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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/21/2005 1:59:46 PM | What is a proper relationship? I agree with you regarding those who prefer to just have the odd fling will one day regret it they will be left all alone with no one to love them . But it puzzles me to understand what a proper relationship is......we can all keep trying out a relationship only to be disappointed. Finding the right man/woman is the basis for a relationship for life...and why are we then on here?
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/21/2005 2:41:56 PM |
This is why men arent getting married anymore
this is why the average age for marrage among men rose from 25 to 28 this year.
Men are TIRED of all these laws that benefit women just because they have a vagina. They are getting smarter and thinking less and less with the little head.
A shame isnt it ladies, the thing you've been asking for for the longest time is your eventual undoing.
Quite frankly, there is NOTHING in it for a guy to get married to a broad. Anything you can get in marrage, you can also get in a simple girlfriend situation.. hell they dont even have to LIVE with you for gods sake.
Someone said this is the age of equality? FINE lets make it the age of equality. STRIKE ALL LAWS INVOLVING WOMENS BENEFITS AFTER DIVORCE. you get devorced? you get NOTHING!
You cheat on your man? YOU;re responsible and YOU PAY COURT COSTS! you pop out a kid... refuse to have an abortion/put it up for adoption... even after the guy begged and pleaded with you not to? YOU PAY HIS CHILD SUPPORT, NOT MEN.
oh.. dont like that? well we dont like DOING IT! and go ahead... call me bitter and jaded and whatever else you can throw at me.. it doesnt bother me one bit. women are.. for the most part.. GOLDDIGGERS wanting to take every cent from the guy that they can before moving on to the next sap.
ya know what.. i DEFY you to give me 1 O_N_E one benefit to getting married that men cannot do without getting married.
YOU CANT!
Well said! Dude nailed it, and thanks in part to the internet, men are waking up. The chickens have come home to roost. You want meaningless sex? Ya got it. You want disposable relationships? ya got it too. ****-n-chuck is the name of the game babe.
http://dontmarry.com
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/21/2005 4:15:33 PM | | Number 1 its not all guys its just certain ones... I know a few women that do the same thing just in it for a once in a while fu#$... These are people that have a big problem with security issues... They only do it when they want the attention... Them are also the same people that seem to be with people that treat them like crap and the're probally going to jail for this or that... People say they want to meet and be with someone that treats them good.. I guess both men and women have to broaden their scope on what kind of people they are attracted to... I myself am still looking for that woman that wants a normal relationship... I seem to run into the same types you have... | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/22/2005 5:19:38 PM | Women are venomous about two things: Their weight, and Your cheating. Starving children don't even get them worked up a little bit by comparison.
The insecurities are so deep. So deep brother.
Eating and cheating are both vices. Both involve a lack of self control. Both are disrespectful to the partner, both create lots of issues. Doesn't matter what gender.
WELL, WRONG AGAIN. I AM A SLENDER WOMAN, NEVER STEP ON A SCALE AND AND AM HAPPY WITH WHO I AM. NO MAN I HAVE BEEN WITH HAS EVER CHEATED ON ME, AND IF HE HAS AND I DIDN'T KNOW, WELL HOW CLEVER IS THAT..AND AT LEAST HE FOUND OUT THAT IT WASN'T SO GREAT AFTER ALL. I DON'T WORRY ABOUT MY MAN CHEATING..IF HE DOES, NO AMOUNT OF WORRYING ON MY PART WILL STOP IT. I PLEASE HIM AS I CHOOSE AND IF THATS NOT GOOD ENOUGH..WELL, SO BE IT.
SOOOOO WHATDO YOU THINK...YOUR THEORY, LIKE MOST OTHERS, IS INCORRECT. WOMEN ARE NOT AS PREDICTABLE AND COMPLACENT AS YOU BELEIVE THEM TO BE. EVERY ONE OF US IS DIFFERENT. VOILA! | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/22/2005 7:24:10 PM | well said!
Can i ask one thing?? How did the weight subject come into this???? Whoever started talking about overweight people, is a f-ing ***hole. Heavy people are people too, and some people (like myself) are trying to lose weight, but it does not happen overnight! It takes a long time to lose the pounds it took you five minutes to put on!
I think people are judged far too harshly on their weight and their looks. We are people too and there are some of us who ARE doing something about it! But obviously, you are not worthy of anyone's love UNTIL you have lost all the weight.....
I have a feeling it is that arrogant WHATDOYOUTHINK flapping his gums again..........if he is so happy without a woman, what the hell is he doing on a dating site then? I'm sure since he is better than everyone else on the planet that he should have NO trouble finding a woman........i have worse words for him but i will keep my mouth shut as I am better than him! | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/22/2005 8:08:23 PM | I believe the problem is that everyone starts out looking for perfection. They start to define what this might be and the next thing you know their expectations are unattainable.
I think the fact is....people do want relationships. It is just everyone has a different opinion of what a relationship is. Just read this post and you can see that cariss. I have seen marriage, freedom, weight and all kinds of issues mentioned here but truth be told perfection only exists in Hollywood.
Get the picture.....start to accept that things aren't perfect and then they become ideal.
Backbird below sees it. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/22/2005 8:09:23 PM | | Well I have to say I want a serious relationship, marriage, kids at some point, all of that. But few of the women I've dated have felt the same. Most of them didn't want relationships, and if they did, they were looking for someone else. One girl i dated last year for awhile basically told me she wanted me to be her man for the long term, but I had to change EVERYTHING about myself from my clothing style to the beer I drink. Basically she wanted someone who was the opposite of me, but since I was there and interested in her, she decided to "settle" without settling. Mind you she was stone drunk when she said all this. But I rarely saw her when she wasn't drunk, and when I did she was kinda cold. And really I haven't been able to get even a first date in a very long time. I think a lot of the women around here just want more from their men, and won't take anything less than perfection... | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/23/2005 3:04:12 AM | Cariss, L'l sweetie, you gotta keep up. I'll recap for the less indulgent readers:
Silver, AKA Titanium (or Titan for short) Was complaining about men in the 1700's having courtesans, which led to the whole cheating thing, which led to this statement:
How can a woman expect respect if she's carrying weight she wants to lose and can't do it? It's a flaw definitely on par with cheating. It's the same issues involved-- Moral courage, self-respect, and respect for your partner.
Set a goal, accomplish it = get respect.
Make a promise, keep it = get respect.
Set a goal, don't accomplish it, complain a lot = no respect.
Make a promise, don't keep it = no respect.
Then you said:
How did the weight subject come into this???? Whoever started talking about overweight people, is a f-ing ***hole. Heavy people are people too, and some people (like myself) are trying to lose weight, but it does not happen overnight! It takes a long time to lose the pounds it took you five minutes to put on!
And, I quite agree. It takes willpower and effort, JUST like a relationship.
Then you blurted:
I have a feeling it is that arrogant WHATDOYOUTHINK flapping his gums again..........if he is so happy without a woman, what the hell is he doing on a dating site then?
So, my answer is in my profile.
But then you had the nerve to continue with:
I'm sure since he is better than everyone else on the planet that he should have NO trouble finding a woman........
…and quite right you are,
But you didn't stop there, did you:
i have worse words for him but i will keep my mouth shut as I am better than him!
There! All tidy, and everyone's up to date. I'll be over at "victims of verbal abuse" if anyone wants me. -- You stay here in "I'm puzzled why doesn't anyone want me-ville." | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/23/2005 6:29:07 AM | Cariss, I think this is a really good thread, I completely agree with you. It seems like everyone just want's a f@ck buddy now-a-days without the ties. I couldn't read every reply to this thread (too long, im too impatient  ) but I think it's a big problem in our society today.
I think it's more just greediness. To commit to one person, is seen as losing your options. No one likes to get hurt, and if in the long run the relationship doesnt work out, ppl feel like they gave up other (possibly better) chances.
Everyone lives by this "grass is greener on the other side" mentality, but is yellow grass really all that bad?
LOL ok, that's my peice.  | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/23/2005 11:45:18 AM | ^^^^^^haha Yep. Keep your yellow grass.
We have no-fault divorce, abortion, birth-control, and women making good money at work all day long.
The liberation of men from the slavery of supporting women is at hand.
Men, let us enjoy our freedom to the utmost! | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/23/2005 7:09:13 PM | Let's see, how else has "Feminism" helped free men:
Um, almost all chicks put out now by the second or at least the third date-- there's so much competition they don't dare wait a whole week.
Um, they pay half of everything-- much cheaper dates now.
Um, Microwavable meals!!
Let's see-- No more of that stupid Chivalry stuff like having to protect them from scary things. Just walk away and pick out a new babe!
Um, Lot's of therapists --so no more having to listen to their problems!
Um, Quarterly shots of Depo-- so no messy!
Um, DNA testing, let's find out who's baby it REALLY is.
Um, especially the ones collecting child support from some other slob have lots of money to buy us nice things!
Plus, endless variety!!!
Thanks Feminism!!! You've been GREAT for men! | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/25/2005 7:10:21 AM | Without reading every post, I gotta say that I want a relationship.
But, I won't just get in one for fear of being alone. I'm looking for the right girl to get involved with (by my standards) and when we meet, we'll both just know that we were mean't for each other.
My opinion is that when you meet that ONE special person, everything just falls into place.
Fate you could call it....If you believe in fate. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/25/2005 7:46:05 PM | the same thing that scares women... men!!... bad relationships... gutkicked.. left for dead!.. the reluctance to pick your self up and dust yourself off.. and stay in the fight... we get hurt.. we dont always mend...OR learn..or let go... you dont sound as tho you have been in a hurtful relationship.. or at least hurt your partner.. lots of people are affraid to love again.. because of what has happened to them before .. so... a shallow relationship..no harm,, no foul.. sounds pretty MT to me.. but hey.. im not everyone else... the fear is gone.. i just take a longgggggggggggggggggg look at whats being presented to me... and take my time...
the main rule for war.... "never meet the enemy on its own terms...".. i used to say ... ' ill never let anyone get close enough to me that when they are gone itll hurt "i lived a pretty quiet life after that.. then i got an attitude adjustment.. met a wonderful woman.. who had ovariar cancer and she died.. we were to be married.. so ..i got up .. dusted myself off and carrried on.. just to meet another "wonderful woman".. who left me for "something easier"... it was a long distance relationshp.. dont blame that too much...being a chicken shit and having cold feet wasnt worth the stretch..long story short... i hope my "opinion".. was worth the read... be safe.. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/26/2005 8:28:55 AM | there are alot of men that do but usualy there the guys weman arent attracted to.boring .older. or maybe they are the guys that dont wear there pants around there azz and have a bald head . its usualy the guys with morals who want a relationship. girls complain about things they bring on themselves. if you play in a garbage dumpster ur going to get dirty upgrade ur standards and im sure you will findf what you want.good luck. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/26/2005 8:55:35 AM | | The reason I beleive this may happen to some women is because these women are attracted to men who other women are attracted to and these men already made up there mind that they want other women. IN other words some women like guys who don't want relationships because it ads a sense of danger and unpredictability to the mix, will he still love me? will he still care...its all about drama, women love drama. There are lots of guys who want relationships and I'm one of them, so this whole thing about guys not wanting a relationship or even to get married is a bunch of bullshit. Some women just have screwd up values. Like if I posted that I wanted a wife most the women will reply to the guy who's just looking to fool around...So its what a woman values that leads her to that guy who does not want relationships....Think about it, there are lots of fishes in the sea, why pick the one thats not going to want to be with you? but thats what some women do and then they complain about it like they did not have any choice...lol | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/26/2005 8:57:34 AM | 1) We always want what we can't have. For some reason it's human nature to hold back our feelings when we know that they may be mutual. When that happens there's no challenge - it's too easy.
2) Some people "want" to be in a relationship, but aren't emotionally ready or mature enough to be in a relationship.
3) I agree with what many other posters have said - if your "ideal" boyfiend/girlfriend is based on what TV or some magazine tells you about men, women and relationships, you're probably in for a let-down. There's nothing wrong with having wants and needs - just be honest and realistic. What are the most important "wants" and "needs" for you? | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/30/2005 2:14:25 AM | | A lot of people do. But before we "commit" we want to actually fall in love -- yeah, just like in the movies -- you know, head over heels and all that stuff. Does it happen anymore where it's a mutual thing or is it always onesided, one in love, the other looking for someone more exciting? | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/30/2005 4:16:40 AM |
I believe the problem is that everyone starts out looking for perfection. They start to define what this might be and the next thing you know their expectations are unattainable.
I think the fact is....people do want relationships. It is just everyone has a different opinion of what a relationship is. Just read this post and you can see that cariss. I have seen marriage, freedom, weight and all kinds of issues mentioned here but truth be told perfection only exists in Hollywood.
Get the picture.....start to accept that things aren't perfect and then they become ideal.
Backbird below sees it.
Very awesome post.. I believe it says it all in a nutshell | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/30/2005 4:43:01 AM | I would love to be in a relationship, one man, one woman, how sweet. But in reality I think I would be better off finding someone I hate and giving them half my stuff. Men and women are scared to fall in love and get their heart ripped out. I could be one of them.??? Is it more fun or safer to hide behind the computer and fill in the night chatting on line? Nobody gets hurt right. I have had my heart ripped out. Yes it kills, a good night on the town with some friends and a lot of crying, big deal. Get over it, and move on. Life is short and who wants to spend it saying I wish I would have........
Life is about chances, I have met some really nice people on POF, and I hope to meet more, maybe someone special maybe not. You can't win if you don't play the game. I think the whole world should just lighten up a bit.
A relationship is like a friend, it takes time to mature and grow. You can't hit it over the head and make it work right off the bat.'
I think the word relationship should be changed to I want regular sex. | |
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| Why doesn't anybody EVER want an actual relationship anymore???
Posted: 11/30/2005 6:32:15 AM | I was just informed I DON'T want a relationship, cause I want to take my time with a female, and this was coming from a female.
SO I guess it's best to meet a female, sleep with a female and date a female within a 2-3 day period, I am so outta the loop on this now | |
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