| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/27/2004 4:29:06 PM | Oh yea! well, what about the Japanese casualties? I think your are forgetting something there.
jee, what if people were emotionally mature enough to find a different solution besides war and killing? maybe then nobody would have died. i think that would have been a better option | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/27/2004 7:45:02 PM | | I'm all for worldwide peace,love and happiness too,but when faced with an enemy bent on your destruction your options are limited. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/28/2004 6:31:09 AM | | But surely from other peoples perspectives, the capitalist empire is bent on their destruction and control. All of the things that are projected onto islam are things that are completely true of the US system and the capitalist neo-colonialist attack on the cultures of the world. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/28/2004 11:33:04 PM | @dmt and itsoo boo boo (whatever)
Guys I was on your side about the whole thing ............you know
The US are capatilist pigs trying to take over the world blah blah blah............
But,.............. guys bowvalleymike is right.................
these people are sawing off heads
they are f*cking sick and absolute evil
and must be stopped at any cost........any
Now I know you are both going to come back at me with your intelligent
"university speak"
but instead of doing that ..............
surprise the sh*t out of everyone and actually do something ..............
anything...........that forwards the cause of good
"o articulate arm chair warrior philosophers"
f*cking do something
anything
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/29/2004 12:01:55 AM | | Thanks Guitarman.And I was shocked when I read what you wrote about your buddy.My condolences.I'll make sure vancouverite reads that next time we're hanging out. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/29/2004 12:19:43 AM | Yes
I am just getting sick of the idealistic b*tches in the world
that sit in there chairs and spew "wisdom"
I can say it cause I was one of them once..........
I think a shot of reality is good for them
it may save a life
or it may make someone actually take stock of how they are spending their time.....
you see
for all of us on this forum intellectualizing the war ...............
all of our time debating will mean nothing in 2 weeks......nothing
If you are truly passionate about it do anything that will actually matter
Send an Iraqi child $1
will make more difference than all of you arguing like a bunch of B*tches
ya go ahead call me names ................
but at the end of the day ...............
you know i am right
so use your energy wisely friends
@dmt &itsoogoo goo
did you read my last post ? | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/29/2004 6:15:34 AM | Right on guitarman!
I dated a British woman for about a year and man, talk about hypocrisy! If it hadn't been for America saving their asses, they'd be speaking German right now. I sincerely hope that the Iraqi people will be able to not live in fear like sheep--got a nephew fighting there now,,He believes in and is comitted to the mission at hand--it's his 3rd tour--by choice, this last tour of duty. It's sickening how the wishy-washy, no resolve, europeans can diss on America when they know that America saved their asses in the past and would gladly do it in the future. Thats why this is the best d*mn country on the planet, because we have the balls to take a stand. | |
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Posted: 12/29/2004 6:22:08 AM | Guitarman, you are dangerously wrong.. I'm suprised at how simplitically you are looking at this now. We have all come to expect that from Mikey but not from you. If you are going to say anything you need to be conversant with the history.
I live in the real world, I am lucky enough to have good access to information about things that are happening all around the world. A few people have been decapitated in Iraq yes, as a result of the US breaking international law and invading. The kidnapers are not characteristic of Iraqis, they are opportunists who are using the destabilisation of the country by US and British invaders as a way of gaining money. Westerners are despised - not suprisingly as we have spent the best part of a century trying different ways of manipulating them and gaining control of their god given resources.
The harm that has been done to a few white civilians in Iraq is nothing compared to the terrible harm that has been done to the people of Afghanistan and Iraq by western soldiers. And it is nothing compared to the devastation that is caused all round the world by the exploitation by US corporations. Neocolonialism and cybercolonialism are the biggest threat to all cultures of the world. People are being bullied and tricked into an evil exploitative system that causes hundreds of millions to live in extreme povery, denied medical care and forced to work in sweatshops for US corporations rather than have an education. I war in Iraq - though expensive distract attention from the evil at the heart at the US system and from the fact that few people in the US have much in the way of real freeom - whether educational, mental or otherwise.
The US created the problems in Iraq - not just by this invasion but by previous inadequate, lazy and weak efforts at dimplomacy for the sake of securing oil supply and having people to sell their weapons to. By choosing to destroy the lives of millions of innocent people the US is making uncountable enemies in the future. Even when people seem vulnerable and beaten they will always remember - just as the world remembers the atrocities committed by the US on the people if Vietman and on its own citizens.
There is so much opposition to US policy around the world that is is very unlikely that it will ever gain support again for its empire builing wars. And starved of support and with shortfalls in the resources on which it depends the system will become untenable. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/29/2004 4:37:45 PM | I didn't support it, but I believe that corrupt evil members of corporate america and their CIA poodles supported it. I've explained this in other threads and I'm not about to go through the agonising tedium of explaining it to you now mike. If you are really interested in what I have to say it then I suggest you read the threads about Iraq or the one time I repeated yesterday for the sake of Watchman, who hadn't understood what had been said previously.
You know mate, I don't feel at all pathetic, I feel like a well-informed, healthy, genuine and considerate person with a great appreciation in other cultures. The people I think are pathetic are armchair jingoists who are poorly informed and sit in their homes drinking beer, filling their bodies with crap and their minds with worse crap arguing that hundreds of thousants more lives should be sacrificed to causes that they simply do not understand. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/29/2004 4:46:50 PM | Well I think there might have been a Mc Donalds in Iraq before the american attack...
But The Cruse Missles took that out in the first wave...
So it might be a while untill Mc Donalda can get their franchises back from Kellog Brown and Root... | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/29/2004 5:02:32 PM | DMT sorry to disabuse you of your preconcieved put downs but I don't drink beer or any sort of alcohol and so far today have only eaten fruits and vegetables. The whole mideast situation is way more simple than you America-haters make it out to be.For starters I would prefer to see American corporate conglomerates ( and for that matter British, despite you) getting rich in the middle east rather than the French,Germans Russians or Chinese because every one of these ***holes were quite happily supplying nutbar mideast totalitarian regimes with nuclear technology.Secondly the only longterm solution to the middle easts problems is to replace the despotic tyrannical regimes there with democracies as George Bush, Tony Blair, et al are quite handily doing.These sh*thole mideast regimes stay in power by inflaming their Islamic populations racist,murderous,genocidal hatred of Israel and the United States,and usind oil revenues to finance and support anti western Islamic terrorism.By removing these despotic regimes which finance them, you have severely destroyed the Islamonazi's war making capability,and by introducing democracy to the Islamic middle east you have greatly enhanced the long term peace and stability of the world. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/29/2004 5:08:27 PM | I know Saddam is a murderous psychopath, not fit to run bar let alone a diverse country...
but it is also true that bombing all these (mainly american I must say) fast food chains that sell highly addictive, high in fat, high in salt, high in sugar, high in toxins crap to children - preparing them for a life of addiction, obesity and stupidity, many more lives would be save and enriched than might be by trying to take control of Middle eastern countries.
There is something to be said about putting one's own house in order before trying to steal a neighbours home. If the US didn't have such high murder rates, high levels of obesity, heart disease, and almost non-existent public health services then I'm not sure so many advanced cultures would be so scathing about America's empire building. If they had some to offer apart from intimadation, threats, robbery and murder then things would seem more palatable. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/29/2004 5:47:13 PM | | So you'd prefer to see the French,Germans,Russians and Chinese supplying these genocidal maniacs with nuclear technology in exchange for oil.I'd sooner see the camel jockeys with Ronald Mcdonald Happy meals than thermonuclear devices. | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/29/2004 8:21:58 PM | @dmt
I have alot of respect for you my friend.........
you are very intelligent
but,are you using these abilities to their greatest effect to create good in our world?
I encourage you to read my forum in Current events
"the debate on iraq-read this"
There is a message there............ | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/29/2004 8:55:36 PM | Yeah,dmt...shouldn't you be finding a cure for cancer or something? I,myself, am getting off this msg board immediately, and getting started on my global warming thesis to submit to my local newspaper,...and after that I'm borrowing my biologist friend's microscope to begin a project on finding a cure for the common cold. I plan on possibly robbing a bank this week sometime also, so that I can send 1000 10 pound bags of rice to help in the tsunami relief effort ( I can't come up w/ the money on my own, as my family has to scrape by on ramen noodles and bologna sandwiches half the week)-so robbing a bank is my only option.
^^This was all a joke, of course...gimme a break,guitarman,...seriously.Are you kookin' out or something? This Deepok Chopra act seems out of character for you.Some ppl enjoy debate/discussion-what's the problem? You can't expect ppl to do philanthropic/charitable work at all times.Anyway, I, personally am VERY glad that dmt shares his wisdom on the forum boards. I actually learn some things from him-so is teaching ppl about social issues going on in the world not humanitarian? Not a good thing? You've completely lost me w/ these recent posts. And BTW...I notice that you're* still posting, also.WTF? | |
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| Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq?
Posted: 12/29/2004 10:41:11 PM | @rhiannaon
Wow way to lay the boots to me
I guess I just felt a moment of goodness
A moment of claity when one realizes how you and I waste our time.........
my message is just that a message
alone in your brain you know I have a point
I hope that you got alot of pleasure out of blasting me like that
that was 5 mins of your life you will never get back
I hope it was a good use of your time | |
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