DSW77
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/9/2008 1:24:33 AM | | My grandparents and mom came from post war Germany/Austria...so I kind of understand this... your hit the nail right on the head! Its North American way of life now...more more more $$$ $$$!!! to this day in parts of europe you will see familys living in small cozy apartments, happy! a small tv in the corner e.t.c.. nothing fancy! but they laugh, love and have fun, eat, drink and are content...if a young person from here walked in there apartment they would go....what the heck NO LCD TV! wheres the leather sofa or XBOX 360....its quite sad.. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/9/2008 6:06:20 PM | | I hate to say it, but what North America truely needs, from a human perspective, is another depression. People have had it so good for so long that they honestly cannot differentiate between need and want. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/9/2008 8:46:33 PM | | Because they aren't self-sufficient and secure with themselves enuf yet..most women over 30 are established and can buy their own things without looking for a rich guy to fulfill their wardrobes! | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/10/2008 12:56:24 PM | that's a pretty rash generalization... Not all woman are that way & there are certainly some men that are.... Did you ever think this is the type of people you're attracting yourself?
I'm under 30.. I make my own money. I cook & I buy a bottle of wine to go with dinner.. Maybe you just need to attract nicer woman. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/11/2008 10:34:05 PM | kindheart....
Amen. It seems that this is the way. I grew up in a home of great wealth. I actually eventually resented it. My parents are literally millionares, now living in FLorida.
We were taught that if you didn't drive a certain car, live in a certain house,,,,you get my drift. I always thought they were the most shallow people I knew.
Unfortunately that attitude prevails and it is sad. I do alot of volunteer work when I can and right under our noses live alot of decent people who for many reasons can't even put food in their fridge every week. We're talking about hard working factory people, students, on and on, who just had a bad day. So do they deserve less of a chance at a relationship than the rest of us? Why do we as North Americans obsess over "what's in it for me" Now I am rambling, but I am passionate about this issue.
I almost married a girl awhile back. I ran a restaurant, she was a server there. It was magic. She was beautiful beyond measure. But she was used to getting attention from co workers and customers. She had very wealthy customers who would offer her the sun and moon, literally. I made good money, but the business bankrupted. I lived with her. She went to the next restaurant and continued to make money. I on the other hand struggled to find a paycheque that equalled what I had been earning. Soon she grew weary, began complaining. Finally she came out and said it..."Ideserve better than this...what can you offer me now?" I was blown away. I moved out and told her to go find her Ken Doll, and it hurt badly to let go in spite of it all.
I work in the business. I hear so many 20 something girls, and what they expect from a guy....where did this attitude come from? I suppose from people like my parents, who divided society into classes in their own way, and segregated themselves among the well to do...perhaps I'm off in my opinions, but you see it every day. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/12/2008 11:28:15 AM | I don't think being materialistic is up to age. I think it's cultural.
I'm brazilian but I'm living in UK. I found most women here extremamly materialistic, they get to the point on giving up family, with small children, to dedicate themselves to a career just to be able to afford luxuries they don't need, just for the sake to look like such and such celebrity. I've heard a lot of women in America is like that too. The young and single ones just go out with a guy if he has a car.
I believe women should valorize themselves, but when they put money as a priority to find a partner and career in front of her family she should reconsiderate her choices because she can end up hurting someone or being hurt.
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/12/2008 11:16:50 PM | I think we're all a bit insecure, and we as North Americans listen to a media that tells us who we should be. We all want to do the right thing I think. We feel that unless we've achieved some cultural status, we've failed. Go to Indonesia and ask them how happy they are...most of them are truly happy, because they have nothing except each other.
We have enough wealth in North America to stop povery ten times over, yet we fret over what kind of car we drive and the brand of clothes we wear. Sad. We're victims of mass (but clever) marketing I think. I was always one to take in the stranger , not judge people. My parents are filthy rich, and I'll never see a dime, and I don't care.
I don't want a woman who worries more about my finances than she worries about me.
That shows a level of selfishness and stunted growth, and I won't even give that the time of day. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/12/2008 11:19:52 PM | | And if I may add to that...most men with money want something in return...it's a fair barter system...I'll give you the Gold Card to go blow...but you better keep your looks up. When the looks are gone and age sets in, the truth comes out. I know, very cynical, but it happens every day. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/13/2008 10:58:26 AM |
I'm brazilian but I'm living in UK. I found most women here extremamly materialistic, they get to the point on giving up family, with small children, to dedicate themselves to a career just to be able to afford luxuries they don't need, just for the sake to look like such and such celebrity. I've heard a lot of women in America is like that too. The young and single ones just go out with a guy if he has a car. Women go for careers for far more reasons than money. I went into what I am now, because I need the mental challenge. I crave fixing things. I am very likely to be one of those people who will have to work until they die to keep my mind active. The money is nice, but that goes into retirement mostly, and I don't have kids or a family to worry about. I actually get tired of the push towards having kids and a family.
I'm a very practical woman. I try to keep my life as simple as possible. With more possessions comes more responsibility.
I'm not concerned with what a guy makes, but I am concerned about how he spends. Will it mean that I have to give up what I've already established for myself? If the guy makes little to no money, would he be the type that can be counted on to do things around the home, or would he just sit around? | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/13/2008 8:10:59 PM | You probably are chasing the wrong women. Wrong again! Not all women are after money you know some of us are very down-to-earth and earned a decent living for herself.
I'm 29 years old and yeah, I do make a decent living as a receptionist. I can't afford to buy all designer clothes or the lastest trends in fashion.
I'm much more happier following my own beat of drum. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/13/2008 10:48:23 PM | | Materialism is the new religion of our times. Like all religions, it promises a reason for living. I have met women of all ages over about age 20 who were materialistic and men too. It has nothing to do with age, and everything to do with the times. It's sad, really. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/14/2008 8:15:52 PM | | I really don't understand what age 30 has to do with it. Fertility level drops off rapidly at that point but I don't understand the relevance to the question. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 3/14/2008 10:40:53 PM | Its supply and demand. If you were a women under 30, why should you settle for less than what you can get? The laughable thing is when these women who enjoyed the game when it worked for them complain about it when reach a certain age.
Men and women have different dating strategies, so its not a case of them being materialistic or not - its just life. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 4/10/2008 12:52:38 AM | | Work in a restaurant. 99 percent of the servers are females with husbands who have real jobs and who pay the real bills. They're there to have a hobby and some spare change. Fine. Go for it. They like being the eye candy because it makes them feel special. Would all of them be able to fend for themselves without hubby's cash? A resounding no. I'm not bashing the whole thing by any means. But I have an ex wife who thinks like this. She had no problem telling me how much her BF's house was worth, and about the new pool and the trip to the falls, and even one day told my 7 yr old son to tell me how much money "Paul" made. So she basically slept with a credit card. Now I on the other hand work 7 days a week, pay her support and alamony, Pay my own apartment, insurance, all that. I manage a fricking restaurant for a very decent salary and if I am lucky, I may someday dig out of a financial hole. So perhaps I chose a shitty industry to work in, but I love the business. So I should feel like second fiddle because I can't compete with the new hubby's spending power? And what dignity does my ex wife really posess, outside of the fact that the hubby is willing to pay her way? What will she teach my sons? Life is a free ride? | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 4/11/2008 1:57:14 PM | Hmmm... in my experience it is the exact opposite. In my experience it seems that younger gals are more about who a guy is and less about what he has, whereas the old-er gals are more about what a guy has and less about who he is.
Go figure. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 4/13/2008 3:54:36 PM | I don't think all people women and men are materialistic, I myself don't love objects
why? cause materialism does not offer compassion, kindness, togetherness, I've learned to
enjoy what I have, and for most part ya don't need many of the things society tries
to shove down our throats , are 4500 SQ SUV of houses really necessary ? why can't they build nice cozy 900 SQ foot houses, etc. ( I know they don't make money probably )
I have a brother who's wife is constantly pushing him for more and more, bigger and
better, after 10 years of marriage, their 1800SQ house isn't good enough for her now,
( they went looking in the 3000 SQ range last week) also the 2001 Honda 4 door
embarasssed her now to the point she wont drive it, she just got a new 2008 , this all may
be fine, but the simple fact is they have way overspent beyond their means, and If
either looses a job, they are F---ked!!!!! so many like me can be happy with little and
still have a full-filling deep life , | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 4/13/2008 6:10:19 PM | op, it doesn't end at 30, the ticket items just get larger (granite counters, hardwood floors, furniture, swimming pools, etc)
70% of consumer purchases are made by women. They make some of us very rich. | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 4/13/2008 6:21:36 PM | | I do not find all women under 30 are materialistic, I really have changed my mind about women and people in general, one thing I have come to realize is that women/men sometimes never mature.... and i am also having trouble finding a woman my age that is not bitter and angry,I have never dated anyone outside my age range, but really everybody has baggage I will not let it control my future | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 4/14/2008 8:09:15 AM | | So what the guys here are saying is that women are just for pure enjoyment. And that ladies are saying that guys are here to support their life of luxury. No wonder you are all on dating sites, and not in a relationship. To say that a woman wants a man with money so that they don't have to worry about not having any, is just foolish. Get a job then, and help pay for more than that Lexus you pretend to look successful in life. Guess what successful doesn't mean only money. And if you think you will look like a barbie doll all your life, then think again. Age catches us all. To say that a woman is only here in this world for fun is also foolish. There are plenty of fish out there, but not "real fish". To both sexes, grow up, smell the roses, and when you realize that it is just as green on the other side it will probably be too late, and your gut will have blocked your view from your toes, or you boobs will be touching your toes. After all of the "players", and the "greedy" get done with the ones who are true, they will be bitter and spiteful, as you can already see this is the case with so many of the good people.:modhammer: | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 4/14/2008 10:07:50 AM | well, i am under 30 and this DOES NOT apply to me, but some of the reasons i think are because
they think they are "owed" it for some reason
the way they were brought up
if they think they are a "princess" LOL>.....
Women that act like this make the rest of us look bad......... yeah i like nice stuff, but i dont need a $200 coach purse.......
and money doesnt really play in the cards for me when im looking for a guy......as long as he has a job, becasue i dont want a deadbeat! | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 4/15/2008 7:12:48 AM |
Can't paint them all with the same brush, much comes from how they were raised, and the environment that they are in now
Very True....for the most part of women today 30 and under...with Stars to look at like..Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, Nicole Richie, ect. what can you expect?....Hell, in my day the girls were all oogling over Rick Springfield, on his soap opera...Who had the coolest metal lunchbox was the trend to beat..(I had a Partridge Family one btw)....Generation difference | |
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| Why are women under 30 so materialistic?
Posted: 4/15/2008 7:03:55 PM | countrytat - I actually have a female friend (kind person, beautiful heart, wishes the best for everyone, etc, etc), and she actually refers to herself as a "princess" and even wears Disney princess shirts.
I've had one debate with her -- she believes that when a man proposes to her, he must save at LEAST three months worth of his salary on a diamond ring. Anything less would mean he's not willing to work hard enough for her...
I disagreed with her (actually I called her crazy  ). I definitely wouldn't date someone like that. On the flip side, she wouldn't date someone like me because I'm not a prince. | |
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