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 Freedom has no price

Joined: 6/13/2008
Msg: 1853
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 6/23/2008 8:27:53 AM
this site is best for one thing: FORUMS

nothing else.

dating online is the biggest B* story ive ever heard of, in fact I should know ive tried many sites, many IMS, many chats, and still NOTHING

if anything I got the bad fishes: girls who took all kinds of drugs, girls who smoked too much, drank too much, too fat, and so on..........

look, I have my own life and the last thing I needed was anyones issues

and that is just mean: women using guys for food, you know what men: turn the tables! make em pay for your food sometimes! even the playing field lol
 Erik da Viking

Joined: 3/23/2008
Msg: 1854
Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:06:09 AM

(blueeyedgirl42) I realize that.....my POINT was that it sucks to have EVERYTHING click, and have one physical attribute be the deciding factor. I realize that you CAN do something about your weight and I'm working on mine.....


I don't think you do realize it, or you wouldn't have made the spurious connection between a physical attribute that you CAN control* (weight) with one you CAN'T control (height).

Arlo

* I realize that there are a few people whose weight is almost entirely beyond their control, and I agree: that sucks.
 fancynanci

Joined: 8/21/2007
Msg: 1855
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Posted: 6/23/2008 1:24:15 PM
Sorry you feel that way. I'm curious though...if it is that bad, why are you on this site?
 Frank821

Joined: 6/17/2007
Msg: 1856
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Posted: 6/23/2008 1:41:23 PM
Eborys, I STRONGLY agree with your position about how internet dating sucks for guys & is good for women. I've had the same experiences as you. First, there are more guys that do the internet dating sites than women. Second, the women that are available very rarely answer an e-mail a guy may send out. They have outrageous expectations like the guy must be handsome, wealthy, educated, strong but sensitive, established, well-traveled, great personality, someone who can fandango, wine & dine a woman, take her to Vegas, to Europe, Tahiti, etc. Another thing I've found is that there is a very big shortage of available women in Bergen & Passaic counties. Most of the women on the site are from towns in NJ I never heard of way far away. The women also will mention that the most important issue in their lives at the moment are their sons & daughters. Posting "Jack Daniel's Photos" is another common practice. 12 years old. There is a large amount of women in New York in places like Queens, Brooklyn, and other crime-ridden areas. A man would need an armoured vehicle with security to get in & out of those places alive. Besides, the women there all have an attitude anyway. It's like you said, this Plentyoffish site is just one BIG waste of time & effort!
 sparkle508

Joined: 2/7/2008
Msg: 1857
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Posted: 6/23/2008 1:53:29 PM
For men,its always. What do you really look like. When I say just like my picture ,the reply is your hot. Im wanted for sex and my looks. Im not happy with men,and their baser natures
Then when they hear I dont put out. I dont get a second date.
Im not interested in a guys looks, I want some0ne interested in loving me. Their is hope for us all. Sparkle
 sparkle508

Joined: 2/7/2008
Msg: 1858
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Posted: 6/23/2008 1:53:39 PM
For men,its always. What do you really look like. When I say just like my picture ,the reply is your hot. Im wanted for sex and my looks. Im not happy with men,and their baser natures
Then when they hear I dont put out. I dont get a second date.
Im not interested in a guys looks, I want some0ne interested in loving me. Their is hope for us all. Sparkle
 coca2

Joined: 2/17/2006
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Posted: 6/23/2008 1:57:00 PM
Let's face it internet dating can suck for men and women. Most guys have their similar complaints and most women have theirs. Some women write back, some don't . Same goes for the guys. ( I know) So lighten up. If it works, then great. If not, just take it with a grain of salt.
 celts123

Joined: 5/15/2008
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Posted: 6/23/2008 2:02:19 PM
This is what I wrote on msg 1719.


The problem with this is that many average looking men don't receive a lot of initial contacts. When they do, it is often from women who are much different than what he is looking for.


This is another poster's response to my statement.


You wouldn't be referring to "average" women would you? No...that would be hypocrisy...can't be...


My response to that. FYI, I wasn't referring to average looking women. I was referring to women who have characteristics that are obvious dealbreakers to me. Women who are much older ( such as 20-25 yrs ) than me, obese women, a single mother with 4 kids etc. Having average looks is NOT a dealbreaker.
 humoryou

Joined: 11/26/2006
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Posted: 6/23/2008 3:13:05 PM
I will bite on this one. Act like a gentleman on this site or anywhere else and you stand a better chance at getting a response.
At like a cad and you likely end up with no responses.
Not everyone responds to me or anyone else, be a grown up and move on.
If you did not learn manners earlier in life than learn them now and a woman here or anywhere else will appreciate it, that is if you really mean respect when you offer to open a door...
 Erik da Viking

Joined: 3/23/2008
Msg: 1862
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Posted: 6/23/2008 3:14:26 PM

(fancynanci) Sorry you feel that way. I'm curious though...if it is that bad, why are you on this site?


Some guys are just suckers for punishment, ya know?

Arlo
 STH III

Joined: 6/5/2008
Msg: 1863
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Posted: 6/23/2008 6:27:04 PM
yes it is true that women get more dating site action than men do. I have 3 daughters and have known quite a few women and they get a bunch of emails and I get very few and the few I get are usually women that I am not attracted to. I hear from some of the women I write to and have met quite a few online but most of them have too many issues. As far as men only wanting one thing and being dogs, sometimes may be true but most guys want a girlfriend or wife and steady love and sex rather than chasing women all the time. I am attracted to laid back women that know how to laugh and don't take life to seriously and don't have up and down moods all the time and I am especially attracted to small women and when you get older that can be a problem.
 El_Mariachi

Joined: 4/21/2007
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Posted: 6/23/2008 8:48:12 PM

yes it is true that women get more dating site action than men do.


What women are those?
 Erik da Viking

Joined: 3/23/2008
Msg: 1865
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Posted: 6/24/2008 5:16:48 AM
(humoryou) I will bite on this one. Act like a gentleman on this site or anywhere else and you stand a better chance at getting a response.
At like a cad and you likely end up with no responses.


Then this...


Not everyone responds to me or anyone else, be a grown up and move on.


So, if you're not getting responses, are you admitting that you often act like a cad?

Arlo

(WTH, it's St. Johnny Baptist Day, day off for all of us government drones here in Kwee-bek, everything's closed... know what they say: the devil finds work for idle Arlo...)
 opnmydm

Joined: 3/23/2008
Msg: 1866
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Posted: 6/24/2008 5:19:27 AM
dont worry about it, you need some tough skin on this site, most of the women are the ones going after that bad boys and the ones that you see here complaining about said experiance week after week as to why he wont call me after i slept with him..keep your chin up. when you least expect it, someone will come along that you will actually want a relationship with.
 dday4728

Joined: 6/18/2008
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Posted: 6/24/2008 12:00:21 PM
i agree with you 100% brother.women on the site have it far easier.they dont have to be that attractive either. especially the ones that show a little skin and cleavage its like the sharks in a feeding frenzy.the men go straight for the bait and then the womenjust have to delete all the idiots that fall for that old trap.far more men on here it seems and the women -no matter how much u have to offer , or compliment them etc-were just another tadpole in the sea... the whole tall dark secure ambitious thing is bullshit -most guys that have a few of those would lie about the rest anyways.even though ive done great in real life dating for the last few years -had a few lookers and some younger cuties on here the competition is too great. the women are rude and getting swelled heads from men too easily gained without any effort .anyways im going to stay with the asian thing i began -its better and the girls are nicer and simpler..
 Obsidian71

Joined: 6/9/2008
Msg: 1868
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Posted: 6/24/2008 12:16:13 PM
It is what it is.

There's got to be some payoff for women hopping online and dealing with some crazies.

Though I am myself looking to go out and do more social things and dance more. I love dancing and miss it.

For me there's a little fear in the whole "met her out dancing while slightly inebriated" thing. For me the promise of online dating was making more cerebral connection with a woman. I know "connection" stems from meeting a woman out on the town. It's generally a physical connection.

Maybe I'm being a bit pessimistic. I tell you though it's nice to get the physical compatibility thing out of the way in person.
 Eddie2704

Joined: 3/27/2008
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Posted: 6/25/2008 4:05:34 PM
El_Mariachi

Think about it like this, There are other men on here that have been here four years and longer. What is a guy left to think when he has been here that long and the biggest bulk of his messages get ignored or deleted? It's hard for me or any other guy to believe that with all the messages that get sent to women that goes mostly ignored that the women aren't getting some action somewhere. Read the forums and you will see guys totally frustrated because they send out well thought out messages that get deleted and ignored. Some men send out 10 or more messages a day to women that they think are attractive and there profile interesting only to be read and deleted. Lets say there are thousand men on here at any given time. If each one of those men send out 10 messages a week that is ten thousand messages in a week that have gone out on this website alone. If out of that ten thousand 95% of them get read/ delete, Don't you think there will be a lot of disappointed men out there? If you spread that on out into a month and 95% of those get read/deleted no wonder there are so many men that leave this site with a complex and in dire need of a psychiatrist.
 Obsidian71

Joined: 6/9/2008
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Posted: 6/25/2008 5:29:51 PM
Good points Eddie.

I think a lot of us men know what it is.

1. Out of whack Male/Female ratio (nothing you can do here really)
2. Less than honest bio (built to attract people but are they honest...Venus Flytrap?)
3. Frustrated men that lash out in childish ways when a woman "does" reply and it's not what they want to hear.
4. Ego boost- Look I have female friends on numerous dating sites and they admit it's an ego boost to get instant attn.
5. Cultural norms- Women by and large are not the aggressors, highlighting of their beauty gets more attn not less (as opposed to men in pics w/o shirts that are "turnoffs" )

There are advantages for women online in that they are firmly in the drivers seat.
 Erik da Viking

Joined: 3/23/2008
Msg: 1871
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Posted: 6/25/2008 6:24:09 PM

(TheGoodMan) Which is why Internet dating doesn't work for guys.


*sigh*

Internet dating should NOT be your ONLY means of seeking a date. If you're having such a bad time, and it's depressing you so much, then the LOGICAL thing to do would be to go somewhere else, yes?

Arlo
 Eddie2704

Joined: 3/27/2008
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Posted: 6/25/2008 7:10:25 PM
Obsidian71 , Said,

3. Frustrated men that lash out in childish ways when a woman "does" reply and it's not what they want to hear.


I have to admit that this is one of the things that peeves me. I will never understand why there are guys that get upset when a woman turns them down. If a woman doesn't want me then i don't want her. It's just that simple. Move on to the next one. Come to think of it one more, Guys who beg! That even makes me go YUCK! If i was a woman i wouldn't want the guy either. That will make a woman sick of a man FAST! Don't misunderstand, I can understand a guys frustration when he gets turned down left and right. But, At the same time, for a guy to have any success at this dating game he has to have some respect for himself and not go off his rocker just because he is being turned down. If this ain't working move on to something else. Maybe a guy should leave this site if he feels he has to. But, Don't publish it to everyone by leaving a bitter thread. If a guy joins 10 other sites he should keep it to himself. Don't brag about it. Guys who do things like this are dumb as*es. All there doing by bragging is turning other potential dates off.
 Scooter0266

Joined: 5/22/2005
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Posted: 6/25/2008 7:12:03 PM
Or.... what about those, "I just did not feel a connection"... good luck in what you seek...

Whatever happened to just being friends, the type you can call upon for a simple "date"/get together??

Why must there always be a physical connection? I feel that is part of our "immediate satisfaction" society. We seem to treat friendships, chance meetings, planned get togethers like buying a new pair of shoes (women)... that without the immediate satisfaction/connection - nothing will come from it.

There are tons of us really good, nice, caring, loving men out there.

*sigh*
 Eddie2704

Joined: 3/27/2008
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Posted: 6/25/2008 7:48:59 PM
Scooter0266

There was a time way back there when a guy and a gal got together and went out and just had a good time together. There was a time when things were left to happen naturally. It seems to me that men and women are looking for to much to soon. Women seem to have this odd idea that they have to have chemistry right off the bat on the first meeting the first time she lays eyes on him. If it ain't there in the first few min' of meeting then it ain't gonna be there. There are a lot of guys that are just as bad. I fear those good ole days are gone. There seems to be to many people that don't know how to be friends first before starting a relationship. They seem to want to jump in the sack to quick before they know anything about each other. People now seem to look for that animal sexual attraction first before they look to see what kind of person he or she is. There are millions of single men and women out there but no one can seem to get together with anything lasting. It took a long time before i figured it out. I use to be just like a lot of other men and women and look for the wrong things first. A mistake i will never make again. Things i learned to look for first in random order, Is she honest, Who she is, what she is inside, What she stands for. In other words what makes her who she is in her heart where she can't hide anything. Then all that other stuff will come later. I guess i just got tired of being attracted to idiotic women and not finding it out until i was in to deep. Now i find out first, In the beginning if there stupid or not. Saves a lot of trouble and a lot of brokenheartedness.
 outofthedesert

Joined: 6/3/2008
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Posted: 6/25/2008 8:00:34 PM
If internet dating is so good for women, why am I playing in the forums instead of kissing some man goodnight?
 ThrashleyMetal420

Joined: 6/21/2008
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Posted: 6/25/2008 9:09:12 PM
Oh boo hoo, poor dude. Try being a lesbian on here. Unless you want a girl attached to some man or has a streched out southern regions from having a bunch of kids you are sh*t out of luck. And about the good lookin girls not wanting a lack luster dude, may i say duh? I'm sorry but all these hot chicks could find a million average guys without the help of POF, so they are obviously holding out for someone really great (or the pics are fake). I totally agree with the guy that said that you need to lower your standards, or at least take a less shallow approach. I have also found in the past that constant scanning and frantic e-mailing can cause a feeling of rejection and desperation. maybe you should take a break and just wait and see if someone e-mails you. Sometimes love happens when you stop looking.

random fish
 HotDuke

Joined: 6/21/2008
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Posted: 6/25/2008 9:18:23 PM
Well I'm new to this but I like to try new things.
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