| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 12/28/2005 9:28:10 AM | I have had issues from both Yahoo and match.com. Not about sending winks but for charging again me even though I had auto renew off. I turned them off shortly after subscribing to their service. I had to fight with yahoo and call them by phone to get them to refund me what they charged. They would only do a partial refund at first but later did a full refund. There were two charges that yahoo. One from many months ago which they won't refund. I am having to file a fraudulent charge with my bank because of it. Match.com did the exact same thing even though I immediately deactivated the auto renew and they cause a check of mine to bounce. Both companies had exceptionally poor responses to these situations and eventually they ignore you though email responses. I will never again use a pay service if the top two companies in the field are ripping people off. Anyone else have this experience? before you answer I suggest checking your credit card bill to see if they charged you without your knowledge.
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 12/29/2005 9:40:33 PM | I told my friends about this POF, when I said it is 100% free, and they all said "I wonder how they are going to survive, with no money how could they operated, hope they got enough advertisers"
There, I don't agree we should not pay even a dime for our fun and services. Actually I think POF should charge a minimum fee, I say maybe under $5 a month. I do feel guilty as if I am taking advantages of the supporting advertisers in this com. When I enjoy the forums day and night, I do want to pay into it. If POF should charged hummmm.....let say an annual fee of $50, I think it should be pretty fair and we should not object to it. I don't like when members say "I don't pay to get date", well who set this dating system for you and who pays the employees. (but POF says they have no or not much employees  )
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 1/4/2006 12:41:01 PM |
I think there are some ringers in here that they use to contact u without even looking at your ad.
Not necessarily. On another site ("realsexdates"), what us users noted was the same message being sent to several of us. That's more likely to be an automated on-site spambot than a person behind it.
On match, I once encountered what I fully believe was a fake profile for a Nigerian scammer. The girl pictured was supposedly in the country for the peace corps but the hotel manager stole her passport when she couldn't pay the bill up to date. Of course, she wanted money to get out of the country.... (Need I say more?) This profile said she went to college in London (and listed a real college there), so I challenged her to name the closest underground station to her school - and she couldn't. Funny thing is that the transportation information was on the college's web site - so there was a fair chance that the scammer could have looked it up - but didn't.
So watch out: Not everyone on there is looking for a date! | |
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| Internet matchmakers are the same as those of 20 years ago
Posted: 1/12/2006 10:30:15 AM | Thanks to all of you for posting your personal experiences concerning internet matchmaker sites. I was very skeptical of the internet. Your postings confirm my suspicions. The best defense is to publicize the peril, to warn others about the swindlers.
Unfortunately, the behaviour of these sites is remarkably similar to the matchmakers of twenty years ago, before the internet. The brick and mortar matchmakers of that time were infamous for introducting their customers to "matches" who were completely inappropriate, demanding more fees for better matches, cancelling paid memberships without refunds for alleged infractions of bylaws, and so on.
The technology has changed, but not the unethical nature of most of the business owners.
Nevertheless, the internet corporations should be prosecuted. Unfortunately, even if the managers are sent to jail, others will jump in to try to make some unethical profits, in the hope that they won't get caught.
The best defense is to publicize to the public, which is what you are doing here.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. | |
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 1/12/2006 10:53:07 AM | "On match, I once encountered what I fully believe was a fake profile for a Nigerian scammer. The girl pictured was supposedly in the country for the peace corps but the hotel manager stole her passport when she couldn't pay the bill up to date. Of course, she wanted money to get out of the country.... (Need I say more?) This profile said she went to college in London (and listed a real college there), so I challenged her to name the closest underground station to her school - and she couldn't. Funny thing is that the transportation information was on the college's web site - so there was a fair chance that the scammer could have looked it up - but didn't."
I recently had a very similar encounter here on POF from a girl contacting me first on the IM and ashing me to switch over to Yahoo ...that is where the money pitch was made.. Yeah Nigerian girl supposedly living here in the States, temporarily back in Africa...needing to come home...blah,blah..
I reported it to POF Admin.. | |
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 1/15/2006 4:35:13 PM | I have no doubt that there are pay sites that have sent bogus winks and messages in order to lure people into paying for their subscription. It's an interesting plot, and will be difficult to prove in court. But I find a couple things very interesting. First that we assume that the fact that we receive no mails until just before the end of subscription indicates that the site is a scam. Secondly that because a potential date stops messaging after a couple communications it's because they were not sincere in the first place and not because they lost interest. Thirdly I think it's interesting that We feel that we should receive the benefits of the content on the site for free, and we are only willing to pay for the site when we've received direct contact.
Personally I've never felt scammed by any of the pay sites. Also I've had some very positive experiences on pay sites. Some of the best dates I've ever had were a result of pay sites. The fact of the matter is that dating and meeting people is tough. There are a lot of layers and obstacles that must be overcome. Trust is very difficult to come by and the cynicism that is so very obvious especially in this thread makes it even more difficult. So I would like to make some suggestions.
1. If you aren't willing to spend money in order to pursue a match, then take your profile off of those sites that require payment and remove temptation. Delete spam from dating sites unread and block the senders. If though you are willing to invest in your personal life, consider it a monthly expense and keep your accounts current. This way you can pick and choose which profiles you respond to.
2. If you are willing to invest the money, then make it money well spent. Show yourself to be friendly and interested. Take some initiative and send some well thought out emails and accept the fact that you will be rejected. Remember marketers spend millions of dollars to send out millions of ad campaigns expecting only 1 percent to respond favorably. That's 99 percent rejection 1 percent success. The same applies to meeting people. If you went the whole month with out a single message, then you're lucky to get the one mail at the end of the subscription.
3. Finally nothing is for free. You may not be paying for your activity on POF, but someone is. Someone is paying for the hosting, someone has paid for the design either by buying template software, or web design software, Some one has invested their time. I'm guessing they provide this service in hopes that if you do choose to go to a pay site, you'll use one of the links at the top of the page. But that's just a guess. | |
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 1/17/2006 1:57:37 AM | I just spotted a perfect example of a bogus profile:
http://personals.yahoo.com/us/personals-1089369275-812403
Several months ago I got an icebreaker from a profile word-for-word identical to this one, but with a picture of a gorgeous thin blonde who was supposedly from my town. But to fool them - I had a friend of a friend who was a subscriber forward my email address to this person - and of course I never heard back.
The latest BS thing match.com has done - they no longer allow non-subscribers to read the emails sent to them by subscribers. Of course we have no way to let the subscribers know we didn't get their message, so they don't realize that they indeed are paying for much less service than they had been getting, since they are no longer able to contact a large percentage of the profiles. | |
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 1/22/2006 4:09:27 PM | Hi all,
I think roommates.com was running a similar scam. After I put my details in I found it was not free. Later I recieved several emails from young female students wanting rooms. To reply to them I would have to pay the fees. I thought it was odd that it was just young goodlooking female students that wanted to rent my room. | |
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 1/23/2006 3:43:50 PM | I'm with you there on the Amateurmatch.com issue brother. I tried to upgrade to be a 'Premium' member so I could reply to those 'bonafide' e-mails (yes, sucked in to a point). However, they wouldn't accept my credit card (because I'm a UK Citizen and currently in Canada and the UK billing address and website's IP address were too far apart - a blessing in disguise!). Changed my billing address to a Canadian one - so in theory I could now 'upgrade'. But then I noticed something fishy .... to initially try and get my card through security I changed my account info. from London, Canada to London, UK. I looked back at one of the e-mails I'd been sent and the damsel's address had mysteriously changed from a Canadian to a UK one! Checked through several others - and they all had too!! Caught out!!! ...  | |
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 1/23/2006 3:56:42 PM | I thought I would include information here about True.com
They have an interesting twist on the fraud these site use:
winks. They send winks out to members, but the person who is supposed to be doing the 'winking' isn't even aware it is going on! A fake email is sent. Try this: send an email back and ask very specific questions. You will not get a single response that comes even close to an answer! What more proof does anyone need to know that this site is 100% fraud?
I sent out several emails as a test. I asked every single person who supposedly 'winked' at me to send me back an email using the exact wording in a specific phrase. Not one response back.
All Fraud. | |
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| Class action against Match.com for fraud - MAY BE REVISED
Posted: 2/5/2006 6:04:12 PM | Yesterday, I was contacted by the lawyer from the firm in California (Orange County) who is heading the match.com class-action suit. He found my experiences interesting and let me know that one of the contacts I had might have been a match employee who had a quota of "100 contacts" per month. He also indicated that there may be a revised (or amended) filing in the class-action case that may include other match clients not previously included - so watch for press releases regarding this.
I had filled out the on-line questionaire on January 7th. | |
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 2/5/2006 9:06:34 PM | | I have to admit that I am under the impression that the same sort of thing has happend to me, but on one of the other major dating sites. Hence my decision to use POF. It's going to be interesting to watch and see how this unfolds over the next year or so... | |
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 2/6/2006 3:51:32 AM | Ticketoride,
It's ultimatley up each user to determine if he or she is going to get taken for a ride. I have somewhat of a keen sense for picking out manipulators and other such undesierables and can also tell you that some of them are very, very good. | |
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 2/8/2006 3:33:22 AM | POF will charge as soon as they build up their cliental
It's ultimatley up each user to determine if he or she is going to get taken for a ride.
At the top of this, as well as every other Thread on this Forum, the Admin states the following:
Remember that we are the largest 100% free online dating service, so you will never have to pay a dime to meet your soulmate. | |
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 2/8/2006 5:14:59 AM |
I think there are some ringers in here that they use to contact u without even looking at your ad.
You're wrong.
I'll have been on this site a year on the 20th. (my second account here) Never once has that happened.
This is the most effective site on earth for actually meeting real people.
Hands down.
I've made 100's of lifelong friends, met and dated several women,
currently believe that I have actually found the one that I want
to keep forever.
Ringers? Yeah, those are wedding bells. | |
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| Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud
Posted: 2/11/2006 4:24:51 AM | | Just wanted to vent against Match. I got a notification that I had an email on there so I went to look at it. Guess what? I have to subscribe to read it! After hearing all these horror stories there is no way I am going to. I can understand paying to send an email but to read one? Come on! Match, I hope you go bankrupt! | |
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