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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 9:31:39 AM | Oh, my! Calm down, boys and girls. Auntie Kloey stepped away for a brief spell, but I'm back for the moment. So, I'm going to assume that the same arguments are on the table, as I don't wish to read the last twenty or so pages that I've missed. Anyone keeping up? If so, give me the shake down, if you don't mind. Auntie Kloey will then begin to wade through it all in an effort to gain and give understanding.
I assume that nice guys are still saying that they're nice and thus the basis of their appeal while women are still saying that they've recieved boo-boos at the hands of a so-called nice guy. My position remains that each individual is responsible for the life they lead, be it good or bad. Conditioning is a sad but true part of dating/romance. If you demand respect, respect will be given. If you allow folks to walk all over you, folks will walk all over you. You are the deciding factor in your life, despite the cards dealt. | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 9:38:45 AM | HEY!!! I like to spoil the man too.. and I pay for dinners and I say things like.. lets do lunch.. or lets have coffee.. the problem here is that most of the men here drink so much their internal organs will never decompose... and I dont want that... had I known what this area had to offer I would have thought twice about coming but Im here now...
Just sayin... | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 10:15:13 AM | Hey Cougar.....I'm with u.....i like to read profiles and do send emails to men and just say "hey u have a great smile"....and get nothing.....or u send few emails back and forth....then nothing.....frustrating as heck! If everyone would just "smile"!! No one is perfect on the dating ring or why would any of us be here right? I consider myself to be a "nice girl" .....not sure if I look for anything as specific as a "nice guy" theres either a connection or not...simple...dating should be fun people!
If you find a partner in the process, thats a bonus....i dont believe in Mr and Mrs right.....cause hey lets face it.....nothing lasts forever....but if we find that one person, for even a little while that can give us that feeling we all desire....enjoy it...cause it is hard to find!!
Where's the luv between us men and women!! keeep on smilinnnnnnnn!! XXOO
Carol
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 10:16:13 AM | You are wrong! Nice guys don't have to say they are nice> We just are and we wouldn't take the time to get involved with psychologically dependent women. Nice..doesn't mean dumb, ok? Been there, done that, got the t-shirt and the divorce too! I'm nice and smart. | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 12:00:44 PM | Men will always feel like they are unappreciated and women will always turn their eyes from the ones who seem weak.
We didn't need fifty pages of spiking, whining, cursing, flaming, baiting to figure that out.
It isn't that women don't want a man who will treat them well. They just don't want a guy who needs constant reassurance.
YES...this IS hypocrisy as the women themselves want constant reassurance but that is hardly the point of the thread is it.
We will have to start a different fifty page thread to get to that point, won't we?
I don't know what or where this person is reading, getting reviews or getting their material from, but, I saw some very good comments and great rebuttals. Didn't see the fifty pages of whinning etc. Maybe I am not looking through tear stained eyes. Wait a minute let me put my depressed face on. OH! OKAY! There it is! I See through your eyes now. Godda hand it to you, once you put on rose glasses everyone is red. And this stereotyping stuff, "Men will always feel like they are undeappreicated..." Is DEFINATELY an optimistic point of view isn't it? I will just go kill my unappreciated arse right now I will. | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 12:06:04 PM | | I am not going to say I am a nice guy since that word hardly describes the kind of person I am. Nice is not the best word to describe anyone. You might say "wow that is a nice sunset or painting", but to describe a human being who has his/her own personality as just plain nice will not help too much these days. Of course if a girls parents want to tell thier daughter they are in agreement with her choice of date, they could say "that is a nice man". | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 12:48:55 PM |
I don't know what or where this person is reading, getting reviews or getting their material from, but, I saw some very good comments and great rebuttals. Didn't see the fifty pages of whinning etc. Maybe I am not looking through tear stained eyes. Wait a minute let me put my depressed face on. OH! OKAY! There it is! I See through your eyes now. Godda hand it to you, once you put on rose glasses everyone is red. And this stereotyping stuff, "Men will always feel like they are undeappreicated..." Is DEFINATELY an optimistic point of view isn't it? I will just go kill my unappreciated a*** right now I will. - popsicleman
Other people have called this thread The Whining Olympics, and not without cause. If self-pity were masturbation, this entire thread would be covered in spooge. | |
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Joined: 11/21/2004
Msg: 1234 | |
| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 1:00:26 PM | Hey, we are all nice guys, even an @SS holes thinks he is a nice guy, unfortunately we aren't all nice guys. With this, for Women and Men, you've got to be careful, except as for guys they really don't have to worry about protecting themselves, but women do, so guys will set a date and meet up, but if they don't like you, no second date, but for ladies, they've got to try and weigh your head, and distinguish you from the psychos out there.
Sucks if you are a nice guy, but it's the one bad apple that spoils the whole bunch, so fellas, be understanding, stop whinning, and if you can't get a girl, either you are boaring, they aren't feeling you, or you're an @SS and you just don't know it. and that goes BOTH WAYS. Besides, no one wants a whinning, emotinal dependant other, people want confident and positive lovers.
And if you've got turned down, it's the other persons right to reject you, IT IS THERE CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know how it feels, I've been rejected tons of times, but I've also turned down a few peopl (a very few). So suck it up, this is the internet, not the streets, the only way to judge you is the little e-mail we exchange, and THAT's ALL, so if you get turned down, suck it up, cry (they can't see you) and come back even more lively. | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 1:24:23 PM | Poorgie,
I had posted a reply (msg #1214) to your msg #1208, and once again you have not replied. Your typical habit of not responding to women that do have comments about what you say can cause on to wonder whether you really do want a woman in your life as a partner, or just an object. I do hope that you are kind enough to respond to women in email, but by what is seen here it doesn't seem likely.
A response or at least an indication that you read it would be a considerate thing for a man to do. This is not the first time I have mentioned the avoidance that you show toward women.
@Molonel.... .... the thread would be well coated | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 2:32:17 PM |
Other people have called this thread The Whining Olympics, and not without cause. If self-pity were masturbation, this entire thread would be covered in spooge.
sounds like a promising career in psychology. or porn. one. | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 2:46:00 PM | ..I never ask why a girl doesn't want me..and I am a nice guy,better than being a jerk looking for a one night stand. ..I mean if she can't appreciate me for who I am. I don't want to waste my time and effort on that kind of woman.....guys you should be able to tell if she is interested in you by chatting with her,do you feel any sparks at all or is it just a meaningless casual conversation that she found totally boring and unattractive. Girls when you come across someone you are not interested in knowing the least in, please tell these poor dudes, right away instesd of getting your "kicks' from it to boost your "ego". Of course I am only refering to some of the women, so you can restrain from any knife throwing.  | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 3:31:30 PM |
Molonel, has anyone had a break through yet? - kloey
We've had one personality switch as someone deleted a profile, and registered under a different name, and then complained when people recognized his picture.
But, to the best of my knowledge, nobody has gotten "it" yet, despite many women spelling "it" out in plain, simple English. | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 4:47:48 PM | There are no jail cells for men whiners yet. I have listed some worse things guys can do besides whine and I still say it is better to whine instead of hijacking an airplane or drinking and then operating machinery or doing drugs. Is whining a good example for any children they may have in the future? Well we will have to wait and see. The good thing about being a man in a family structure is most times they have no need to whine since they are the head of the household most times.
Some people on this forum have tried and tried again to make me fit into a nice guy mold they think is evil and I have even felt the need to back everything up. Did they reply to my evidence and explanations? I think not... not one apology. That to me is not too nice for people to act so my comment about nice celebrities is right on the mark. | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 5:09:42 PM | And then there is poorgie, whose "evidence" was discredited what, ten pages ago? And he still keeps muttering on and on about how nobody has addressed it, and it's better to be a whiner than a terrorist.
The sun will rise. The sun will set. And this thread will go and on forever.
Amen. | |
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Joined: 2/1/2006
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 5:17:51 PM | I can see that this is one of those topics that can go on forever.
Men are right! There are alot of women out there that say one thing and go after another.
Women are right! For there are alot of men out there that do the same thing as well.
However I must say that alot of men get a Bum wrap. Dating in this day and age is tough enough with out having to deal with women who want to be treat one way then the very next second another. You can't tell a guy you want to be treated like a lady then pick him apart if he opens a door for you or asks if he can choose the wine for dinner.
Four scores and many years ago.. We women enjoyed gentlemen!
Now i know I am going to be bashed for saying this but Oh well.. Women lib was to help women have a say in there lives and be an active part of society. Not to be ****y and expect people to read minds.. I hapen to be a hell of a nice lady and I know what it feels like to get Now stero type that alot of women have helped create.
Red... alright let me have it women everywhere..lol | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 5:19:23 PM |
And then there is poorgie, whose "evidence" was discredited what, ten pages ago?
But if it was addressed 10 pages ago by a woman he probably would not have acknowledged it.
"and this thread will go and on forever", can we only hope, some of the best sarcastic/humor comments have been in this thread...lol | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 5:31:30 PM | I want to stand out against the girls here. I fall in the nice guys are right catogory.
I have a very dear and personal friend who is the most kind, caring fun and wity man I have met in my life so far. He is wonderfull and siply having him around makes the day worth while.
Saddly I am not phisicaly atracted to him, (I have a thing for tall men with long black hair.) but he is not ugly. I would rate him a 6 or 7, just above average.
He has hundreds of female friends just like me, but as soon as they get to know him, they treasure him to much as a friend to risk loosing him by having sex with him.
I have seen girls chat him up in pubs and clubs, and he gets no: But he ends up getting nothing. At 25 he is still a virgin for the sole reason that he is nice. It confusses me, when a girl walks up to him in a pub because they are atracted to him, then they chat to him for just a few minutes and get on so well that all thoughts of sex go out the window.
So can some other woman out there tell me why, if he is so sweet and I keep haring from all my gorlfriends that they want to meet a nice man for a change, when I introduce them to him, they seem to change thier minds and suddenly only want a nice male friend and realy want a bad boy for sex and romance?
And you sweet guys out there, we may be few and far between, but there are girls looing for kind and carring Mr. Sensative. Don't lose faith. One day I will find you! | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 5:52:53 PM | | Okay big daddy molonel.... But please, no chat in a forum and prove me wrong at least with regards to the subject at hand. It is all about bad being good and good being bad these days. Most times if a person is too goody two shoes women will sence that and will feel it is a weak trait to have which it is not. | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 9:20:46 PM |
I have seen girls chat him up in pubs and clubs, and he gets no: But he ends up getting nothing. At 25 he is still a virgin for the sole reason that he is nice. It confusses me, when a girl walks up to him in a pub because they are atracted to him, then they chat to him for just a few minutes and get on so well that all thoughts of sex go out the window.
I can explain that. It's not that their thoughts of sex go out the window, it's just that he's not sexing them. He's the one who has to escalate things with these girls. Take it to the next level.
Come on, out of "hundreds" of these female friends, there isn't one he could have sex with if he put the moves on her? Get real. It's not them, it's him.
Since he can approach and talk to women, and knows a lot of them, my hunch says: repressed homosexual. | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/3/2006 10:18:50 PM | Your typical habit of not responding to women... -Little Lady
Not only does he not respond, but he changes the subject (whether you're man or woman). You ask him a question and he starts out by saying you're wrong, and then goes on to state a point completely irrelevant to what you have asked him.
Maybe he only has some "good manners". Mo matter how otherwise well mannered or how great of a 3 step programme one has developed, this type of behaviour sets off signals in a woman's (and man's if a woman was exhibiting this behaviour) mind that this person has something to hide, or that their conviction is not all that strong in the first place.
I'm just interested to see what he's going to say to this. I'll probably end up receiving a revised 3 step programme, which now includes 2 more steps. | |
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| Will all the nice guys stop asking why we dont want them!
Posted: 2/4/2006 12:28:36 AM |
I can explain that. It's not that their thoughts of sex go out the window, it's just that he's not sexing them. He's the one who has to escalate things with these girls. Take it to the next level.
Come on, out of "hundreds" of these female friends, there isn't one he could have sex with if he put the moves on her? Get real. It's not them, it's him.
Since he can approach and talk to women, and knows a lot of them, my hunch says: repressed homosexual.
Huh? he is a repressed homosexual because he can talk to women, knows about them and doesn't get laid or pick up? Interesting assumption. Not all women I have found think sexually about a guy they may be attracted to. Everyone is different and so why would you think he is a repressed homosexual just for not getting the girls that approach him and what not?
I have many times experienced that women like those "challenges" and if they can get to know you quick they get bored fast. So like i said each person is different. I am the first to say I never have had a one night stand in my life. I have met tons of women and never had gone home with one and they usually do not find me sexually attractive. Not a bad thing at all. Mind you I wouldn't have minded it once  | |
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