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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877..............
Posted: 9/24/2009 8:56:20 PM |
Jabarian It was you that said something a while back about the Balanced man , what was that saying?
Pretty much what I said above.
Really, any guy who thinks he's a nice guy should go read "No More Mr Nice Guy" (Glover) and they will realize they aren't really nice guys, but DOOR MATS. I mean, I could go on and on about why these threads keep popping up. Most of the time it's simply that these guys don't realize what they are.
When they read the book, they'll understand, fix their problem and start becoming WELL BALANCED men. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877..............
Posted: 9/25/2009 12:13:41 AM | Well my deal is that i am a very nice guy.
not so much buying things or dropping things to be with women but i don't hesitate with complements or planning nice things.
But I also like digging the sex situation i usually have no problem admitting i love sex but the only issue i have with that is how to let women know without going creepy or the cliched so wanna do it comment.
so far my problem as i see it is that i am still shy, my niceness is genuine i hold doors for everyone, if i see someone sad i go try to cheer them up unless they go b itchy then depending on how far off the handle they fly i could do anything from walk away wishing them a nice day to telling them to go f uck themselves everyone else has problems now suck it up or go find a razor jeez.
so in short i still have the doormat thing sorta going but it does not have welcome on it and sometimes i take a break to get washed i don't just sit and take it all the time.
at the same time my front door has a make a donation aka i expect something but if i don't get it right now i won't freak out about it but i may glare once in a while depending on how much crap i have to take.
all in the name of being honest. | |
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Joined: 5/30/2009
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877..............
Posted: 9/25/2009 4:05:21 AM | | It's true when women are younger they go after the bad boys. But after you have been jerked around enough times and hurts you grow up. You realize you do want a nice guy. Nice guys are better material for a long term relationship. As another poster said a balance is nice. We don't want a jerk but we dont' want a door mat. Just a geniune honest person that treats others well. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877..............
Posted: 9/25/2009 6:40:02 AM | | i don't think you should even contemplate dating a woman that likes bad boys, says plenty about there opinions on themselves and it isn't good. I never understand why men that want something serious even bother with such women. What you want is someone that has a decent opinion on themselves. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877..............
Posted: 9/25/2009 9:05:58 AM | | This is a very complicated issue with many layers but is is apparent that the women who prefer badboys are typically from lower income undereducated backgrounds,often with 2 or 3 kids with 2 or 3 different men at a young age but still are to stupid to learn there lesson yet will gladly tell you there stories of abuse after abuse after abuse from every man they have ever been with. I have yet to meet an educated proffesional independant woman of quality who would put up with the antics of one of these badboy types, so to sum it up we can say that women who go for this type of guy have other issues to deal with that make them unsuitable girlfriends anyways. I am considered by my peers to be polite,well spoken and courtious to women and and other men,not because I am physically weak or timid or a pushover but because it is who I am, and I find get nothing but respect from other men but there is a certain variety of women who do not respect the goodguy type of man for some reason. Nice guys are not all physically and mentally weak pushovers who have to be nice for fear of reprisal from others, sometimes we are just good guys,some of the biggest strongest and toughest guys I know are the nicest guys I know to women and to ther male peers as well | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?
Posted: 9/25/2009 11:49:18 AM | | Yes I do... I rather find someone who has the same quality and ideals in life but I know it's impossible to find someone who will be exact same person as you are. Yes, I'd be happy if I ended up with an average and normal guy who 'gets' and 'understands' me. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877..............
Posted: 9/25/2009 11:26:17 PM |
no no,I know what you said, Jarbarian, it was something in the lines of
women leaves nice guys
women reluctantly goes to bad boys
women happily stays with balance men
something like that.
Oh yeah, a long tiem ago. That's about exactly what I said.
Women easily leave nice guys.
Women reluctantly stay with bad boys.
Women HAPPILY stay with GOOD, WELL-BALANCED MEN.
Something like that. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877..............
Posted: 9/26/2009 10:14:40 AM | This is a very complicated issue with many layers but is is apparent that the women who prefer badboys are typically from lower income undereducated backgrounds,often with 2 or 3 kids with 2 or 3 different men at a young age but still are to stupid to learn there lesson yet will gladly tell you there stories of abuse after abuse after abuse from every man they have ever been with. I have
^^^I couldn't agree more. It amazes me how most of them will post their abuse stories online to a bunch of strangers. Not that I give a shit though.
Kind of makes you wonder sometimes which ones are actually telling the truth . Or then again maybe some of them are just looking for a little sympathy..yeah right | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877..............
Posted: 9/26/2009 1:45:50 PM | | What kind of cracks me up is these guys that women think are so "bad" and dangerous are more often than not some out of shape peon with few tattoos and a drinking problem, most of these so called badboys will crumble when faced with a real man in any given situation. A true genuinely strong man does not need to be a jerk or an ***hole to get respect. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?
Posted: 9/26/2009 10:38:00 PM | | I used to think that women only wanted bad boys and the whole 'nice guys fiinish last' thing but I know too many genuinely good guys that are married so it clearly isn't the case. Women want a man who is genuinely a caring person but also who's confident in himself and who isn't afraid to stand up for himself. It took me years to learn that the hard way. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?
Posted: 9/28/2009 9:48:06 PM | They will say they do, post long messages about how they are fed up with jerks, but in the end nice guys just aren't "exciting" enough for them. Read the posts here. First thing most say is they want a "nice guy." Then they go on for paragraph after paragraph about partying, having a good time, etc., things most "nice guys" only do in moderation. They post picture after picture of them loaded or witrh some guys hanging all over them and say they want a "nice guy?"
I wasn't successful with women as a "nice guy." Then I learned how to act like a jerk and always had women. I'm old enough now that I refuse to act like a jerk any more, and one day I hope to findone that really wants a nice guy. More likely at my age than yours, sorry to say | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?
Posted: 9/29/2009 8:01:20 PM | | ^^^Inego..... lol and let's not forget how some of them just love going into a shitload of details. It's like reading a f*ckin book of their memoirs . | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?
Posted: 9/29/2009 8:19:07 PM | I meet men who are very nice guys as a front that they put on to hide who they really are, which is usually closet perverts with multiple women and men lovers.
Just once I would like to meet a nice guy who is also honest and open
and just has one woman at a time. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?
Posted: 9/29/2009 9:35:04 PM | <
And don't forget the ones that say "high maintenance and worth it." Got news for you ladies, if you're high maintenance you AREN'T worth it. You just have an overblown sense of self-importance. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?
Posted: 9/29/2009 9:52:57 PM | | Oh yeah, can't forget those ones too. The high maintenance part can be somewhat true for some of them. On the other hand I can see some of them being the "all show no go type" , when they say they're worth it. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?
Posted: 9/29/2009 11:29:27 PM | You know, I was wondering this myself and this seems to be a notion that gets very frustrating sometimes, especially in the dating scene today. That's all I hear from women is "Im looking for nice guy" but the truth is I don't think it's the same thing that males such as ourselves think of as terms of being "Nice". I think that women seem to like the idea of "Mr. Nice Guy". When women say I want a nice guy to date for a change, what they are really saying is that they want a "Macho" male who has the IQ of 6, who doesn't treat them like crap. Not saying all women want that, some women do want the guy who has a goal and drive in life and has the appearance they want but also is a gentlemen. The majority of the women I run into, they do not really look for the nice guy like we think, they are looking for a slightly better person then the one they just got done dating, at least thats my take on it bro. I may not be correct and Im not looking to be, Im just offering my thoughts in hopes, just like you that I may have the same question answered.
Very good post. Ladies, quite putting us men into deep thought, we tend to over analyze things and its just not funny  LOL | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877..............
Posted: 9/29/2009 11:37:22 PM | Problem for a lot of people is that most women go for the badboys when they're young but by the time they realise nice guys are good for them they're often damaged goods (have issues, children, etc.) and will have harder times getting a good guy. Oh well, they made their beds and they must lay in them.
If you want to subscribe to the silly badboy-good guy dichotomy, anyway. It's kinda silly and extreme, really. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877..............
Posted: 9/30/2009 3:30:59 AM | | I used to try to be a nice guy but then i realized i don't even know what that means. It seems to mean different things to different women. Now im just thinking that being nice might mean just being with a compatible person that respects you and you them and if im not then i will seem not nice, all so confusing. | |
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