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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/7/2008 7:12:13 PM | You are right-so very right. Unless it's a snapshot of some guy's jewels, I answer ALL my messages, pic or no pic. It's suprising the number of guys who are stupefied that I answer them-it's an online meat-market and many ladies(not ALL-so please don't jump on me or I will be forced to defend myself!) are sending perfectly nice guys to the slaughterhouse because they are not 'prime rib'....
It still makes me wonder though, which type of women you are messaging-if they are the plastic Barbies then best to forget it-they are only silicon-based after all....lol | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/7/2008 7:13:10 PM | Well from a woman's point of view. I am a good woman with good morals and I am not God's gift to men but I am not too hard on the eyes and that hardly gets a second look either. But, oh well...when the right guy comes along he'll recognize me when he see's me  | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/7/2008 7:28:26 PM |
they probably get so much e-mail they dont have to do any searching, just reading and deleting and blocking. Its an ego boosting experience for women- they get to screen put, reject and delete as many good looking, quality guys as they please and only respond to the top creme de la creme model quality ones.
It's difficult to reply to all of the E-mails that come in. I would never complain about the men messaging me. I read all of the E-mails, I enjoy what they have to say, but I have a hard enough time responding to the men I'm interested much less the ones that live farther away, are not my "type," or don't write something easy to respond to.
I respond to people who aren't 10's in my book and would consider dating/meeting them. It's a shame there are so many posts with people who feel this way. It is not always about the way people look. I've been single for a year and a half and met many good looking men...trust me, looks only get you a quarter of the way there. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/7/2008 10:14:46 PM | Some of the statistics here bears out my experience. I get maybe 1 reply out of 20 messages. I ain't doing bad on here, all things considered. I had one wonderfully long exchange with a girl from Canada (those Canadians sure can create a profile! Man!). I've had a near meet-up here in my area... A few good replies here and there as well as an ongoing conversation...
All in all, it's not bad.
It succeeds for some people so I figure why not roll the dice?  | |
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| Iwomen just shallow
Posted: 9/8/2008 2:55:35 AM | Hey keyzguy369, you would not by chance be related to silentman73 would you?
*runs away laughing* | |
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| Internet dating: ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!
Posted: 9/8/2008 3:19:12 AM | Why is it that women who put what they are looking are judged as shallow. Like looking for a medically healthy , fit and white teeth, are these too much to ask? If you dont have these quailities then dont start to e-mail these women, thats the end of it. We do have disadvantage too, we are judged as shallow 90% of the time.   | |
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| Iwomen just shallow
Posted: 9/8/2008 11:23:47 AM | | Hey Keyzguy you gotta check out some of the BS on the -why women choose to marry "badboys" forum. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/8/2008 11:55:41 AM | I completely agree with you... Out of all the messages I sent, I only got one back, but that was just to decline me, because I wasn't a Bible-thumper, and I was a couple of years too old... What a bunch of S H I T!
The rest of the messages I sent were just read and deleted, without a second glance. It's pretty sad when these women go to a dating site just to see how many men swoon over them... It makes them feel special, loved... Hell, it makes them feel like a Queen, so why would they pick YOU? They are getting 100's of E-Mails, so why choose?
I can guarantee you that if I put down what I make in a year, I would be getting E-mails from about 90% of the women that rejected me... Go figure. | |
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| Iwomen just shallow
Posted: 9/8/2008 12:04:17 PM | | Hey Keyzguy; something I have noticed is that the women on this site who are making first contact with me tend to be of the more highly educated and intelligent variety with what appears to be a more self sufficient and independent nature. quite often self employed, this tells me that the non responders may in fact be a lower educated lower achieving group of women more inclined to respond to a badboy type guy? any thoughts on this? | |
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| Iwomen just shallow
Posted: 9/8/2008 12:12:14 PM | | Well, I get few responses and that's exactly what I want. Just want a few good ones. I don't intend to waste time on those who are not right for me or me for them. So I compiled one of the longest most detailed profiles on the entire site, with the intention that there is absolutely nothing left to assumptions, and I just don't want to hear from people who can't deal with my being exactly as I am. It is very long so people who are slow readers or unable to drive in the fast lane will move on without wasting both of our time. | |
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| Iwomen just shallow
Posted: 9/8/2008 12:26:16 PM | Dear God, are there a lot of bitter men on this site. Booo Hooo on you. If you do not like it here, then freaking leave. It is THAT easy! If you think you are going to be more "successfful" at meeting women at bars, at church, etc. Then, why in the hell are you here?
I do not think majority of women think that having over a hundred emails boosts their egos? Give me a break! You, men, sound jealous; and also, for women being, shallow..HA HA HA. Can you say, hypercritical . I knew that you could..
It is a part of life. Women are the ones that are approached, not the other way around. Yes, there are some assertive women at there. But, most of us, wait until a man, makes the first contact.
My advice, is not to give up. Keep on trying. Rejection, sucks; but, keep the faith. And, maybe someday, you will meet that someone, special. But, having a bitter and negative attitude and allowing your ego to get in the way, is NOT going to take you very far in the dating world!!!!!! | |
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| Iwomen just shallow
Posted: 9/8/2008 2:08:54 PM |
Rock and Roll Princess!!! wrote: Dear God, are there a lot of bitter men on this site. Booo Hooo on you. If you do not like it here, then freaking leave. It is THAT easy! If you think you are going to be more "successfful" at meeting women at bars, at church, etc. Then, why in the hell are you here?
I don't think that there's a lot of bitter men on this site. If they are, then they're nice guys who's got it together who are being rejected left and right for jerks who treat them (the women) poorly, not to mention sending out personalized e-mails and having them read/deleted without the woman even looking at the guy's profile. If anything, I think a lot of women on this site are bitter. If they'd give good guys a shot (and sometimes that means making the first move and accept a guy even if he's not at least 6'0" tall) and stop falling for jerks, then maybe they wouldn't be so bitter. As for me, I was moderately successful in college and when I dated foreign women. One college girlfriend was Japanese. Another was Russian. After college I dated some Latin women here and went to Latin American countries and visited some.
I do not think majority of women think that having over a hundred emails boosts their egos? Give me a break! You, men, sound jealous; and also, for women being, shallow..HA HA HA. Can you say, hypercritical . I knew that you could..
Hypercritical? I think you mean "hypocritical". On dating sites the ratio of men to women must be at least 5:1, so women can be more picky. And they usually are.
It is a part of life. Women are the ones that are approached, not the other way around. Yes, there are some assertive women at there. But, most of us, wait until a man, makes the first contact.
That's years of societal programming/brainwashing at work. Still, that is the reality we deal with. Men usually have to make the first move, the second move, the third move, ad infinitum/nauseum.
My advice, is not to give up. Keep on trying. Rejection, sucks; but, keep the faith. And, maybe someday, you will meet that someone, special. But, having a bitter and negative attitude and allowing your ego to get in the way, is NOT going to take you very far in the dating world!!!!!!
What would take us guys far in the dating world???? From seeing the kinds of guys women go for, either we'd have to have lots of money and buy time with these women (come to think of it, that's not much different from prostitution, but at least prostitution is guaranteed intimacy whereas that's not guaranteed for the guy who's blowing his money on a date) or be a jobless loser with a substance addiction. And you really have to question why women keep falling for those losers. And then they come on sites like this one and wonder why they can't find decent guys.
As for the other gentlemen on this site, take a look at nomarriage.com and see how foreign women are so much better than their North American counterparts. I've had experience with foreign women and the quality of those ladies is so much better. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/8/2008 2:27:39 PM | Hmmm, I am not sure what dating site you are using but I have recieved many first contacts and responses from some really nice (and attractive) women...I haven't read what you wrote about yourself but do know that women are very intelligent and quite perceptive so maybe they are reading something in your profile just doesn't appeal to
them...instead of writing something to impress them, let your words simply be honest!
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| Iwomen just shallow
Posted: 9/8/2008 2:37:42 PM | Here's some stats from the nomarriage site.
http://www.nomarriage.com/fd.html
99.9% of the single women in this country are not even marriageable.
Take away the women beyond the marriageable age (over 30).
Take away the fat women.
Take away the ugly women.
Take away the psycho Zoloft / Prozac women.
Take away the raped women.
Take away the women with STDs / HIV.
Take away the women who can't cook.
Take away the women who already have kids.
And you've eliminated 99.9% of the single women in this country. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/8/2008 2:40:11 PM | I certainly share in your opinion, that most women like losers, and living in a community that is solely supported by people on vacation, and surrounded with alcoholics, and drug addiction, I can tell you that I don't know an alcoholic with a drug problem, that doesn't have a woman by his side. And probably a few STDs thrown in just for the hell of it...
I would have to agree with you keyzguy,every functioning drug addict and alcoholic I've known always had an enabling woman by his side.I have a neighbor who is a total loser and his wife works and pays for everything.
I guess love is blind and stupid. | |
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| Iwomen just shallow
Posted: 9/8/2008 3:03:04 PM | Oh, EXCUSE ME.."hypocritical" it is called, a typing error.
As for the other gentlemen on this site, take a look at nomarriage.com and see how foreign women are so much better than their North American counterparts. I've had experience with foreign women and the quality of those ladies is so much better.
Then, due us North American women a favor and leave, please..thanks!!! | |
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| Iwomen just shallow
Posted: 9/8/2008 3:19:08 PM |
Rock and Roll Princess!!! wrote: Oh, EXCUSE ME.."hypocritical" it is called, a typing error. tkdblake93 wrote: As for the other gentlemen on this site, take a look at nomarriage.com and see how foreign women are so much better than their North American counterparts. I've had experience with foreign women and the quality of those ladies is so much better. Then, due us North American women a favor and leave, please..thanks!!!
See? This is exactly why North American women are becoming less and less desireable. Dropping the attitude would be a good start. Why leave when the forums are so entertaining?  Plus I can show other gentlemen on this site that there's a better way than to bang one's head against a wall trying to get a date with a North American "princess" like yourself. Usually when a girl puts "princess" or "queen" in her screen name, she's usually too high maintenance to be worth the bother.
"Due" us a favor? How about due'ing us a favor and lern 2 spel.  | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/8/2008 3:23:46 PM | I agree with this statement. I would also add that with this particular website and because it is free -a number of the profiles are fraudulent and not from honest people -this I believes applies to the women more than anything else than the guys these days with changing times.
Too many women are there to flirt behind hubby's back or more and feel wanted when hubby does not give them enough attention.
Too many women on this website are so rude, dishonest and disreputable and to quote the line from the Pygmalion 'Principles Gov - I cannot afford them'
Perhaps it would be in order to compile a black list nad name and shame the guilty. It would soon fill this website.
This may sound hard but it is true. | |
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| Iwomen just shallow
Posted: 9/8/2008 3:24:50 PM | See? This is exactly why North American women are becoming less and less desireable. Dropping the attitude would be a good start.
Spelling errors aside, I don't think that's attitude at all...if you live in the US and you are going on about how foreign women are better, then it would stand to reason that you'd be asked why you still live here, or be given a blessing to ship off. It's just a logical response to your statement.
Unless you're trying to scare us all into changing (good luck with that, BTW), why discuss it? Why not just already be in a foreign country living it? Heck, I am all for it if you honestly feel that it's what you want...but either back it up with some action, or don't bother declaring it. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/8/2008 4:51:04 PM | I looked at that site. Man' Wanna talk about bashing the female gender. I have to admit "some" of what the guy is saying is true. American women are not like they use to be. That's true. A lot of American women are "self" motivated now. Not to many years ago American women put home and family ahead of everything. Now, For the most part it falls very, very close to the bottom of the list.  | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/8/2008 5:22:10 PM | Well.....(and going back to the original post) from what I have heard, yes women get loads of mails from guys if they have a great picture up but a lot of them tend to be unsuitable, i.e. one liners or a bit pervy so I wouldn't feel too jealous of that! A lot of women go off the site because they can't or don't want to keep up with it.
Secondly it's natural that men put themselves up for selection and then women do the choosing so you kind of have to accept that unless you are on a personal crusade to alter biology! (only 26% of women make first contact so men are still the chasers)
And there are a few more issues:
Relationships between men and women have changed beyond recognition in the last 50 years so no-one really knows where they are which makes it difficult;
We are the generation that all got divorced so we have sometimes quite contradictory feelings about the opposite sex;
Attention span is short these days so there is always someone on the site that looks just that bit more attractive. Too much choice sounds great but is not always a good thing.
In the end it all comes down to attitude. If you have a good attitude and are prepared to be friendly you will do ok. If you are feeling angry it will not really work in your favour. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/8/2008 5:26:07 PM | I was reading a post by MunnyPenny and i just had to speak on it.
I have been around this site around two years all together. I have messaged many women here only to be turned down. Most of the ones i have contacted were what most would call "average" All in all they were what i call OK but not Barbie. One comes to mind, She was kinda fat. Didn't bother me though. I liked her profile. After reading her profile completely through i decided to message her. So i did. I wrote her a nice message. She never even offered to respond. Do get me wrong, That's OK, That's Her prerogative. Most all the women i message are "average" So, What i am saying is, The average women turn down men down the most on here. There are some very pretty women here. But most of what i have seen is average. I have come across women on here that come off like they think there all that and a bag chips. When there really just average. Me personally, I am a "average" guy looking for a "average" girl. But most of the ones i have come across here seem like they want to date "up" above what they really are. In other words a "Beer" girl looking for a "wine" man. That is why i say on a lot of my post that people need to come down off of there high horse and get real. Whatever class you are date within it and you will be better for it. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/8/2008 6:10:41 PM | Keyzguy?
You are right you are not the one I am talking about. I had one guy here in pof e-mailed me and after reading his profile I tend to think " hey this must be the guy I am looking for" So we communicated and plan a weekend to meet, to see a concert, I even willing to drive 4 hours to meet him in person since I have a cousin who lives close to where he is. Then he said he will call me and talk about it. Then he never call, I gave him my number but he didnt give his number, so I waited. I e-mailed him and asking him whats going on and hate to wait for his call. Then come to the truth , he said he might not be the right man for me, I told him why in the world did he e-mail me in the first place? Is it that he met a local person ? that he didnt want to meet me? All I ask is honesty, I even gave him a chance even he has a mustache, I accept I got upset for failing to communicate with me, I am not so desperate in finding the right guy, I like it slow and sure. So guys??? ladies also get sucks on this internet . dating.  | |
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