do you like it when guys generalise all women?, paint them all with the same brush?
Also, read what I said, I said she couldn't be more wrong about ME, not every guy, because sadly enough I know a lot of guys who ARE like what she described.
But i'm not one of them, and take great offense to being put in that category.
She is VERY bitter and chances are has damn good reason to be, but because of what some guys have done to her , I and every other guy who has never even seen her, ever ,have to be made to be villains??? You don't see something wrong there?
I sincerely hope i'm reading you wrong. That you don't honestly in your heart believe all men the world over just want the things she described, because i would hate to see another bitter person.
Life is too precious to be bitter. seriously. i know from personal experience.
I hope she comes out of it someday and finds someone to treat her with the respect that everybody deserves.
With that, i have said my piece. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 10:50:52 AM | im sorry i didnt mean to offend you.
All i was saying was when i looked at your profile that stuck out. I would never judge you before i got to know you...but SOME bitter people would, because the first thing we see when we look at you is boobs boobs.
i know there are men out there that arent womanizers. I just lost one. thats why im here.
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 11:56:21 AM |
im sorry i didnt mean to offend you.
All i was saying was when i looked at your profile that stuck out. I would never judge you before i got to know you...but SOME bitter people would, because the first thing we see when we look at you is boobs boobs.
i know there are men out there that arent womanizers. I just lost one. thats why im here.
=-(
It's cool, it's in the past and forgotten. I can see why you might think that about me tho.
I was suggested to spice up my profile with pics like that to get some actual attention lol
By females too. :P
I'm sorry to hear you are here for sad reasons. Chin up. I believe it all works out in the end, and it's taken me a LONG time to be able to say that and actually believe it.
Cheers!
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 11:59:35 AM | | I'm really not sure what this world is coming too, seems alot of people men/women are into playing games. This online dating thing is just another way to screw with peoples emotions. I'm starting to wonder if all the pain and heart ache is worth even going through again...I think being single and just enjoying your life alone is better then playing games all together... | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 12:16:18 PM | A relationship is what YOU make it.
Some people only want talk / email ... some want friends ... some want "F" buddies ... some want different things. All are relationships. All are sharing something of themselves with others. All are fulfilling to different measures. So a realtionship can be many things.
It tends to go that after a divorce or severe breakup most people want a period of cooling off. No immediate re-attaching... Some never want a marriage again. Females are more likely to want to jump back into the fire than men.
Men will be cautious, and will be friends, then good friends, then maybe further as time convinces, but advertising that a full fledged relationship is what you are after can scare away a lot and bring in the wrong thing.
Dating and friends are a good first step. Looking for long term first up does not change this. The process is still there to go through ... so this means there will be a lot of short term to get to a long term ... if that is even what is realy wanted.
Sometimes people are in fast paced lives and just want intimacey and talk and understanding, you know, friendship, from the opposite sex, without the locks on. It can be very fulfilling and exceptionally wonderful for both and have a no regrets and no one hurts feeling. There is always a degree of commitment, but the involved have to decide how much.
But ... they are all relationships and all are fulfilling to the degree desired and all involve sharing a bit of ones self. That is human. That is life. That is a good thing!
Everyone needs relationships and intimacey ... the degrees of involvement are what differs, but none are wrong, just different. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 12:16:58 PM | | For me it goes back to getting hurt so bad in a previous relationship from years ago. There's nothing I would like more than to be in a commited relationship, but the image of your wife on the dinning room floor with her ankles up around her ears while some guy's pounding away at her is kinda of hard to shake. And you're right , but it does goes both ways. I got blasted by a woman because I would'nt have sex with her the first time out. But I still have hope for a "normal" relationship. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 1:18:02 PM | I scare women, seems that I am too set in my ways, where women just think I am a piece of meat on special.
I only wish a woman was that serious in wanting a relationship.
But remember, your on the net, you might be dating someone, but then some sexy hunk messages you and you start thinking " Hmm, maybe this guy will treat me better, spend more money on me"
So you jump men, the 2nd or 3rd guy treats you like crap, and you try to go back to the guy you dump before.
It's not a women being picky, she's just looking for the Bigger Better Deal, and 9 out of 10 times, she's wrong.
Why do you think so many women on here complain about being used for sex, cause they were thinking or believing everything that Joe-Scum had to say when he was only on here for one reason only | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 4:54:07 PM | Why not darn those women that don't pay child support and want to support their kids, Pandor? I think child support money should be equal, paid by both parties, female and male, then put into an escrow account to be used only for expenses actually for the children. Extra funds could be put towards a college fund.
If the guy has custody of the kids and the woman has more money, of COURSE she should put it towards supporting the kids.
And I do think it's sad that so many men have been burned and are afraid to jump back into a relationship again. I would be too. I wish things were different, but hey, life will never be perfect.. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 4:58:41 PM |
I have been keeping a small personal survey and I have found that 90% of the time that I am declined is based on my physical appearance.
Highly doubtful. Have you seen your pictures lately?
Unless you're trying to get with supermodels.. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 5:03:04 PM | | There are a few of us out there who do want a steady relationship. It seems the door swings both ways on this matter. Women tend to fly away when you want to get serious too. Or in other cases they think something is wrong when you would rather spend time with them instead of rushing into sex. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 5:14:32 PM | FOR STILLLOOKING FOR YOU 2...
wrong wrong wrong. some of us want it all...sex AND the relationship. i want it all..and will not give up until i find it. As for the men that feel they have been "burned" by having to pay child support...honey..any man that feels its unfair that he has to support his children is not much of a man after all, now is he? And there is a wonderful little piece of paper called a "cohabitation agreement" that can be completed before a couple decides to move in together. I am considering it should the situation arise..cause guess what..i want to protect myself as well.
Sorry..i think women are a little more deeper than you give them credit for...we want the sex, damn straight we do. but we enjoy your company and would like to share other things with you as well. is that so bad?? | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 5:30:09 PM | Or, force the custodial parent to keep receipts to prove the money supported JUST the kids.
That might help.
Bitter bitter bitter men. Come on. Child support is not for just clothes for the children, shoes and food. It also is used to keep them warm, to have lights on where they are, to put the gas in the vehicle which drives them to hockey practice or school or whatever, the school trips etc etc etc....
I get so tired of men who begrudgingly pay child support and whine cause the woman is using it to buy herself good wine or new clothes or whatever. If the children are loved and being taken care of, have a warm bed to sleep in and their tummies are full and are happy, isn't that worth WAY MORE than a father could ever pay?? | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 6:08:57 PM | Date older man or mature minded men.. .
Frankie, older men does not necessarily mean mature minded men. There are men out there who are in their 50s, but who are unfortunately still in their infancy. However, you are right; maturity comes naturally as people grow older and wiser. And as for going after the attractive ones that is only natural. It is for this reason that the mature minded guys need to make a stronger case for themselves. They too have an incredible power. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/18/2005 6:31:27 PM | Very interesting response to the question....
I agree with a lot of what you are saying. All depends what you are looking for in a relationship.
Are you happy with who you are, is a BIG question and just looking for that little extra in your life.
Totally independant people with substance and sanity usually have very very few needs, and really don't want to share when "sharing" really means "giving." Often, they've been taken advantage of, and really don't want to compromise-- and don't really have to. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/19/2005 3:45:30 AM | Well sweetie, you enjoy.
Guys, take note.
You misunderstood. That is what you assume the support is being used for. The cost of raising children is far more than most men realize. Your children are being taken care of, you can tell. Thats worth more than any amount of money on a support cheque. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/19/2005 10:26:01 AM | No, I didn't misunderstand darling.
It's obvious to all that the exact day a man's salary doubles --the cost of raising his kids doubles too.
Women have a legal advantage, and therefore incentive to get married, and incentive to get divorced.
Men have no legal advantage, and no incentive for either.
So now you can stop whining about men who don't want to commit--you have your answer. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/19/2005 11:37:59 AM | | It's not all about the money, it's raising your kids the best way u can............I've been on my own with my kids for 10yrs and my ex hasnt pd a dime so what i have it's from me working my ass off and not depending on a man salary. I'm very independent, and if some men out there take and chance and get to know who the person is maybe u'll find it's not what u expected........... | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/19/2005 1:35:39 PM | What do you think:
I WAS NOT WHINING, I WAS ASKING A QUESTION. looking for someone to shed some light on the matter.
you sound very bitter and have obviously been through the whole divorce thing. MOST WOMEN DO NOT GET MARRIED ONLY TO GET MONEY OUT OF A DIVORCE! the tables are turning and the courts are starting to be in favor of men anyhow. i know quite a few women who have lost everything because their husband got the better end of the deal or bla bla bla
i think you are being completely irrational on the whole matter. i asked why no men wanted a long term relationship (doesnt even have to be marriage) and you have ranted and raved numerous times about divorce and stupid child support (any man who doesnt want to support their own children should be shot in my books anyway). my question had nothing to do with that. just because i say long term relationship, DO NOT ASSUME I MEAN MARRIAGE. | |
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