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 seriouslyfunnylady

Joined: 5/10/2005
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Posted: 12/20/2005 6:05:57 PM
psssssssssssssst never....I think this is a new name on an old poster...don't continue the fight that's what they are looking for
 NeverCaNezzer

Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 127
Biblical Polygyny
Posted: 12/20/2005 6:07:57 PM
Serious...I think you are right..but the points I've made are relevant...
 seriouslyfunnylady

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Posted: 12/20/2005 6:09:49 PM
I would e-mail you to continue this discussion, but your restrictions won't let me.
 seriouslyfunnylady

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Posted: 12/20/2005 6:31:18 PM
calm down man, no need to yell, your liable to end up with your posts being deleted for anoying posting style.
 seriouslyfunnylady

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Posted: 12/20/2005 6:43:15 PM
Cracking up here, I don't have the authority to delete your posts, it was just a friendly warning that you are breaking forum rules, which could get your posts deleted.

Excessive use of capitol letters is considered annoying posting style. It is also considered yelling.

Please read the forum rules.
 NeverCaNezzer

Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 131
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Posted: 12/20/2005 6:48:29 PM
So where are you from sir ? PAW * CITY ?, living next door to Grod I'll bet....this is hilarious...

BY the way we are discussing POLYGYNY not POLYGAMY...you need to get your facts STRAIGHT at least the other bigamist had his act together...
 sister_wife2005

Joined: 11/22/2005
Msg: 132
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Posted: 12/20/2005 7:31:03 PM
Just to interject a little peace in the group, we have had this thread for some time, Paw, we understand that this is a sticky point with you. Before this get's completely out of hand we would ask that you respect the rules of the moderators. Much truth has been gleaned from this thread and we respectfully ask that you quit using the capitols except at the beginning of sentences. We truly would like to keep this thread open but if it begins to break down into such as we see going on then we personally will ask the moderators to close the whole thread and then no one will be able to post.
Please out of respect for the original poster, ourselves, we would ask that you refrain from open attacks and using all capitol letters.
Thanks, we do appreciate your help in this matter.

Shalom,
Steve & Kara
 SweetTreat

Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 133
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Posted: 12/20/2005 7:50:58 PM

LOOK WHO STARTS MENTIONING BEING ANOYED

WHO STARTS MENIONING YELLING

SEE HOW THESE DENOMINATIONAL DAUGHTERS OF MAMA ROME BEHAVE


Violation of forum rules, please refrain from using caps.
 seriouslyfunnylady

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Posted: 12/20/2005 7:51:23 PM
ok, someone explain the difference to me.

Polygyny.....polygamy
 NeverCaNezzer

Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 135
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Posted: 12/20/2005 7:56:15 PM

Polygyny.....golygamy


golymammy...

gyny is where the the guys get the gals and not vice (haha) versa

gamy is both can have as many spouses as they want vice vica (hehe)

 sister_wife2005

Joined: 11/22/2005
Msg: 136
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Posted: 12/20/2005 7:58:27 PM

ok, someone explain the difference to me.

Polygyny.....polygamy


Here is Websters definition of polygamy :polygamy
One entry found for polygamy.


Main Entry: po·lyg·a·my
Pronunciation: -mE
Function: noun
1 : marriage in which a spouse of either sex may have more than one mate at the same time

and here is the definition of polygyny : polygyny
One entry found for polygyny.


Main Entry: po·lyg·y·ny
Pronunciation: -nE
Function: noun
: the state or practice of having more than one wife or female mate at one time --

yep there is a definite different meaning between the two.

Steve & Kara
 seriouslyfunnylady

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Posted: 12/20/2005 7:59:10 PM
I sooooooo hate typos.....lol
 NeverCaNezzer

Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 138
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Posted: 12/20/2005 8:23:21 PM
Mr CAPS LOCK, what I was implying that if Leinad55 wanted to misuse the Church as a symbol of the Bride, ie there are lots of women in there that he could marry, then he could use that as an argument for marrying a guy. The Bride is singular and in that context he can't use it as a justification for marrying more than one woman..

Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
 NeverCaNezzer

Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 139
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Posted: 12/20/2005 10:39:57 PM
AWW * PAW, did you go to all that trouble to prove there are no gays in the church??? Could you re-doo it as it does not make a lot of sense...
 NeverCaNezzer

Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 140
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Posted: 12/20/2005 10:49:40 PM
Ever wonder why Jesus spoke in parables and metaphors???
 NeverCaNezzer

Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 141
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Posted: 12/20/2005 11:29:04 PM
WHEN DID JESUS SPEAK

you quoted him with the Virgins parable notice how he uses the term "likened", its usually means he is not speaking reality, but using the message to get a point over..which is obviously lost on you..

Mat 13:13 K Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
 Leinad55

Joined: 8/27/2005
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Posted: 12/21/2005 9:59:09 AM
It's interesting, to see the correction of the difference between gyny and gamy, while at the same time referring to me as a "bigamist". A bigamist is someone who has a marriage license with two or more wives at the same time, legally.
Since I don't participate in Gov. regulated marriage, then Bigamy would be something that couldn't apply to me.
So really, paw's statement was applicable, because polyGAMY can be applied to a male having more than one female, or a female with more than one male.. Either way is applicable, depending on the context of the discussion. But what was not applicable, is the word bigAMY, because there are no Bigamists in here, and if there were, no one would admit to it, because they would go to jail. Bigamy is Illegal, but polygamy is not, and polygyny, and polyandry is not. People are doing it all over the place, by the millions, both andry and gyny.

The 10 virgins parable is a good "contemporary"(www.dictionary.com) example where there was a parable/story told to a group of people who could better understand a spiritual concept, by paralelling it with a natural physical example. The reason it was such a good example for those being told this parable, is because that was considered to be quite "normal" and appropriate and customary, and appealed to the base understanding of the listeners who were from a Hebrew patriarchial polygynous background.
Just like the story of the prodigal son. That story was an example of a common occurance that the people could "RELATE" to, because everyone probably knew of, or knew someone who knew someone else who's son did a similar thing. The stories Jesus would tell, were associated with things that his "target" audience would be able to identify with and understand more intimately.
The story of a husband with ten wives, was quite a powerful imagery to them, because that would mean a true reversion back to their original social structure, and ability to have large families again and be raised out of slavery and out bondage to an enemy Gov.
It might be similar to a native american "messiah" figure, coming to all the tribes here in the US, and giving them parables of the ten buffalo who were hunted by the brave, but he only caught 5.
He would be using an example that takes them back to the roots and basic fundamentals of their ideal culture and ideas.
Jesus Didn't use such an example dealing with animals, because He would not have been able to get His idea across as effectively. He was in fact using an example of marriage which was in opposition to the whole mentality of the Roman culture, which was monogamous.
If He had wanted to fit in with the romans and their monogamous culture, then he would have indeed used the example of one husband with two women and he would be ending up with one of them.
He said 10, because then there is no way to get around the fact that he is talking about a plural marriage. He wanted to make that very clear. That story appealed to the masses, because it was "a little piece of home" to them, and fit right in with their ideas of how family life ought to be, and also showed that He was identifying with them, in opposition to the Roman monogamy system.
Why else would the Jews and early (true) Christians be persecuted for practicing plural marraige, until Catholicism finally stamped it out after a few cenruries AD?
Questions, comments, concerns, complaints, recommendations....
TePeSt
 sister_wife2005

Joined: 11/22/2005
Msg: 143
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:09:29 PM

I sooooooo hate typos.....lol


been there done that, usually when I am tired.

Kara
 sister_wife2005

Joined: 11/22/2005
Msg: 144
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:20:33 PM

Why else would the Jews and early (true) Christians be persecuted for practicing plural marraige, until Catholicism finally stamped it out after a few cenruries AD?


This is our thinking exactly, what the world deems as wrong surely must be right according to scriptures.

Steve & Kara
 seriouslyfunnylady

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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:25:06 PM
Steve and Kara,

I am going to be honest, I have gone out and looked on the web, I have looked at the pros and cons.

I think that most things can be justified, if you find the correct bible verses. Ultimatly as long as you are not forcing minors into the situation and it is done with everyone's consent. Then no justification is needed.

If you are wrong, according to your belief system, then you will suffer the ultimate price.

If you are right, again according to your belief system, then you were one step ahead of everyone that didn't agree with you.

You and only you along with the people that join into your union, will either pay the price or reap the benefits.
 sister_wife2005

Joined: 11/22/2005
Msg: 146
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:29:41 PM

You and only you along with the people that join into your union, will either pay the price or reap the benefits.


You are very correct in that, the difficulty lies in that in this world clearly the price can be too much and exacted by people who feel it is wrong, on this earth rather than leaving it up to Yahweh where it should be left.

Steve & Kara
 seriouslyfunnylady

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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:34:01 PM
We all live by rules and regulations.

In my belief system worshiping *skyclad* is a good thing. I live in a mobile home park, can you imagine what would happen if I was out in my yard on a full moon, nakid, doing a ritual?

We all have to conform to societys laws on morality. Or pay the price if caught
 sister_wife2005

Joined: 11/22/2005
Msg: 148
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Posted: 12/22/2005 8:30:57 AM

can you imagine what would happen if I was out in my yard on a full moon, nakid, doing a ritual?


lol, well some might find it to be very interesting.

Steve & Kara
 SOLLOMON

Joined: 12/22/2005
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Posted: 12/22/2005 4:16:13 PM
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very cool

The story of a husband with ten wives, was quite a powerful imagery to them, because that would mean a true reversion back to their original social structure,

and ability to have large families again and be raised out of slavery and out bondage to an enemy Gov.

so i see i was looking at the posts you sure seem to have the bible down thats for sure.

i think you are the only one i have seen so far that Goes to GODS WORD to line yourself up with HIS word instead of trying to line the bible up with you....

to cater some vague opinion.


I have read it almost 5 times front to cover KNOWLEDGE is just knowledge
. true but if we dont beleive it
there are no absolutes
 NeverCaNezzer

Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 150
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Posted: 12/22/2005 4:18:11 PM
Hey PAW *REX back under a new name are we???
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