| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877.............. Posted: 10/26/2009 5:39:35 PM | | Oh my this bad guys and bad girls and nice girls nice guys how many links did I see of this. Well I tell you I' am a nice girl met a man thought he was nice projected himself that way to me. There no way figuring out tell the moment of truth comes fourth and this is speaking from expierence. It just happens tell he messes with yeah way to many times then you just say what a bunch of BS because you know that's all it is BS then you just get out of it. So to the BS I just say what ever lol. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/27/2009 12:06:08 AM | I divorced about 2 years ago took a good break from actual dating just to take care of myself. Yeah being married for 15 years and going back to the dating scene is awkard as hell especially when I had not tried to meet anyone since I was in my teens. So the whole dating game changed. My dad told me somthing right when my divorce started which I doubted but now I think he was right on. He said that woman change when they get close to 30 if they been in a relationship for a long time somthing happens like a wild hair up their butt. Almost like they need to take one more spell at living life just to make sure they are still a woman and attractive. IDK I lost two kids my x went thru depression and made her chocies to start finding herself, she was told she couldnt have kids so I can respect her having to do what ever she had to do to find herself. She knew I wanted kids so made her choice to go find herself mess with younger guys which I regret but she made her bed and now must lay in it cause theres no return after that. Sorry for the rant heheh. As far a the saying looking for a nice guy since I have been hanging out on the dating scene I have watch girls and women choose looks first, of course thats natural selection. For instance I aint putting myself on a pedestal but these two guys I was hanging out with treat females like trash and they loved it. These guys were all about one thing telling the woman what she wants to hear to get what she wants. Even if I warned the girl with a head shake while he was playing her she still went for it. I watched this guy treat this girl like crap. What I had to assume was she saw a nice personality which was a front and hoped she could change that flaw. My dad actually said women always want to change a man. I think thats what it is in the situation your relating too. The hear a guy flatter them attract to them then show their bad side and the woman wants to fix it so she puts up with it untill it break her down. Then they are apprehensive to the next guy who is trying to be honest.
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/27/2009 12:47:18 AM | | Most badboys are ****s I would easily knock the **** out of most of the ones I have seen women with. And no I am not a nice guy anymore... | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/27/2009 1:09:53 AM | - that is if they plan to do more than play checkers with that person. << im replying to the woman that said this I have not figured out how to make it highlighted to show im replying to it.
Wouldnt that be the thought process of someone only thinking short term. Without seeing the true qualities that will matter long term all you will get is the short term other than checkers then when your old and grey you will have no checker partner heh. I definatly understand natural selection, dont get me wrong on this I know attraction matters but, ugly people are just as capable of being good at doing the wild thing look at Ron Jeremy lmao.. All jokes aside in my opinion its all medias fault for instance obease people are over looked and are passed over no matter their personality. its that movie gotta look like the Brangelina Pitt type to be a hottie.
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/27/2009 4:33:54 PM | | I want a nice guy but bad ones always catch my eye first. Lucky for me, I have the experience of being burned and enough common sense to look the other way. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/27/2009 8:17:44 PM |
People please.....lets not complicate the issue,it is all about physical attraction if she is attracted to you then your personality is not an issue... It is for me if you don't have one, it sucks, or you have the intelligence of a fencepost. I like the whole package if I'm gonna be bothered.
Wouldnt that be the thought process of someone only thinking short term. Without seeing the true qualities that will matter long term all you will get is the short term other than checkers then when your old and grey you will have no checker partner heh. For the 99th time, wanting attraction doesn't automatically mean that I don't want anything else. I just want attraction IN ADDITION to everything else. See?
I definatly understand natural selection, dont get me wrong on this I know attraction matters but, ugly people are just as capable of being good at doing the wild thing look at Ron Jeremy lmao.. Nothing wrong with knowing what you're doing - but you still have to find someone who wants to join you (outside a porn set, that is). | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/27/2009 8:51:45 PM | | I really am not into the whole bad guy nice guy. How can you tell, without meeting & getting to know a person. So of the biggest hearted, give you the shirt off there back have been stereotype "bad-boy" I really don't understand the difference. I guess its because I think a bad-boy it a creep that hit women & does drugs, maybe even murder, not because of how he dresses or first impression. Look at Ted Bundy he was a TOTAL "nice guy" type, & look at that, he used that as his many tactics. So you wont go walking away from a crowed with a 6'5 guy on a motorcycle, but you will with a 5'7 nerd cause he is harmless. Yea thats what a lot of women last thoughts are. So I am going to continue to search for a Man with a great heart who loves, & is a Teddy bear inside they are my fav's!!! Of Course this is all IMO!!!! | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/28/2009 10:01:32 AM | Well it happened to me twice in a row. Being a nice guy and getting completely burnt. Still this time around I kept pretty silent about my feelings and that was really helpful. Right now I am performing my disappearing act.
Now both of them are upset that I completely disappeared. The 1st one flat broke up with me the 2nd one was more of an attempt really that went way longer then it should have. I tried the nice guy approach but, was told by her I was not her type.
That is the one thing I like about being a nice guy is that invisible side to it.
What I do not get is exactly that and some of you might be able to explain it to me. Here is what I do, try to build a relationship with a woman yes I know changing their mind is useless but I wait. We date casually at times she admits feelings and then it goes back to me being rejected.
Eventually I give up and disappear. Then these past women get hurt and confused that I am gone. I do not responded and I usually tell them exactly why. I am wasting time and money for a relationship that is not progressing. I am not into friends, I just disappear. Friends are basically losers that did not make the cut and I might do that for a time but for me it is not forever by any stretch.
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/28/2009 5:56:19 PM |
Nothing wrong with knowing what you're doing - but you still have to find someone who wants to join you (outside a porn set, that is).
lol yeah I know i was just making a joke on that one..
For the 99th time, wanting attraction doesn't automatically mean that I don't want anything else. I just want attraction IN ADDITION to everything else. See?
As for the first comment I wasnt intending to be insulting I was more less commenting on concept of what you were saying, all appologizes if it appeared directed at you indirectly. Like I said I understand natural selection and visual impulses. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/29/2009 11:55:32 AM | | Definitely have been searching for a nice guy. Too many good actors nowadays to know who's nice and who's not. I've been screwed over several times by the act. Maybe there are just too many jerks to know just who is actually genuine. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/29/2009 5:58:46 PM | Consider the possibility that each of us wants something specific to his or her own personal history. That it's the unconscious mind that generates the "Wow, who's that" reaction, not the conscious mind, and that it has little to do with feeling good in the short term. It's a feature of how the human brain operates. Maybe it's there to keep us from getting bored by a long life span. The girl next door (years ago, before cell phones were common) came walking through the snow at 3am in stocking feet nursing a fat lip to use my phone to call the cops on her guy for hitting her when she got home after bartime on a work night, and was completely comfortable sitting alone with me in my place though she didn't know me, and shared she was so frustrated because she had sworn she wouldn't make the same mistake her mom did. The unconscious mind acts to create what the conscious mind seeks to avoid. If someone's imago match is a left handed alcoholic tradesman with red hair, the healthy dark haired businessman just doesn't feel right. Do a web search on "Imago theory" for more on this. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/29/2009 10:40:09 PM |
Consider the possibility that each of us wants something specific to his or her own personal history. That it's the unconscious mind that generates the "Wow, who's that" reaction, not the conscious mind, and that it has little to do with feeling good in the short term. It's a feature of how the human brain operates. Maybe it's there to keep us from getting bored by a long life span. The girl next door (years ago, before cell phones were common) came walking through the snow at 3am in stocking feet nursing a fat lip to use my phone to call the cops on her guy for hitting her when she got home after bartime on a work night, and was completely comfortable sitting alone with me in my place though she didn't know me, and shared she was so frustrated because she had sworn she wouldn't make the same mistake her mom did. The unconscious mind acts to create what the conscious mind seeks to avoid. If someone's imago match is a left handed alcoholic tradesman with red hair, the healthy dark haired businessman just doesn't feel right. Do a web search on "Imago theory" for more on this.
You are more right than you know. My past relationships with women taught me everything.
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/29/2009 11:23:04 PM |
If your self confidence comes from whether or not women you don't know like you, then I guess yeah - you should quit dating.
Self confidence SHOULD come from making moves in life, setting out to do something and accomplishing what you can control. What comes of it isn't something you can control, so you can't gauge self worth by it. The success is in trying, and learning from the outcome. Therefore approaching the girl in itself is the success. What comes of it isn't personal at all.
I already quit random dating, although its hard to say if I was really ever involved in it. And I don't know if I am weird or what, or where my self-esteem should come from, but I know what directly affects it in a negative way. And I hardly know any real way to get it back without getting into a relationship.
And I am not the only one that I'm basing my observations of. All of my friend's when they fail to find a girlfriend for a while become pretty depressed about the issue. Some try to hide it but it is pretty obvious that it bothers them and that they start doubting themselves. I guess it must all be just a part of my imagination.
Oh, and I've had a great job, was successful at sports, had great friends, got my degree and know quite a few languages. And neither of those made me feel confident. Although I guess it did, but just by tiny bit, and I would rather keep that tiny bit of confidence that I managed to build up with myself, since it wasn't really an easy thing to achieve for me. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/30/2009 7:50:36 AM | | allwomencareaboutislooksallwomencareaboutislooksallwomencareaboutislooksallwomencareaboutislooksallwomencareaboutislooks.....................all women care about is looks, it does not matter about your other qualities.................good,bad,nice,***hole,jerk,neutral...none of it matters if they don't like your looks | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/30/2009 8:11:55 AM |
I already quit random dating, although its hard to say if I was really ever involved in it. And I don't know if I am weird or what, or where my self-esteem should come from, but I know what directly affects it in a negative way. And I hardly know any real way to get it back without getting into a relationship. That's too bad. Cart before the horse causes a lot more frustration in life. Dating only when it's positive for you is better than trying to date first and then hope it all falls into place. There's too many different people out there to allow them to be what your self esteem is made of.
And I am not the only one that I'm basing my observations of. All of my friend's when they fail to find a girlfriend for a while become pretty depressed about the issue. Some try to hide it but it is pretty obvious that it bothers them and that they start doubting themselves. I guess it must all be just a part of my imagination. I'm not saying people don't base happiness on their status, I'm saying they can choose otherwise. Basing your happiness on whether or not you're single will always depress you when you're not. It is possible not to base your happiness on this, but you have to want to and choose to change it.
Oh, and I've had a great job, was successful at sports, had great friends, got my degree and know quite a few languages. And neither of those made me feel confident. Although I guess it did, but just by tiny bit, and I would rather keep that tiny bit of confidence that I managed to build up with myself, since it wasn't really an easy thing to achieve for me. It should be your sole source of confidence, actually. What others think isn't your problem...your opinion of yourself is what comes first. People then choose whether to agree with you or not. Those who don't agree don't matter.
allwomencareaboutislooksallwomencareaboutislooksallwomencareaboutislooksallwomencareaboutislooksallwomencareaboutislooks.....................all women care about is looks, it does not matter about your other qualities.................good,bad,nice,***hole,jerk,neutral...none of it matters if they don't like your looks I'm sick of men who whine about this. Men are no less interested in what looks good TO THEM, and want to date based on what they're drawn to. Why women cannot do the same without an announcement is beyond me.
YES we prefer dating someone we like to look at. Who doesn't?
However if you think looks are ALL that matters, you're wrong. Personality matters also...it takes BOTH to matter. Maybe if you see it in equation form it'll make more sense?
Cute+bad personality=incomplete (can only be physical) Cute+good personality=Jackpot Unattractive+bad personality=No way Unattractive+good personality=incomplete (can only be friendship)
Women don't want --, -+ or +-. It takes a ++ combination to crack the safe. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/30/2009 1:29:58 PM | | It's not whining and to tell you the truth a lot of women have slept with me for nothing more than my 6 pack, perfect straight white teeth and muscular build so the shallowness has worked in my favour as well as worked against me if they don't like that look...... | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/30/2009 1:39:03 PM | There are a lot of broken people in the world.
Broken people don't behave in the right way toward others.
I had a very bad marital breakdown, but it was caused by the emotions that stem from the failure of a relationship. I was a complete and utter b!tch and the reason, my own breakages, and that of the marriage. It's not who I wanted to be, but I had to be for survival.
Toxicity of a relationship creeps into the individuals, and unless addressed, leads people down paths that 'NICE PEOPLE' cannot understand.
I am NICE, but I have also been BROKEN. It's a case of having enough insight to see the difference and either accept it in someone or not.
Good luck, but the older you get, the more you will see that nice people get ignored for the fact that others don't feel deserving, due to their own issues. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys? Posted: 10/30/2009 2:09:48 PM |
Broken people don't behave in the right way toward others.
I would say welcome to dating. So nice of you to join us. It is being able cipher through the damaged goods to find what you are looking for. I have been classified as a nice guy a few times even so, experience teaches me to see the damaged good signs.
Some of the "nice guys" complain cause they ignored the signs and found out they are hurt afterward. Don't wanna get hurt? Stay home. Dating is like PVP server, and figure that out things should hopefully improve. Hey I just gotten to a point if I am out trying to date the pain will eventually follow.
-Travis | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877.............. Posted: 10/30/2009 2:57:15 PM | | Yes good women do want good men now I think the lines are sort of blurred on what the definition of a Good woman or man is but is not someone who tries to be what they Think a woman most wants. A Good person from either sex is on who is what is good for the other truly meets their criteria and is not faking it just to get someone. I hope that is plain enough. don't give up we are out here that's for sure. | |
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| do any girls actually want nice guys?winston877.............. Posted: 10/30/2009 5:31:50 PM | That is always difficult to speculate on. I always give in my case women multiple chances to either stand up for me like a friend would or even show a bit of interest. I know each scenario is diffrent and it does take time but, if I discover I am simply being used out she goes.
Sure it hurts like hell no one likes to admit that they are simply being used but, eventually that realization comes. Now why are people used? Cause the person doing the using is waiting for the bigger better deal. Right? Here is the thing if you treat others like merchandise do not be surprised it will eventually happen to you.
I asked a woman who kept saying she was my friend why she treated me like merchandise and then discovered she was. Then I told her, I wanted nothing to do with her and she was surprised at me response. Again if you are feeding someone you are using them and their response is negative why be shocked? I know people I manipulate through one method or another I am not surprised of their response when it goes negative. Again your not the only one with a brain in your head and can figure things out and arrive to your conclusion either. This is what breaks the nice guy ideal or nice woman ideal. My guess is not all people are con jobs and do not treat them as such.
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