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 Jadyn07

Joined: 1/2/2007
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Posted: 6/29/2008 9:15:07 PM
Imagine how difficult it is for us normal girls to compete with the bikini-wearing girls you're talking about. Put a photo up of a hot chick wearing practically nothing next to a cute girl who is intelligent and has a great sense of humor and who is the guy going to pick? Hmmm...
 gentlemanjack1

Joined: 5/13/2008
Msg: 1929
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Posted: 6/30/2008 4:56:25 AM
I don't agree. I think you may not be looking at the right one's that's all. Some of the women on here have been here for years so you might need to be Don Juan and own a Yacht to please them or...there is no pleasing them.


Exactly, there is no pleasing them.

Yeah, alot of them that had been here for years...on and off, it's crazy, I see them all the time in "My Matches", I think I emailed every single one of them and got the "Read /Delete" Then they sit around wondering why they're still single....the aren't willing to even to give ag uy a shot...even meet for lunch for 30-mins.

Or they DO respond, but with a thank but no thanks at the very most.

There's this one girl, in her profile she stated she was a Christian and was remaining celibate until marriage, had "Not here for hook ups!".
I actually admired her convictions, and with all those spooky diseases out there, and also...me being Christian as well, I emailed her. I got a response though....a "sorry, there's no spark" response (like you can tell that over the net) and plus she lives in the same small suburban area as I do....where there's a serious lack of available 30-somethings. (most people are married or living together.)

I did kind of gave her an angle, "Hm...I angled....you're single, saving yourself for marraige, and living in an area where there's no single people (or very little).....I'm the best you could do, lol!

I stated, NO man is going to want to wait until marriage.

With this woman's criteria, let's just say she'll be single, for a very long time.
 Fifi47

Joined: 8/19/2004
Msg: 1930
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Posted: 6/30/2008 6:12:57 AM
Some men and women wait until marriage, I know a few who did and will. You just do not know the people who do wait, so saying that NO man is going to wait until marriage sounds as if you have met every man.
 gentlemanjack1

Joined: 5/13/2008
Msg: 1931
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Posted: 6/30/2008 6:37:07 AM
Some men and women wait until marriage, I know a few who did and will. You just do not know the people who do wait, so saying that NO man is going to wait until marriage sounds as if you have met every man.


Thanks for the correction, but I was more or less being facetious. Just saying her chances are meeting a man that's willing to wait, while it is possible....but not probable.

Very slim chance.
 bigshrek

Joined: 11/15/2007
Msg: 1932
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Posted: 6/30/2008 6:51:29 AM
Some guys dodge the gals who show major cleavage/bikini pics simply because we know that they are attention whores. They generally get what they deserve...all the horny guys that want one-night stands and are happy to lie to them to get it...therefore the THOUSANDS of "I don't understand why he banged me and won't call me back" posts here. Fawkin moron blondes... Leave the Bleach ALONE, it only melts your Brain!!

All a gal really needs for photos is at least ONE RECENT good IN FOCUS face pic. Then one long shot in regular daywear (tshirt/bluejeans) just so we can tell she ain't bigger than our couch. Then a nice eveningwear shot or two (minor cleavage acceptable). Most guys look at the face first, then the BOD to see if it's acceptable, then the more intelligent of us look into the MIND. Yeah, that's the order, NO it ain't gonna change to mind first because men are a buncha horny bastiches and we ain't gonna change that either!!

If she's got a motorcycle/atv/horse/etc, hey, shoot a pic...it shows that you have a life other than chasing pecker.
HAVE some HOBBIES!! We wanna know that you're not gonna sit around all day and watch Soap Operas and eat Haagen-Daaz until you turn into a HOGGIN...

It ain't rocket science here, people...a little common sense goes a LONG way.
 Obsidian71

Joined: 6/9/2008
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Posted: 6/30/2008 7:09:57 AM

magine how difficult it is for us normal girls to compete with the bikini-wearing girls you're talking about. Put a photo up of a hot chick wearing practically nothing next to a cute girl who is intelligent and has a great sense of humor and who is the guy going to pick? Hmmm...


Well I fixed this issue a long time ago. You chase the cute intelligent girl and then beg her to wear the bikini :D That way you have the best of both worlds.


 coca2

Joined: 2/17/2006
Msg: 1934
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Posted: 6/30/2008 7:10:51 AM
^^^ Practice what you preach. Where is your full length shot so women can see that you're not the size of a house? And a clear shot of your face would help too. Let's play fair here .
 spl

Joined: 7/5/2007
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Posted: 6/30/2008 7:13:17 AM
The thing that I mostly hate about some women here is when they delete the message without reading it. It happened twice to me. I mean am I really that repulsive and unattractive that I don't even deserve to have my mail read? I should be giving Quasimodo a run for his money in the looks department then. Last time I checked the worst I got was average and while I know I am not a supermodel I'm not lizard man either. Is not like I write hello how are you, I put some thought into it and use more than one brainwave. The only reason a woman might do that is because it is actually a guy posing as a girl. Just read the message delete it if not interested and end of story. Is not that hard ladies! I ALWAYS read my messages even if they are from Medusa herself. What this shows is lack of education and a princess mentality that will not get you far.

So yeah to the original posting women have it a lot easier than men. A guy has to be top notch, fit to the core, 6 pack if possible, model facial features, nice lips, tight butt etc to even be looked at. Men we have to raise our standards!! If they expect Brad Pitt then we should expect Jessica Alba. javascript:smilie('')
 bigshrek

Joined: 11/15/2007
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Posted: 6/30/2008 7:22:59 AM
I'm offa da market. No point in posting a pic other than an old one so folks who went to school with me will recognize me. However, when I did have the full profile thingy going on, I had it ALL up!
 que sere sere

Joined: 4/17/2008
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Posted: 6/30/2008 7:28:13 AM
I could say the same for most men, only replying to the messages from the half naked young things on here! LOL! It's about choices and don't get aggravated because women have them, especially when it's the men on here that are providing them. I don't have a picture, don't know how to post one & it's usually the first thing asked for when I get a message. I understand no one wants to get stuck with someone they feel is grotesque for even a couple of hours, but perhaps you're guilty of the same thing you're accusing the women of doing and may need to lower your standards a little bit like "Shallow Hal" Good luck!
 spl

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Posted: 6/30/2008 7:46:14 AM

I could say the same for most men, only replying to the messages from the half naked young things on here! LOL! It's about choices and don't get aggravated because women have them, especially when it's the men on here that are providing them. I don't have a picture, don't know how to post one & it's usually the first thing asked for when I get a message. I understand no one wants to get stuck with someone they feel is grotesque for even a couple of hours, but perhaps you're guilty of the same thing you're accusing the women of doing and may need to lower your standards a little bit like "Shallow Hal" Good luck!


If those men delete the message without reading it first then they are in the same league with the women who do it. They are also uneducated pricks. I believe in personal choice however when someone doesn't read and deletes it's just plain rude. I'm sure there are women who also had this experience but I am positive the men outnumber them considerably. Anyhow, maybe I should start doing the same thing...lol nah javascript:smilie('')
 blueeyedgirl42

Joined: 12/7/2007
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Posted: 6/30/2008 8:16:58 AM
Well I fixed this issue a long time ago. You chase the cute intelligent girl and then beg her to wear the bikini :D That way you have the best of both worlds.


I love a man with a plan!!




Always, always females complain about the flooding number of emails.


I'd be cautious with with word ALWAYS (or maybe you don't know what the word means?) as MANY women here have said over and over.....we are not ALL getting flooded with emails...even those of us that are not dog ugly, unemployed and barn-sized. Many of us do get flooded with emails for about 48 hours when we first joined (like feeding time at the shark tank!) but after that....many of us are in the same boat.


I don't agree. I think you may not be looking at the right one's that's all. Some of the women on here have been here for years so you might need to be Don Juan and own a Yacht to please them or...there is no pleasing them. If I can tell they have been here for years I figure they will write whoever they're interested so I don't try to unravel that puzzle. Make sure you express the things you have in common with them when you write. There are some really wonderful and practical women here!


And FINALLY, we have the voice of reason! :) Thank you, Smooge!
 keyzguy369

Joined: 5/26/2008
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Posted: 6/30/2008 9:04:32 AM
What is the problem with you people?????

I am pasting in a typical e-mail that I sent out to women that I find interesting and I dare any one of you to find something male chauvinistic, or incredibly rude in any part of this particular e-mail or any of the e-mail that I have ever sent out.

And yet I can't read delete it all the time...

And that was before I started posting with you people who can't discern the difference between truth and fiction...

And I am quite serious about that people are liars...

And I am quite serious about that people are liars...

They lie to themselves as to what they want...

But more so they lie to themselves as to what they deserve!

And they believe all that crap they see on television and read in the newspapers!

6000 articles a week to allow telling women how they can and how they can do this and how they can do that and how they can get away with this and how they can do that it's all a bunch of crap...

Some people might think that I am angry or have anger issues..

My problem is I can't be around people that can't tell the truth!

I don't even deal with it twice once is enough!

You tell me that you like to get lied to... no one likes that and yet this is what we get in return for e-mails like I send out to the few people that I was interested in... and still I get no replies...

Nothing serious for sure!

I get quite a few from people that want to take a vacation though on my dime of course!


To give you an idea... there is absolutely no reason for all this bantering... in general people just suck!

To prove my point, would be subjective of at best however being in business for 30 years and having come across maybe three out of every hundred people that I've had to deal with being able to comprehend and tell the truth is a really is poor ratio when it comes to dealing with people in general.

Being on the Internet for approximately 3 years on and off because no one in their right mind could deal with this kind of crap on a daily basis I have had absolutely no luck whatsoever when it comes to dating the so-called ladies...

People in general are liars... bottom line!

I don't date people that drink alcohol because usually their little minds can't deal with more than one or two drinks in a move into some kind of Lala land which is why I choose not to date people who drink alcohol.

The following is a typical e-mail that I sent out, which takes approximately 5 to seven minutes to generate an e-mail like this using a voice recognition program...

And I have gotten three replies out of approximately 60 e-mails I have sent out to people I would be interested in...



It appears that you're intelligent enough to make a living by being in business for yourself which in and of itself is quite an accomplishment.

Congratulations with that, I myself been have also been doing it for 30 years it's not that easy!

It also appears that the possibility exists that you are looking for a long-term relationship and possibly children and I also looking for that as well which would be the reason that I sent to this e-mail in the first place.

By the way my name is Michael, and I live in Key Largo Florida a.k.a. the Florida Keys

The possibility exists that you are a traditional or tend to be traditionally orientated towards your in Asian culture and that would help a great deal because many of the cultures from that part of the world have some really nice characteristics.

In fact I spent three years in a Zen Buddhist monastery and although you might not see that from the way I speak and live a clean and have a healthy life and am looking for someone that shares the same values.

I enjoy a creative endeavors of of any nature as creativity within oneself allows something special to happen during the creative process itself. That is the type of person that I would be very interested in meeting.

I have a little landscaping business down here in the Florida Keys and I have been here for 14 years and am now quite serious about finding a lady of substance. Which is totally impractical down here in the keys because of the rampant drug and alcohol use. So I joined up on this dating site to see if quite possibly there would be anyone in a relatively close distance that I could share some time with to see if a long-term relationship is possible. thus far it has proven to be nothing more than a waste of time but every few days I send out an e-mail to someone that has the potential even if the possibilities are small I keep the possibility open.

Although I own a landscaping business I have a pretty good education and lived in New York as most of my life and well-traveled in the United States only and have several federal and state licenses and I say this so you don't think I am just another happy-go-lucky alcoholic from the Florida Keys putting the moves on you. In fact I am not I do not drink alcohol or consume drugs of any nature and it has been this way for 20 years so that will never be an issue.



I know it is a long-distance but perhaps we can meet someplace midway after a few e-mails and possibly some telephone conversations.

I have seen that you are on the website for approximately the same time that I have been here and the fact that we are both still on this site leads me to believe that neither one of us have found what we are looking for so I would be willing if you were to at least find out if this is a possibility.

Looking for a woman that is dynamic in nature and has the ability to adapt and someone that is not afraid to get our hands dirty at the end of the day cleaning the boat or helping and the are doing the gardening and of course in return I will fix your car have nice conversations with you about the future and be your best friend.

If you're done playing the silly dating game and are truly looking for a serious relationship and we are both looking for the same thing.

And although it appears when you read my blogs and most people do that I am amount chauvinist pig remember everyone has a point of view and for the most part except for for a few lovely women that I had in my life this is what I see reality to be in today's world.

The men are looking for sex and the women are looking for money. This is not to say that everyone is the same because there is that one person and a hundred that is completely normal or as close to normal as normal can be that any other person could be compatible with and that is the person I am looking for.

I will give you my website which is used for my advertising and if in fact you return my e-mails and would like to know more about me I would be more than willing to open up a dialogue to find out more about you as well.

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Don't know if I'm allowed to put my website address where I had so I deleted it...

However if one of you non-flaky women with a real job and a real profile would like it after two or three e-mails you can give me your telephone number so I can find out whether or not you are even real and I would be more than happy to share it with you...

Oh so now the guy is paranoid.....

Believe it or not this site has a bunch of very sick people on it....

And on more than one occasion I have been e-mailed by transvestites... transsexuals...

And women who look like balloons with pictures superimposed on them....

That's not can happen again if I can help it!

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Please rest assured that it is a safe site and has 85 pictures of the Florida Keys and my landscaping and artwork.

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Now I Ask You Why Would Someone Delete Not Even Take the Courtesy Time to Reply to an E-Mail like That?

And I would say that eight out of 10 e-mails that I send out similar to this were deleted even before they were read so what is the damn point of being nice taking a time sending out an e-mail if the people don't have the common courtesy to read it?

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So after reading and deleting an e-mail like this what do men have than to come to any other conclusion that most of the women out there all lying to themselves when they put in their profiles what they actually want.

Because as I have said previously I try to relate to their profile and I still get no responses...

Three reasons for that...

One I don't date people who drink alcohol!

This stops about 85% of any possibility of dating!
Because they lie about social drinking!

Number two is I make it perfectly clear that I don't date people who ingest any type of drugs whatsoever...

There is a large percentage of people that think that pot is not a drug when in fact it is, and that is a deal breaker!

Number three is, if you can't tell the truth what's the point?

There are few people in the world that will walk around all day long 24/7 telling people the truth... I run across two or three out of every hundred people I do business with those of the stats and that's the bottom line on that...

They know they're liars, even if it is only lying to themselves so what would be the point of dating someone like me?

Someone who pays attention to the details and remembers what was said in a previous conversation is what I am telling you...

This doesn't leave much room, because I am one of those few people that listens to other people when they speak, and when they make a mistake about something that's important be at the first second or third day we are done!

I do not tolerate people who lie... which is where we came into this subject matter in the very beginning...

People, in general just plain SUCK... because people in general cannot discern truth!

Very few business propositions start off with a lie and become successful...

So why should it be any different from men and women relationships?

Maybe if few people started telling the truth about yourselves to others, and the truth about yourselves to {{{{ your self... }}} we would all have better luck!

And I still stand by my statement... that I in fact they are any one of you to find something wrong with the e-mail I wrote to this one particular lady who didn't even have the courtesy to e-mail me back...

Feel free to comment... everyone even myself is entitled to their opinion........

And mind you as I have previously stated this is typical of the type of e-mail I send out, and still I get no replies...

Most of you people are lying to yourselves and anyone who thinks it's their fault that someone doesn't reply should take a good look at reality, because the reality is these people don't know what they want to begin with so how can they make a decision???

And to all the angry, women out there, who have a tendency to believe they can put men down for one reason or another feel free to tell the world that this guy from the Florida keys is a male chauvinist pig, because that is what it boils down to in the end...

If you can't control the man, and I can't be controlled... place them in the male chauvinist pig category...

If you had a decent job, didn't look like a Bologna with superimposed pictures upon it. And was able to discern the difference between truth and fiction you might be doing a little bit better yourselves...

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Many of you have been on here for years and on for three different dating sites that I personally have been on,,, I have seen many of your faces on all three dating sites,,,

what exactly is your problem?

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I have broad shoulders, banter all you wish, at what I have said but at least I have told you the truth which is more than most of you people, both men and women are capable of doing!

Michael from the Florida keys... a.k.a. keysguy369
 water-lili

Joined: 6/26/2008
Msg: 1941
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Posted: 6/30/2008 9:13:10 AM
Funny u say that, I was talking with a fellow POF'er who was complaining about this very subject, here's how it went:

''It is just so damd hard to meet people in this town where men out number the women 3 to 1."

Here's my reply:

U would think that the odds would be in favour for me then? Not so. One would also assume then that once a guy has found a good thang, he would hang on to her with everything he has? Hell no. he'd rather play as many as he can. Thats why I'm still single. It's monogamy or nothing at all for me. And it looks like I'm sh*t out of luck cos nobody believes in monogamy in this town or any other, Its a pity cos I think I'm a pretty good catch. Where ever I go I have guys drooling at my feet. It just makes no sense. I'm available yet I'm still single??? Ive attributed this to my 'strong' personality and my eccentricites. The debate goes on pertaining to the strong woman syndrome suggesting that we're cold, aloof and dont "need" a man. What crap, that couldnt be further from the truth. I'm an extremely sensual feminine woman who knows what hell she wants LOL!
 spl

Joined: 7/5/2007
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Posted: 6/30/2008 10:39:48 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That is so true. I see so many men these days playing the field one woman after another. Their theory is why settle for one when there are so many attractive women out there. Personally I think this kind of behavior will make women even more "evil" in the future as they will be burned too many times. So when a nice decent guy comes alone he will get the cold shoulder.
 bigshrek

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Posted: 6/30/2008 8:58:34 PM
Heck, lately, the choice for women is:
1. nice, geeky guys
2. bad boys who beat 'em & cheat on 'em
3. the guy who bought you a 99 cent burrito at Taco Bell and wants you to sleep with them for it.
4. men who haven't quite figured out they are gay
5. men who ARE gay
6. rednecks who beat 'em, cheat on 'em, and won't clean up the trailer.
7. sponges...make the woman pay for everything
8. Nice guys who aren't gay...but they're almost like Jackalopes!
9. Married cheaters who don't tell you they're married.
10. Stoners that are still working at McDonalds after 18 years of being a fry cook.

By the time a gal actually FINDS a Number 8...she's jaded as all hell and tends not to recognize a good thing on a silver platter. Ces't La Vie!!

 water-lili

Joined: 6/26/2008
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Posted: 7/3/2008 8:59:52 PM
thats hillarious! but so bloody true!
 blueeyedgirl42

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Posted: 7/4/2008 9:30:52 AM
keyzguy369-

Perhaps it's just me, but I found this post bery disjointed and hard to read. If I had received an email written in a similar manner, I would have had a hard time responding to it. So perhaps if you changed your writing style a bit, you may get a better response? Just a thought.
 Recurring_Dream

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Posted: 7/4/2008 10:11:20 AM
And yet there are people who go "what is a jackalope?"
 Eddie2704

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Posted: 7/4/2008 8:27:02 PM
Good lord, 80 pages and counting. Is this thread ever gonna die? 1,988 msg's and counting. All this griping and not one thing coming from it. Get out from in front of you key boards and get out in the real world. Mingle a little, Rub elbows in a crowded room with other men and women then maybe you might get a date. As long as folks sit in front of there keyboards and gripe about there messages getting deleted there gonna be very lonely people.
 Recurring_Dream

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Posted: 7/4/2008 8:28:37 PM
I think I can gripe about something else. People who read messages, don't respond but let them sit days on end in their mailbox without deleting them, GO!
 SweetieGuy_81

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Posted: 7/4/2008 8:36:02 PM
yeh, tell me about it Eborys.

All a woman has to do is show a little cleavage and wear a short skirt and some belly and they can get anything they want.

But i have learnt, the hotter they are, the more arrogant and ****y they get....if they grew up looking that hot.
 Eddie2704

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Posted: 7/4/2008 8:40:36 PM
keyzguy369
I don't mean to be mean here keyzguy369 but i gotta tell the truth here. If i were a woman and you sent all that mumbo jumbo to me there is no way in he11 i would answer you. Geeze man, If you were shooting for long winded, meaningless, boring banter you hit the nail square on the head. Please, Don't take my criticism the wrong way. Nothing personal.
 Eddie2704

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Posted: 7/4/2008 8:50:35 PM

People who read messages, don't respond but let them sit days on end in their mailbox without deleting them, GO!


Think about it like this, Some people have a thing called "A life" They go out and they live it and they tend not to worry about someone waiting in front of there key board for a answer to a message that was sent 3 days ago by someone who should be doing the same as them.
 Recurring_Dream

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Posted: 7/4/2008 9:03:09 PM
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't quite get that, I was refreshing my message page.





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