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 Little Mrs Forlorn

Joined: 3/7/2007
Msg: 401
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/25/2007 12:51:35 PM
I dont know about eborys
but ive been on a few dating sites (when i was single)
and i must say i always thought internet dating sucked for women
when i did internet date .. the men were the cream of the crop (NOT)
 dpd22

Joined: 11/9/2006
Msg: 402
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/25/2007 1:28:35 PM
good for men:
* they can shop
and not feel bad about walking right past the ones they're not interested in
* they can find stuff out that sometimes takes a while in person
like... children? spouse? smoker?
* they can suggest dates on their own terms
rest assured the next time they're at that coffee shop, there will be at least one lady there interested in meeting them - and that's why she's there
* they can sell themself
just put an ad up, and have the women come to you
you may not get the time of day in a dark bar, but here you have a captive audience - she will get your message
you have better odds that she'll find out more about you than just your looks too


These things can also apply to women. It's not an advantage for either gender.


sucks for women:
* super impatient or painfully insecure
sorry I don't live online. I will get your message. I will!
yes I read the message. I have not yet responded. Don't freak out yet! It's not deleted
the guy doesn't believe I'm interested in him. I initiated the contact!?!
or they never want to meet. We're in a public place, and I'm probably half your size. Animals and babies love me!
* the lies
they're married. they're looking for no strings attached. they're looking for an arrangement. their photos are 15 years younger than they. they never intended to meet anyone


These things especially the lies can also apply to men. There are women who lie about their martial status, age, weight etc.

IMO the only real disadvantage for women is sometimes they get rude and vulgar emails. There are also plenty of decent looking men ( and in some cases good looking men ) with nice profiles, send out decent emails and still get few responses. If more women gave these men a chance, I'll sure they could find a man here.
 dancecard

Joined: 3/19/2006
Msg: 403
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Posted: 5/25/2007 2:03:17 PM
Hummm! there is such a thing as ,Too much Information.
I suppose , if you havn't got a life and looking for one,
Your in a Sucking Situation, wherever you are at.

(Note; this is not directed to anyone imparticular)

Having been there, ( a few times ) I understand, But
it's not the Date Site, ~ it's Your Site.

There is something in you or about you that's causing
you this problem of not connecting.

Like the Lady that only dates married men, she is safe
for the most part, for the relationship is limited, yet she will
whine and carry on between these relationships.

Or the 50 year old thats looking in the 30 range.
They like to say," they are looking for someone that can keep up!"
Like they might have a missle up their ass or something.

Are you looking for someone equally as shallow and vain as yourself?
Boy ! now there is a match made in heaven. ~ I think Paris Hilton, will
be out of jail soon.

They named it Plenty of Fish, and it's a good name. I love to fish.
Takes paticence, time, determination, skill, knowledge and a good
presentation.

I wish I had more time to devote, for I really enjoy the process.
I'm not sure where it going ~ but trust me, it's going somewhere
I've met some very nice ladies and I've made some special friends here on POF ~ thats
very dear to me. ~ I not sure how others might measure my success. I
really don't care , and don't wish to expand on it.

Just don't get all excited about one person ~ until that person has given
you a very good reason to be excited. ~

Chill Out ~ have fun ~ relax~ some girls won't like guys like us but some will.

dar
 freebird78

Joined: 12/13/2005
Msg: 404
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Posted: 5/25/2007 3:15:49 PM
It also may have to do with where people live as well and the selection in those areas. I know, living in San Diego, there are a lot more quality women than men, so online dating for women here is extremely limited. If you are a half-way decent looking guy out here, you can play the feild all you want and have women lined up. Unfortunately, that's how it is out here. Maybe where the OP lives, it's the other way around. If that's the case, then I'm off to pack my bags and get a plane ticket. :P
 subhacker

Joined: 11/30/2006
Msg: 405
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Posted: 5/25/2007 3:30:42 PM
Freebird78,

It sounds like I need to go to San Diego. And you need to go to San Jose.

"Single men of the South Bay, you have an unlikely new best friend.

Say hello to Oprah!

Her TV show Friday featured a new survey ranking the best U.S. cities for women over 35 to find a guy. San Jose came in No. 1, beating out those other well-known romantic hot spots Salt Lake City and Arlington, Texas.
"

For full text (damn censors!) search the San Jose Mercury News web site for
"Want a guy? Come to San Jose"
 toni_808

Joined: 5/3/2006
Msg: 406
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Posted: 5/25/2007 3:50:12 PM
I hear this all the time. Guys are always so amazed that I reply.
While I do get sooo many emails, most just want one thing...
Its really creepy though. I've had offers to go here ad there for the weekend for shopping trips and such. At least you don't have constant messages to 'teach' you sexual things or ask how big you are... Being a female on a dating site isn't what you think it is.
 drg1301

Joined: 4/13/2007
Msg: 407
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/25/2007 5:01:21 PM

At least you don't have constant messages to 'teach' you sexual things or ask how big you are...

For some reason I do believe that you would be utterly amazed at some of the mail that we men get. Just because we don't continually post threads on them doesn't mean that it isn't common.
 mystique-elle

Joined: 2/10/2007
Msg: 408
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Posted: 5/27/2007 10:16:32 AM
Toni 808, can it be because of your enormous hooters... almost shot me in the eye... cuz, from what I can see that is all you have to offer... get off your high horse boob girl.. YOU ARE TOO YOUNG FOR THIS AND U ARE PLAYINIG IN DANGEROUS TERRITORY!!!
All you are showing is your watermelons cuz, all they want from you is to come into contact with your mountains of fat and dump you for the next set big bazookas... you have the breasts to attract them but, do you have what it takes to keep them? Time for this little girl to grow and realize how the real world functions... even my daughter knows that... and, that is a no brainer ... so, smack up the side of the head and go get your mother so she can do that for me! where is the parental guideness and supervision for this naive child who should be focusing in school not hungry pervs..
Boys are Boys (pigs by nature) most of thinking comes from their other head and they will use you and misuse and toss you aside.. hit the freaken books and have fun with your friends!! Do you want guys to like you for YOU or for your other ASSETS... it would be sad if you say BREASTS... take a test ... take all your breasts shots off.. and see how many emails you get... probably from nice guys.(maybe, freaks will always email you no matter what) but, NOT all the Boob Pervs. girl you have to respect yourself much more than that....this is not a game...
No, I am not jealous... thanks for thinking that... I am your mother 's age, giving you the advice your mother should have!
 kristiann

Joined: 4/17/2007
Msg: 409
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/27/2007 10:37:09 AM
I have to admit I have gotten some emails from people that I have not had any interest in, and havn't replied. If you don't get a reply assume that person is not interested. I don't like sending an email back stating it when I think the non-reply speaks for itself.
On the other hand, I have sent many emails to guys and have gotten no reply or saw it was deleted right away. Many more of these, then people who actaully reply to my emails....so it goes both ways. I don't like to be rejected either but if they are not interested I would rather not have them waste my time by leading me on in small talk, or sending me email email basically stating "I am not interested don't email me anymore"
If you delete my email and don't reply, I get the point. Sometimes no news is better then bad news.
 bassgirl747

Joined: 9/5/2005
Msg: 410
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Posted: 5/27/2007 11:16:06 AM
If men stopped playing games, then it would be better for them. And get out of this mind set that if she messages you back even once she's clingy, and if she doesnt she's not interested. Enough of the games already, and just get real.
 dpd22

Joined: 11/9/2006
Msg: 411
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Posted: 5/27/2007 11:28:44 AM

Sometimes no news is better then bad news.


In this case, no news= bad news. If someone doesn't reply to you or sends you "A Thanks but No Thanks", the result and the meaning is the same. Not Interested. IMO the majority of women and men would rather get a "No Thanks" message than "read deleted" without a reply based on the amount of threads on this topic. At least you didn't ignore him/her.



If men stopped playing games, then it would be better for them.


Not all men play games. Some women play games as well. It's a 2 way street.
 bassgirl747

Joined: 9/5/2005
Msg: 412
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Posted: 5/27/2007 11:47:15 AM
I guess I just have yet to find a man that doesn't.

And I dont know about these games you're talking about women playing? Because I sure dont play them, I dont even know what they are.
 WordWizard

Joined: 10/21/2005
Msg: 413
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Posted: 5/27/2007 12:08:16 PM


Boys are Boys (pigs by nature) most of thinking comes from their other head and they will use you and misuse and toss you aside.. hit the freaken books and have fun with your friends!!


On behalf of all sensible men, thanks for letting us know what you think of us. You've saved us the time and effort of filtering you out.
 mystique-elle

Joined: 2/10/2007
Msg: 414
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 5/27/2007 12:30:29 PM
^^^^^I did not say all men?... are you going by the advice I gave to the 18 year old girl.. i said that men in general are pigs (no secret) and the ones who are after her are usually pervs and freaks ...shame on you!! don't you think you are a bit too young for her... I got shoes older than that she can be your daugher...
Stay with the program... filter all you want...no skin off my butt... I know who I am and my friends know that too...
 sweetcherrywine

Joined: 5/15/2007
Msg: 415
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Posted: 5/27/2007 12:35:49 PM
I don't know where you're from...but if you emailed me..I would most certainly answer back out of courtesy.....and if you were in my area..I would even go out with you..so please don't give up...do you really want a woman who thinks she so vain that she can get any man she wants...keep fishing, you will hook a good one sooner or late:
 El_Mariachi

Joined: 4/21/2007
Msg: 416
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Posted: 5/27/2007 12:46:10 PM
If admin could see his way clear to block the nutbars, things would improve for each gender rather dramatically. But then again, he might not have that much of a member base left.

Maybe he could create a function we could use to block (not just e-mails, but everything) from people who post tripe, generalize, bash, flip out and routinely act psychotic, etc... you know.. all the stuff we agree are sh*tty about this dating site.
 hugh613

Joined: 5/21/2007
Msg: 417
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Posted: 5/27/2007 1:00:18 PM
I think alot of it has to do with the number of messages the girls end up getting. I mean, I know a large percentage of them are probably of the "You're hot" and "Wanna hookup?" variety but, after that, they're still going to have a fair number of half decent offers on the table. And if that's the case, there really isn't any need for them to go out and search on their own - they can pretty much just pick and choose (and if you're just an average looking guy, let's face it, you can pretty much forget about it.)

My advice: wait for the girls to come to you. I know it's demoralizing to see an empty inbox and messages that go unreplied (read, but not deleted - really don't understand the point of that) but, trust me, if they seek you out, all the better. At least then, it's because something about your profile interested her, not "Ok, contestant #83, what do you have to offer me that the other 82 don't?" Just my opinion.
 Sleepless in Glendora

Joined: 12/19/2006
Msg: 418
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Posted: 5/27/2007 1:14:47 PM
wow you are a pretty smart guy with great advice. I was amazed to find this particular subject because I thought it was the guys who always have it made in dating. You just gave me a new lease on life in the dating world. thanks!!!
 MONEMPERER

Joined: 6/26/2006
Msg: 419
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Posted: 5/27/2007 1:21:44 PM
To hugh 613 since I have never once recieved a message from someone who likes my profile every contact I have ever gotten is in response to what I write and even then I get very few responses.
 hugh613

Joined: 5/21/2007
Msg: 420
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Posted: 5/27/2007 1:44:17 PM
Well, I don't know, what do you want me to say? "Let's all just give up"? Or "Might as well just let the handful of studly guys date all the girls". All I know is, if you're thin-skinned about these things, maybe it would be less embarassing and less demoralizing to just sit back and wait. At least that way you'll know it's because she's actually interested in YOU, not because it didn't work out with her first 100 choices. And if no one ends up seeking you out, well... maybe online dating isn't the proper showcase for what you have to offer, that's all. Dating did exist before the internet, y'know.
 ImaStayerNotaPlayer

Joined: 9/13/2006
Msg: 421
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Posted: 5/27/2007 1:51:16 PM
wow there are some beautiful women in here.
 mystique-elle

Joined: 2/10/2007
Msg: 422
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Posted: 5/27/2007 1:56:13 PM
Eborys
Just hang in there... when you least expect it the right one will come in... at the mean time.. try to get yourself into some other activities, events, sports, dancing ... whatever... do not expect too much here.... you get the good, the bad and the very butt ugly... trust me on that one LOL

I personally answer most of my emails (most) unless, I missed some or someone is out of my league or he is a total nut... (mind you, this is a FREE dating site) in other words = free nuts are *out and about* however, I had made many wonder friends... and, I will keep on giving my brutally honest advice and remember that *like attracts like* no kidding about that...

Do not worry or stress ... you will do fine... you seem to be intelligent...just do not try too too hard... just be you!
Peace 2u!
 lightpainter

Joined: 4/30/2007
Msg: 423
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Posted: 5/27/2007 2:39:11 PM
I'm not replying to any post in particular, but just to reply in general to the subject line of the thread.

I have worked in marketing and customer support in the online dating industry for several years and I can tell you why it sucks for guys:

Wwmen generally do not initiate contact. Men for decades now have been bashed over their collective heads with the "equal rights" mantra from feminists. Yet when it comes to pay sites and online dating women generally DO NOT pay to talk to men and for the most part DO NOT initiate contact.

Now before all of you women reply with your anecdotal "I have initiated contact"...and/or "I have paid to talk to men." I can assure you that you are a rarity.

The reality is that most women who create a profile and post a decent photo on any online dating site with experience some sort of initiated email from men. Now they may complain that they are not receiving emails from the men they like but nonetheless they experience what it feels like to be wanted and chased. Men for the most part DO NOT experience this.

For the most part men that post ads with photos experience ZERO - to a few emails initiated from women. Most men experience ZERO initiated contact.

Do women have any idea what this does the male psyche? It makes men feel as if women perceive them as not being worth any effort to go after. Men witness women going after things they want every day, especially career-wise and are left to wonder why they don't experience this same aggression from the modern woman in the dating realm?

I can tell you from doing many surveys and focus groups for large online dating companies that try to get women to spend more money and initiate more that we often hear these responses from women:

-it's the man's job to initiate
-it's the man's place to pay

Meanwhile modern feminism has worked hard to communicate that no man should ever tell a woman's place or assert that a woman has any particular "job" to do in society without being labeled a male chauvinist.

What this adds up to is a lot of men perceiving women as cold, distant beings that do not care to invest any effort into getting to know men. It creates a culture of men who wind up thinking to themselves, "If I have to make all of the effort then I am going to look for some kind of reward." and why should men stay with women that apparently do not care to invest a simple few dollars or to take the time to initiate contact with men?

Women for the most part are completely unaware of their collective behaviour and the effect it has on men.
 drg1301

Joined: 4/13/2007
Msg: 424
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Posted: 5/27/2007 3:41:55 PM
Good post lightpainter. I doubt if any of the women will pay attention to it though.

In my experience most women don't care to invest any effort to gettinmg to know men.

Actually I think that a lot of women are aware of their collective behavior and it's effect. And are content with it.
 casperella

Joined: 10/30/2006
Msg: 425
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Posted: 5/27/2007 4:14:26 PM
Um Hundreds of emails? Yeah right
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