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 golfnut007

Joined: 5/4/2008
Msg: 1576
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Posted: 5/10/2008 6:37:35 AM
Just felt that I wanted to respond to this thread in general. If pof works better for women than men then you women must be having an awesome time.

I have met several great ladies through pof and the only reason that I am not with any of them currently has to do with the fact that I am pretty unsettled in my life right now and keep moving around.
 outofthedesert

Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 1577
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Posted: 5/10/2008 6:50:28 AM

I'm sure most of the women looked at his height (5'7", same as mine) and decided to overlook him because he's not the required 5'10" or taller


I guess I overlooked the height because that is not a requirement with me. I have dated men 5'6 to 6'6. I am interested in the content of the man and the height is a side thing. If it does not bother him that I stand 5'10 in heels, it does not bother me, because when the clothes and shoes are off---all the parts fit.
 yellier35

Joined: 2/16/2006
Msg: 1578
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Posted: 5/10/2008 8:17:48 AM

Very untrue. You could have a PhD in literature.....and write the most fantastic and compelling thing in an initial email or profile...and still get the "Unread Delete"

Men here used to write such emails, eventually they just keep it all short and sweet so that they don't waste time and cramp their hands typing up compelling emails/profiles.


I agree 5 million percent!! Wait, shouldn't be 0-100 percent hahah. I used to type long winded emails and very thoughtful mind you but now its about a paragraph. I love the profiles that state if you have 6 spelling errors I wont contact you. baahahahah, that is just to0 funny.


yeller, your profile is great, handsome photos, if the gals are not responding---they are not what you are seeking anyway.

We all get the same reaction, I wonder why so many are on there anyway. Just to kill time and waste ours...............it is a free site and a free country..............and so it goes.


Thanks for the compliments. :). I think they dont respond due to the mass amounts of emails. I have the same problem from time to time. Dont get a single email then get like 10 or more..haha, hard to keep up sometimes.

I wish this site would advertise more some how so get more people. I never knew about this site and found it by luck.


Yeah, he's got a very good profile. However, I'm sure most of the women looked at his height (5'7", same as mine) and decided to overlook him because he's not the required 5'10" or taller. If he went to a non-Anglophone country he'd probably do a lot better with the women there.


Awww man so I am considered a midget aww schucks haha. Well, I make up for my height in other areas heheh. I usually wear stilts on first dates so I am really about 7'1 hahah.non-Anglophone country, ooo where is this place?


is it biology or just the way we were taught?

I think its both. Shoot, I just had a date the other day and she would not let me pay. and opended doors for me. haha, I was like hmmm thats really ackward. haha.

yeah, I dont think its a height issue for me though. Hate to say it though but whatever. I am thin and weigh about 185(Muscle not a fatty haha.) so for me being 5'7 and 185 its hard to find a woman that compliments my stature. I feel the woman should be around the same height(nothing extreme) and smaller than the man. Thats not too bad of a requirement though. Haha, i dont want to be the woman in the relationship. Although I bet that could get interesting hehe.
 yellier35

Joined: 2/16/2006
Msg: 1579
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Posted: 5/10/2008 8:23:19 AM
I would love to date a giant!! haha. I secretly have a requirement that the woman must be 7'10 hahaha. and thats a must and I can't live with out that. Just love to stand on a ladder to smooch. haha.


because when the clothes and shoes are off---all the parts fit.
O man im screwed then moohahaha.
 jf468

Joined: 12/4/2007
Msg: 1580
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Posted: 5/10/2008 9:01:23 AM
you can have an awesome profile but if I am not attracted to your photos posted there is nothing you can do.


IMO people shoudn't reject other people just because they have a mediocre photo of themselves. As mentioned by other posters, you can't always tell how good looking a person is from a few pictures. Photos are still 2-d shots that just give a broad idea of what someone looks like. Some people aren't photogenic and could be more attractive in person.
 yellier35

Joined: 2/16/2006
Msg: 1581
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Posted: 5/10/2008 9:38:59 AM

IMO people shoudn't reject other people just because they have a mediocre photo of themselves. As mentioned by other posters, you can't always tell how good looking a person is from a few pictures. Photos are still 2-d shots that just give a broad idea of what someone looks like. Some people aren't photogenic and could be more attractive in person.


I agree. I was told I look better in person than my photos. For me, a mediocre photo is fine but if there is no physical attraction at all then chatting and all that fun stuff isnt going to change anything. I am realistic though!! In my experience, I have gone on a few dates with crappy photos and they have always looked 10 times worse. But that is my experince.
 ffldbp

Joined: 10/28/2007
Msg: 1582
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Posted: 5/10/2008 9:47:47 AM
Well, it's hard to tell if you're a good looking white guy or whatever without a pic.

LOL Do you really think good looking women are any different when they are out in public, just because you can see them up closer?????

Everyone wants a few steps or more up above what they have or have had. Are you willing to do what it takes to get there? Change your habits, your outlook, clothes, etc.....

More than likely no.

While all the women I go out with are good looking and intelligent, even I know just how far I'm willing to go to get what I want. And there are limits to that.

Moaning, pissing and groaning won't get you there. Try to do what it takes first.

Marcus
 Loz Hunter

Joined: 7/13/2006
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Posted: 5/10/2008 10:00:02 AM
Wrong wrong wrong! Sorry but you are wrong here.

There are men and women who want to date and do date on this site.

There are men and women who do reply to all their messages.

And for some of us it is not a game, we are actively looking for a partner to share the good times and the bad with.

Some of us dont tell lies, and dont have false pictures up.

So this is all just your opinion - not fact. Good luck
 almondcookie

Joined: 6/28/2006
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Posted: 5/10/2008 3:59:33 PM
IMO people shoudn't reject other people just because they have a mediocre photo of themselves. As mentioned by other posters, you can't always tell how good looking a person is from a few pictures. Photos are still 2-d shots that just give a broad idea of what someone looks like. Some people aren't photogenic and could be more attractive in person.


Some of the most photogenic people don't look as stunning in person as they do in photos or they look VERY different in person than they do on camera. The camera likes angles and some peope (some models for example) have very severe features when you see them in person. I don't know if we can mention names but I will give 2 examples. If you've ever seen the blonde actress who appears in the Preference commercials and who played Hillary Duff's mother in The Perfect Man in person, you'll know what I am talking about. She is not ugly but I didn't even recognize her or realize who she was until I was TOLD who she was. She looked VERY different in person. Her photo on wallpapergate.com is closer to how she looks in person but still isn't 100% what I remember seesin.

Also, I want say her name but the Canadian model who won Ford's Model fo the Year when she was only 14 is VERY plain looking in person but she photograhs beautifully. I could name names and give other examples but then you would all think I was being mean.
 Eddie2704

Joined: 3/27/2008
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Posted: 5/11/2008 3:05:27 AM
You know, I am beginning to think this picture thing is right. For almost a year i had a blurry pic up. I got responses left and right. Even got some dates. But now that i have put up clear pictures taken with my web cam i have noticed that i am no longer getting the responses i once was. There is one thing that i have found true on this site. There seems to be more shallow people than i realized. It seems when i had my blurry pic up the women were more willing to talk to me and find out a little about me. In other words they were not going by my looks first. It seems they were finding something they liked about me in the conversations we were having. But, Now that they can see me better there going by my looks first and not who i am. But, That's OK, I really don't care. I tend to gravitate away from people like that anyway.
 Eddie2704

Joined: 3/27/2008
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Posted: 5/11/2008 3:23:07 AM

Wrong wrong wrong! Sorry but you are wrong here.

There are men and women who want to date and do date on this site.

There are men and women who do reply to all their messages.

And for some of us it is not a game, we are actively looking for a partner to share the good times and the bad with.

Some of us dont tell lies, and dont have false pictures up.

So this is all just your opinion - not fact. Good luck

Loz Hunter
To a point your right. But all i have to go by is what i see and what i read here on the forums.Yes, There may be a small amount of men and women on here that truly are looking for a potential mate. But from the best i can tell most of the people here seem like there here just to play games. This read/delete/ignore thing is way out of hand. Every week i see in the forums where men leave POF because there tired of being ignored. 10 left that i know of this week that have been here for 2 years and longer. Every week that goes by more and more men leave. Reason i know this is because there dumb enough to post it here in the forums. Me, I wouldn't let anybody know i left. I would just leave. But, Anyway, There seems to be more that never return a message than there are that do. As far as getting dates. Men post on here all the time that they have been here X amount of time and never get one date. Just read/delete/ ignore.
By the way, I saw a thread the other day. It said, " Where have all the good men gone" I didn't post to that thread but i did want to say, "The read/delete/ ignore people are running them off.
 Fifi47

Joined: 8/19/2004
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Posted: 5/11/2008 6:50:04 AM
I might get 10 responses in one year (my profile is being reconstructed so that was when I had an informative profile).....so internet dating is not good for all women, as it is not bad for all men. 9 of the responses seem to be sex seekers or married men, and the other one thought that 50 miles apart was a long distance relationship or he lived in Europe or on the west coast and wanted a email friend. I am basically here for the forums.
 Angels Eyes

Joined: 10/11/2007
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Posted: 5/11/2008 9:36:51 AM
So ... yes, it is quite difficult to find a gentleman my age who wants anything close to a monogamous relationship ... or even a marriage.



Yes you got that correct for sure Cotter, But i have talked to a few that say they want more but wow if you hold back your out if you give in your out and I'm not saying women are perfect can only judge by my own experiences. I am sure men don't have it easy or should I say some don't. I did start coming to dating sites to meet hopefully someone I can share my life with.And I admit I can be naive
but still looking and do most of the time answer an email and often email first.Not to just the tens necessarily, as anyone I talk to are 9s and 10s in my book because I have yes seen there pics but more than that read there info or looked in their eyes and liked what I saw and wanted to know more.Sometimes I'm still not sure if this is the best place for a dreamer but I keep trying and it is better than going to the bar scene.I wish all the men and women on here good luck in finding what they want as long as the person they find it with wants the same thing no one gets hurt.
 SweetieGuy_81

Joined: 12/25/2005
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Posted: 5/11/2008 6:45:56 PM
I agree Eborys completely.

all women do is just look good and wait.

i would like the women to get off their butts and do something, it is the 21st century, so they can make the first move now.

The way i see it, alot of women play hard to get, you could buck up all your courage to ask out a woman you find attractive or interesting and she could shoot you down in a second, even though they want to date you just as much, they just want to see how much you will try.

but the difference with me, is if she says no the first time, i move on and i never give her another chance, even if she says no and sees me moving on and tries it on with me later in the night....she lost her chance when she says no or some other form of no.

If you are interested, say so, stop playing games like a child and act like an adult...thats what i think.
 ebre1

Joined: 5/13/2008
Msg: 1590
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Posted: 5/16/2008 3:50:47 PM
I agree, largely sucks for guys. I don't really know what 99% of the women on these sites want.... but a proper relationship it isn't.

I can only assume that they're on an ego trip with all the emails & chats they get.

Saying that, I've rejected the vast majority women who've contacted me, so it's not all one way.
 blueeyedgirl42

Joined: 12/7/2007
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Posted: 5/17/2008 7:05:27 AM

Most women won't even look at my profile if I send them a first contact.


She may be looking at your profile and just have her settings blocking people from seeing that she has viewed her profile. Early on, I made that change to my settings, because it seemed as if the act of viewing a profile was an invitation to send one of those "hey baby" kind of emails. When someone sends me an email, I look at his profile first to determine if we might be compatible, then I know how to answer his email.

I will say this (not referring to the above referenced quote).....part of the problem with internet dating (for BOTH genders) is that when you first join any site, it can be like feeding time at the shark tank....FRESH MEAT!! That initial wave of emails COULD lead a person of either gender to feel they will continue to have more choices and thus to reject or ignore anyone they may feel they are completely or marginally incompatible with. When I put my profile up here and on other sites, I experienced this phenomenon. Yes....at first I WAS getting 15-20 new emails a day. Now I might get one every couple of weeks, and that's fine. The emails I DO get now are mostly form men who have actually taken the time to read my profile and determine we might have a thing or 2 in common. I'd much prefer that.
 theblueeyes

Joined: 4/21/2008
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Posted: 5/17/2008 7:18:06 AM
hi not your attractivness at all !

what kind ofjob you have [money ]

what you like to do [money sgain ]
where you like to travel [ AGAIN MONEY ]


ARE WE SEEING A PATTERN ! IF YOU WANT TO BE A GOOD TIME CHARLIE AND SPEND ALL YOUR BREAD OR IF YOUR AFFLUENT SOME OF YOUR BREAD , THEN YOU will get laid ! amazing the women who wouldnt talk to you if you were dirty [got stuck n fixed your car ] then went home and put on a sports jacket nice slacks and shoes the same women who smugged you will now be all over you without you talking to them ! dont beleave me !??? try it sometime in nice meeting hole you will be surprised as i was !
 1missblueeyes

Joined: 4/2/2008
Msg: 1593
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Posted: 5/17/2008 7:36:02 AM
Oh boo hoo! It sucks for women too. We have to deal with pervs sending us pics of their****, sexually suggestive emails, guys wanting to jump down our pants, liars, cheaters, players, getting stood up, guys canceling out our date at the last minute and making up an excuse, to name a few.

This woman focuses on a guy's personality, not his looks. Personality is important to me. If he is a GQ type guy but has a horrible personality I won't date him or give him the time of day. I don't care how much money a guy has since I'm gainfully employed and have my own money. I look to see if he's mature, responsible, goal oriented, has a sense of humour, is decent, and if he is on the same page as me in terms of interests, values, beliefs, and morals. There is nothing wrong with a person having standards and carefully screening members of the opposite sex. Someone who does such and has standards is someone who knows what they want. And the biggie is he must be loyal or he will be shown the door and pretty fast. Some guys say they'll be loyal and they know what loyalty is but then they go and cheat.

Change your atttitude and perceptions about women from a negative to a positive and I'm sure you'll get tons of responses.
 bostonsportsgal789

Joined: 12/4/2007
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Posted: 5/17/2008 7:41:13 AM
Change your atttitude and perceptions about women from a negative to a positive and I'm sure you'll get tons of responses.


Not necessary. A man could have a great attitude and still get few responses if a woman doesn't like his pics.


This woman focuses on a guy's personality, not his looks.


Would you date a man that you think is physically unattractive because he has a great personality? If you would, then you are a rare exception. Most people care about looks to some degree. However some people care about looks more than others.
 El_Mariachi

Joined: 4/21/2007
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Posted: 5/17/2008 11:05:34 AM

you kno i would have to strongly disagree wit everything you have said. not only do women not make the first move. or first contact.


Ok, all knowing one.. I guess I've just hallucinated all the times I've contacted a guy here (or other sites) and hit on them in off-line type situations.

Good to know I'm a liar.


they all say the same thing. they want a "perfect man" guess what, there is no such thing.


Only idiots say that. Most of us know that there's no such thing as perfect. And furthermore, I've seen so many women on this forum say they aren't looking for perfect because it'd be boring if it existed, so I think you've got this whole selective reading thing going on. Or perhaps YOU are hallucinating.


Most of the emails I send (and none of them are to stereotypical pretty-boys with six packs who look like they take longer to get ready in the morning than I do) receive no answer.


Heh.. same here, oddly enough, yet do we (as women) start threads to whine about said set of circumstances? No.


Ironically, a common complaint stated by many women is that men only go after the hot women especially when he is average looking. I think that women are just as gulity of doing this.


Probably. I will tell you though, that it doesn't make one lick of difference in whether or not responses come back. Heh. Looks are totally subjective though.. who I send out messages to obviously was considered by me to be lovely... other women, upon viewing the same profile that enticed me may run screaming out their front doors.


see how women will behave without the attention they are so use to having..


For the women who get a lot of creepy e-mails, I suspect they'll be jumping for joy.


I think it is wrong for women to ASSume that a man is doing something "wrong" if he gets very few responses to his emails.


It is totally wrong. While sometimes, I'm sure it's possible that something is off-putting in a profile, I think 90% of the time it all boils down to lack of interest.

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why this is so hard for people to grasp. We will all be rejected way more than we won't be. Period.

This is my theory and so far, it's pretty bang on accurate. We can't just get EVERYTHING we want when we want it. Life isn't that way. Take comfort in the fact that while we don't get everything we want when we want it, we do still manage to get a lot.


Internet dating sites never have favored men, but that's a truth i've just learned to live with.


Not that I disagree with you, but I am curious to know how you think Net Dating Sites favor women?

I don't think they really favor anyone... particularly pay sites. At least here, you didn't blow a wad of cash and still end up dateless.


Dating is a woman's turf. This stuff's built into her. They are programmed to discard and reject men as efficiently and quickly as possible.


I cannot fathom at all why men aren't programmed just the same. And if they truly aren't, then why not? Makes no sense. Ya'll are just as capable of rejecting, deciding and/or pursuing as women.


The women who are saying that this site is not working for them are in the 50 and above age range and the BBWs.


Now that's rich. I'm not 50+ nor a BBW and this site's not doing a whole lot for me either. I stay for this forum thingie.
 reality guy

Joined: 2/13/2008
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Posted: 5/17/2008 2:44:34 PM
I've come up with an Internet dating formula for men. 90% of the time you will not get a reply from a woman. Out of the 10% who do reply, you will meet one or two of them. Those odds are pretty consistant for the average guy.
 Uncle_Enrico

Joined: 7/11/2006
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Posted: 5/17/2008 4:31:27 PM
It is deplorable how much it sucks for guys on dating sites


Remember that film in high school biology of all the little sperm wiggling their tails around the big egg? We may not have known it then, but we guys were getting a glimpse in our future on-line dating prospects.


 El_Mariachi

Joined: 4/21/2007
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Posted: 5/17/2008 5:30:31 PM

far too many miss fussies and miss pickies for this site to really work.


And I suppose no men are fussy? Hah.
 CSIAnaheim

Joined: 12/3/2007
Msg: 1599
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Posted: 5/17/2008 5:42:25 PM

And I suppose no men are fussy? Hah.

No, I'd have to say men are a hell of a lot less fussy on dating sites than women are. In fact, quite a lot of women on these very forums have had some disparaging comments about men they thought were sending out *too many* e-mails. Apparently we can't win! We're either fussy or we're not fussy enough!
 El_Mariachi

Joined: 4/21/2007
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Posted: 5/17/2008 5:47:51 PM
Well sorry, but given the lack of replies that I get when I make contact, I'm going to continue to believe that men are at least as fussy as women.

Being choosy isn't really a bad thing and I'd rather get no replies than get replies from guys willing to settle for me even though I'm not what they'd like in a mate, but let's be real. Women don't have the pick of the litter as it were any more than guys do.
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