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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 7/15/2006 12:51:08 AM | This is a story about my four sisters. They all live here in Texas, and have all screwed
over all the men in their lives. Starting with my dad. Two of them have three kids.
One of them have four. The last and least has the most high dollar kid I have seen.
Yes, you guessed it, none of them work,LEGAL,and all have cash jobs that make them
one to three hundred dollars a weekend.{CASH}They eat on food stamps, live in Hud, and we
also pay "ALL" of their medical bills {we is me AND YOU.}
Now they all get child support. Enough to make you cry. They all drive brand new suv's
and have top of the line clothes. The fingernails are done every week too. The kids
make their own breakfast every day. {she is busy sleeping from the hangover}
They all get max payments, and all know the system back and front.{lazy slobs, nasty}
All four have been married three times each, and have slept around on each husband, and
they sit around and laugh about the next dumb husband they can take to the cleaners.
They all say that women all know the ropes to do this, and that is all men are good for.
"GUYS" , If your not fixed now, get it done before you have your life jerked out from under
your feet from a woman. They all will say "IM NOT LIKE THAT" and it is the exact words
my sisters work with too. SO, KEEP IT IN YOUR PANTS, ONE HOUR OF PLEASURE IS NOT
WORTH 18 YEARS OF PAYMENTS. You could not make me marry now that I see how the
demons from hell work. And just know this, they are sweet, and so beautiful too.
ones in Odessa, and ones in Midland. One is in Dallas area, and one is in Flower Mound.
Just think, it is not worth it. JUST SAY NO.NO.NO. SHE IS OUT THERE WAITING NOW....
YOU ARE JUST A PAYCHECK TO ALL OF THEM.....YES,,,ALL OF THEM........GO BUY A MAGAZINE AND STAY SINGLE.... DON'T BE ONE FOR THE BOOKS........ | |
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Posted: 7/15/2006 10:54:14 AM | Hi Mike,
You gave the guys in those four area's something to think about. Its to bad the judge in some of these family law cases don't make the gal's/ and guys both get fixed, it would save all of us a lot of grief and tax dollars. It would save some of these children a messed up life also. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2006 1:59:22 AM | Your so right my friend. And I just touched on the top of the Ice-berg.
The youngest one has now started dating a Doctor in the Dallas Area. {poor guy}
She gets pregnant ever time a man looks at her.$$$$$$$$ She is the Devil.
They tell all the men that their ex husband was so mean, and hit them. {lies}
The stupid judge was eating out of their hands, with the low cut top, and the short
short skirt, man , that judge would have given her anything she wanted. {and did too}
Guys, you don't have a chance in court. And if she wears little clothing, it is most
of the time worse. Once my sister had a woman judge at a payment hearing for more
money. She told me she was afraid when she saw her up there. The judge started
to flirt with her,{she said} and got her a increase, and they had drinks later that night.
She dated her for a while, and got her to be her friend.{carpet time}
When ever I get to meet one of the men, I pull them aside,and tell them if you ever
listened to any one in your life, "RUN LIKE HELL". They don't listen, cause they still
want to get laid. Man you mess with these gals, you may get laid in the ground from
no telling how many strains of death. This is just a real reminder of the danger here.
I hope to see a little thinking with the head on top of the body now guys. now this is all of the
stuff they tell me at get togathers and stuff. And they tell me the truth most of the
time, because I have not one thing they want. I think all of it is so true.... | |
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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 7/17/2006 2:35:49 AM | It dont always work out for the mom.
I only got $410 a month for four kids. But that what happens when your ex is cop and Logde buddy with the judge. I had to turn to state to collect the support for me because of the legal system. I did not have the money to go hire a lawyer everytime he did not feel like paying. And top it off when the state went to raise it to right percentage of his income (an extra $500 in support a month), his cop friends notified him and he quit his job, putting me at an even lower child support then what I origanlly had. So the state to protect my children dropped the case. The insurance what a joke, all it states in the decree is he provided medical and emergany insurance. So he got the cheapest he could that covers only for a certain doctor that is about 150 miles from me.
No matter what, in a divorce someone always gets the short end | |
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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 7/17/2006 7:39:03 AM | | Well i do understand yer point. but no state says how she has to spend the money. and $750.00 is not that bad it does take a lot of money to raise a kid.clothes,food,house,electric.school,and then the fun stuff.dont think of it as going to her. think of it as for yer son and the sting wont hurt so bad. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2006 8:33:11 AM | | Mike, I know you are bitter, but honestly not all women are that way. Child support is very important for taking care of the children, but it wasn't the first thing I thought of when my now ex-husband said he was leaving. I didn't think immediately how can I screw him over so that he can't possibly live and have a better life than him. I agreed with him and took less than entitled to because I thought he would be financially strapped. HA! He moved in with the woman he was cheating on me with, who makes a lot of money. He's living on easy street, and I'm struggling to make sure the kids are fed. But I'm not bitter (LOL). I just want to say...All women don't just get pregnant so they can stay home and collect child support. Don't generalize all women based on your family's history. | |
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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 7/17/2006 9:09:13 AM | | I understand what you guys are saying but I live in Texas, I went through a divorce, I have two kids but both my ex and I agreed that we both brought these kids into the world and we should share equally in raising them. We had joint custody, I did not ask for child support, we equally contributed. I had stayed home with my kids when they were small so they would be raised with our standards not a strangers, so divorcing meant I had to go back into the work force after 10 years hiatus. OKay, I just wanted to say, not all women take men for child support or don't assume the responsibilities of raising them financially. One more thing, according to the judicial system of the state of Texas, half of those canned goods were yours! | |
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Posted: 7/17/2006 9:57:50 AM | Well, I have to agree that the current system does suck. But, I was lucky enough to find a way around it after divorcing the mother of my two youngest. I had the court set up payroll deductions for the 25% of my NET pay so there would be no issues about being late. (Until I got laid off and before the paperwork was processed for the deduction on my new job, she called the Child Support office to check on the status and guess who got a free ticket to jail over one late payment) I know she was spending the money on whatever SHE needed but, I looked at it this way... If she didn't have the money from me, she would be spending whatever little bit she was spending on the kids on the stupid crap she was using my checks for. So either way, the kids benefited from my money. When our youngest was about 4, she asked if I could take the kids because she couldn't provide for them anymore, which I gladly did. (She and the loser she married after we divorced had already squandered the $10,000 CD's that the kids were given for college by their great-grandmother) My daughter (the youngest) is now 12 and our son who is now 14 lived with me for 6 years and the only time I ever asked her for anything was to help with school clothes or expenses for soccer, baseball, and softball. She never paid a dime. We thought we would try to get back together in '03 and the kids and I moved to Magnolia with her. When that didn't work out (for the same reasons of infidelity and greed as the first time) I moved out and the kids stayed there. So far, she has not mentioned child support and has promised not to becuase I do anything that I can for the kids and provide whatever they need. Both kids hate living with her and I was laid off in February again (and that's a whole other story too...contract work sucks) so I can't take them right now. I have remained totally civil with her throughout all of our differences and NEVER talk down about her to the kids. I have learned from other divorced people who could not carry on a conversation without screaming at each other or worse and who constantly belittled the other in front of the kids that the best thing for all involved is to vent to someone not directly involved in the conflict.
All that to say this....Yes, the child support is a financial burden and we have no way of knowing how it is spent. Yes, I believe the system to be biased toward women. But, the financial inconvenience is well worth it to know that either directly or indirectly the money is indeed benefiting your children and that they are being provided at least the basic necessities. As for the custody side, if the custodial parent is not providing the needs of the children sufficiently, the children DO have the option of requesting the parent they want to live with. I was recently told the minimum age is 14 but not sure. I haven't checked the Texas Family Code on that one yet. (and it IS online at http://www.texasonline.com although it is difficult to find it in its entirety on there)
Hang in there guys, as frustrating as it may be, the kids WILL remember who is truly there for them. That makes it all worth it! | |
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Posted: 7/17/2006 10:54:31 AM | I agree with you on that. My boyfriend has a daughter with another lady she is 8 now and when he started paying child support to her it was 280.00 per month but now he had gotten behind and has to pay 400.00 per month for one child. To top it off her mom had section 8 and was only paying 78.00per month for rent and living off of Oltorf and she was barely ever home so I know her electricity wasn't that much per month. And she had the nerve to tell him that she needed more money for child support. I was so pissed for him. He stuggles to pay our bills cause I stay home with our year old daughter because god knows that daycare is too damn expensive. and he has to pay that **** money she doesnt' even keep their daughter half the time she sends her to her friends house her boyfriends house or with her own mom. It pisses me off when she wants him to keep her and expects me to keep her cuz he works. Don't get me wrong I love that little girl to death it just makes me made mad that she treats me like that. Ugh I know exactally how you feel
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Posted: 7/23/2006 4:14:25 PM | Hang in there guys, as frustrating as it may be, the kids WILL remember who is truly there for them. That makes it all worth it!
Brian,
Those last lines are ever so true...my mom tells me that all the time. I use to live in constant fear that my son would want to go live with his father if I tried to maintain discipline because according to my ex, his job with my son was to play...make everything fun. But through time I came to see that my son DOES know who was there for him throughout everything.
As far as the legal system in Texas goes, well, I can't say whereas it's bias towards one gender or the other. I think it all depends on how convincing you can be when you stand up there and try the "poor me" crap! Those of us who deserve better for our kids get screwed..both CPs and NCPs...
I filed for divorce when the emotional abuse brought about by his addictions got to be more than I could stand and more than I thought my son needed to see. I agreed to $250 a month in child support plus the insurance because my ex said if I'd take it, he wouldn't fight for custody. I accepted, knowing that he needed money to have a place to live anyway, and I never have believed in taking someone to the cleaners (although he tried it on me). At first, he wouldn't pay. Then he said he'd pay if I gave him his big screen TV. Can't you imagine how our son felt??? I gave him the TV to begin with, but when he moved out of the house after refusing to move until I did,he left it there. Since I was paying for it (along with EVERYTHING else) I went and got it. I didn't want it stolen, since everyone knew the house had been abandoned. Anyway, he came and got the TV, but still didn't pay anything. This was AFTER I paid $400 for my half of mediation. In mediation, he agreed once again to the child support and insurance, the division of bills (he was suppose to pay for the tv and his truck, which was also in my name..I got the rest of the bills), but refused to sign the papers. When my lawyer finally petitioned the judge, he brought some lawyer with him that, although he admitted to mine that my ex's whole family was crazy, pled his case that he wasn't making the money he was when he agreed to the child support. I told the judge that for once he was telling the truth. When I filed for divorce, he was making $12 or $12.50 an hour. He quit that job when his sister introduced him to a friend of hers (a woman much older than him) and he moved in with her. Now get this, he was living with this woman, taking my son over there, and had it stipulated in the papers that neither of us could have overnight guests of the opposite sex!!! What a riot!! Anyway, to get back to the money thing. I told the judge that he had quit his job and had NO job when he agreed to the amount there. By this time he was back at work, making somewhere around $7.50 an hour. The judge kept the child support at $250, but lowered the amount of the arrears and insurance that he had to pay to almost nothing! But, hey, at least it was coming directly out of his check, right? Well, yeah, until he got busted twice for DWI with our son in the truck with him (his mother's truck, he let the other one go back to "financially ruin me"), and then was arrested for forgery of his stepfather's checks. Somehow he arranged to give up the probation from the DWI (he was only charged for one because the arresting officer in the other died) and commit himself into a state rehabilitation program. Okay, I can deal with that...he's getting the help he needs to be the right kind of father for our son. A year and a half later, he's back at work, and the child support finally starts back...until he meets a friend of his niece. He's 43, mind you, and looks ALOT older after all the alcohol and drugs. This girl is 19. Anyway, they get married and she goes into the army. She makes it through basic training and has 9 weeks of AIT left when he decided to quit his job (AGAIN) and follow her to Missouri. Nine weeks, now...he gives up his job which was helping to support our son! Needless to say, our 16 year old was not to happy about it, and let his father know. The latest is that they (father and step mother) are back living with his mother, not paying rent or anything, he's quit yet another job, and he's not paying child support. (I forgot to mention that in between living with two or three different women, he lived with his mom and step-father.) Our son is a senior in high school now, or will be officially in two weeks, and as soon as the papers are signed by the judge, his father is suppose to go to jail for six months for violation of his probation related to the child support. There is no work release program in Van Zandt County, so during that time there will still be no support. In the meantime, it's Mom who is doing all the providing for this wonderful young man, financially, emotionally, etc. I'm not complaining, except that our son deserves better. He has a parttime job that helps with some of his extra stuff, but still....
Oh, and that part about the child support ending at 18 unless your child goes to college...that's not a given thing. My ex doesn't have to pay one dime of our son's college. He's suppose to be paying half of all medical, but he refused the first round (supposedly they were added to the arrears) and second round (AG's office said there was nothing they could do about that), so I don't even bother trying to get him to anymore. It's not worth the hassle! And the transportation back and forth if you move away..well, I've paid most of that as well. The last time our son went out though, he refused to even tell his father he was coming and chose instead to spend the time with his friends. I can't say that I blame him, either! | |
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Posted: 7/23/2006 6:19:31 PM | | I feel and live your pain, your not alone. Texas sux's so bad it makes me want to puck. i moved her only for my son. Thats where his Mom wants to live. So noone needs to tell me to just leave. Texas SUCKS!!!! I pay out the ass and she Makes more money. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2006 5:43:08 AM | The money is for the boy, not for her. And if he's old enough to be playing sports, his upkeep does cost a lot. And i'm sure her income is more than yhours. You just sound greedy. Try taking custody and keeping him fulltime. See how much you like it.
From now on if you don't like supporting a kid, why not use birth control?
YOu could just as easily have left her and taken everything yourself. You're just upest she got to it first. If she "ripped out your heart" this proves you're still in love with her, which is stupid. If she was so bad, you should be happy to be rid of her. Why let a slut mess you up and make you so crazy? SHe had a good reason to be looking for someone else. You probably were stingy and greedy with her all along.
Of course, you could do like a lot of divorced men who pay child support - Look for another woman to marry and use her income to pay it - if you can find a woman that dumb! I never was. And I used birth control so I'd never have this problem. | |
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Joined: 4/16/2006
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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 7/24/2006 6:13:20 AM | Hey texastori41, Thanks for speaking up, as I read this my blood boiled actually. What kills me is those who pay child support complain about it, ok lets look at it like this. I dont know about you but i make less than my ex, regardless most if not all of my income goes toward needs of my children, I come last...Which is how it should be. However, my ex pays a whole 25 % of his income (woo hoo) and gets a whole 75 % to himself., oh and makes more than twice what I make, . My ex cheated on me and left me after his career was up and going. I had just gone back to school to finish the degree i started and put on hold to raise our children, since he was gone a lot.These men above who are bitter about paying child support, I know all of them didnt ask for a divorce, but its reality, I do think the system is messed up however I know three men that I have dated that have custody of their children and meet more that do all the time . The notion that women only get their kids, well a lot of that is because frankly a lot of men DONT WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY , they want to be a weekend dad when they feel like it. Divorce Sucks period, no matter who you are talking to and Child Support is just a consequence of that action.
Any way thanks girl for posting and I agree with ya, just as the judge in my parenting class said to both of us, you will never get enough child support and you will always pay too much child support... | |
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Posted: 7/24/2006 8:42:12 AM | | THE ANSWER IS: IF YOU PLAY, YOU PAY. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY AND WOMEN KNOW IT. IF YOU ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO IMPREGNATE A WOMAN WITHOUT REAKLLY KNOWING HER, UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING TO COST YOU. MOST OF THEM AREN'T WORTH IT. IT IS VERY UNFAIR. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2006 10:47:04 AM | | The only way my ex will be helping pay for college is if he ever gets back off his sorry butt and gets a job....he's so far in arrears that I might have help for the first year or so, but that's the only way. He even stood there and told our son he better plan on getting a scholarship or working his way through college. This, from a man who has never REALLY supported himself. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2006 11:22:40 AM | On this issue of being forced to pay child support during college years, it's not required under Texas law. Of course, I'll help my child with college, but my ex can only bleed me till my child is 18, or when she graduates from high school, or marries.
http://www.raggiolaw.com/txart02.html
"Absent marriage or other acts which would emancipate the child, child support orders continue until the child reaches age 18. If the child is in high school at age 18, support continues until high school graduation. If the child is disabled, it may be possible to continue child support for an indefinite period. Texas law makes no provision for support during college, or the payment of college expenses. However, this can be done by a contract between the parties if an agreement can be reached on this issue."
You'll see it says a "contract" can be entered into if both parties agree, but that's the extent of it. If no agreement can be reached, the custodial parent is just SOL.
For anybody that's being forced to pay child support for college, it most likely was written into the final divorce decree, added by a wise attorney who hoped it would be overlooked, and it slipped through the cracks and went unnoticed by your attorney or yourself. It's not a standard part of a final decree of divorce in this state. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2007 9:44:43 AM | sorry,its' been awhile since i've left a post here...is this thread still active?...well no matter,someone will read this someday...
Had a few things I wanted to say here yet again..sure someone here has probably said it already...but I am being lazy and I am not going to read everyone of these post right now..so here's what I have to say this time....
I read in a few of your(ie. everyones in general) post here, that people are complaining that we aren't take'n into concideration that the custodial parent has loss's of income due to things such as illness and time off work due to child(ren)'s illness....dont you think that the non-custodial parent also has loss of income due to the same things?
You know, when I ,on the rare occation these days, have my kids, and they get sick...I take time off work also, thus leading to a smaller paycheck-ie. loss of income...I also pay for the medical attention on my own.
On the topic of "things that happen" , if my child is in ,say...baseball for example....I have no problem paying for their equipment...if it's something they want to do,hell...i'm all for it. Even though i'm not the one holding custody of my kids, I'll pay for it...no big deal...cause I know my kids want to do it and they will benifit from having those items.
Now, as for the topic of the non-custodial parent should pay up to 1/2 for the custodial parents mortgage or rent...I dont think so...how about helping with the bills, you ask..again..no.
It's my opinion and belief that you are both..hear me there? BOTH the parents of the child....
It's not fair to the other parent to have to pay for their living expences and your's as well.....
It's YOUR job as the parent to provide a roof over your child's head....which sounds like a contradiction..but hear me out....for most people here arent getting the point of us non-custodial parents complaints....so pay attention.
Now understand...we are talking about the sorry excuse,no count, worthless parents here...
The ones that had cheated on the other party and TOOK the kids leaving the other parent with no hope of getting them back. And yes...mainly the females that are guilty of this. Bias? Possibly...but it doesnt change the fact that its' true.
So back on topic here...for those that fall under the catagory of the worthless cheating parent....If you were cheating on your spouse,took your kids,and of corse,won in court, you should pay your own living expences...you are also the parent,so act like it! Work! Put the food on the table,put the roof over the kid(s) head. It's not the other parents responcibillity to provide you with these things...you were the one that left, you were the one that cheated....it's not our fault you are a crappy person, so why is it ok or allowed to make us pay for YOUR mistake?
Ask ANY TRUE PARENT,,,any....and they will tell you and prove to you they dont care about paying any cost to make their child happy and to give them the things they need....
Any true parent will work their fingers to the bone,spend so much they are eating out of dumpsters so they can give all they have to their child(ren).
A true parent is there to make the child happy and to ensure them the best life possible.
They are NOT here to give you the best life possible,and they are not here to make you happy...trust me,,we could care less if you are happy. You should have thought about what you did before you went and did it...ya think?
Sure you might sit there and say,well if that were true,you wouldnt care about paying half rent or bills or what ever in the other's house hold to provide for a better life for your child...
See, here's the back and forth crap that erks the hell out of me....
Sure ,it would be great to see my kids in a nice house,with nice things and all that...
So let them come live with me....plain and simple...it's not my fault that you are a dead beat... get out there and work, provide for the kids YOU TOOK from the other parent....
Damn it..if i have to do it,so should you. If my kids lived with me it would be no different..
I still have to work to pay my bills, I still have to pay for child care, I still have to pay for medical expences, and yet I have a nice place,and nice things and dont allow trashy people around my kids....I work my @ss off for these things, despite the childsupport I pay...you know why?........
Cause I AM A TRUE PARENT !!!!!
I wouldnt expect anyone..hear me ..ANYONE to pay half of crap for my living expences, or my bills, or anything else....those are my responcibilities as an ADULT, let alone a parent.
I too have to take time off work,for my own illness's and my kids'. I loose money. There is no way around that...no work..no get paid...very simple concept....and yet...I still get my stuff paid. You know why?
I'M A TRUE PARENT and I am more deserving than you to have custody of my kids!
The above applying to the worthless not wanting to work dead beats of parents out there.
Specificly to those that are complaining that we should pay for them to live nice.
If you want to live nice...work for it.
If you are that worthless and dont want to provide for the child(ren) that you took from the other parent....stop living off of them and do the right thing...admit you are not capable of being the parent you try and make your self out to be because you are only hurting the kids and perpetuating the abserd acts of the judicial system by allowing things like that to take place...
If you can not,or will not be a PARENT and provide your child with these things , give them back to the parent that will....I know it's a lot to ask....but stop being a bit
It's both parents duty to provide the child(ren) with these things independently when a seperation takes place....so one parent should not be forced to support TWO households....
It's the other parents job to support the CHILD(REN) NOT YOU ! NOT YOUR HABBITS ! NOT YOUR LIFESTYLE ! thats all on YOU..not them!
Now keep in mind, this thread is about this here exactly...how the system screw's the better parent....mostly men...bias? I so dont care! IT'S THE FACTS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT !
Just because the females can have kids, doesnt mean they are worthy of being a parent.
I like to race so let me use what I know best as an explaination.
ANYONE can go fast in a straight line...ANYONE...even my 80 yr old grandma'.....
It's not that you have skill to go fast...it's the car....it's all the car ! not you !
If you are going fast and have to turn sharply...and you dont have the skill required...you will FAIL !!!
Because it is no longer the cars' ability to proform...it's you....it's all you at this point....if you dont have what it takes to get the car around the turn, you will fail.
Same thing with the parenting skills.....
The female body was made to develope,carry,and deliver children.
Just because of the fact they can do that, DOES NOT ensure the ability for the female to RAISE,SUPPORT,and ensure the child has the best life possible....
It all boils down to the individual's ABILITY to be a PARENT !!!
If you do not have what it takes to be a parent...just admit it.
You shouldn't use the courts to minipulate money out of the more deserving and capable parent.
You kids are not the way to a free ride.....a better house...a new car....new clothes....or bragging rights!
You want these things....EARN THEM....stop using the system to screw people for your own gain.....it's sick,twisted,and just plain WRONG....
And the sad thing is....the courts know this...the entire system knows this...and over half of the judges and lawyers have also been dragged over the coals by a worthless person such as we speak of.
But yet they continue to screw the parent that would be able to do the things required to give the child(ren) the life they deserve. Why? He!! if I know...I'm guessing it's an "ideal" thing....see, when you admit to something like this,then the whole "ideal" that since the woman can pop the kid out makes her a better parent or nurturer(what ever,dont hold my spelling against me,I'm frek'n tired,because I work all the time to support TWO house holds)
so the woman is automaticly the better parent, simply gets shot to $hit, and then you have chaos and disorder because people's ideas will change and they will begin to question the roles of the sexs'.....
I dont know about the rest of you,but i'm sick and tired of supporting a tramp and her ways and being held by the law to do just that.
And to those threads I read that say,"well my dad staid and wouldnt let my mom take us so I dont know why everyone is saying it's not possible"....
True, sometimes it is possible for that to happen...but when the woman waits till you are out of town,or at work,or just not home, and runs off with them...or in the situation where the man is home and wont let her take them,and she calls the cops and tells stories of how you are holding them hostage and you have the door barrocaded and wont let anyone leave...it becomes quite IMPOSSIBLE.....so to those folks that say it's possible...I say to you..STFU!! HE GOT LUCKY!!!! and thats all there is to that! sure its' possible...but when you are dealing with a total worthless person that will stop at nothing to get what they want....you are just screw'd!
So once again, we are not here bitc*ing about money, not here bitc*ing about GOOD HONEST PEOPLE....
We are complaining about the court SUPPORTING the worthess trash of a "so called" parent.
And NOT acknowledging the fact that the better parent is getting screw'd and thus putting the kid(s) in one of the worst environment possible.
THATS WHAT WE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT!!!!!
So if your x is decent,hard working,and a responcible parent...just frekn' admit it and quit jack'n with them...and dont have the court's jack with them.
If your x is a no good piece of crap that TRUELY deserves to be drug across the coals..then by all means...rip them to shreds!!!!
I agree that a worthless father is a piece of trash and deserves to have their @ss handed to them...by all means.....
But if the problem lies in you....then you are what we hate,you are the prime example of why we hate the courts for helping people like you,and we HATE the fact that our KID(s) have to suffer because of YOU!!!!
So to all the females out there that think we are just condeming the whole female race...no..sorry...you arent paying attention.
So stop talking trash....you are quite irritating.....and annoying.....and are simply---idiots....
and more than likely, you are the type of person to use the courts to screw the father that really deserves to have his kids.
I love females...not all,but most...I know not everyone of them are out there to get what they can from people...there are honest , hard working, mature, adult females who want the same things as I do out there.
So I'm not here talking trash to do it....I am here giving my views on my situation and opinions of how the court system treats the good honest hard working MALE in todays world.
I'm not here talking about men needing to go get "fixed" cause we arent the ones broken...well,not all of us anyhow...because somewhere out there they will find the female that will stand beside them and be true and will raise a FAMILY----TOGETHER!!!!
So to those who say it's possible....i dont deny that it is...all i say is look at the numbers....
the frequency of times that the father gets custody of the child....sorry.let me rephrase...THE DESERVING father gets custody of the child opposed to the number of deserving fathers that get the kid(s) torn away from them.....
Then, once you run the numbers and do the math.....then , and only then, do you have the right to pop on this thread and attempt to say something different.
till then...all of you can stick it in your ear...cause thats just not the way the world works right now.
untill things change and everyone is willing to admit that just cause the female can pop the kid out doesnt make her a better parent.
And are willing to admit it's all about parental abillity....then things are not going to change and the men are going to continuasly get screw'd by the WORTHLESS females and the system.
So if you are not a WORTHLESS female and you have a WORTHLESS "x".....do what you got to do to get things done....I am FULLY on your side in the matter....
But if you ARE a WORTHLESS female and you are useing the system to do your dirty work.....
Do the world a favor...give your kid(s) to their father....then go hang yourself.
So make sure you know exactly what you are talking about before you decide to post a comment here......
We are complaining about the WORTHLESS female who uses the BIAS system we have to get what they want.....point blank!
We are NOT complaining about good honest mothers here!!!!
This is a group of GREAT GUYS that have been and are still being screw'd by the system that their x has attacked them with.
There are worthless people out there in every sex,color,religon,city,state,country,island...EVERYWHERE.......if you arent one of them,,then..shuuuuuush!
We arent talking about you...i dont know how to make this any clear'r here.....
If you dont understand it after reading this.....you should just go hang yourself....
thank you,please drive thru! | |
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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 3/1/2007 4:38:20 PM | Lets see here...options...
Stay married till your children are grown and work on your problems? No? hmmmmm*smiles*
I know it really is hard on anyone male or female who has to pay child support. I believe the amount you have to pay is based on a percentage of your income isnt it?
My ex only had to pay me 200.00 a month and all he did was piss and moan about it. So tell me.. what amount is going to make ya'll happy? Do you believe 200.00 a month even began to cover expenses? He also only had to pay on our child, even though he had raised my oldest boy since he was a baby, but I still had to support both boys. To be honest, I would of never taken a cent from him if I could of managed completely on my own. Once my son was older I gave him the money to go buy clothes and other things he needed, I never touched it. One year when he was 17 he wanted to go and live with his cousin and go to school there. I let him, and I sent him the whole amount from his father, plus I matched it myself. His father had the gall to say to him "That **** better be giving you that money" the one time he went to see his son in oh i would say it had been 3 yrs since he had last even called him???
The money does help, but guys and gals who do not have custody, please remember, your children still need you in their lives. That is what is important. My ex wouldnt even take his son over night. | |
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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 3/2/2007 10:49:58 AM | Amen Whyspr
Stay married till your children are grown and work on your problems? No? hmmmmm*smiles*.
I am in the process of getting divorced (not my choice) and currently the stbx and myself live about a mile apart in the same school district and each has our 3 boys ages 16,13 and 9 every other week. We pick them up every Sunday night basically 50-50 custody. Isn't this joint custody? The lawyer is looking at my last 2 years income compared to hers even though I work on commissions and my income can vary greatly. Well she leaves me the year I am making more money than I have ever in the past 2005 and then in 2006 my income is about 20% less due to all the crap this forced on me divorce has done to me. I.E
depression anger and abandonment. Then the fact that the kids are being moved every other week (I REALLY HATE THAT) My focus for work was really derailed and am still struggling. Anyway I really think the person who initiates a divorce if there is no cheating (even though I am pretty sure she did) ,Physical abuse or drugs etc. should be held more accountable because what this does to a loving husband and especially the kids. Any thoughts or comments are appreciated. | |
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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 3/2/2007 11:22:27 AM | Could not agree more with you Sotatex. If a spouse wants to leave, they must have the right to do so. But they should have to pay for their choice, especially when cheating is the cause. My ex makes way way more than the Texas max for calculating child support, currently $6000 monthly, and my daughter should benefit from his very high income. But he pays the min he can and there is nothing I can do to make him provide more. I sure do not need or want his money, but she does, most of all to buy time which is the one thing I am perpetually short of. There is a reason why it takes 2 to make a kid, it takes 2 to raise it as well!
I must be the only woman, or one of very few, to have gotten well and truly screwed by the legal system in Texas. I feel really sorry for the guyes who don't get to see their kids, get turfed out of their homes and are made to hand over large chunks of cash to their exs. But it makes me also really mad when those guyes make general statements about how good the women have it in divorce settlements.
The legal system pretending to care about the children is the biggest scam of all! So much for this being a free country! | |
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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 3/2/2007 2:32:06 PM | Soltatex--I am sorry but i disagree with the leaving spouse being held more accountable. I am the one that asked for the divorce from my stbx because after years of being neglected, feeling abandoned, and dealing with lack of or no affection i couldnt take it anymore.
For the last 5 years (out of 15 yr marriage) i begged him to work on these issues with me and he would say alright and then go back to same ole same ole.
Finally, when i asked for the divorce which ironically came as a shock to him (frankly i dont know how considering the man wouldnt even kiss/touch me for months at a time) his main concern was finances.
Namely, how much he thought he would lose in a divorce. His other concern is that because he was 43 he thought he would never find anyone else(yep he actually told me this). So he begged me to try again.
That is until he discovered that he could actually land a girl (20 years his junior), which he did 2 weeks after i asked him for the divorce and until i had agreed to not go after his dual retirements(2 companies) and some of his other investments. That's right i was being the diplomatic one by offering to forfeit half of our assets in order to keep the peace for the sake of our kids.
When assets and potential lack of getting his groove on were no longer an "issue", suddenly the "devastation" just seemed to dissappear and the whole divorce idea became much more appealing to him.
My conclusion? The man probably fell out of love with me yearrrs ago and the only reason he remained in this marriage is because he was afraid it would hit his pocket book or affect him below the belt. I can almost guarantee that as soon as our kids were grown, he would have eiher walked out on me or had an affair (btw he cheated on me early in our marriage when he was in his 20s, but being the idealistic and in love young woman that i was-- i gave him chances to redeem himself). Interestingly, he too saw himself as a "loving husband".
Frankly, i hope the 23 year old teenie bopper he's with has better luck with him, for her sake anyway. And despite the fact that she knew he was still married and living with me when she got involved with him, i still wish her well.
Summer--Holy ch*t you get upwards of 6K for one child and you think you got a raw deal?!!
Consider yourself very lucky summer. There are women that get a whole lot less for 2 kids--say 600 bucks a month. It doesn't cost 6K a month to support one child and despite how much money he makes, truth of the matter is, that if you two were still married he still wouldn't have 6k expenses for one child. That's probably the way the courts are looking at it. Would be nice though if he put money into a trust fund for her college. | |
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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 3/2/2007 3:09:00 PM | | Get this...I don't know what they do in your local court districts, but in mine they just started putting non-custodial parents (male/female) on probation for 10 yrs for being behind on child support. | |
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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 3/4/2007 10:57:18 AM | Infidelity isn't a basis for child support or custody schedule.
It's about "proving" you can provide a good situation for your children.
I think there may be some bias at the judge level. But in Texas, percentage-wise is almost 50-50 between mother and fathers and custody.
Financially, the person with the most ability to pay bills, gets them. That does suck, and is unfair, except to the lender, which is most happy they are getting paid. And in effect, you get a privatized welfare system. | |
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| Texas and the Judicial System.....SUX!!!!
Posted: 3/4/2007 1:16:00 PM |
Get this...I don't know what they do in your local court districts, but in mine they just started putting non-custodial parents (male/female) on probation for 10 yrs for being behind on child support.
Sassy,
I don't think that's anything new, and I think it's a state thing. My ex has been on probation since 2002/2003 when the state had to get involved because he was so far behind. Get this though, when he quite his job back in February of 2006 to follow his new bride to AIT for nine weeks, they couldn't do anything since he had crossed state lines. When he returned, I told them he was back in Texas. They claimed they never could find him, until all of a sudden, after he went back to work, I get copies of papers where he has a court date. It was scheduled for December of 2006, ten months after he had quit his job, about two months after he had gone back to work. Don't believe that online part that says you can request that a warrant for non-pay be withdrawn! I talked to so many different people that I've lost count, but I finally got a hold of one who agreed that it makes no sense to throw the NCP in jail once they're started paying again! Anyway, his court date is changed until August. He plans on asking to have the amount he pays lowered, since our son will be in college and he'll just be paying on the arrears. What he doesn't realize is that he's only paying about $4 a month on the arrears now, by the time they tack on interest! | |
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