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 Fifi47

Joined: 8/19/2004
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Posted: 6/26/2008 5:57:31 PM
I talk to a man a while and get the interview questions over with before the date. If we have not communicated enough to know there is attraction already, I am going to be wasting my time meeting him. Time, effort and money are all important to me.
 *in*spired

Joined: 3/4/2008
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Posted: 6/26/2008 6:19:45 PM

I would tend to agree with you in certain aspects of what you say in your post. I have an interesting reply posted in" Dating experiences - Aggressive men. . . .like 'em or not?" that you may want to read. The important thing is to understand, that all of this is learned behavior. We are products of our surroundings and reflect aptly to that notion.
We as society, as a civilization have undergone many transformations over our existence in regards to the favorable opposite sex. Science tells us that by shear instinct, we seek out a partner that exhibits favorable features that will extend our gene pool into the next generation.
History has shown us otherwise with fads and trends in all classes of society over human existence that this is not entirely true. Hence, there was a period in the 1920's for instance where the preferable female mate of choice by many was a women of a larger body size.
Currently the candidate for the ideal female mate seems to be that of something between what is airbrushed on magazine covers or what we have crammed down our throats by the mass media on a daily basis!
Have you ever noticed that in movies, commercials,etc. . . .that you hardly ever see people that are considered obese or unattractive by today's standards being used to promote products or make movies? Even on most "reality" shows. . .they hand pick who will be on the show in relation to the marketing demographic. The fact that is blatant. . .is that the very most intimate thing that we seek, be it love, has a "FOR SALE" sign on it. And this has and will become more of a cash crop for those that seek commercial prosperity. .. . solely at the expense of each and every one of us! And yes, some women that fit the "GOOD LOOKING" by today's standards category, are reaping in the spoils of this modern day commercialism of humanity and can't get enough of it.
We are becoming a disposable society in mindset, where it is getting easier for each of us as "individuals" to break away from the common ties that have held humanity together, to being numb to the effects that we have upon each other. The term "independent" as an individual has come at a great cost to all of us and yet again this to has given way to offer another opportunity to capitalize on our emotions. . . .it's all about money!!!!!
I've been involved with online dating, on and off for some 5 years now. When I first discovered it, it was in it's true infancy. . .a hush,hush topic. It did not hold the appeal that is rising in it's favor now. Then again this industry has grown into a multibillion dollar venture for the top dating sites. I'm glad there are still sites like this around that offer some of the basic services for free. One thing you may have noticed, is look at the pictures of the women on the full pay sites as opposed to the free sites! I noticed there are more of what we consider "good looking" women that have profiles posted there as opposed to the free sites. Why do think that is????????? MONEY!!!!!!!!!
Cause yet again, the greedy almighty business machine has forged it's way into another area of our lives. I often wondered about this early on. . . .I mean how many of the profiles are legitimate and how many are creations by those companies to entice consumers to lay out their cash in hopes to meet with and form a relationship with one of the" beautiful people"!
And I see recently that my suspicions have been warrented. . .in fact it is being found that dating sites have been doing just as I have fore mentioned. How nice it is to see once again that our emotions are being exploited! Things we do to each other in this world just amazes me!
Not to say that there are not some legitimate people on dating sites or that it doesn't work. I have had one relationship that was formed from meeting online. . . .lasted about a year. And others that have become friendships that have spanned the entire length of the time I have been at online dating sites.
I've found that a good mixture of online dating and dating the conventional methods are a decent approach. One kinda cancels out the other and allows one to remain Sane! Just know that your not the only guy on these sites that has had this experience. You write almost verbatim, what I have seen others write before about the experiences that they have faced on these sites. Even for myself, I have been down this road more times that I care to admit, yet I have gain great wisdom from it all!
Most of the women you are writing to are not going to respond to you and that in itself should tell you something about their character. . I'd stay away from them all together. It may be more of a mindset change, yet I personally go for the average girl that displays a uniqueness about her that is unparalleled in comparison to the cookie cutter trophy girl that every man supposedly wants these days. You'll find a more genuine, realistic woman without outrageous expectations and more realistic requirements that I think are a little easier to work with.
And the most important thing, is to devise the ability to not let online dating become any more personal than you have to. . .don't take it personally if you write a woman and you never hear from hear. Just keep moving forward and ahead and you'll find her. . . .nothing good comes easy. Once you do find her .. . .you'll see she was worth everything you've gone through thus far.


When I read the above post I kept thinking of something written long ago:


1You must realize, however, that in the last days difficult times will come. 2People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3unfeeling, uncooperative, slanderĀ­ous, degenerate, brutal, hateful of what is good, 4traitors, reckĀ­less, conceited, and lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God. 5They will hold to an outward form of godliness but deny its power. Stay away from such people. 2Timothy 3

Last days, I dunno, but the world is only so big, and when you put 20 people in a room with only 1 bowl of food, things really start happening to people.
 cathyq

Joined: 12/19/2005
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Posted: 6/26/2008 6:29:28 PM
well I am so frutrated. I don;t kknow to do.

Men seem to say they are free and then oh my goodness they aren't! Oh! They are havign their daughter visit fo r2 weeks and can t do anything,., grown up mind you... or their overtime which just began or their son cam ehoe from an airline pilot trip.. he is mor eimportant.. or they ar e leaving or they make a date and just shine it on.
I am MAD.
Why say you are free when you are not? Why bother making a date.. when you are nto going to show up?
 kat 4 good home

Joined: 12/30/2007
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Posted: 6/26/2008 6:51:41 PM
don't think you are alone. yes, i've met guys, but nothing close to 100's aday. i think internet dating is the pits, but it does serve a purpose! hang in there!
 Bob1952

Joined: 5/2/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2008 12:18:39 PM
I think the rudest thing in this site and others is if someone takes the time to write you the very least you can do is answer,,even if its just a 'you are not my type message". Very easy to do,just cut and paste a quick note to use over and over again. Lets show some style for crying out loud, Bob
 LaMonna

Joined: 6/9/2008
Msg: 1908
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Posted: 6/27/2008 4:11:03 PM
My experiences on POF haven't been as rewarding as most men would think! I am usually the one to initiate contact. And all that gets me is messages that are read and deleted. They don't even have the decency to reply. I guess I should consider myself fortunate that I haven't had negative responses. But sometimes no response at all is the same. I make it a habit to respond to all messages I receive, even if no pic is provided, and even if I'm not interested...I at least have the decency to tell them that. I think guys need to stop acting like jerks and start acting like human beings online.
 bigshrek

Joined: 11/15/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2008 9:54:57 PM
If someone obviously hasn't taken the time to READ your profile before messaging you, they should expect to be deleted without an answer.

Here's your sign.

If a man/woman puts NO DRUGGIES, and a stoner messages them, what do YOU think will happen??

If a woman puts NO OLD GUYS, and a 50 yr old sends one, should she reply?? NO, the old bastich didn't pay attention!!

If a guy puts NO BLONDES, one would think that most blondes would be smart enough NOT to send a message, but then again we ARE talking about blondes here... the freekin bleach drains their braincells.
 actualized

Joined: 4/13/2008
Msg: 1910
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:12:27 PM
the topic title is obvious. no debate is necessary. i don't understand why the moderators are allowing a debate in futility.

a small percentage of men are being circulated among a greater percentage of females just like offline but more pronounced. women choose it to be this way.
 leonpeon

Joined: 2/10/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:30:15 PM
"educated white guy like me" What does your skin color or "race" have to do with anything? Don't feel sorry for yourself and be a little more humble. Just my humble opinion. Keep on fishing, MAN!
 prettite

Joined: 2/16/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:55:49 PM
1. I think a lot of women don't understand that you guys expect a reply even when we're not interested. Most women I've talked to would prefer not to receive any reply then to receive a rejection, including myself.
2. I personally have tried several attempted initiations, with very little success. I think maybe that men are suspicious of women who make the first move, especially if they are attractive. They are probably wondering what an attractive woman is doing on here to begin with. So I don't usually do that anymore.
3. Sure we get a bunch of email at first, but even with that things rarely pan out. A lot of men aren't really even single, or they aren't emotionally available and don't even realize it, they're too young or too old or too tall or short, or scary looking, etc. I've had very few relationships come about from internet dating, and none that have been long lasting. You don't have to be a 9+ to find someone. My advice is to avoid seeking for more than what you have to offer. Try to be the best you can be, and don't wear your heart on your sleeve, and don't take it to heart when you don't get a response. Isn't it better than hearing "thanks, but not interested?" It's a numbers game, keep your chin up and keep looking.
 prettite

Joined: 2/16/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:58:36 PM
Actually, statistically there are many more single men than there are single women. I'd post the website address for it but it's not allowed. Then, many of those are in prisons or get killed in wars.
 browolf

Joined: 4/7/2007
Msg: 1914
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Posted: 6/28/2008 3:42:35 AM

I think maybe that men are suspicious of women who make the first move, especially if they are attractive.


That's a sweeping generalisation. For instance I've gotten messages from females that make no sense at all....
 Erik da Viking

Joined: 3/23/2008
Msg: 1915
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Posted: 6/28/2008 5:20:22 AM

(bigshrek) If someone obviously hasn't taken the time to READ your profile before messaging you, they should expect to be deleted without an answer.


No kidding. But, what about the guy who DOES read the profile, sends a message, and gets "read/deleted/no reply" anyway?

Meh. I consider outgoing email like a fire-and-forget anti-tank rocket anyway: either I get a response, or I don't. Either way, I go about with a happy, slightly vacant grin on my face...

Arlo
 Erik da Viking

Joined: 3/23/2008
Msg: 1916
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Posted: 6/28/2008 5:31:50 AM
(prettite) 1. I think a lot of women don't understand that you guys expect a reply even when we're not interested. Most women I've talked to would prefer not to receive any reply then to receive a rejection, including myself.


Forgive my sarcasm, but are you attempting to date guys, or girls? You shouldn't base how you treat a man based on what women themselves would prefer. If you're looking for a man, you should listen to what THEY would prefer.


2. I personally have tried several attempted initiations, with very little success. I think maybe that men are suspicious of women who make the first move, especially if they are attractive. They are probably wondering what an attractive woman is doing on here to begin with. So I don't usually do that anymore.


Some are suspicious, some aren't. I'm in the "not-suspcious" camp myself... (hint-hint).


Try to be the best you can be, and don't wear your heart on your sleeve, and don't take it to heart when you don't get a response.


Agree totally.


Isn't it better than hearing "thanks, but not interested?"


*shrug* Some people prefer a response. But, whatever. No one here is a mind-reader; you can't tell what the Other Person would prefer. So, just be true to yourself. There's no "Right" or "Wrong" on the replying to initial email contact issue...

Arlo
 wild heart

Joined: 10/14/2007
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Posted: 6/28/2008 7:09:43 AM

the topic title is obvious. no debate is necessary. i don't understand why the moderators are allowing a debate in futility.


I think that about alot of the topics on the forums. Basically most have a logical simple solution to them that most people have blinders to. I've come to the conclusion that people like drama and games in their lives and that rather than just accepting the way men and women are and moving the hell on with life and love, they continue to try to change people.

Unless someone is changeable, you'll never change them. As someone who is pretty changeable, it's frustrating for me to watch people either never accept change or watch them fighting a losing battle to try to change something or someone. That said, an intelligent well thought out post will change my way of thinking and usually that person is able to see other sides from an objective point of view also.

Certain things in the world have changed, while others remain the same. I truly believe though, that men and women's desire, attraction and need for each other has not changed that much at it's basic core/instinct.

Assuming that someone else has it easier than you is a no no. You never know how the person walking down the street near you might be suffering. For example, just because they are young and walking doesn't mean they could not be in intense pain and just not showing it.
 El_Mariachi

Joined: 4/21/2007
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Posted: 6/28/2008 7:47:53 AM

I've come to the conclusion that people like drama and games in their lives and that rather than just accepting the way men and women are and moving the hell on with life and love, they continue to try to change people.


True. I think there's more though. I think this grand idea of online being so much easier sits in people's minds and then when they get rejected a lot (which they will), they're stunned and confused.

The idea that just because they're great... doesn't mean everyone will agree and want a date with them never registers. Rejection is like a slap in the face to some people (ok, to many people)... which is nuts because it's SO SO SO common and even expected.
 laidback70

Joined: 5/24/2008
Msg: 1919
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Posted: 6/28/2008 8:53:08 AM
I been doing online dating since 1998 for 10 years now and I can tell you that internet dating was a blessing for me the first 8 years for me. Depending on your tastes, now 10 years later, I find its a combination of my age catching up to me and also that internet dating is now the norm versus the small minority of people. I feel its only been the last two years I have had really lousy success with it and its really funny, but when my confidence level is up there I do much better the old way around. I just find that internet dating sites are really tools to boast a person's confidence level. Nowadays its really just a tool versus a way for people to meet and hookup. I will say the next 10 years are going to be interesting on how the internet shapes up. Me myself I am looking to maybe start a dating site myself and cater to a certain group of people as I am really sick of all these sites that have absolutely not much to offer. Being on here though is great research in on how I can come up with an approach that may appeal to the group of people I want to help and thats the single males like me looking for true love. I think being a single male these days is considered a curse whereas back in 1978 it was considered more a blessing.
 laidback70

Joined: 5/24/2008
Msg: 1920
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Posted: 6/28/2008 9:02:27 AM
I know I am going to get back lash marks on this comment, but thats my perspective.
 madamebuterfly

Joined: 6/23/2008
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Posted: 6/28/2008 9:19:05 AM
Dating online dos not sux for guys..

It can sux for both sexes..

Just read some of the requests men put in their profiles and that should answer your question...

My opinion is that, both sexes sometimes do not know what is it we actually want/need etc..

This is just an opinion, not a criticism on anyone ok..

Happy fishiing..



 statestreet1980

Joined: 6/26/2008
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Posted: 6/29/2008 5:14:27 PM
I would agree that it does indeed suck for guys. I won't say that it is a paradise for women but lets me honest, I know this is not the case for all women BUT the number one complaint I have read/heard from women is being overwhelmed by email and the vulgarity of emails from some men. That in itself is a problem but I think one that most men would consider less of a problem then we have in writing over and over and over and rarely getting replies.

Most guys would admit internet dating can suck in a way for women too but find it almost insulting to suggest that it is just as bad as it is for most guys. It's kind of like someone in a desert with very little food and water hearing about someone who lives next to a grocery store but they complain because the grocery store doesn't keep the foods they like.
 bigshrek

Joined: 11/15/2007
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Posted: 6/29/2008 6:02:23 PM
Rent the movie, "Earth Girls are EASY".

Even martians have a hard time figuring our women out...

Well, except for Weblock....
 countrymanisgentle

Joined: 1/15/2008
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Posted: 6/29/2008 6:06:30 PM
Statestreet, how well said and how CORRECT you are!!! Always, always females complain about the flooding number of emails. IF they DON'T get very many, here are the simple FACTS as to why: they are doing something wrong, are overweight, unattractive, have four kids that they want someone to feed, clothe, and raise for them, or are sending the message that they don't want an average guy with average lifestyle!

We nice, "average", attractive guys email and email, try and try but all we get is "unread-deleted", or the infamous "I just don't think we're a match"! What bunk and b/s.

They WANT and are searching for their FREE MILLION DOLLAR MEAL MONEY TICKET! With "most" all women searching in vain for their pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, only a few will receive it, for most of us guys are not millionaires, or well-off but have an "average" income and lifestyle.

If the opposite WERE true, myself like every other "average" attractive guy would have many, many emails from which WE would be ABLE TO CHOOSE whom we wanted to date.

Instead, the facts of this dating and internet life speak for themselves!
 Smooge

Joined: 3/3/2008
Msg: 1925
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Posted: 6/29/2008 6:16:33 PM
I don't agree. I think you may not be looking at the right one's that's all. Some of the women on here have been here for years so you might need to be Don Juan and own a Yacht to please them or...there is no pleasing them. If I can tell they have been here for years I figure they will write whoever they're interested so I don't try to unravel that puzzle. Make sure you express the things you have in common with them when you write. There are some really wonderful and practical women here!
 Fifi47

Joined: 8/19/2004
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Posted: 6/29/2008 7:06:06 PM
Average looking men are often griping about women not looking good enough for them. Reality check.
 Mr. Nister Pister

Joined: 11/25/2007
Msg: 1927
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Posted: 6/29/2008 9:12:07 PM

With "most" all women searching in vain for their pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, only a few will receive it, for most of us guys are not millionaires, or well-off but have an "average" income and lifestyle.


If this is what "most" women are looking for, the short guys in green suits should be doing really well!

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