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Posted: 12/4/2005 12:10:04 PM | I had a picture up 'too much junk in my trunk' style for 24 hours...and alas, the point that you get more emails and IM's is true (which is pretty obvious)...but if i worked out a percentage that was not smutty, was probably 5%
I agree with a comment made earlier, we cant all fancy eachother....some women like short, balding, overweight guys. Thats what makes life a hoot.
I have had such a laugh on this site so far, that I think its the best thing to be taken from it...anything other than that is a bonus....
now for the laugh
on another site I had a guy message me and say 'I realise that single moms and students usually have financial problems. So I wondered if you would consider selling your dirty knickers (panties)?'
another message saying 'I like being stepped on. For £20 each would you and your mates step on me one at a time?'
and the worst was 'I am a 67 year old man with 6 weeks to live. My wife no longer does it for me. I was mugged by a young lady the other week and it turned me on. Could you make dying man happy and be mean to me?' (four weeks later he messaged me with the exact same message!!)
These messages go no way to helping my single status, but my gosh do i get lots of giggles out of them!! | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/4/2005 2:17:17 PM | Hmmmm, sorry OP, but it is EXACTLY the same for women! We have to put up with the same crap. Your profile says nothing about you. Not all pretty women are stuck-up, and not all average looking women are nice....same is true for men. That is just stereotypical crap! Have some confidence in yourself and project that in your profile....maybe you will get more responses.... | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/4/2005 8:17:28 PM | | Well Here is what i do in my profile and I know it's a new thing nowadays here it is TELL THE TRUTH ok I don't know about all the fancy stuff that gets girls to reply and to be honest if ya don't like who I am I can tell ya no sleep will be lost that some girl didn't message me back,who cares move on whats the saying plenty of fish yeah thats it lol take care all | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/5/2005 10:23:41 AM | POF had a little ad here recently that said "40% of the women who leave POF do so with a boyfriend", or something along those lines.
I ran a little rough survey of the number of ads here on POF, and they run about 10 men for every one woman. Which means that if the statistic above is true, then it's also true that:
"4% of the men who leave POF do so with a girlfriend."
Food for thought. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/5/2005 11:28:25 AM | The OP's profile is moronic. No wonder why no one answer the OP's e-mail. First, put up a picture. Most women want a posted picture, you saw hers so she only wants what's fair. Second describe yourself in your profile. Anybody can send a canned e-mail response to someone; if you cannot describe yourself on a public forum like this, you send out vibes that you have something to hide.
More importantly, I think this internet dating phenomena has gotten too big. There are lots of men trolling for sexual favors. There are lots of women who probably aren't getting lots of hits because they didn't post a photo that makes them look like a model. Those of us guys (and perhaps women too) who aren't getting much attention, it's likely because we're sending messages to people that are getting hundreds of messages every week.
Not on POF but another site: going back like three years ago, I could correspond quite easily with women via the internet. I think what's happened is the general seedy quality of the average guy on the internet today scares off most of the women on the internet who might be attracted to a normal guy. I seem to be reading that often from the female POFers. Us regular, normal, respective males have our hapless brothers to thank for the lackluster number of responses to our genuine inquiries.
A message for the ladies: if you are receiving a lackluster number of inquiries, and you haven't initiated any e-mails, I strongly suggest initiating a correspondence. I think the typical dating ritual-like thing is to have the men pursue; so ladies, if you are not meeting the kind of guy you want to meet, be the one to send the first e-mail. Just don't wait for fate to happen. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/5/2005 1:19:10 PM | | You say it's easy for woman..My friend you are so wrong. Even if you do see a man you are attracted to more times than not they are not what they seem. And if you do actually start a conversation with them for some reason men on line think it is ok to ask a woman (LADY) sexual and personal questions. If thats what your into go for it but it's wrong to insult and degrade woman on line by treating them as cyber sluts... You never know who you may be passing by...peace | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/5/2005 4:17:33 PM |
I ran a little rough survey of the number of ads here on POF, and they run about 10 men for every one woman
It's probably more like 8 men for each woman, but who is counting? This is the problem why IT DOES SUCK FOR MEN, and any guy that says contrary is full of sheet. I had a great profile up on this for about a year, with horrible results.
It's not my looks or my money. I am rated between an 8 and 9 on hotornot. And about a 4 on this which is not bad for a GUY. I also live in Beverly Hills, with a solid income. Of course my profile was very complete and honest.
It is the N U M B E R S pure and simple. Supply and demand. Same reason the NASDAQ sore to the stratosphere and then crashed. Same as real estate prices now going through the roof. These odds give the few pretty young women with no children on dating sites a HUGE amount of choices. And believe me there are very few on here. Even less than on "paid" dating sites. And almost every woman on this over the age of 30 has at least one child. Where did the husband go?? Maybe he joined POF? Even "bottom barrel" girls get a sizable amount of attention as the huge amount of men slowly lower their standards.
So guys, saddle up that rejection horse and enjoy the ride! | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/6/2005 12:57:50 AM | | Am I to take from the above post that women under 30, pretty, with no children are the cream of the crop? And if so (I agreed with many of your points so I am curious), clarify for me what would classify as the bottom of the barrell?lol | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/6/2005 2:54:08 AM | The thing is, to women it's like "Being a kid in a Candy store", then get slammed with emails, and of course sometimes looking for the bigger better deal (BBD).
Like an average guy could email her, she probably will respond initially, but even perhaps a guy that's taller, better looking or whateve reason, will email her right after you, then she'll respond to him, and in the future, ignore you.
They probably sit there in their inbox, scrolling through thinking this...."Delete...delete....delete.....delete...oooo , he's cute, I'll keep him....delete ....delete..."
What I wonder if anyone can answe rme this...since online men are so easily available for her, do you think she'd be shallow to pass up a guy in real life, as opposed to the 100's of men she rejects or ignores monthly?
Since men in real life aren't as plentiful online? | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/6/2005 10:41:55 AM | The OP has yet to address the issue of his lacklustre profile and lack of photos...
I think the bottom line with this whole scene is to not take it too seriously. Personally, I'm mostly here for the forums. I don't particularly expect to find a partner on here, nor do I really care...if it happens, it happens. I stopped getting frustrated about it a long time ago because it's an energy drainer.
And I have my standards too. We all have standards...the same guys who are pissing and moaning that they haven't found anyone are probably the same ones who pass over about 95% of the women on here as they go for the "cream of the crop", the really good-looking, younger women. And then get pissed off when they don't land 'em. It's a vicious cycle... | |
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Posted: 12/6/2005 2:24:34 PM |
clarify for me what would classify as the bottom of the barrell?lol
OK, well pretty much the opposite I guess. Overweight, children, over 30, overall ugly appearance.
Keep in mind, even these women can be quite picky simply because of the male to female ratio. Well maybe not "as" picky.
I have witnessed this first hand. I had an online friend who was way overweight, glasses, not atttractive at all (no kids though) but she had guys saying that she is the most beutiful thing they have ever seen. Again, the problem just not enough available women so you take what you can get.
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/7/2005 3:22:06 AM | John!!! lol
I am a single mom in my twenties. I have one son..he spends every sat night with his dad...so I am lucky in that way.
I personally don't feel that my equivalant who doesn't have children is better than me...though I would sgree that its a big talking poingt for me if a guy wants to date me, because two guys I have dated in the past have been jealous of me loving my own son (and admitted it!!)
I do get some messages online...not as much as at first, but that is natural. But hardly any that lead anywhere. Though i have made many friends lol (thats doesn't mean sexual!!pmsl)
So (she asks with her breath held) am I the bottom of the barrell John? (bearing in mind, BBW, single mom, student, 24, Birmingham lol)  | |
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Posted: 12/7/2005 7:25:19 PM | Have a couple of comments, TO Hambone, that's a great comparison "like a kid in a candy store" its exactly how it is for at least the "high demand" women.
Imagine, when she is clicking that delete key EVERY ONE OF THOSE GUYS ARE ALMOST A CERTAIN POTENTIAL DATE!! What is at least interesting in my own situation is that the last 3 relationships (if you can even call them that) I have got from online dating the girl initiated contact. I have had maybe 100 dates over the years from when I initiated contact, but they never went beyond the first date. This is the candy store theory, or once they met me I did not quite live up to their expectations and they knew when they got home there would be at least 20 emails of new prospects in their Inbox. You never know, it could have been the slightest thing that got you canned, like you forgot to shave that morning.
I admit, part of the problem is that I do go for the prettiest girls around. I know its a bad habit but I can't help it. I have always dated them, so I wont go backwards.
TO Amazon, hey hang in there! You know, there is plenty of debris in the barrel below you here on POF! But I have to be honest, you are far from one of the "high demand" women, sorry to say.
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Posted: 12/8/2005 12:47:39 AM | Agree totally. The reason being those women that are online find themselves in a position where too many men are chasing them and hence have unrealisticly high standards. Usually superficial. The fact that women are underrepresented online works to their advantage. The way out is to stop looking online and look for women in real life.
Also asking this to women online is pointless. You wont get a rational hearing. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/8/2005 6:23:20 AM | well thank you for replying, John. That did make me giggle. And I am not insulted, because I understand how market value works.
I get a fair amount of male on here and other sites. But after taking part in the thread about the guy settling for obese girls, I am starting to get paranoid!!lol
I get a variation of emails on here. Some are from muglies, while others are from sex Gods.
I have to agree with you guys, that online dating does make a lot of people a bit superficial, who would't othrwise be. They reject average Joe's, because a couple of Adonis's have contacted them the day before. It's not fair on generally nice guys.
Well, I am just going to clean out my barrell, to make the ottom a bit more comforatble...
Or alternatively, go to weight watchers, have my son adopted and finish my degree so I am earning a lot of money...all before I am 30!!....if I don't get the pent house of the barrell then...I will not be a happy bunny!!lol  | |
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Posted: 12/11/2005 1:54:21 AM | LoL
thank you John...it takes humour being a Brummie (a native of the city of Birmingham, UK) and living at the bottom of the Barrell (with the great unwashed)...Jokes and laughter are what get me through the day...
Now if i could just manage to get a bunk up on the one eyed womans wheelchair, I might be able to get a bit higher up in this damn barrell  | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 12/12/2005 6:53:10 PM | Learn to be attractive through a womans eyes.
Not just one woman, all women.
Secondly women are more attracted to personaitly.
Not looks.I am not saying women dont like sexy men , but they like someone that can make them feel good inside.
If something dont work , try another method. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 1/2/2006 12:53:46 AM | ,,SO THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT,, MAKE THE LADY'S LAUGH,, GIVE THEM THAT SEXY SMILE,, WELL MEN,, IT WORKED FOR ME,, HE'S MY MAGIC....SMILE,,, | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 1/2/2006 3:06:08 AM | H E L L O? Either I am living in an alternative universe or it's my great age - but me and my friends on this and other sites have yet to experience this fabled surplus of decent men. Yes we do block and delete - the toy boys, the (very) old folks, the pervs and the guys just after another notch on the bedpost. That leaves very little. And we even make the first move sometimes. Yes it has been known!
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 3/4/2006 5:21:41 AM | I think that you could be right about the picture thing. I dont even have a good quality pic up and i get emails. But....most of the men live 2 hours away. Also it is hard for me as a woman to look at a picture and be "attracted" to someome. I know as far as i am concerned I am afraid to actually meet anyone from the internet bc only 1 guy has looked like his pic, and he was nuttier than i thought. I think most women are shallow ****es. So here is some advice. Chances are if you are pursuing a really hot girl who is a ten so shes probably a stuck up **** who would treat you badly anyway. Unless you are a 10 yourself. If you were (or are) a 10 you'd be rude to her as well. Its 7am and my coffee hasnt kicked in,,,am i making sense?
I have come across quite a few really nice guys who i am not attracted to physically. Although the last guy who broke my heart i knew for 2 years before I found him attractive. I am finding the same problem. The better looking the guy the crappier his personality. I think people should have more picnic type get togethers for singles and meet that way. Face to face. Just seems like there are an aweful lot of single lonely people out there who are not connecting.
In the us most of us judge potential mates on looks (i myself included). Its crappy, but who wants to kiss or u-know -what with someone who they arent attracted to, unless you want to have beer goggles 24/7. | |
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