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 Ninki

Joined: 4/11/2005
Msg: 26
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Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 11/29/2005 12:39:51 PM
eborys, I took a look at your profile and there's not much there! Just that you're into music, drums, guitars and thrash metal. Write a little more about yourself. As for the good-looking women who put up sexy pics, sure they get tons of emails... from guys wanting nothing but sex! Unless that's what they want, too, they'll have to reject these 'offers'. Also, it's fact of nature that males are the chasers and females the chasees. There's so much gender-inequality that hurts women, this one is one that sucks for guys. There might be something in your emails that turns women off. What do you write? Do you write stuff like "Hey, u wanna chat?" I'd delete a message like that, too. make an effort to write at least two or three coherent sentences and be polite.


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 orchid38

Joined: 7/24/2005
Msg: 27
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 11/29/2005 12:43:03 PM
Hmm, well Have any of you men ever thought perhaps it isn't exactly a garden for us women?...YOu can think it's BS all you want and that's your right, but I've been here since June I think and I was totally ready to walk away until I had some women write and tell me they have experienced the same ..

Oh and the no one responding after 15 emails..LOL>.Sorry, I don't mean to laugh and it's not really funny, but one thing I've come to find and had to accept when dealing with people online, they forget manners and are basically rude..

You men have 2 sets of standards and rules..You can talk to women as many as you like, you Judge us by our beauty, bodies and numerous things yet YOU always want us to cry for you guys because No one is giving you a chance!..

First that is simply BS and if you want us women to take you seriously, you need to stop with the I'm so good looking and can't understand why no one is writing to me..Come on..SOME women TRULY don't CARE how handsome you are or what you have...To some of us it matters more what's in the heart, the personality and we are looking for someone honest, faithful; and who has a clue what matters and isn't chasing others while claiming to care about us..And we can see through the BS ...I have seen so many men post the Buff muscle pics and the in front of a car or motorcycle pic and your own pics show what you think it takes to get a woman..And yes, I know some women post provacative, nude pics and to each his own, but things and beauty come and go...If you want love or long lasting you need to understand that simple statement..

YOUR OWN WORDS HERE The GOOD LOOKING Women rated 9 of 10 are so stuck up..Good Lord how totally Shallow ..Tell me have you ever written to someone You DON"T PLACE A NUMBER ON???...TRY IT, You might find those numberless women have a whole lot more to offer than YOU can ever imagine!

Men and women who rate anyone on a number scale are simply stuck in highschool and that is one of the saddest parts about reading these post...Did you ever grow up? Tell me when you pass someone who is not a 9 or 10 do you tell them how bad the are? Do you still do the wolf calls and the moo sounds that the juveniles did in school? Do you judge your own worth by your looks and possessions?.

HMMM< yup, I am mouthy , but tell me how many men here actually practice what they whine about?

I see nothing wrong in talking to someone, it's how you decide if you want to know them, but when I find a man I want to know better and feel wants to know me, then I stop "hunting"..How many men here do this?

Sorry guys, but your whole ideas that it's so much easier for us women is a total wash...Yes, some women may have it easy and have men all over them..but the majority of us find it just as frustrating as you men do...believe it, or not..

And to repeat, some women who have grown up, gotten past high school mode know what's truly important about a man..It's not his looks, possessions, car, home or what he can buy us...It's what lies in his heart, his caring and compassion for others, the way he treats his family and kids, his personality, if he can still laugh and smile ..Might be hard for some men to understand this, but some women actually get what's important and we want an adult man in our lives, not one still stuck in high school mode..
 riveraojr

Joined: 6/23/2005
Msg: 28
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 11/29/2005 1:14:01 PM
Ebory:

What I want you to do is look around in the real world: parks, malls, festivals and anywhere but the bars seen. Take a look at all the couples that are strolling around.

When you look around and pay close attention to what’s really actually going on, you’ll be amazed.

You’ll be amazed at how many attractive women will be with men of all sizes, shapes and age.

Yes, I know...tall, dark, rich and handsome men will have certain advantages. Nevertheless, the more you pay attention the more you will realize that women respond to PERSONALITY far more then they will from LOOKS.

What you need to do is change your beliefs and attitude towards women, if you want to have any chance of dating them online or offline.

I know of man, who is not that great looking but is very successful with women. The way he talks, moves, and make women laugh is amazing. Women just gravitate to him as if he’s a magnet...this is powerful stuff to see my friend.

How does he do it? Well he has great personality and attitude towards women.
 judge_and_jury

Joined: 3/9/2005
Msg: 29
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Posted: 11/29/2005 1:19:04 PM
It works for me lol
 Eborys

Joined: 10/20/2005
Msg: 30
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 11/29/2005 3:34:32 PM
Orchid 38- I did not say that the 9-10 women are so stuck up I said that the good looking women are stuck up and they dont respond to any guys who are less than 9-10, read more carefully. Also, I used a different profile to send my e-mails, which is MUCH better written than the one you see here and it has a good photo as well. I know internet dating isnt a stroll through the park for everyone but you have to admit that women have it a lot easier than men do, they have an indisputable advantage over men.
 goldengurl

Joined: 8/24/2005
Msg: 31
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Posted: 11/29/2005 11:22:03 PM
Thats crap! We have to weed through a lot of guys who are just out looking for a cheap screw, sorry but its the truth! You can't really compare how easy it is for women vs. men in online dating. It's like comparing apples and oranges. I am tired of hearing how women have it so easy compared to men. Do you know how hard it is for a nice girl to find a decent guy to date??? No, didn't think so! But i do know that there are some quality guys out there, as well as quality girls out there. The key is being patient and waiting for the one who is right for you!
 Tinkle

Joined: 11/2/2005
Msg: 32
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Posted: 11/30/2005 12:27:03 AM
I haven't had problems.

Somethings to keep in mind r. Online is a lot like the bar scene. Tons of guys, less girls, the guys hit on the girls, they sit back and act like pseudo-lesbians and dance with one another on table to get the guys' attention. They then pick from the swarm. There are the losers there, and there are tons here. If you read around you will find that even though the men might out number the women, a shit load of these guys are what is considered: pervs, whiners, doormats, jerks, cheaters, trolls, bigots, jerkers-of-fuzzy-webcam-pics, stupid asses that ask girls for webcam sex the first e-mail even tho they said they are not into it, don't ask. No profile reading embeciles that say profound things like, "Hey your (yes they say your, not you're) HOT", then expect some girl to have a lot to reply on, as if she hasn't heard that from a herd of dorks before and isn't tired of it. To continue, Ugly, egocentric, liars, players, headgaming etc. etc. etc.

That narrows it down a bit. Now. Some of the good looking guys have fake pics. They won't last past the second date. If they do, she's dumb, shouldn't want her.

Yes, a huge lists of negative name calling can be applied to women. I'm not going into that here........ that's for another thread, at another time, maybe.

I notice the people that seem to not be successful online are ones that appear to focus on what they think others should be like, rather than concentrate on how they are being. Example, your profile is bare. Not sure if it's been that way, but it doesn't give women any idea about you. Remember you are 1-100 guys. Some have you beat as far as profile goes.
 Eborys

Joined: 10/20/2005
Msg: 33
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Posted: 11/30/2005 12:27:45 AM
How could it not be easier for women? The attractive ones dont have to do anything but receive and screen out the profiles, being picky as humanly possible. Men have to do all the e-mailing and we get rejected constantly. How do you think that feels? How encouraging do you think it is to continue searching for a mate when you have to deal with the persistant frustration of being rejected and made to feel inadequate all the time? At least women dont have to face as much rejection as men, and they dont have damage to their self-esteem or morale like men do.
 HobbstarMaximum

Joined: 11/19/2005
Msg: 34
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 11/30/2005 1:50:05 AM
First of all - as someone mentioned earlier - this is the way it is in reality. It's like going to a bar. Men are traditionally the ones that make the move, put on the big facade to attract women, and then possibly get rejected. It's no different in the online world.

"And they often have outrageous expectations and standards like "he must be tall, handsome, intelligent, witty, goal-oriented, ambitious etc etc and all the usual bullsh it"

HAHA! I don't know about anyone else, but this made me laugh. Outrageous expectations?? We women call that common decency. Who wants an ugly, dumb, lazy man? Is that what we're supposed to be looking for?

"The good looking girls on this site, especially from my area are very stuck up and they only reply to you if you are 9+ out of 10 in a scale of attractiveness, no exaggeration."

Gee, how hypocritical is that? Obviously you don't give anyone other than modelesque girls a chance, and you're whining because they won't accept you? Boo-hoo ... how about all the 'below 5' women on this site who e-mail good looking guys but get rejected? I bet you've rejected some average looking women, just like the models who've rejected you - what they consider to be an average looking man. Maybe you should stop having "outrageous expectations" as far as looks.

Cry me a river - women get rejected all the time.
 goldengurl

Joined: 8/24/2005
Msg: 35
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 11/30/2005 1:53:06 AM
Both men and women face rejection in the dating world, thats life! Eborys, maybe you are emailing the wrong "type" of woman! If i email a guy and get no response. I think ok, this guy isn't interested and move on. There is no point in wasting time on someone who doesn't take the time to send you a message back or ruining your self esteem over it!
 amazonian chick

Joined: 7/8/2005
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Posted: 11/30/2005 3:27:00 AM
Just because women get more messages, it doesn't mean that they are quality messages. I can go for days getting loads of messages...They will be filth, some from people are are 5ft5 (I am 6ft2.5), far away, really old. This isn't a GOOD thing! This does does not make me shallow, it means that it's a dating site, and these people are totally unsuitable. Yes, if someone sends a nice, polite message, I will usually say thanks. However, I think that most ladies on here would agree that we would have the number of messages we get cut by 3/4 if it meant that the ones that are left are quality!!
 shore66

Joined: 5/23/2004
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Posted: 11/30/2005 7:02:17 AM

Why would a guy send an email to 50 yr old woman?



Cuz he's smarter than you?
 BlondnBrilliant

Joined: 11/16/2005
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Posted: 11/30/2005 8:22:11 AM
Hi,

I read this posting of yours and I am sorry that you are going through tough times. I have messaged several men, and sometimes I get an answer, and sometimes I don't. I have had a few messages sent to me, and I try to answer them all. Key word there is "try". Unless someone is much too young, or much too old for me (in my opinion), I respond to them and wish them luck. Anyone else, I pretty much don't rule them out, as I know that pictures often don't do one justice. Besides, beauty is skin deep.
Are there really that many more men on these sites than women? I have never searched for women, so I guess I wouldn't know anything about that.
Keep your chin up! You will find her!
Take Care
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 hadenuff

Joined: 7/16/2005
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10 or 15 Emails? Wow, you're really rockin'
Posted: 11/30/2005 9:07:03 AM
What did you think was gonna happen? Post after you've sent out 500-1000 emails...lol

This takes time, and frankly may never happen...but if 10 or 15 emails is all the patience you've got, you'd best quit now. I've met some very nice people on here, why not try looking at it on the basis of making new friends? Try to ENJOY the experience, fer chrissakes...

Good Luck
 wingsandheart

Joined: 10/12/2005
Msg: 40
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Posted: 11/30/2005 9:48:41 AM
I have alot of guy friends on here. Most of them would make an awesome boyfriend, but they live too far away. They are all quite honest, and that's what I like. It seems to be a problem over in Canada that good guys can't find good girls and good girls in the States can't find good guys! I don't judge on pics because mine isn't the most flattering. I've met a guy online with no pic posted because I was interested in what was on his profile. He did send me a pic after talking to him for a while. He's cute! We still talk to each other. I want to move to Canada! lol
 Milla J

Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 41
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Posted: 11/30/2005 10:04:46 AM
Waa, waa, waa...

Stop crying about it already!!!

You say you get a lot of attention in the real world, go back there!

Stop hanging around here ****ing and moaning about how hard it is for you, and how bad you feel!!

Life is not always fair. Get over it!

Please.
 Toronaga

Joined: 11/16/2005
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Posted: 11/30/2005 10:50:22 AM
I love these threads! They are always good for a laugh. Helps me to see my life isn't so messed up after all, thanks! lmao

One thing I do agree with here and i've seen it time and time again, females always hands down get more msgs than the guys. Even forgetting about the crap msgs, and only taking into account the quality msgs, this still applies.

But like in real life. The guys have all the pressure to make the moves. But this makes life VERY difficult for the shy guys. They seem to always be left out in the cold, which is a shame, because they are missing on some great girls and those girls are missing out on some great guys.

Myself i'm a recovering shy guy, lol i'm much more outgoing than I used to be, and loving it. But still find trying to pick up a girl, cliche and cheesey and not me. I'd rather meet someone get to know them, whatever.

But anyhow, nobody really has it made, girls have advantages, guys do as well......

It's called life people, get used to it or go live by yourself in the woods ;)


 Sexyfeline

Joined: 10/5/2005
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Posted: 11/30/2005 11:19:03 AM
Perhaps you are being toooo picky....too choosy...most men on these sites want Barbies...all looks...no brains....no passion either....or maybe its because you're married...or something else...
 Sexyfeline

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Posted: 11/30/2005 11:23:00 AM
I don't mean to pick on you...but you've got nothing in your profile to attract anyone...you never answered any of the questions...maybe if you put a little time into it...some EFFORT....maybe you could get some responses...
 Sexyfeline

Joined: 10/5/2005
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Posted: 11/30/2005 11:26:42 AM
Great reply...you sound like you have a level head and respect all women....ty
 Sexyfeline

Joined: 10/5/2005
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Posted: 11/30/2005 11:30:40 AM
How does it feel to be rejected because you're not the norm? I am a BBW...I have been rejected so many times I have lost count....men have it so much easier...you can be butt ugly...but as long as you've got a great personality...you can get the girl...with your smooth talk...women who are not of the norm have it hard because most men can't get past the fact that we're not a size 0....that we have meat on our bones...you are a stuck up egotistical man....you need to grow up and smell the roses...
 hulahoney

Joined: 10/24/2005
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Posted: 11/30/2005 11:41:01 AM
did someone say "suck"? seems to me you have to meet in person to get anywhere near 1st base. so get out your sword and do the knightly thing. if you want a damsel... go for her.
 frieser

Joined: 11/28/2005
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Posted: 11/30/2005 12:56:35 PM
I agree with what you are writing, I've been internet dating for several months and just started with POF. In my short time with POF, I've had one lady so full of herself that she graded my Email for spelling and grammer. You talk about a out of control ego. Another lady has given me advice about my facial hair. Now that Im on a roll let me tell you about the lady on another site that replied to my email and said she wasn't interested because she didn't think I could keep up with her pace in life? I've been very active all my life and not that long ago I have ran two marathons and numerous other events. I suppose I should have put all this in my bio but, I have tried to leave some things unknown so as to have some pleasent surprises as a relationship grows. What the hell do I know. I've lived for 55 years on this earth and never been arrested, never taken any ilegal drugs of any kind and I've always guided myself through life with one simple phrase "DO WHATS RIGHT". This requires someone to be honest & trustworthy. I'm feel better after reading other male experiences, I beginning to think I was some 55 year old has been with nothing to offer.
 Eborys

Joined: 10/20/2005
Msg: 49
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Posted: 11/30/2005 1:05:21 PM
Hobbstarmax: You dont think asking for a tall, handsome, witty, humourous and can make me laugh, intelligent, athletic, goal-oriented man is a bit much? Being tall is necessary too? Athletic, muscular? Not just intelligent but witty too? Why not specify another facet of human intelligence like an aptitude for critical thinking and logic while youre at it? What is there left to ask for? You've got the recipe for Mr. Pefect there. Specifying things like body type and height tend to get a little excessive and it makes you come across as highly demanding. If you dont see that then you fit the typical picky ****y woman mold I'm talking about. Also, how do you know who I've been rejecting? I will sometimes not reply to someone who is older than me or not my type, is that unreasonable? But my point is that it takes a 9-10 guy to get any responses from a woman. I myself respond to many average looking women, especially if they have interests that suit mine. I have even sent messages to women with no photos on their profiles because they sounded interesting to me. I'm not saying women dont get rejected too or that men dont reject women, I'm saying that men getting rejected is greater than vice versa.
 amazonian chick

Joined: 7/8/2005
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Posted: 11/30/2005 2:38:51 PM
well,

I am a single mom
I am overweight
and I am black

I went on another site after I asked the question about what being white has to do with it. Now I may have the answer :S

A lot of the guys in my area want a caucasian female, slim/atheletic and no kids. I was very surprised at the amount that there was. It seems that on sites when you pay, you can specify down to facial hair about what you want.

So, now, looking at who I am , I am now reluctant to ever make the initial contact with men, and will become the type you mentioned. The type who sits back and waits for emails. As rejection for any of the above reasons is a hard pill to swallow.

(and I am really tall...which cuts my chances drastically again!!....But I am still smiling :)
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