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Posted: 11/23/2005 7:46:03 PM | I'm sorry, I remember that from like 25 or more years ago when I was a kid!! I may have gotten the story a little, or a lot, mixed up! Maybe, this fellow went to Jesus after he went to the prostitute and asked Jesus for forgivness. And Jesus said it was okay for one reason and another! I guess if the story went that way it kind of takes on different meanings - eh!! LOL!! I guess I TTT'd,.... THRUST my opinion in this THREAD before I THOUGHT about it!!!  I meant well; oh well!!  | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 2:47:39 AM |
If you were to completely follow what God says in that aspect, there wouldn't be the crazy diseases going around that we have today.
ASB, this is complete bull... if people only had sex in marige then there would be an increase in heridtory disease and likey also be an increase in STD (plesae do remember that STDs are NOT only transmited through sex.). Sex with multiple partners is both natural and helthy.
While I definitely do not agree with ASB's statement I must admit to being a bit perplexed by your logic here. STDs are primarily transmitted by sexual intercourse, blood transfusions, and sharing needles. If you cut out one of the three primary transfer methods, how would this result in an increase in STDs?
If people had no sex out of wedlock it would definitely reduce the prevalence of STDs, but it would by no means wipe them out. Also how would faithful marriages result in an increase in hereditory disease?
It is almost like you made this post while seriously sleep deprived or otherwise incapacitated, because you usually make a lot more sense than this. | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 7:04:27 AM | | happening- no worries! I think I DO remember a story with a prostitute, but I really don't remember it. Isn't there one where Jesus accepts a prostitute or something? Like forgives her? UGH, why am I drawing a blank? | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 8:35:35 AM | | Yes it was the woman at the well. It is really unsure is she was one or not but it was suggested as such because Jesus told her she had many husbands and most prostitutes hung around wells. | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 9:06:34 AM | | That's what I don't understand. Why was it OK for people to have more than one husband or wife? That doesn't make sense. And if the women were anything like me, they would be pretty selfish and not want to share her man | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 10:49:31 AM | SweetTreat
^^ I agree personally..I've always said that if you beleive the Bible you should beleive it all, NT and OT however I'm surprised at how many christians don't seem to think that.
I totally agree with that. However, Christians seem to pick up the verses that suit them well and use that from Old Testament and discard the rest although Jesus has clearly stated the following:
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
"For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."
[The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20] | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 10:53:48 AM | Peter Holmgren
Buddhism does not have a problem with prostitution or prostitutes at all. It's a personal choice, what people use their body for. Buddhism does not see a protitute to be like that or like that, but just as being as everyone else.
Some uses their body for sex, others use it for violence. If more used their bodies for prostitution or sex, rather that for violence, it would be the a much more peaceful and friendly world we lived in.
Don't forget all the diseases that we have brought in the world as a result of it, Aids. And no condom doesn't give 100% protection at all. Infact, if you visit every single condom manufacturer they tell you about that too. | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 11:23:28 AM | "And if the women were anything like me, they would be pretty selfish and not want to share her man"
asb: Sharing is the Christian thing to do. Being a religious person I am more than willing to
allow as many women as want to, to share me. This is why I know where I am going
when I die!!!!! | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 12:04:11 PM | ray- If you are a Christian, you are going to go by what God says, correct? God tells us not to go messin around with other men or women when we are married. I'm sorry, but I love my man too much to cheat on him. Heck if you guys had that kinda relationship where you both came to an understanding where you DID do things with other people out of your relationship, than that's fine. That's your life. But I could never do that. And I'm certain that God frowns upon that. Plus, if you really loved that person, why would you want to do that? It's not right. And you are right, sharing is the thing to do, but not in that aspect.
^^ I agree personally..I've always said that if you beleive the Bible you should beleive it all, NT and OT however I'm surprised at how many christians don't seem to think that.
People SHOULD take into account the whole Bible. It isn't like God is telling us, "OK now, you can read it all if you feel like it, but just really pay attention to these certain parts."
Everything in the Bible is special. Even if you think of it (OT) in a common sense sort of way. Things were hard before Jesus was born. Think of what it COULD have been like if He didn't change that... It would be nuts! Even if you look at it from an appreciative p.o.v... But ya, the who Bible would be believed and read. That's just my opinion tho. | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 12:05:13 PM | likey also be an increase in STD
Sorry, I would like to aplogise for my misleading statement. This should have read "LIKELY be an increase in CERTAIN TYPES of STD's" Please note there should be emphasis on the LIKELY.
Studies have shown that STD's like Herpies, which can be transmited through touch and by kissing, have an increased risk factor in Maried couples, due to a chainge in motivation, behavior, and risk behavior. Outside of Marige, thge majority of people were found to be at reduced risk due to an increase in risk reduction methods. With diseases such as Herpies and Strep and Staf, washing after sex can effect the risk factor of infection and so reduce your chances of obtaining the disesase, this and other risk factor behariours are more comon outside of wedlock than within it, as such specific types of risk factor are increased in wedlock and so to are the STD's that rely on them.
It is important to note that the inverse is also true. Other types of risk factor are reduced and so the STD's that use these as thier primary mode of transmition are reduced.
then there would be an increase in heridtory disease
Heridory disease would be increased in a single partner societies as there would be a reduction in genetic variance.
Lets give a basic example.
Single partner relationship. Multiple partner relationship.
male with MS. female witout MS. 2 males with, 2 without MS. female without MS.
8 children. 8 children.
4 with MS, 4 without. Partner 1, 1 with MS 1 without.
Partner 2, 1 with MS 1 without.
Partner 3, 2 without MS.
Partner 4, 2 without MS.
This totals 2 with MS and 6 without.
Of course this only a basic example of how it works, without showing the Gene freaquencies and finding specific information on the Genes involved and the expresion ratios of those Genes I can't give much clearer information | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 12:42:22 PM | passionteman wrote :
Don't forget all the diseases that we have brought in the world as a result of it, Aids. And no condom doesn't give 100% protection at all. Infact, if you visit every single condom manufacturer they tell you about that too.
Sex doesn't bring disease to the world. It's just a way of spreding it. All the "sexually transferred" diseases can also be transferred other ways.
However, if you don't die from AIDS, you might as well die form either some airborn ebola or get hit by a drunk driver. We are all gonna die sooner or later, and we can't do anything about it no matter what.
Dying is just a natural part of life, that it is to go to the toilet a dump a load of... you get the point. Death is no big deal.
It's funny though. People still ties sickness together with "being dirty" as soon as it has something to do with out intimite parts. I once had a friend who was into S/M. After a session she used a public toilet - and got the HIV.
Actually the prostitues (at least in Denmark) are more aware of cleanliness, hygene, and diseases, than most "ordinary" people are. | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 1:07:03 PM | Peter Holmgren
Sex doesn't bring disease to the world. It's just a way of spreding it. All the "sexually transferred" diseases can also be transferred other ways.
I didn't say sex brings disease.
However, if you don't die from AIDS, you might as well die form either some airborn ebola or get hit by a drunk driver. We are all gonna die sooner or later, and we can't do anything about it no matter what.
I know that everyone dies. Why not live longer (instead of being in sick bed with AIDS) and have sex more and more without getting the disease from some prostitute who even lied in order to get some $$$$.
Dying is just a natural part of life, that it is to go to the toilet a dump a load of... you get the point. Death is no big deal.
Everyone knows that dying is a natural part of life.
Actually the prostitues (at least in Denmark) are more aware of cleanliness, hygene, and diseases, than most "ordinary" people are.
It is not important if the prostitute is hygeinic or not. She gets banged by different types of people with billions of diseases and STDs and you become the victim too and next thing you are in hospital instead of enjoying a good bang life.. | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 1:11:05 PM |
know that everyone dies. Why not live longer (instead of being in sick bed with AIDS) and have sex more and more without getting the disease from some prostitute who even lied in order to get some $$$$.
Ummmm yeah. Ok.. the odds of you catching a disease from a normal street walker, are extremely high. Going however to an Elite Escort, or a Brothel, really low. Not only do these places use protection, they also do screening every 30 days.
It's kind of like "you get what you pay for" $50 on the street corner, nuff said, $250...quality and the like. | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 1:39:29 PM | Passionteman wrote :
I didn't say sex brings disease
Right! Sorry about that.
I know that everyone dies. Why not live longer (instead of being in sick bed with AIDS) and have sex more and more without getting the disease from some prostitute who even lied in order to get some $$$$.
LOL! I see your point. I misread you at first. I'm really tired, which affects my ability to read. Been up all night helping a person who wanted to commit suicide -idiot! Broken heart thing..geeez!.
Yes... it's good to be rational about it - I agree on that. However it's also not healthy to be too paranoid about it.
Everyone knows that dying is a natural part of life.
Still not everybody accepts it, and it constantly fighting it.
It is not important if the prostitute is hygeinic or not. She gets banged by different types of people with billions of diseases and STDs and you become the victim too and next thing you are in hospital instead of enjoying a good bang life..
Well - yes - but.... What if the "civilian" had it instead? Maybe we are having our thoughts on two different types of prostitutes, or maybe it's just a cultural difference from the us and Denmark. | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 1:47:40 PM |
Well - yes - but.... What if the "civilian" had it instead? Maybe we are having our thoughts on two different types of prostitutes, or maybe it's just a cultural difference from the us and Denmark.
Ouch...but true. I have girlfriends (with respectable careers I might add) that have more sexual partners than some friends of my friends that escort lol Has anyone seen Sex And The City? Samantha..HELLO lol | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 2:53:52 PM |
It is not important if the prostitute is hygeinic or not. She gets banged by different types of people with billions of diseases and STDs and you become the victim too and next thing you are in hospital instead of enjoying a good bang life..
I can definitely agree with you on that! | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 5:47:03 PM | Here are some interesting things I found in the ole trusty Layman's Dic.
Sodom/Sodoma
One of five cities destroyed by God because of the wickedness (Gen. 19:1-28). It is often mentioned in the Bible as a symbol of evil and as a warning to sinners (Isa. 1:9; Rev. 11:8).
Sodomite (Temple Prostitute)
A man who engages in sexual activities with other men- a perversion condemned by God (Deut. 23:17-18).
Prostitute (see Harlot)... Harlot (Prostitute)
Harlotry was forbidden among God's people (Lev. 19:29). Engaging in prostitution was often compared to the spiritual adultery of God's people (Isa. 57:7-9; Rev. 17:1-18) | |
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Posted: 11/25/2005 8:00:24 AM | Gorilla,
After reading your post I have some questions for you. I wanted to ask these questions before I comment on your post, because often times people go about ranting and raving about something that someone else has written without first ensuring they understand it.
-In your 4'th point are you saying that by taking birth control a women is becoming a whore? I am quoting when this part "Women's lib has enabled women to be lose, promiscuous, without the consequences of pregancy, when they use birth control pills. Making woman into whores."
-You note in your 6th and 7th paragraphs that you feel sorry for Africa and go on to say that Condoms are not the answer. You continue by noting that safe sex is non-existent and that marital sex is the only way. My question I suppose is this: how do we help Africa then, is it by making sure they adopt Christianity?
-You also note in paragraph 8 that Gay people are always asking for donations to AIDS relief efforts etc., and yet don't stop engaging in "their bathhouse behavior, going to debauchery parties where gays romp with a hundred other men in wild sex parties." I was wondering what evidence you were relying on when you made this statement? Also, I was wondering if this statement was a result of your disapproval of a persons lifestyle if they are gay?
-Finally, I was wondering whether or not you think AIDS relief charities are a good cause?
I am curious to read your responses before I make any comments on your post. | |
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Posted: 11/25/2005 11:24:49 AM | Okay, what do you think the root cause of AIDS is?
You realize that people who are not relegious and have sex may not want to have children. Birth control is an effective means of achieving this end. Also, many women use birth control as a means to regulate their menstral cycle.
And with respect to your comments on people who are Gay, all that I can say is you are entitled to your opinion. It is just unfortunate that you think Gay people have an agenda that has put a nail in the coffin of American. I imagine that more people would be inclined to think that the war in Iraq has been a nail in the coffin. | |
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Posted: 11/25/2005 12:07:55 PM | A lot of times though with birth control is the woman have to take it to regulate their periods just like what brain said. I had to lol.
And the thing is with gays, a sin is a sin to God. What makes my swearing and their sleeping with the same sex better or worse? Nothing. God died for my swearing and them doing their thing. I have gay friends. Do I agree with their lifestyles? Nope. But the ones I know are great people. So I can't help but like em. | |
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Posted: 11/25/2005 1:47:13 PM | Gorilla Grod assumed:
5. Buddhism has a different attitude about sex than Christianity. I traveled in Thailand, where sex tourism and AIDS are a major industry, sometimes run by gangs who kidnap young girls into this white slavery, so to speak. In Buddhism, men may have a major and a minor wife. Men sleep around, and it is almost accepted by the wife as a part of Thai culture.
that is a cultural thing - not a buddhist thing, however - buddhism doesn't hit people in the heads and whine about this and that. People are free to do with their lifes as they wish. No restraints. Look at it this way - who keeps prostitution alive? The Thai's or the americans. like you, cumming there as tourists?
Buddhism does nothing to try and stop it. As a result, Thailand is on the road to the most devastating AIDS country in history. A timebomb is happening. I, as a Christian, did not participate in this sex sin, but I did study it, as I study cultures all over the world, including China.
You STUDY cultures???? Better start all over again from square one, 'cause you definately need basic knowledge in your studies. | |
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Posted: 11/25/2005 1:51:10 PM | gorilla Grod kept rambling :
I say all this out of love, I have been very remiss in the sex area in my life and have been a severe womanizer in the past. I now repent and stay celibate. Blessings to all.
Yeah right dude. You havn't got an ounce of love in ya to give. But you staying celibate is a good thing; it will make the genepool stronger. | |
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Posted: 11/25/2005 3:10:18 PM |
Women's lib has enabled women to be lose, promiscuous, without the consequences of pregancy, when they use birth control pills.
Ummmmm first of all women have always been "promiscuous", as have men. The only difference is that if pregnancy comes about who wears the prominant "scarlett letter"? The woman who's belly swells, not the man who's seed was planted there.
Making woman into whores.
Making women whores? Well the definition of a whore is one who sells thier body for sex, not just someone that "sleeps around", which is what you are implying.
People don't realize, AIDS in Africa is just like Thailand, it is caused by promiscuity,
If you knew ANYTHING about Africa, you'd also know that the major cause of the spread of Aids in Africa is the fact that many women are raped by Guerillas, heads of goverment, militia groups, etc.
Gays are dying of AIDS and want us to donate to AIDS relief
Gays are not the only people dieing of aids, maybe you should do a little bit of research and you'd find out that straight people get infected with aids all the time. It's not just a "gay sex" disease, it's transmitted through blood, saliva, blood tansfusions, etc. | |
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Posted: 11/25/2005 3:14:07 PM | | I think most RHP religions condemn prostitution.Personally I have no problem with it.To each his own. | |
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Posted: 11/25/2005 3:17:21 PM | I know this might go against the thread, but personally I think there IS a cure for aids, but the govt. is making so much money off aids that they wouldn't reveal it to anyone. Think about it.... We can put a man on a different planet, but we can't cure a virus? Doesn't make sense.... It's a conspiracy!  | |
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