funn1
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Joined: 1/8/2005
Msg: 51 | |
| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/29/2005 5:14:00 PM | | Is this for real? come on. Is this a big thing now, I thought churches with the exeption of a offshoot of the lds church ,teach this to be wrong and ungod like. | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/29/2005 5:25:55 PM | We're not sure what you are questioning, but if it's biblical polygyny you are referring to as questioning whether or not it's a big thing, you might want to do a dogpile websearch and just type in the words biblical polygyny and see what comes up.
As for the churches well there are a number of preachers who teach unbiblical things, hold easter egg hunts, put christmas trees up, follow sunday worship, etc.
We only personally know of a small handful of people who believe as we do here in the US but it seems to be a much larger practice in Europe and in Holland they have just passed laws that polygyny is ok and if you want to practice it you can do so freely.
Steve & Kara | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 5:03:16 PM | wierd, did everybody drop off the face of the map?
Steve & Kara | |
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funn1
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Joined: 1/8/2005
Msg: 55 | |
| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 5:13:25 PM | | Try a new thread, I cant speek for everyone but talking about if one should or could have more than one wife/husband is just not something I want to keep talking about. | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 5:14:32 PM | I look at it this way,
You asked how it could be wrong.
You got 3 pages of responses.
You asked for Bible quotes.
You recieved several.
All the responses and Bible quotes that didnt' agree with what it is you want to do, you argued with.
None of us are going to be part of your *marriages* so you don't have to convince us, sounds like you are trying to convince yourselves though.
No one here can give you absolution for what you what to do, I guess what it comes down to is according to your Bible, when judgement day comes, you will find out if you have the scriptures right or not...Then I guess there won't be a debate, you will be judged as your God sees fit.
What more is it you seek from this forum? | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 5:15:47 PM | Well said SFL....I still we were bank Trolled.. | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 6:31:01 PM | you wrote "I look at it this way,
You asked how it could be wrong.
You got 3 pages of responses.
You asked for Bible quotes.
You recieved several.
All the responses and Bible quotes that didnt' agree with what it is you want to do, you argued with.
None of us are going to be part of your *marriages* so you don't have to convince us, sounds like you are trying to convince yourselves though.
No one here can give you absolution for what you what to do, I guess what it comes down to is according to your Bible, when judgement day comes, you will find out if you have the scriptures right or not...Then I guess there won't be a debate, you will be judged as your God sees fit.
What more is it you seek from this forum? "
Those are interesting points, certainly we understood that none here would be willing to join our family, that wasn't why we posted this forum, I am sure you noticed that we never once e-mailed any ladies who posted wondering if they would be interested in joining our family, for us this is just a discussion.
We understand your viewpoint that we are trying to convince ourselves, and as you stated about arguing with responses and bible quotes we don't agree with let us tell you here and now, we certainly disagree with this viewpoint of us trying to convince ourselves. We are 100 % in agreement that this is what Yahweh is calling us to do. No need to convince ourselves of anything. You have a right to your viewpoint and so do we. If this is arguing then so be it. Debate can be a learning tool but on the flipside of that, we don't feel we disagreed and argued with everything that was said here, in fact there are other people who posted that we completely agreed with.
As for judgement day, we are not sure but the phrase according to "our" scriptures we will be judged about the interpretation of the scriptues. We read the King James Version of the scriptures, a pretty common translation that a number of "Christians" tout as being the truest translation of scriptures, and use on a regular basis. Now we will admit that we are not experts on the complete scriptures but it seems to us that judgement day is meant only to see who's name is written in the lambs book of life and who's is not. We are also judged for our works, but isn't that covered by the blood of the lamb? Which makes any decisions and works we do on this earth forgiven, therefore we believe that no one if they are born-again will be judged for how they interpreted the scriptures and lived their life here on this earth.
It has been an interesting forum discussion.
Steve & Kara | |
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funn1
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Joined: 1/8/2005
Msg: 59 | |
| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 6:33:35 PM |  What, what was that you say?
If you want to talk in other threads I am sure ppl will talk to you. | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 6:42:43 PM | | I will stand up for Sister on this one to say this is a sin or wrong is to say God Is a respecter of persons and that he limits freewill .The only thing you have quoted in scriptures are Man's opinion not Gods. Now being that it is against the law then it is wrong. We are to obey the law of the land. There are many Gays married in private ceremony all over the country. They are not recognised by the state but the people feel they are married maybe you could try this route. | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 6:44:51 PM | Point taken, we have posted a new thread.
Steve & Kara | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 6:46:36 PM |
"Animal sacrifice was fulfilled by the complete sacrifice of Yahshua for all sin. There is no need to sacrifice animals because He fulfilled the law of animal sacrifice."
Awwwwwwwww shucks! And I was gonna burn my mangy ol' tabby! | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 6:48:31 PM | Thank you for your support, we truly appreciate it, just as an FYI, Yahweh states that if the leaders of your country are passing laws that are against Yahweh's law that you don't have to follow it.
Steve & Kara
PS Naturally this would mean a lot of persocution from the legal community. Lol | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 9:27:54 PM | "Thank you for your support, we truly appreciate it, just as an FYI, Yahweh states that if the leaders of your country are passing laws that are against Yahweh's law that you don't have to follow it"
I can not remember the words exactly.........
But what ever is done on earth shall be in heaven.......
See you in hell....brothersisterneiceauntgrandmawife. | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 9:46:20 PM |
See you in hell....brothersisterneiceauntgrandmawife.
Isn't that a lovely "Christian" response?  | |
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Posted: 11/30/2005 9:48:11 PM | | y'all have to excuse him he's Baptist........... | |
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funn1
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Joined: 1/8/2005
Msg: 67 | |
| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 9:51:47 PM | Isn't that a lovely "Christian" response?
Don't put all Christians in one pile thank you. Just because some ppl say they are christian and then say something dumb or hurtful does not mean all Christians would do or say such things. | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 9:53:21 PM | | How about a "lovely Pagan" response, why is it we christians have to be so perfect. when the rest can do as they like.. | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 9:57:00 PM | There are only 3 religious truths
#1 Islamics do not recognize Jews as children of God
#2 Jews do not recognize Christ as the Messiah
#3 Baptist do not recognize each other in a liquor store | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 11/30/2005 10:05:26 PM | How about a "lovely Pagan" response, why is it we christians have to be so perfect. when the rest can do as they like..
He is the one who identifies himself as Baptist, a Christian denomination the last time I checked.
I dunno, I foolishly expect Christians to follow the teachings of Jesus - stuff like "judge not, lest ye be judged," and "love thy neighbor as thyself," and " let him who is without sin cast the first stone." | |
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Posted: 12/1/2005 8:40:30 PM | | So........I am a baptist with heathenistic tendencies! | |
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Posted: 12/1/2005 8:42:48 PM | I dunno, I foolishly expect Christians to follow the teachings of Jesus - stuff like "judge not, lest ye be judged," and "love thy neighbor as thyself," and " let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
We agree with you, the problem is that we are still sinful beings, being made perfect, this can take a while especially if it is impossible to recognize that you are a sinner. That is why salvation is a lifelong commitment and the perfecting of it can take your whole life with the help of Ruach Ha Chodesh (Holy Spirit)
Steve & Kara | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 12/1/2005 8:55:42 PM | Ruach Ha Chodesh
direct translation if you will please...
The learning vesselof coming to be Him. Personal thought on this.
Yes it is a spiritual level we get out and do his will and learn from what we give and taken. The difficult part is the happy part for many. This stillneeds learning within the entire life is learning within Him. | |
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Posted: 12/1/2005 9:17:05 PM | We agree, it is difficult but so happy knowing that we are following His will and learning and growing and having the joy that only He can bring.
Steve & Kara | |
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| Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 12/2/2005 12:29:05 PM | Steve & kara
I admit I didn't read through the lot of this thread but I have read quite a few of the posts.
I was watching a documentary on tv a while back about polygamy. They did very well in showing both view points. Two polygamist families where the sister wives were explaining the difficulties and the possitive aspects to it and how the whole bedroom situation works in their homes etc. The children in these families were advocating the lifestyle choice and how they wanted to have that lifestyle for themselves.
What concerned me was the adults who were claiming some pretty unpleasant happenings in their childhoods in these types of environments. Now I realize every family has problems, and that some people regardless of how many wives/husbands they have will do terrible things to their children......
I don't think there's anything wrong with it per se as long as those things are not happening to the children. I think that as long as all parties are consentual and understand the concept then fine, why not....
I have to say, I could never do it. I have a hard enough time sharing my man with his mother! | |
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