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 NorseViking869

Joined: 3/23/2006
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Posted: 2/3/2008 2:41:43 PM

She lets it happen? believe me if we could stop the men from sending tacky sexual email crap we would have figured it out a long time ago and we all wouldn't be complaining about the ill manners of some men


It is men like that that make it hard for the good gentlemen out there to find their fish.
 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 11/16/2006
Msg: 1202
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Posted: 2/3/2008 2:55:49 PM

She lets it happen?


Pretty much, yes. He got a response from her that wasn't "F*ck off!", so he wanted to see how far he could take it.


believe me if we could stop the men from sending tacky sexual email crap we would have figured it out a long time ago and we all wouldn't be complaining about the ill manners of some men.


Don't respond to them. Hell, just last Thursday night, some woman responded to my non-X-rated IM request, then immediately closed the window. How much ya wanna bet I found my way to her "blocked" list? So why, apparently, do the "players" have such an amazing, magical power to force most women to respond to them until they can send the pictures of their pee-pees?

I remember one woman posting that, when a guy sent her a picture of his johnson, she replied with, "Nice. Do you have it in adult size?" Nice, classy, shut him down with no-muss no-fuss. Another woman I read, replied to a Prick-Pic with, "I'm amazed that you're not ashamed to show something that small to others!" Again, nice, classy, and a hell of a good zing. She took a potential loss and turned it into a stupendous win.

Arlo
 Fifi47

Joined: 8/19/2004
Msg: 1203
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Posted: 2/3/2008 3:17:15 PM
because the players do not mention sex and we think gee maybe a genuine man who is not a sex talking sleaze and then bingo we get the pee wee picture. thats my point if we had any indication we would have ignored him before then. and sadly, genuine men have to take the brunt of all of it, so don't get irked at the women, get irked at the players for ruining your chances with ladies.
 NorseViking869

Joined: 3/23/2006
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Posted: 2/3/2008 3:26:07 PM

because the players do not mention sex and we think gee maybe a genuine man who is not a sex talking sleaze and then bingo we get the pee wee picture. thats my point if we had any indication we would have ignored him before then. and sadly, genuine men have to take the brunt of all of it, so don't get irked at the women, get irked at the players for ruining your chances with ladies.


I am irked at the players and not the ladies. It is sad that some of these ladies wont get to know me and I have to try and try again and date and a date again.
 judyarlinepuckett

Joined: 11/24/2006
Msg: 1205
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Posted: 2/3/2008 3:40:40 PM
There are very nice guys out there I'm sure,
and personally I don't lump all men together,
nor should they ,
we are all individuals.
not just bodies,or bots,they have a special im at yahoo for botts,lol,
and to assume anything is a mistake.
I try to clear up from the start to save guys and myself time
and understand any future situations,
such as I don't cyber,sex cam.phone sex.etc.
I'm just the average woman.
online dating can be fun,
but people need to realize 'esp'men need to realize,
that online dating is not a porn site,
it's just people wanting to know other people.
Personally I perfer to see a photograph,
which helps to some degree of giving a person a idea of who they are,
not as in a contest,or receiving porn without request.
but to see a nice smile,
and friendly eyes.
Internet dating doesn't suck,
or we wouldn't be here,
but what does suck is the occasional person
that you come across that doesn't know how
to treat other people .
 Born2bewild62

Joined: 4/8/2007
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Posted: 2/3/2008 4:03:29 PM
It's not so rosy on the other side either. I've met or talked to quite a few ladies who would argue otherwise. Also there is the matter of biology. Time really is on our side!
JF
 judyarlinepuckett

Joined: 11/24/2006
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Posted: 2/3/2008 5:06:27 PM
not sure time is on my side..lol.
but it's nice to have someone really interested in the complete person.
cybering etc could become a 24/7 unpaid job..haha..
I like some romance..
well that's about it for me..
Hope everyone on the site at the very least finds new friendships.
 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 11/16/2006
Msg: 1208
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Posted: 2/3/2008 5:39:53 PM

because the players do not mention sex and we think gee maybe a genuine man who is not a sex talking sleaze and then bingo we get the pee wee picture. thats my point if we had any indication we would have ignored him before then.


That's the point: she SAID that his torso shot (neck-to-waist) was "inappropriate" (can't remember the exact word), and invited him to send a face shot. Why she even gave him another chance is beyond me.


and sadly, genuine men have to take the brunt of all of it, so don't get irked at the women, get irked at the players for ruining your chances with ladies.


One thing's for sure: "Playahs" got game, and they don't waste their time arguing on forums, but just chasing down and victimizing (some) women. A guy sending you a picture of his pee-pee is not a "playah", and it's not a traumatic incident: he's a crude (probably drunk) @$$hole, and it's a crappy thing to be on the receiving end of, but please. Show a little perspective. It's not a world-shattering event.

Arlo
 nanjan

Joined: 9/3/2007
Msg: 1209
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Posted: 2/3/2008 7:33:32 PM
have you ACTUALLY read ANYTHING written by anybody here? You certainly haven't let it register. If you don't like what's happening, it might be a good idea to do something about it.

Two-way street. Maybe if you chose to change your attitude about dating in general, you might have a little more success. But if you are just going to go on and on about how awful it is for guys without even giving what the rest of us are telling you a chance, you will never win.

It does seem that you are going to continue what you think no matter what--good luck with that. And, by the way, how has that been working for you??!!
 U812soic

Joined: 10/16/2007
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Posted: 2/3/2008 8:37:10 PM
Finally, some robust dialogue.
 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 11/16/2006
Msg: 1211
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:17:54 AM

I might get 5 email every 4 or 5 months and 4 are usually the men that I say i am not interested in acording to my profile, so all women do not get a plethora of responses.
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Youd get more replies if you posted picks fifi47..


Even WITHOUT a picture, she's getting more emails than I'M getting, and I DO have a picture posted.

Just a question: when a guy asks you for a coffee meet, do you automatically assume that he wants a pound of your flesh, is looking for a brood-mare/sex-slave/surrogate mother for his kids, or has other sneaky motives? Or do you think that maybe he just wants to spend a half-hour or so getting to know you, and if there's no "click", hey, no harm-no foul.

Arlo
 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 11/16/2006
Msg: 1212
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:21:13 AM
Two-way street. Maybe if you chose to change your attitude about dating in general, you might have a little more success. But if you are just going to go on and on about how awful it is for guys without even giving what the rest of us are telling you a chance, you will never win.


Sorry, I missed all the advice I was obviously given. I must have been distracted by all the slanging going on. What, exactly, was that helpful advice again?


It does seem that you are going to continue what you think no matter what--


Nope. I'm going to continue to think what I think unless and until I'm presented with compelling evidence to think otherwise. Such has not been presented yet.


And, by the way, how has that been working for you??!!


Thanks for your compassion and understanding. Kick people when they're down often, do you?

Arlo
 blueeyedgirl42

Joined: 12/7/2007
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Posted: 2/4/2008 3:29:35 PM
It's useless to debate it, Arlo.......it's like beating your head against a wall. (Never a good choice!)

I think the pros/cons are the same for men and women, but some will endlessly declare that they have it worse than the other. I've gotten about what I expected out of internet dating. A couple dates and a few good friends, but NOT the love of my life. He may be out there, though.......

I think everyone gets out of this what they put into it and should remember not to be so judgmental if they expect not to be judged.

Jill :)
 wild heart

Joined: 10/14/2007
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:03:24 PM
Actually, it's the same old....everyone has it tougher than YOU. Some people automatically think they have had everything tougher than someone else.

"Suck it up princess" lol.

Seriously everyone has it tough to some degree and yes even the "hot" people I would guess, There are all sorts of people in the world and ANYONE can get taken advantage of.

Personally, I think it's hardest for the first generation of children of divorce/working moms etc. The whole world was adjusting to this and even now it's not completely "fixed". Just to give some examples: working moms continue to feel guilty about working and not being a full time mom. Men are afraid of commitment based on what happened to mom and dad. I think realizing these facts is very important and perhaps even a part of self-discovery and perhaps goes into understanding your "dating behaviour".

It is difficult to break free of our parents' influence. Who invented the rules that men have to contact women? Hmmmm, seems like we got that from our parents now didn't we?

Many women on here do contact men. In fact I'm one of them and I have been rejected more times than not. Pfft.

 subhacker

Joined: 11/30/2006
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:06:53 PM
No, the pros are cons are not the same and people saying they is part of what keeps this silly thread going.

Women may not their situation, just as men dislike theirs but they are not equivalent. Women have the option of being passive and, thus, have much less invested in the process. Most men do not have this option. They must initiate again and again and again to get anything at all.
 blueeyedgirl42

Joined: 12/7/2007
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:18:02 PM

Women have the option of being passive and, thus, have much less invested in the process. Most men do not have this option. They must initiate again and again and again to get anything at all.


This is so ridiculous.......

Men have the option of being passive as well as women do. I send emails and am ignored/deleted just like everyone else. If you are, as you say "invested", you maybe need to learn, as a girl who dated one of my friends said, to manage your expectations. I don't expect that every man I contact will be interested......but I'm making an effort.

 subhacker

Joined: 11/30/2006
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:28:05 PM
It's not ridiculous. It's reality. The occasional woman sending the occasional first contact message doesn't change the situation.

Time and energy invested has nothing to do with managing expectations.
 bucsgirl

Joined: 5/13/2006
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:32:43 PM
"It's not ridiculous." To you...ridiculousness (heck it's a word now..haha) of anything is strictly a personal opinion, not a statement of fact. You're entitled to your opinion same as everyone but stating it was an opinion may be better.

It all boils down to men don't know what it's like to be women and vice versa. Whether it's internet dating or anything else. We're faced with different situations and although some can explain and maybe understand, they haven't experienced it.

So unless you guys want to shave your legs........ Ugh, please don't!

It's an argument because it's a difference of opinion only. You can't argue facts.
 velocityflier

Joined: 9/23/2007
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:43:33 PM
Amen brother. I have been on here for 8 months and females look at my profile but when I tried to contact them, I look at sent msg and all it say is read deleted on 97% of them. Others just read and leave. It sucks and its pretty sad. I dont think they have interest either and its pretty sad. You are right, it is bull sh^t. I'm sure wierdos and desperate guys on here have no problem sending tons of emails a day to girls but thats a different story. Needless to say, I agree with you 110%.
 chickalina

Joined: 12/5/2007
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:46:12 PM
Brother can you spare a dime. Ya know it sure isn't easy for a lot of us women either. If we aren't all barbie dolls then forget about it. No one wants anyones mind nowadays and what does pretty or handsome have to do with that person. I surely wouldn't want to date anyone who thought they were cuter than me. These beautiful people have no clue what is going on in the world becqause to them it is all about "them" Be honest with the person you are talking to. Don't rush right in and tell them how handsome you think you are - that is a total turnoff right there. Talk pleasant and don't come out with a sex question in the second sentence. You will find the person you want but try to find someone who is normal looking - there are plenty of us out there waiting to talk with someone nice.
 lexibest

Joined: 12/7/2007
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:48:04 PM
Everyone has made some good points...where is the guy that started this thread!!?? lol
 oldman71

Joined: 3/12/2006
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:56:08 PM
Judyarlinepuckett I have to agree with. She is one of the very few ladies that I have talked to here that has a handle on this. I mean the dating site. We are all here because there is a certain lonliness in our lives. True you have some men here that this is there chance to play someone,or say or do things they would not have the face to do in person. The number of actually looking is far more greater than the players. You women have to understand most men are afraid of you and by that I mean rejection.
If you do not respon to a message for whatever reason. The man is suppose to take the hint and vice versa. Judyarlinepuckett Thank you just had to say it.
 Cheek2

Joined: 4/28/2007
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Posted: 2/4/2008 4:59:02 PM
Internet dating does have it's down moments. Let's just say I get responses and hopefully I am in the top catagory of those who do get responses. I do get women who seek me out and write to me. Once I have made that date or two or three with someone and we just seem to be heading somewhere, there she goes! So many men,... they can bounce right to the next guy it is really just a matter of moments. I have to tell you though. I do keep it honest and real. They say goodbye and come back because it wasn't what they thought. The problem is ladies that we hate it when people do that to us and if most guys are like me, once bitten and twice shy we never go back for more pain. Treat us as if you met us in the grocery store and you are not dating or seing anyone else. Give it a shot and stop looking for the next upgrade!
 seeking_soulmate

Joined: 6/12/2006
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Posted: 2/4/2008 5:00:36 PM
Well i agree , woman just want it all , it never changes , i have done my share of dating , and , i think that times have changed , i am not homly or the best looking man out there , but i know how overly pickey woman are , i could be a millionaire and it would not change . funny now how a lesser attractive woman has turned me down , even though i have dated some pretty ones in the past ,but it is not about that , the whole surface thing to me is so over rated , i dont even respond to attractive women , and if they have not much to say , in text and show me some kind of depth ,and intelligence ,then i will respond if i am intrigued by her ad . but man internet dating is a joke i do agree . im not a bar or club person , so besides personals , what is there ? . what ever happened to being respected for who you are , your unique qualities , your family values , your sense of humor , and being a gentleman , who gives alot of respect . well any advice , women seem clueless to what they want , it seems to never change .
 amusedguy

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Posted: 2/4/2008 5:26:00 PM
Hey... if everyone you walked up to and said.. hey... I think you're "hot" said.. ok...I think you're hot too... we'd probably be extinct by now. because life would be boring. And evetually.. everyone would lose all intrest in anything sexual.
Its all a game, and its hard for everyone...BUT... its like life... you get knocked down.. you stand back up...and walk again.
I think we all find ourselves where we just don't want to be.... which is lonely. And I think we all see this as a hopefully quick fix to that dilema...in that we can contact and hopefully show some part of ourselves to a special person.
Are there less than honorable people here? You betcha... but.. they are also in churches..and bars... and parks. ..etc etc. So when one say no.. you just keep trying. Don't paint everyone with broad strokes. Up until now... you folks ( male or female) that doesn't like how its going for you... you're just like me. Wishing to find someone as fabulaous as I am! Laffs
Anyways.... yes I wish it were all easy.... but I think in matters of the heart.... its all difficult. So we should all keep open minds and hearts... and just when you're certain you'll never find love... it may knock you down. Just be ready to accept it and enjoy it.
Oh.. and yeppers.. I'm a newbie! Hello everyone! I'm Loren
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