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Posted: 9/8/2008 6:56:57 PM | Dont be so sure about Women getting more action then Men. Im not ugly and my profile isnt bad. I e mail way more guys initially then e mail me. I also notice that some of them delete my mail without even bothering to read what i said. I see alot of men klooking for "please be athletic, petite, work out regularly.... yea trophyys are not going to be on the personals!! I even read one that said please be a 5,6, or 7 in dress size???!!!! WTF is that? And he a big fat red neck looking guy. The last thing im looking for is Don Juan who spends more time in the mirror than I do or on the stock market. I'd rather have average Joe with a job that pays his bills(cuz i can pay my own) . Just be patient. maybe you are looking at the girls that the guys Im looking at are looking for????? Did that make sence? | |
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Posted: 9/8/2008 6:58:22 PM | Wow...I have to disagree on so many levels...Internet dating is NOT easier for women and who says the ratio is more in favour for women - where did you get this stat? (I would certainly like to know) If anything, it's equivalent for both sexes...everything you just described, women experience too. I myself am I prime example! I find my biggest problem is when I do reach out to contact a guy, I'm brutally rejected because of how I look or sorry (how I don't look)...I guess there's a lot shallow and vain people out there. I think guys (and girls) need to be direct in their ad, they shouldn't say "open-minded, interested in all body types" if they really mean a plastic, fake, barbie doll wannabe. I mean in reality we only end up wasting everyone's time - is it worth it? I don't think so..
And what r u complaining about anyway??? You said in real life you get lots of looks and attention which would indicate you are attractive, hence, why don't you pursue that instead of online dating? Chances are you'll find someone who's actually real and genuine that way. Some of us aren't even fortunate to get that. At least you have options. In summation I can only say, you are so wrong in your opinions about the simplicity of online dating for women, as I said it's equally challenging for both sexes. And I don't even wanna hear about how hot, good looking women reject you, because chances are, you did the same thing to some other woman who tried to reach out to you - judged her and ruled her out because she wasn't pretty enough or her personality 'wasn't there' - Please, don't be a hypocrite! What you are accusing women of doing to you, you are probably guilty of doing the same thing to someone else...Think about it and get real! | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/8/2008 6:59:22 PM | | Dont be so sure about Women getting more action then Men. Im not ugly and my profile isnt bad. I e mail way more guys initially then e mail me. I also notice that some of them delete my mail without even bothering to read what i said. I see alot of men looking for "please be athletic, petite, work out regularly.... yea trophyys are not going to be on the personals!! I even read one that said please be a 5,6, or 7 in dress size???!!!! WTF is that? And he's a big fat red neck looking guy. The last thing im looking for is Don Juan who spends more time in the mirror than I do or on the stock market. I'd rather have average Joe with a job that pays his bills (cuz i can pay my own) . Just be patient. maybe you are looking at the girls, that the guys Im looking at, are looking for????? Did that make sence? | |
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Posted: 9/8/2008 9:02:07 PM | Keyzguy,
I didnt drive there to meet him, I was willing to drive 4-5 hours to meet him and go to a concert, but it didnt happen at all. Thank you for letting me feel better, though it didnt bother me that much, it was his lost not mine. I have been lucky to say , I have met some from pof though no chemistry to some I could be the best friend there is. About aging it the asian thing, we dont age early, somewhere later in life. I do exercize and eat healthy and medically healthy. Have a good day. lucilou  | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/8/2008 11:30:44 PM | Lily 232
I just wanted to say that i wish all women would write there profiles like you have done. You stated the kind of guy you are attracted to. Which is cool. You like men with meat on them, Husky guys. Nothing wrong with that. The biggest majority of womens profiles on here are either vague or down right to picky. It's alright to like what you like. Heck, I like women with a little meat on there bones. But, at the same time, I am not picky either. That is why i speak to all that speaks to me. Picture or no picture. Big, little,short or tall. It's like i have said many times on these forums. What a person "wants" may be a Barbie or a "Ken" But what you "need" may not be in a Barbie or Ken package. In other words lots of guys in vision there perfect mate is 36D-24-36 Blond, Blue eyes, Tall with legs that go on for ever, you know the drill. When all the time the "Right" one for them is every thing but that. Same thing goes for women when there idea of a perfect mate is 6'ft-2, Muscular build, Dark hair and eyes. Perfect teeth and a nice butt. When all the time the "perfect" one for her is everything but that.  | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 12:56:39 AM | Sounds to me like you should give up.
Or if you don't let me buy you a clue... read your message again as if you didn't write it then let me know if you sound LIKE A WHINER!
Note to you women like a man with self confidence this message is not helping you. So why don't you get real and take your outrageous expectations and standards like "She must be large breasted, beautiful, intelligent, witty, low maintenance, ambitious etc etc and all the usual bullsh it, and find a girl who is not so shallow as the ones you have been trying to hook up with. Trust me I have had enough experience with the knock outs... they wear out quickly if you are as " good (of a) looking, educated white guy like" you say you are.
And yea your right, sort of but the biggest trick women have is when men think that women have the power because women don't. Women need men far more than we meed them. Truth be known I laugh when women try to sell sex for money because it's women who should be paying men. In fact if you study your history closely you'll find this to be true. A little advice for you, women want what they can't have. I am sure you can work this basic truth out. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 4:35:45 AM | thegoodman: I guess that I look like Mr.Studmuffin then. I've gotten contacted on here by a few women.
I must admit, it certainly feels empowering!
Almost makes me feel like going and getting some more "Read Deleted" rejections in order to balance things out! | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 1:31:12 PM | | I agree with you 100%! there is far too many men on this site as to women. I have wrote at least over a 150 emails to different women on here. I get maybe 5 reply back...? why, I dont know why. I am not gonna write a long lenghy email to get no replys. There is nothing wrong with me! The damn women, not all, are too damn picky on this site.. It's not what the guy writes in their description that matters to them, it's their picture....how attractive or goodlooking they are as to wheteher they will write back.. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 1:56:35 PM |
I have wrote at least over a 150 emails to different women on here. I get maybe 5 reply back...?
Some men get none at all...or that's what they're saying anyway. You're only looking for one person...we ALL have to go thru numbers to get to that one (if we're actively looking, anyway)
why, I dont know why. I am not gonna write a long lenghy email to get no replys.
That's too bad, because women who find you attractive might stop and consider you based on what you actually say...and two or three personalized sentences aren't long e-mails, but are sufficient to get attention. However, no substance in a message is a surefire way to lose everyone's interest. Fair? No, but it is what it is.
There is nothing wrong with me!
You may think that, and it may be true, but strangers don't know this - they only have your presentation to go by...if your presentation sucks, it doesn't matter what's not wrong with you.
The damn women, not all, are too damn picky on this site.. It's not what the guy writes in their description that matters to them, it's their picture....how attractive or goodlooking they are as to wheteher they will write back..
You have no idea what determines whether they will write back. You cannot possibly have factual information on what it is...but I can give you a few guesses.
P.S. OF COURSE the pic matters, women need attraction in order to be interested...so they have to be curious about it. The pic is the beginning of that process. However, if they like your picture and you either have nothing in your profile or send awful messages (or both) then you will likely still get no response.
The picture + the substance (profile, message sent) + your overall attitude and how you come across are ALL needed to score points around here. One out of three ain't gonna cut it. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 2:04:43 PM | | Like i said, writing a bunch of stuff in a profile isnt gonna make a difference as to how many responses a person gets..It's the picture! I have more stuff in my profile than lots of women do..I dont have that much. iTS NOT THAT BAD! It's funny cause i see women that pass me over on here that are not all that attractive. Not saying i'm a ken either, but you know what i'm mean. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 2:09:32 PM | | A woman doesnt have to fill out anything in here profile but post a picture and how many kids they might have. They get tons of email pouring in over a couple weeks time. Y...men to women ratio on here sucks. If shes hot, then she will get lots of attention..To me an an average goodlooking guy like me on here is equal to an ugly woman. you get no responses. A extremely goodlooking guy on here is equal to average women on here . They will get the most responses. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 3:06:27 PM | | I read these forums. I pay attention to the things that people say. There is one thing that i have seen written all across these forums mostly by women. They need a picture to be attracted to a man. I know, It's lame and shallow. That is how important a picture is to them. I have seen some men say the same thing. But, In what i read on these forums a picture is the do all say all to more women than men. They look at a inanimate picture, Something that really tells the viewer nothing, And decide right there if there going to answer or not. It kinda makes me wonder about men being more visual than women. At least on here it's different. Women seem to need more visual stimulation than men do. A least here. I have seen this in more womens profiles than i have of anything else. They do seem to want to see a picture way more than men do. ...................................................................................................................................... One of the other things i see a lot of is "two faced" women here. I have seen profiles saying things like, "I am not shallow. I answer all messages." It doesn't matter to me about what size a man is. I have been very attracted to larger men before. I give every one who messages me a chance because i am not shallow" Message them and they don't answer. Which just shows me that there full of shyt. The one that really got me was the one who said, " If i message you please return the message even if your not interested. It is just plain rude and uncalled for not to answer someones messages" So i thought, "Hey, A lady that gets it" She was fairly local to me so i messaged her. You know what i got, Read/Delete. Never answered back. That's OK, Just another two faced person that doesn't want the same as she dishes out. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 3:10:51 PM |
ladyncuffs,,, if in fact you are commenting on my post, you are certainly making a mistake as to your assumption
Self-centered much, Keysguy? As near as I could tell she could have been responding to any of a number of posts, including the original post by the OP. But, I do have to say that even if I were anywhere close to you, after reading several of your posts, I would never date ANYONE that has that much of an overinflated view of themselves. Self-confidence is one thing. Trying to make yourself feel more important by putting down every female of the species is just.......pathetic. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 3:44:49 PM |
keyzguy369DUDE,,, you have just created about 75 more pages of postings that will certainly stir up the pot! You are the man!!
Glad to be of assistance. Of course, I knew I was going to get flamed by some of the ladies (and I use that term very loosely). The truth is, I've been to other countries and while I'll always consider myself an American, there are things in their respective cultures that I like much better. People are more relationships-oriented. Sure, some foreign women are looking for a green card (in order to have a "better" life), but most would be quite happy to stay in their home countries if only they could find a decent guy who's not going to cheat on them or waste money on an alcohol addiction. There are a lot of American men who retire in Latin America and marry women half their age. These same guys may not be able to attract North American women, but then again why would you want to settle for someone who doesn't like you for who you are anyways??? | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 3:50:42 PM | Like i said, writing a bunch of stuff in a profile isnt gonna make a difference as to how many responses a person gets..It's the picture! I have more stuff in my profile than lots of women do..I dont have that much. iTS NOT THAT BAD! It's funny cause i see women that pass me over on here that are not all that attractive. Not saying i'm a ken either, but you know what i'm mean.
No, you don't have much in your profile. Is that because you did a profile review, followed advice and STILL had no luck, or is it because you're guessing it doesn't matter anyway? And you sound pretty sure of yourself about what you think women look for. What if someone likes your pic but decides not to bother with you because you have nothing in your profile OR e-mail? Hate to break it to you, but it's likely that's happening. You seem like you've done your home work on all the women here, what they all want and their history, so can you please post where you get your stats from so I can see them first hand? I'd rather not argue based on assumption. Thanks.
A woman doesnt have to fill out anything in here profile but post a picture and how many kids they might have. They get tons of email pouring in over a couple weeks time.
Can you post the results of that study too? Thanks much,
Y...men to women ratio on here sucks. If shes hot, then she will get lots of attention..To me an an average goodlooking guy like me on here is equal to an ugly woman. you get no responses. A extremely goodlooking guy on here is equal to average women on here . They will get the most responses.
Wow, you know your stuff....I need you to give me solid results tho so I can see what you're talking about. Again, thanks.
P.S. Keysguy, I scanned your wall of post, because I can't as a human follow it for long by actually reading it (cliff notes anyone?) but I see you posted about me - let me address that for you.
You don't know me, nor do you know why I come here, why I post or anything related to me...you know what I want you to know (as do most posters here). I have no gimmick; I do however have little patience to continue to argue with people who don't really want to do more than complain which is why I stop posting at times in certain threads. In your case, I just get bored reading your 56 line posts which generally are redundant and long winded...so I give up bothering. As for my personal life, which isn't relevant to you or to most people here - leave me out of your rant, thanks. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 5:26:40 PM | I'm sorry....did I give you the mistaken impression that I was interested in someone that has such a low opinion of females in general? If so, I guess I'll have to make myself a little more clear. NOTHING about someone with your self-righteous, "master of the universe" attitude interests me. I am, however, glad to know that I won't be running into you in Michigan anytime soon.
And.....I'm 43, but you didn't bother to check that. If you're going to attempt to insult me, which I assume your poke at my age was....at least get your facts straight. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 6:27:38 PM | | heavyiron here again; I would like to mention that I was watching a documentary on discovery channel about human sexual attraction some time back and the science says that when a woman gets a visual on a man she encounters on the street in a bar or wherever ,It takes 7 seconds to sexually accept or reject the male, apparently she makes a visual assessment and decides within 7 seconds if there would ever be a chance that she would engage sexually with the male at any point during a possible future relationship. has anyone heard this before? they also said that the males height was the 1 criteria in making the decision. apparently less attractive taller men are considered more desirable than better built more attractive and more financially secure shorter men. this is what the university studies have concluded. I dont know about this because I have seen many tiny little guys with some very attractive women? I would almost like to experiment and change my profile height to 6ft2 and see what happens. I am a male of slightly shorter than average height at 5ft9 | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 7:18:05 PM | OK Heavyiron - I am tired of the bickering and pettiness in most of the threads and especially a few recent ones on here, I actually find your post interesting.
I don't know about the facts behind it but it's interesting nonetheless. And none of the whining and complaining either!! Thanks.
I disagree with the height thing, I have found that there are some extremely sexy men that are my height. There are very tall guys that are just blah. The difference? The attitude and humour and charm! Ok there's a few more but I think I'll keep that to myself!!
I am surprised that there seems such a disbelief that women can look at a man and past all the superficial stuff, to judge them on much more substantial things such as character.
Of course the nice pair of levi's always helps too!! | |
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Posted: 9/9/2008 7:31:37 PM | | Well, There is something i have noticed about people. OK, let me explain it this way, I am 5ft/10, 235 lbs. Blue eyes and wavy dark brown hair. Out here in the real world i do meet women. Just most of what i meet i am not interested in. Not my type i guess you could say. Here on POF or any other dating site for that matter it's actually harder to meet women. The women seem like there not willing to give a man a chance here. The only reasons i can come up with is a lot of the women that come to these dating sites must be damaged goods some kind of way. They want attention but they want it a arms length if you understand what i am getting at. Sure, Theres some on here that really want to meet someone. Maybe something in there lives keeps them from being as social as they want to be. So they turn to places like this to try to be social. But the ones who really want to be social get lost over in the middle of all the others. The quirky,the weird, the attention hogs,the man haters,etc, etc. Men allow themselves to get on these sites and when they start running into all of this they don't stop to think that there is more of the quirky, weird, etc, etc than they are of the ones that really want to meet someone special. What i am trying to say folks is as for me i am not going to let the over abundance of quirky, weird and the like bruise my ego to the point that i start getting bitter. Yes, There is some bitter men here. I know what i am capable of out here in the real world. So i will hold on to that. I understand now. There is to many men that let rejection bruise there ego. They have allowed themselves to feel like there less of a man because of rejection. That's why there are men on here who send penis pictures and say nasty things to some of the women on here. They let it bother them. Not me. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 7:39:03 PM | | I don't know about the 7 second thing. I do know for sure that most women turn a man down before they know enough about him. I do know from experience that women sometimes jump to fast when sizing up a man. I have personally had women friends of mine say they think there never going to meet a man they click with. I've told them if they would get past the idea that they know all they need to know in 5 min after meeting a guy they might meet one they click with. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 7:43:54 PM | | thanks sweetgemgirl! and what happened to our good vs bad forum? I cant find it! I have mentioned this on another post but studies have concluded that the body build most prefered by women is 5ft11-6ft2 155-160lbs but I suspect this mainly applies to the early 20s females as the study is from a university. the older gals 35-45 seem to not mind the muscles? | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 7:48:09 PM |
You want to get a rise? Show up in Levi's!
Not to knock levi's because they.. of course.. RULE, but sub. chaps for levi's and yeah... nice.
apparently she makes a visual assessment and decides within 7 seconds if there would ever be a chance that she would engage sexually with the male at any point during a possible future relationship.
There's a VERY important word in there that makes it true enough AND makes a very important distinction...
visual...
That's just the whole "Oh hey wow.. I'm attracted to you" thing. That probably happens to me about 3 or 4 times a day.
She can't possibly make any other kind of assessment about say.. his personality in 7 seconds, obviously.
As for height.. not so much for me. I am only 5 foot 4.. so it's not hard to be taller than me if you've got a dangler. While I do prefer someone taller than me... if I'm that attracted.. and still attracted once I get to know a guy, I'm not hung up on his height.
That thing about "the insides are what counts".. well ok.. the insides do totally count, no doubt, but for me.. the insides gotta match the outsides. It's all well and great for you to be a first class hot guy, but if you're a tool... the thrall of your hotness will break and I will sprint away at top speed.
They have allowed themselves to feel like there less of a man because of rejection.
Yeah, I don't get that at all. Rejection is part of all our lives. And it will happen more than it won't happen. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 7:52:26 PM | | In a way internet dating has expanded my horizons. Used to be only women from parts of 3 counties had the chance to give me the cold shoulder, since I've started getting on some dating sites I have gone global. | |
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| Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women.
Posted: 9/9/2008 8:08:31 PM | | I agree! some of these women on here think they are made of GOLD!!! their ego is completely out of there range! I'm no "so called STUD looking guy" but some of these women are FAT and as out of shape as any of us guys will ever be!!!!!! I say lets all go to Russia for some good looking women--- they take care of themselves and are very dedicated to a man who appreciates a good woman for who they are!!!!! PISS ON THESE EGO AMERICAN WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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