| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 9/4/2006 10:07:37 AM | ^^^I learned far more from the school of hard knocks than I ever did from one of the "finest" institutions of higher learning. Many brilliant and successful people don't have the parchment.
OT: The younger we are, on both sides of the gender aisle, the more indulged we are. With indulgence comes warped expectation IMHO. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 9/4/2006 11:23:59 AM | In my experience I've found far more men to be materialistic than women.
Education is what we make of it. I know morons with Doctorates and mensa folks that never went to college. You can also get a good education ANYWHERE. How hard you study and what you learn is up to you in the end. I'm not suggesting you look for dropouts, I am however suggesting we consider the substance of character before that of "pedigree." I don't think you suggested a negative, I simply hope you don't subscribe to educational stereotypes for I did at your age and know how unproductive it was for me.
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 9/4/2006 1:05:29 PM | I have generally found women to be far more altruistic than men. We are all products of our experiences. Materialism comes to everyone at different times in our lives and in different forms/perceptions. Is not a man's criteria of a woman's physical appearance a material concern? Is not his quest for the best "toys" materialistic? We may not look at women as much of a material resource as women look at us, but in the greater scheme of life it is men that have driven our materialistic economy extent.
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/17/2006 3:41:43 AM | "but in the greater scheme of life it is men that have driven our materialistic economy extent."
yup, I agree.
Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
probably because they are raised with parents shoving materialistic gifts at them for every birthday and holiday, and raised with commercials trying to trick them into buying stuff constantly so it takes them about 30 years to figure out that consumersism and materialism isn't going to buy them happiness.
love for all,
onyx blue
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/19/2006 5:33:57 PM | Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Because guys try to buy women under 30 by impressing them with material things.
I think it is the firm boobs. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/19/2006 7:43:33 PM | there are a million and one different theories - here are a couple,
1. at that age you are still trying to hang on to the freedom of youth and trying to hide your head and not get into anything too serious (like examining yourself, ambitions, etc.)
2. in conversations with older adults you constantly hear how there will be nothing left for you when you get older - adding to eh "enjoy now, worry about it later attitude"
3. no understanding of delayed gratification......
4. the Jones' white fence got a whole lot bigger then when I was young
5. other ppl said it - trying to impress everyone else but if your lucky one day you wake up and realize that the only one you need to impress is yourself! | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/20/2006 2:05:19 AM | Our society has become all about "instant gratification." It really isn't just women who are materialistic, it's entire generations. This hasn't always been the case, and some of us were raised by people growing up in the shadow of WWII......it was instilled in us to love everything our parents gave us that they themselves never had because of the world they grew up in. My parents really were of the "I had a stick and a rag to play with and I was grateful to have those" generation, having been born in the middle of WWII in Germany! I grew up privileged, but also fully aware of how privileged I was. My kids now have a lot more material possessions than I ever had growing up......BUT being a child of post-war Germany immigrants, I made sure my kids were aware of how lucky they were!
If I look at my collegues who are a generation younger than I am, many of them are in their 20's, living at home (for free) but working full-time...able to buy whatever they want whenever they want. Anyone wanting to impress them would be hard-pressed to do so I'd say! Affection almost HAS to be bought with them, to make a good impression! Why do they need a partner when they can afford whatever they want, themselves and their parents give them everything they can't afford!? I'm DEFINITELY not saying it's right.....but I'm saying that's what it's become.
Example...I work with a 23-yr-old and a 24-yr old..both are purchasing their homes (with a lot of help from parents) and among the first things they bought upon leaving home.....? Huge tv's...we're talking a 55 inch and a 52 inch flat screen HDTV. When I left home it took me 3 months to save up for a coffee table. As a single parent, I'm now 38, renting (and that's just how it will be for any foreseeable future), and proud of what I've accomplished.
It's actually sad to me that priorities are so askew. That's the way the world is now. At least, the world of North America.....IF you were lucky enough to be born here.
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/20/2006 2:36:50 AM | | OP- define "materialistic" - are you talking about a woman who would expect her man to have a job and to provide the necessities of life - ie: mortgage, food, clothing, vehicle, etc..for their family - which is NOT materialistic, it is realistic - or are you talking about golddiggers...there is a HUGE difference. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/20/2006 2:54:02 AM | | OK Sweet I have to ask...you have a decent job...if your SO is expected to provide the "necessities of life" such as mortgage, food clothing, vehicle.......what do you provide financially to the relationship? Just curious. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/20/2006 3:19:08 AM | OK i have to agree with those who say it isn't just women....some mena re the same way. for instance when i go out...i may go ina jeans and t shirt...i may even drive the pickup I use to go hunting with...beat up doors..bad paint..you get the picture...but as i get to where im going I notice the closer i get to the abar...or wherever..the cars get nicer I.E. the brand new f350 and the BMW are right next to the front door, just so they can be seen getting in and out of the car, by as many people as possible, and this is more often MEn than women. is it pathetic?yes | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/20/2006 3:21:07 AM | | sweetandreal, you have a very good point there and im sure the OP was talking about gold diggers, but let me ask you this...if your "significant other" were physically unable to work tomorrow"god forbid", and the entire monetary responsibilities were thrust upon your shoulders, would you stick by his side?not attacking you at all, just asking | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/20/2006 3:33:52 AM | armyguy - of course! That is a whole different scenario, it part of a committed relationship. And of course a woman is expected to pull her weight and both partners should be there to help each other out - I believe in that 100%...in fact, my ex was off work for a year, due to a company strike - and his subsequent illness, and I did handle all the bills, putting in 16 hour days at the office to make sure we could pay everything - and more than willingly, becuase I knew he was a hardworker, and this was something out of his control. That is what relationships are about.
what I was getting at, is the point - is this guy yelling "materialistic" becuase his g/f or wife wants him to get a JOB?. or help with bills? or feed his kids...you see what I mean? There is a whole realm of "materialistic", which is why I asked him to clarify what he meant. I'm pretty sure he meant the golddigger type as well, but figured I would ask first.
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/20/2006 3:38:47 AM | tmofedm1 - I pay my bills ON MY OWN. I have never asked ANYONE to pay a damn cent towards my lifestyle...so if you are insinuating I am a golddigger by asking what I 'give', you couldn't be more wrong! I was brought up to understand that a person needs to "earn" their things, and work hard. That said, I fully expect that ANY man I am with will have a JOB and be paying his share of the necessities of life - unless he is unable to work for legitimate reasons such as injury, illness, etc..that is a different thing all together! I find that a lot of men these days who scream "materialistic" are the ones who don't like to work for a living!
I agree with you on the endulging thing though - it is crazy these days - kids don't have to work for anything, or earn anything anymore! I just don't understand it at all. I can't imagine "paying" my daughter to clean her room, or help around the house!!!! | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/20/2006 5:16:43 AM | | this is interesting cause i know a guy who my nephew works with...treated his wife and kids like gold...total family man..they were his life...now hes lost 80 lbs because of depression..his wife took EVErythign one day while he was at work...stole all the money(YES STOLE) paid no bills...she didnt work..he did side jobs to afford to take them places like disneyland, san francisco ETC., one day she emptied the house and the bank account...flew toTX and didnt know where she was for a month..and now she only calls hi mwhen she wants 200 dollars to take the kids for pizza....and demands he do it or else shell take them from him for good.hes heartbroken over this dirtbag and its getting ready to kill him. THATS what you call a gold digger.and im sure some of these "if your not confident your not attractive"idiots...wuold tell him hes a whiner and to just suck it up sorry but this gets my blood goin | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/21/2006 8:21:49 PM | some ppl want money, some ppl want the things that money can buy. Under 30, ppl are trying to establish themselves, and for many, this is represented in material things | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/21/2006 10:12:36 PM | | A popular talk radio show host said this: "Women get as rich of a guy as they can get with their looks, and a man gets as hot of a woman as he can buy with his money". If you don't believe this, then look around. How many real ugly women do you see with very successful men, and how many hot women do you see with a guy that barely lives paycheck to paycheck? Makes you think. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 10/22/2006 1:47:47 PM | | because like oh my god like they spend all this time like watching TV and like oh my god like TV tells them in order to like be likeable they need to like go out and shop for like the cool clothes and like... (ok, I'll stop here...) | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic? Posted: 3/9/2008 1:16:10 AM | | People of all ages can be materialistic....$$$ $$$ $$$ its all about the $$$! these days! just look around you! flick on the TV! quite sad! | |
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