| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/23/2004 7:57:42 AM | and as for my answer to this. There will never be a McDonnalds, a Starbucks, or a American theme park in Iraq. There will never be an Iraq in the way that we have, over the last century, tried to contruct one. It was never realistic or appropriate or sane, for the sake of western interests', to try to glue together a group of historically waring tribes. However much western elite groups try to bully people into compliance, it just isn't going to happen!
By trying to create a distinct, harmonious and compliant culture from so many tribal and religious differences we basically put lots of antagonistic chemicals in a fire. It will explode in your face time and time again, hurting all of the people within and sending burning bits of coal and shapnel all over the place, injuring anyone within range. The hotter the fire gets the further the bits of burning material fly.
Wishing all you lovely enlightened, patient, warm people I have seen on here a very peaceful and happy christmas and a wonder-filled new year. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/23/2004 10:09:35 AM | Brilliant argument DMT. " because its difficult, give up" . You and your mummy have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year too. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/23/2004 3:42:17 PM | | Nope, I believe that if ideas are completely stupid we should rethink than and do something else, just as if I notice that people are not all that enlightened I try to get them to look at things from a different direction. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/23/2004 3:58:54 PM | In my opinion I am enlightened, I'm just not so openminded that I let my brains fall out. If you tolerate everything then you stand for nothing. Merry Christmas. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/24/2004 6:51:58 PM | bowvalley you kinda look like Fred Ward the actor he is cool
My take on this is tribes having wars for centuries need to f*cking get over it we need to move into a new period of peace on our planet yes it is a pipe dream but throwing our hands in the air is wrong too
I am not for the war but in 20 year we may just look back and say that tough time(present) was the beginning of change in an area of great turmoil
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/24/2004 7:14:11 PM | Excellent analysis Guitarman. That is exactly the point I am making.The Middle East is so ****ed up that there is no way they will sort out their problems themselves and become peaceful and democratic stable countries by themselves.We have to do it for them at gunpoint or they are only going to get worse until their are smuggled nukes going off in downtown New York.Pakistan's Islamic nuke was paid for with Saudi Oil money because Pakistan is bankrupt.The way you get rid of terrorism is by getting rid of the source,Despotic Mid East regimes. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/25/2004 12:50:24 PM | The only people stealing oil from the Iraqi people were Saddam Hussein and the U.N.s corrupt oil for food program.Now all oil revenue goes to the Iraqi people and none of it to Islamonazi terrorists.The only person on the planet who could have made this happen is George Bush. God bless him and Operation Iraqi Freedom.  | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/25/2004 5:30:19 PM | show me any evidence that ANY oil revenue is going to the Iraqi people Mike.
Why do you think it is that Bush has a particular gift for fairly sharing out a countries resources and power. He certainly has not done this in the US and it doesn't seem like he has any intention of doing this in Iraq - or anywhere else. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/25/2004 9:55:45 PM | Where do you think all the money paying for the reconstrution of Iraq's electricity grid,water supplies,sanitation system,hospitals,schools,police force,army,civil government,civil service,health care system,etc.,etc.,etc., is coming from? Casperclaf, whose been there, says that for every one Iraqi who doesn't want the U.S. there,ten do.I'd take his word over the word of leftist, surrender-monkey news hacks any day of the week.  | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/26/2004 5:20:35 AM | but it is well know that the US - both the government and corporations make money out of the destruction and reconstruction of Iraq, just as they did in the last Iraqi war. It's great business - make up a pack of lies, go in a destroy peoples lives, rebuild som public ameinities that are not actually public any more as they are controlled by the invaders, and then get the rest of the world (surrender monkeys - I still love that phrase) to pay for it.
Incidently most people didn't argue for an invasion of Iraq, therefore 'surrender' is not an appropriate word. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/27/2004 3:05:51 PM | | The only barbarism I'm aware of in recent history is Islamonazi's sawing the heads off innocent aid workers and blowing children to pieces, do you have a problem with me having a problem with that or what? | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/27/2004 3:11:14 PM | And thanks for letting me know somebody is reading my posts.If you hadn't I was going to stop posting comments today because I didn't think anybody was reading them. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/27/2004 3:11:54 PM | I have a problem with you thinking that the only solution is to blow sh*t (and people) up! When that is the action taken, it really doesn't matter what your side is, innocent people lose their lives and violence only begats more violence. I think that your last post was not the truth :) | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/27/2004 3:36:40 PM | | Except in Vietnam in '68( nuke Hanoi and Haiphong) that was never my solution for anything and if you read my my post some other place about the millions of innocent southeast asians slaughtered as a result of the victorious communist invasion( not to mention American soldiers) I think you might concede that I have a good point.I said Else wher that the only way the U.S. can pull out of Iraq now, Without triggering a massive civil war,$100 barrel oil, and a collapse of the U.S., then world, economies, would be IF you nuked the entire middle east, obviously a morally indefensible position unless they were on the verge of nuking everyone over here. I said elsewhere that the vast majority of people in the middle east, like the vast majority of people enerywhere, just want a job to go to so they can take care of their families and live in peace.I'm saying the way to get there is to keep drilling the extremists in the face with 5.56mm until they are either all dead,or have found some other way to occupy their spare time. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/27/2004 3:43:23 PM | | Mike - what is your definition of an 'extremist'? I have a horrible feeling that you would regard the average unhappy armed local person fighting to protect their family, homes, sacreds sites and country from the invading capitalists as an extremist. I personally regard Bush as an extremist - does that mean that you think someone should put a bellet in his head? | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/27/2004 4:04:36 PM | | An aqquaitance of mine, Hassan, who is from Iran and is completely on the other side of the argument from me, even calls these people crazies( extremists) he says, " Iran and Syria have millions ( of dollars) and will keep sending the crazies into Iraq until the Americans leave," If the other side even calls these extremists " crazies" then I can't think why you would be trying to say they aren't.The local Sunni's who are violent aren't defending their homes, they are trying to subvert the democratic process because they are a minority, and are pissed that that their bloodthirsty and brutal subjugation of all the rest of Iraq is over.The violence in Iraq is almost exclusively in these sunni areas.If they want violence, give 'em violence.Eventually they'll come around and be a part of the new and democratic Iraq.The muslim middle east's first democracy. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/27/2004 4:13:24 PM | TO IGOTOOSU And I also think nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a better idea to end that war than having 500,000 allied soldiers die invading the Japaese home------------ islands. | |
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