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EC22
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Joined: 4/25/2007
Msg: 326 | |
| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/19/2007 7:15:24 AM |
It is easy to check the ratios.. click on "search" on the top of the screen. Then click on "Basic Search" .... you will need to used a range of only one years otherwise you will get more the 600 match... do it for "Male looking for Women" and then repeat reversing it.
I did it for Calgary .. 25 miles .. and just totaled the numbers.. Yes the ratio is 3 male profiles for each women profile ... but around 30 percent of male profiles said "Intimate Encounters' i guess about 20 percent lie and are also looking for IE but put down friend, dating and long term.... so the ratio of men per women is about 1.5 to 1
Not every women here is looking for a serious relationship either. Some are here for the forums. Some are looking for a casual fling, but are less upfont about it. If a woman put her profile under casual encounters, she might get 50 emails a day. Some women are just "checking out the scene" or do this as an ego boost. There are also some women that are looking for cyberfriends or just someone to hang out with. For every 3 men here not looking for a serious relationship, there could be 1 women that isn't looking for a serious relationship as well. The ratio for younger age groups if usually higher than the overall ratio. If the overall ratio is 3 to 1, the ratio for people under 35 or 40 could be 4 or 1. The ratio tends to be smaller after 40. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/19/2007 9:33:18 AM |
Not every women here is looking for a serious relationship either. Some are here for the forums. Some are looking for a casual fling, but are less upfont about it. If a woman put her profile under casual encounters, she might get 50 emails a day. Some women are just "checking out the scene" or do this as an ego boost. There are also some women that are looking for cyberfriends or just someone to hang out with. For every 3 men here not looking for a serious relationship, there could be 1 women that isn't looking for a serious relationship as well. The ratio for younger age groups if usually higher than the overall ratio. If the overall ratio is 3 to 1, the ratio for people under 35 or 40 could be 4 or 1. The ratio tends to be smaller after 40.
You are not getting my point....
MOST women are NOT looking for intimate encounters and some state in their profiles "If you are looking for a one-nighter, FWB, boot call ... then just move on"
When i stated for calgary about 1.5 men per women .. i included all relationship type that men and women were seeking except for intimate encounter.
The Big fish who owns and runs this site has the REAL numbers .... and states it is about 1.5 men per women..... | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/19/2007 9:54:35 AM | Eborys,
Your anger, whining and generalization of women is VERY unappealing. If you hate online dating so much, turn off your computer, get up from your comfy egonomically-correct chair and be brave enough to enter into the "real" world. Suck it up, buddy. Your attitude will turn off people (not just women) anywhere. Best of luck to you! | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/19/2007 11:04:49 AM |
Eborys,
Your anger, whining and generalization of women is VERY unappealing. If you hate online dating so much, turn off your computer, get up from your comfy egonomically-correct chair and be brave enough to enter into the "real" world. Suck it up, buddy. Your attitude will turn off people (not just women) anywhere. Best of luck to you!
The OP (Eborys) has already deleted his profile ... not sure when ... but looks like quite a while ... | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/19/2007 2:32:39 PM |
It is deplorable how much it sucks for guys on dating sites for many reasons.
 I must be in a minority then 'cause I've been on many sites and only need half my other hand to count how many dates I actually been on and only one hand to count how many times I've actually gotten a message/wink. I have sent several messages/countless winks only to get nothing, not even a passing glance. Recently some guy did send a wink but I turned him down since he really should be dating my widowed mom!
Anyway, you are going to have to keep casting the net-plenty of birds out there just going to have to be patient for the right one.
*currently listening to the Zombies "She's not there" awesome song!* | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/19/2007 2:52:38 PM | | I think alot just comes down to persistence. But I totally agree with you with the behavior of women in general when it comes to dating, they really don't seem to appreciate it when a guy shows interest in them. Thats just the way it is. Just keep trying to initiate contact and take the next step. If she has an attitude about it or seems disinterested move onto the next one. There's plenty of fish in the sea. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/19/2007 5:38:03 PM | | Yea guys have it hard but imagine being a women having to sort through 100s of emails from perverted, married, lying dogs who just want to open your legs, drop a load and leave. I get at least 5 emails everyday of men traveling through my area looking for a screw buddy while away on business, and this is no exaggeration. It isn't easy being a women putting up with tons of men treating you as if your a whore. my profile made no mention to sex, my breasts were not hanging out and I didn't have sex partner clicked but yet a lot of men still feel the desire to try. Then there are the guys who seem good, have a great conversation for about 15, 20 Min's and you think wow, finally one that is not a dog, then he says...you have any boob shots lol. Screws it all to he11. men have it hard on here due to the reputation men have from a TON of bad men, women have it just as hard being put down by those bad men, imagine someone implying your a whore every single day for months on end, tell me it wouldn't get to you after a while? lol Its equal, online dating sucks for both men and women but yet we still do it lol. Good luck, hope you find what your looking for. Your profile seems fine, not sure why you had any issue btw. maybe your emailing the wrong kind of women? Do you go after the exotic model type who is on 200 guys favorites? If so compare yourself to the models on here the date them lol. Shallow world I know, but true. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/19/2007 7:06:16 PM | | A free meal I, as I am sure can many women pay their own way. I am not looking for man to take care of me, I am looking for a man to be my partner and complete my life. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/19/2007 7:26:42 PM | | maybe ur not emailing the right girls r maybe most girls u r emailing thinks ur to much for them.if so many women look at u when u walk by maybe thats the women u need show interest in. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 3:35:45 AM | Sometime us guys can be a bit brain dead, fail to see the opportunity in everything.
The internet is the biggest learning tool. Just by reading profiles of what women look for, guys have a lot more information to use to go out into the real world and make things happen.
Internet dating does not really suck for guys, it is a treasure chest of knowledge and understanding that can be used out in the real world.
With the amount of information and experiences alone in this website, guys should not be complaining how crap their experience is online. Learn what you need to, switch off the computer and get out there. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 4:00:29 AM | That's not true. You would be surprised how few responses we get. The ones we get are from the the men who drink, smoke, run around on their wives and all the things we are not looking for. Don't ever assume that good looking women are getting msg. It's not true. There are some forums that discuss this problem. The bulk of my msgs are from YOUNG men age 19-26! And yes, being they are the majority, I do consider age 26 and up. They are vibrant, fun, and adventurous young men, and as a young woman, I never had a chance to enjoy life, and they offer this opportunity.
Older men seem to just want someone to take care of them, feed them, fulfill their sexual needs, and not too much more. They may go places to pacify me the first few dates, but after that there is always an excuse. Sadly, there doesn't seem to be many older men who enjoy all the outdoor (or some indoor) activities that I crave. The saying goes "don't ever assume - you make an ass out of u and me" | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 4:23:47 AM | | Trust me, it sucks for women too.......I don't sit around and wait for a man to contact me, I contact them if I like what I read.........and often don't get replies back.....seems to me a lot of men are looking for young, blonde eye candy on these sites.....no matter their age.......I also get a lot of hits from men looking for "discreet" encounters...since my profile says "dating", I resent these two timers contacting me....I've gotten tons of emails, I read them all, and reply back one way or the other...I like to treat people the way I want to be treated...I've gotten some nasty replies from men who've contacted me when I tell them I'm not interested.....not necessary.....as for looks, don't lump all women into the same group..we are not all just interested in looks, or how much money you make......there's a lot of bitterness in your post........perhaps that comes across in your profile or your emails........work on that a bit, I'm sure you'll meet someone......after all, there is someone out there for everyone, it just takes time to find the right one.........it just plain isn't true that it doesn't suck for women on these sites, because it does...we have to play detective, make sure you're just not looking to get laid (which in my experience, is exactly what most of the men on these sites are looking for)........It would be real nice also if men took the time to read our profiles, and not just contact us based on OUR looks.....I can tell in a heartbeat from an email if a man has read my profile.....and I will admit, if it's obvious you haven't read my profile, I will let you know that I have one, and to read it first, then contact me if still interested. So that's my rant..... | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 6:01:04 AM | I completly disagree that it is the "job" of one sex or the other to do certain things, ie; It is men's job to do the initial contacting. I have been contacted by as many women as I have myself made initial contact with. Only 15 emails? That is NOT pathetic. That's very close to the range I have sent, and received replies from. As for the entire BS of must be good looking? Puh-lease. That is not one of my stronger traits. Feel free to look at my pics, I'm a pretty typical bald fat man of 44. What is indeed my strength is that I have a profile that not only tells women what they want to hear, but is excruciatingly honest without being pathetic.
If you want to attract the opposite sex, make yourself more emotionally appealing. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 6:56:59 AM | nutty-pooh-bear.
I've just changed my profile, due to a review.
But now that I've seen yours, I'm wondering if I ought to do it again.
I'll tell the reviewer and her mate to check yours out and see what they think.
SHADOSTAR, 100's, really?
I'll stick to the forums, but is it really worth me even trying to email potential partners?
I don't even read that many emails!
I could just keep getting deleted.
Let me know what you think. Lol | |
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kenp3
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Joined: 4/21/2007
Msg: 341 | |
| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 8:46:01 AM | | This site is like a kid in a candy store mentality . Women who've had little attention from their marriage suddenly get it here, it may be an eye opener for them to actually realize that they are wanted by others and they seem to be reluctant to see one person only. Does anyone know the actual ratio between men and women on this site? | |
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EC22
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Joined: 4/25/2007
Msg: 342 | |
| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 11:29:49 AM |
You are not getting my point....
When i stated for calgary about 1.5 men per women .. i included all relationship type that men and women were seeking except for intimate encounter.
The Big fish who owns and runs this site has the REAL numbers .... and states it is about 1.5 men per women.....
My point is this. Just because a woman isn't looking for an intimate encounter, it doesn't mean that she is looking for a serious date. I listed some reasons that a woman could be on this site besides initimate encounters and serious dating. I don't think that removing the IE profiles always gives an accurate ratio of men/women looking for a serious date.
MOST women are NOT looking for intimate encounters and some state in their profiles "If you are looking for a one-nighter, FWB, boot call ... then just move on"
Many women aren't looking for IE, but some might be. Some women will say that aren't looking for a FWB or casual fling, but they end up having a FWB or a casual fling. Some women lie about their age, weight etc. They could also lie about their true intentions. Maybe they don't want men to think that they are easy. I personally know some women who are like this. | |
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EC22
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Joined: 4/25/2007
Msg: 343 | |
| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 12:14:52 PM |
My point is this. Just because a woman isn't looking for an intimate encounter, it doesn't mean that she is looking for a serious date. I listed some reasons that a woman could be on this site besides initimate encounters and serious dating. I don't think that removing the IE profiles always gives an accurate ratio of men/women looking for a serious date
A hypothetical example to prove my point. Suppose there are 1200 men and 600 women in a certain area. The ratio is 2 to 1. 300 men are looking for IE. After the IE profiles are removed, there are 900 men and 600 women. The ratio is now 1.5 to 1. Suppose there are 100 men and 200 women are here for forums, friends, ego boosts, and other non-serious dating reasons. After these people are removed, there are now 800 men and 400 women. The ratio is now once again 2 to 1. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 7:44:01 PM | I will say a women has alot easier time of this and yes the majority of them are shallow because on here they can be why because simply we allow them to if you got a crap load of emails a day from people trying to pick you up would you not be picky.
I never ever email a really hot looking women why because if I need to be rejected like that I can always go out and get it done in real time instead of on here.
I will agree with the rating and no you dont see really attractive women with ugly guys anywhere I have been unless said guy is
in a band
has alot of money
they grew up together
other than that attractive hot women are with attractive hot men and so on down the line.
this is the nature of the beast sometimes attractive men will drop down because he is tired of having himself used and so changes for the better or said other reasons.
I on the other hand have never seen a women drop in looks except for the above reasons because when they get cynical they will use men for stuff and give up on love till their looks fade | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 7:49:51 PM | I am almost totally convinced that neither sex benefits from online dating.
The forums back up my opinion, too. Read them, they say it all.
I'm not gonna pretend that all men and women are cretins, because I know that isn't true, but enough are that all either gender does is wade through crap.
Reading these forums gives me the distinct impression that men & women hate eachother. So how will anyone hook up? | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 10:27:29 PM | I'm not convinced that the forums really say much. All you hear is what that they noisy people, who haven't managed to get out of here have to say.
And on to more useless stats:
In a 15 mile radius of Sunnyvale, CA, Age 37-39, POF male to female ratio is about 2.5/1. Yahoo has about 4x but the ratio is nearly the same.
Search for Users without children and it changes to 4/1 for Yahoo and 5/1 for POF.
I wonder if technology filters could help. Is there a machine detectable pattern to most of the crud that women get? If it could be auto-filtered out then maybe those of actually willing to write something real could get through. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/20/2007 10:32:21 PM | | You are so right.Internet dating does suck for guys.Women get tons of mail, as a man you are lucky to get one.I wish I wasn't attracted to women.I wish there was a pill I could take and not want them anymore. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/21/2007 2:50:04 PM | | I hear ya there...i msg people if I like their looks, or their profile, or certain comments. Whether or not I am INTERESTED in them...I dont' think it hurts anyones ego to get a positive comment on their profile. | |
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dpd22
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Joined: 11/9/2006
Msg: 349 | |
| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/21/2007 3:27:02 PM |
Yes the ratio is 3 male profiles for each women profile ... but around 30 percent of male profiles said "Intimate Encounters' i guess about 20 percent lie and are also looking for IE but put down friend, dating and long term.... so the ratio of men per women is about 1.5 to 1
To get the ratio down to 1.5 to 1, you are assuming that some other men ( besides the ones with IE profiles ) aren't looking for a serious relationship, but all women are looking for a serious relationship. The first assumption is probably true, but the 2nd assumption is wrong.
Just because a woman isn't looking for an intimate encounter, it doesn't mean that she is looking for a serious date. I listed some reasons that a woman could be on this site besides initimate encounters and serious dating. I don't think that removing the IE profiles always gives an accurate ratio of men/women looking for a serious date
I agree. Just like some people have said, some women could be here for the forums, friends, just seeing what's out there and not seriously looking for a date etc. Another example. 45,ooo men and 15,000 women are within a certain radius of a city or town. 3 to 1 ratio. 10,000 men are looking for IE. After the IE profiles are removed the ratio is about 2.3 to 1. 5,000 other men and 5,000 women are here for other non-dating reasons. After these people are removed, there are 30,000 men and 10,000 women. Back to the original 3 to 1 ratio. The 3 to 1 ratio could be become 4 to 1 or 5 or 1 if you have other parameters such as people under 40, people without children etcchildren etc | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/21/2007 4:03:25 PM | I agree. Just like some people have said, some women could be here for the forums, friends, just seeing what's out there and not seriously looking for a date etc. Another example. 45,ooo men and 15,000 women are within a certain radius of a city or town. 3 to 1 ratio. 10,000 men are looking for IE. After the IE profiles are removed the ratio is about 2.3 to 1. 5,000 other men and 5,000 women are here for other non-dating reasons. After these people are removed, there are 30,000 men and 10,000 women. Back to the original 3 to 1 ratio. The 3 to 1 ratio could be become 4 to 1 or 5 or 1 if you have other parameters such as people under 40, people without children etcchildren etc
You are NOT getting my point and your math is way off..
Another example. 45,ooo men and 15,000 women are within a certain radius of a city or town. 3 to 1 ratio. 22,500 men (not 10000) are looking for IE. After the IE profiles are removed the ratio is about 1.5 to 1. 5,000 other men and 5,000 women are here for other non-dating reasons. Now the ratio is 1.75 to 1 and not 3 to 1.
Last year the owner of this web site added this mail restriction
Must not have messaged users looking for intimate encounters or sex.
Why ?
Because women were getting some much mail from men looking for sex only who di never look at their profile which sometime said "DO not contact me if you are looking for a one-nighter, FWB or booty call.
Most women who are not looking for IE do NOT want men looking for to emailing then
If checked the Boston aree and found out
231 men (30-35) ........... IE about 15 percent who are "HONEST" about looking for sex..
491 men (30-35) ........... Dating
280 men (30-35) ............ Long term
138 men (30-35 ) ........... friend
331 men (30-35) .......... hang out
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1240 * .2 = 992 this assumes only 20 percent of men who put down dating, long term, etc are lying and really looking for IE
494 women (30-35) .... all relationships ... 9 of the look for IE
992 / 494 = 2.0 .....
1240 * .4 = 774 this assumes only 20 percent of men who put down dating, long term, etc are lying and really looking for IE
774 / 494 = 1.5 .... | |
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